well stated and reasoned. I share your road. Some days are better than others, but the road is always there.

Well said man. Screenshot taken of ur msg. ,👍

I can’t agree more!

I've always felt we really need to flesh out and incorporate a general philosophy as a society. We need to get our values settled, abandon consumerism and go after wisdom and Truth on scale. Then war will be completely unthinkable, people will really be at their best. And no, problems won't disappear. But why can't society at large be taught the value of Truth? Start teaching kids young, it'll transform the world almost instantly.

And the self is an illusion

The idea of self as an illusion is also a concept, which in itself is another illusion stacked on top of a very convincing illusion

@@33rdStreet yes so even the argument for it it’s like looking for your conscious in a 2 way mirror

@@33rdStreet however consciousness whatever it is if you are Normal or a schizophrenic whatever appears even if we are in a simulation consciousness can’t be an illusion

Same here ❤

Exactly! Please share if you come across any KZfaq video that does get into that.

I felt there was no chemistry between them and Blah interview….

Young man is distracted....looks like he's beginning the game

Yes but he lives them does he not?

​@@phiamanNot always. He slips, as do we all. About a year ago, someone came into his shop concerned about co. Vid and he called her well crafted, actually polite letter out on social media. In addition to this, Ryan himself titled it, "She didn't leave her name, but I'm betting it was Karen." He has since removed said post after a wave of backlashh.

Jordan,Peterson too.

Chris Williamson came to my mind

@@Amanita._.Verosa._. "We make mistakes. It happens. The idea that it shouldn’t affect a Stoic? Preposterous. No amount of training, Seneca writes, takes away natural feelings. So it’s OK that you don’t like what happened. What matters is what happens next." -- Ryan Holliday So, what happened next? We probably don't know, but perhaps he improved.

The perfect comment doesn't exi....

Bro 😂

Haha … that’s a pretty serious compliment … but of course, Sam is so thoughtful and could explain quantum physics to a mosquito. Can you imagine being married to him? 😂😂 “darling would you pass the salt without remembering your father’s excessive consumption of it?” Or to his dog, “I can’t take you outside now, it’s raining. Think about the door knob only …” I would love to live in his home for a month in one day … He is a treasure. After listening to him for several months, I now believe that mindfulness should replace religion and “Father Sam” should replace “Sam” 😂❤

​@@nicholaskostopulos8631your 20?

Same brother

There is no "you/your"

@@JD..........you’ve been confused by spiritual jargon. There definitely is a you, it’s just not the idea you have of yourself in your own head. It’s the presence and aliveness right now.

i think though they rarely cite it, I think they are clearly in the Charles Tart / George Gurdjieff vein of thought about the human experience to the world. I love it.

Yes, I had the exact same experience with crack.

True, I had the same experience with crystal meth.

Same. I don’t doubt meth and crack also have the ability to impact your life, but I’d like to believe psychedelics have the ability to transform your sense of self and perception of others in a non-harmful way when compared to the side effects that meth and crack may induce lol

​@@AmazingOwnage"chemicals are inherently bad and every one of them interfaces with the brain exactly the same." The clowns above you definitely drink every single night 😂

@@Mageblood their loss 🤷‍♂️

sam is def a giant of wisdom.. Ryan just repeats things that were written by others.

They both know "two ears, one mouth."

⁠Ryan Holiday is much more than that (repeating what others say)…he is very highly prepared and curious about how to get into the bones of what it takes to build an inner citadel that is required to function in the world…especially towards and about those of us who are just on the surface of our understanding.

Sam is a philosopher, Ryan is a chat bot.

Children in the basement

@@NousTrapperam is speaking slow for some people even on 1x. It would be a nightmare to put him on 0.25x. UPD. Just tried 0.25x - that’s hilarious

The Sam Harris effect

Wisdom and lessons from psychedelics is often left unintegrated as well.

Both are horse shit, come to Islam

The root of our suffering is our identification with our own thoughts.

1:02:10

This is a terrible combo, Harris just illustrated that stoicism has little to nothing to offer.

I listened . I would not characterize Harris's words that way 🤷‍♀️

I would recommend getting a real meditation teacher, there are deep insights to be had but they are not easily glimpsed without proper guidance

If meditation has not worked for you then what is your mindfulness practice if you do not include sitting? The waking and middle (meditation) state play off of one another. I suggest exploring different traditions - both spiritual and secular. Have fun!

A book that helped me was “The Meditative Mind: Varieties of Meditative Experience” by Daniel Goleman.

