anyone hating on nancy in the comment section is BORING, some of y’all can’t talk about any momoland member without bringing another one down it’s so annoying, is that too difficult omg we are talking about daisy

Popular Unpopular opinion: only ask for “justice” if your bias can sing the house down and get the Haseul treatment. If they can’t even sing encore properly then please stop, let it be

K-pop fans obsess over line distribution way too much. People who have actually wrote and recorded music will understand what she’s saying here without having to be told.

so basically when you can't sing you shouldn't complain for receiving 5sec. the questions start when you're one of the best vocalist and still gets no lines edit : pls check the replies first before cracking your fingers. there's already plenty of nuanced opinions. ty

The way Daisy explains at actually makes senses I think it’s funny though how some artists will purposely mess up to avoid a line they don’t want haha

Now i kinda understand why we used to get confused in between Shuhua ,Soyeon and Soojin's vocals for their b-side tracks in their Rookie era .

Nayeon’s visible hate for I’m Gonna Be a Star makes me 100% believe that it’s not uncommon for idols to intentionally mess up lines they think are embarrassing to sing

some people get mad about line distribution when they don't even consider the important factors... thanks daisy for getting the truth out!!

I found Daisy's answer quite fascinating, and her attitude towards line distribution healthy and mature.

i still remember someone i knew who aspires to be an idol before said that if they were given a chance, it's better to be in a group than go solo so that they'll sing less than the usual and that person actually knows how to sing like fr 😭 and it doesn't hurt to have fewer lines than the other. kinda silly

also you can have 5 seconds and still be memorable in that song. Something that always comes to mind is IVE's Gaeul in After Like. She has 1 line and its probably the killing part of the song and her fancams for After Like have multiple millions of views because of that part.

TWICE members once said all of their parts are switched when the music came out. In Nayeon’s case, they like her tone and think she suits all her parts, especially the intros. I also heard Jeongyeon gave some parts because she did not want to sing a part and gave it to another girl.

I ain't gonna complain when I get less to do and still get paid the same on what's on my contract

The fusing of two voices actually makes a lot of sense. How many we listen to a kpop song and we think it's one member singing and we watch the m/v and it's a different member.

I think some of us, nevies, knew that Soyeon has mixed Shuhua's voice with other members' a lot of times, and we're not crazy. It's not about being a chameleon. If I hear Minnie's very peculiar tone, it's because I'm actually hearing Minnie's voice not other person imitating her. It's even more noticeable since the "I Love" album because Shuhua's voice tends to be less edited than ever. So we're actually hearing her real and clean voice now.

lol what she mentioned last part of diffusing voices into one and not exchanging parts bc of being that person's one line WAS LITERALLY what happened with shuhua in latata (and others songs). NONE of her lines sounds like her at all (just look at lives) and the latata x8 has for sure minnie's voice blended in. and all of her others lines are shared with others members

Kinda explains why I hear heeseung almost everywhere in enhypen songs.

Another thing i would like to point out, when a relatively weak vocalists gets little lines, people try to excuse it by saying "they're the only stable one in the group. they're very stable idk what X company is doing with them :(" ... what if they're stable because they BARELY have any lines at all?

i just know the idols who are tone deaf af must be pissed their fans are protesting them to have more lines 😭

this is why sakura always looks so happy

that's so interesting!!! I'm glad she shared that. also I miss momoland lol I hope all the members are doing well 😭

there’s a lot of examples of the ‘make the two voices together’ thing Sistar19 Bora’s part (G)idle shuhua’s part AOA Mina’s part and it goes on finally someone from the industry itself point it out daisy❤

for people who are interested, there are tons of "recording behind" videos of kpop groups you could have a basic grasp of how they record songs and you could realistically see why some members get fewer lines than others. you could realistically see who are struggling. some groups even show retakes or when a member needs to take over another member's part for singers/producers, watching IU's recording behind is a master class. she is in a level of her own in regards of that. red velvet's are also great. nmixx as well as kiss of life's (refer me to others too, its always a learning experience for me)

I already knew about the „vocal meshing“ ever since I saw that Nine Muses documentary where one member was struggling so bad with one high note, then on the finished track she magically belts it out perfectly but it sounded slightly like a different person even though it was still her line.

this is what bts told live...about solo stans complaining about lack of lines. Part distribution is really not that serious

learning about the diffusing tactic is wild … i’ve never heard of that ! so informative

She has a point. If you want a good example, go watch Unnies Slam dunk season 2. During the recording session, you can see how members' lines were changed because the producers think it won't work.

I kinda have this hunch before she said this. All things from vocalization, tune, and how a melody or beat suits them depends on the singer. I didn't have a problem with unlike any other K-Pop fan because I share the same sentiments with Daisy, they worry less in live singing. I might sound like a hypocrite but, being in a thriving group and having least lines in songs is OK.

Fans complaining about "My idol doesn't get enough lines" but then refuse to stream their solo covers, songs or projects... is certainly a choice...

This just reminds me of how hard MOA tries to push for Beomgyu to have more lines.

I've always thought this about idols who aren't strong vocalists. usually (not always) it's the dancers. they would get very little lines and the fans would get angry but I had a thought that maybe that idol actually doesn't mind because they may not be confident in their singing

So just like how it goes in survival shows, nice - sounds fair to me. omg 1:42 - this explains why so many idols struggle to live sing their parts, they just don't sing well and need production engineering and the vocal backing of other members

The simplest way to describe it is that they want the best person on that part. You would rather want someone who is best on that role rather than someone is good on that role. By nature that means there will be unfair line distribution because the weakest will get the least, that doesnt mean they are bad but its because others are better.

yeah tbh I always thought that if anything screen time/center time would be more important to idols then having a ton of lines. Like she said not everyone of course but if I was an idol that's definitely what I'd prefer

I already figured out everything she said, especially the part where she says an idol can actually be happy about having just a few lines in a song lol that’s just would be me if I were an idol 😂

1:47 - 2:01 I bloody knew it! They do mix voices sometimes. This explains so much when I tell ppl ‘it sounds like x person voice even tho it’s this idols line’ and they wonder why someone else sings it live. Ppl will try and say I’m just hating but no ,my ears work. Your fav just couldn’t sing that line.

If you hear the boys - snsd, yoona part of the second verse actually mix with seohyun and during the live. Seohyun sing with yoona.

she was absolutely right about the "some members get less parts in certain songs and more in others because they fit better" this whole *omg each member or main vocalist or lead vocalist or rapper or whatever needs to have this and that much lines* thinking by stans is one of the reasons why kpop is getting worse by the year, due to how formulaic and strictly manufactured it has all become because of that, just think about how most major releases don't dare to cross the 3:20 mins line anymore, only one of many examples

woah daisy's voice sounds really nice

finally someone said this 😭 fans obsess over line distributions too much. it depends on the idol. some idols would want more, some would be 100% fine with less. and i feel like fans should stop automatically assuming a member is being looked down on or mistreated just because they got less lines

I saw some comments saying that "but some idols only have a few seconds of lines and managed to sing them well, so why don't they get more lines?" That's the whole point, because these idols want to show their best on stage, so some will have less lines because that's the amount of time/lines that they're confident/the company's confident they can sing well when recording and during live performances. But sometimes, the moment you give them longer lines/another part, they may not sound as good/as stable live. (In some cases they might be really good singers but their songs may not be in their comfortable range too) I'm not saying all of them are like this, of course there are some who may be really good singers and the company just doesn't give them more lines. But especially these days, people are always looking for MR removed/live performances/encore performances, and so if they already know that they can't perform well live and they get more lines, some of them may not be as stable and just end up