That is meditation

Mindfulness is a form of meditation. A lot of meditation is just mindfulness while sitting but there’s no rule that says you must sit while doing it, it’s just a tool

Exactly

Sure, but worry doesn’t help you figure out the solution. You can recognize that the worry alerted you to the problem, but after that it serves no function if you actually want a solution

How is it going on your journey ? Any amazing stoic books you picked up ? :)

@@noname3609 Epictetus

You are not alone, brother im on the same journey as you!

@@careforalla it's not easy bro but it does get better, I downloaded the dare app, along with incorporating stoic philosophy I'm making great progress, I've had anxiety and OCD my whole life but this hit me like a truck, Im very mindful that thoughts are not mine and I let them pass by without judgement, ruminating was my worst habit learning thinking is an active choice and my responsibility was very helpful I now no longer ruminate, acceptance is the key word in recovery accepting thoughts and feelings without judgement or attachment and continue living life, eventually all the symptoms will fade away. I really really wish you strength courage and confidence in your journey, honestly this will make us better people in the long run☘️

I read your comment before I'd reached the end so I made sure to finish... glad I did.

lol I see what you did there

Lolololol

May I know the timestamp for this?

Best wishes, life has so much to offer when we put effort on seeing and understanding what's in front of us and whats inside of us.

From the conversation it seems that Ryan either doesn't have yet a reference experience for mindful meditation or is talking about something else. It's a shift of perspective, it's not something you do, it's something you are, so to speak.

until he bangs on about vaccines..

and his Trump derangement syndrome

Is that why I have trouble understanding him.. I don’t think using too many big word in one complex sentence is ideal to get your message across.

Listen to Trump and you'll know what I mean.@@piolin23iq

Yes, there seems to be a tendency towards “no pain, -no gain” -type of mentality there. That is the aspect I have against the stoics in general. In truth we always have the possibility to access the sublime freedom, in every moment throughout. Sure, it may seem to us as “the work” when we in the beginning are trying to get into the habit of catching the present moment of awareness. In a way we are trying to re-programming our ways of meeting reality and that takes some conscious effort for sure. But the real point with meditation is actually what’s happening in our minds between the sessions of meditation. Is our meditation having an effect on us such that we are becoming more aware and mindful effortlessly in our daily activities, or is our experience during meditation not having any impact on us of a more ‘contagious’ nature that is not spilling over into our daily routines at all? I think Sam said it very well when he said that the purpose of meditation is to get familiar with our basic ground of inherent wisdom rather than being an exercise in fabricated states or contrived experiences. Just like enlightenment and the ultimate freedom itself meditation is not about creating or producing anything. It is what’s left when the mind is settled in a completely free state of uncontrived awareness. Freedom arise when the mind remains naturally unperturbed regardless of what arises. At that point the duality of pure and impure stops being relevant criteria for the mind. Whatever arises is instantaneously liberated into the vast expanse of awareness and no further elaborations or proliferations occur. This is the Freedom that is referred to within the Buddhist traditions. As we progress in our meditation practice we start to get glimpses of these unfabricated moments of just being aware. Then we start to understand the timeless nature of our own ground nature and the strong tendency towards the mechanistic dichotomy of efforts and results starts to loosen its grip over us. We then realize that our true nature is always accessible and need no improvement or embellishments. The practice is to let go of all the constructs that block us from having a constant relationship with our basic nature. The term “letting go” is such a potent and vital term in Buddhist practice. In reality it refers to literally dropping or abandoning all obstacles such as opinions, viewpoints, misguided intentions, etc. The ideal is to have a natural mindfulness that ensures that wisdom arise within each moment of experience effortlessly and thus each moment is naturally a moment of freedom. This is something that’s very hard for most people to understand. But enlightenment can never be a chore or a task. That wouldn’t be an authentic enlightened state or experience at all. The reason why chemically induced exalted experiences do not remain permanently is because these experiences are reliant on causes and conditions to arise. They may give glimpses into modes of experiences that can be interpreted as exalted or enlightening but since our mind have not yet completed the process of natural abandonment of its ingrained habits of clinging to obstacles it will soon return back into these habits after such an episode. We cannot cut corners and trick the mind into something it is not yet ready to accept. Enlightenment and ultimate freedom is the state left when all causes and conditions of unenlighted bondage is dissolved in to the nothingness it always was.

Dude has zero wisdom. Just another KZfaq guru with more ego than insight.

@@Bazravish69I agree

Stiller

Respect the request and love the love....salute everyone....wewun!!!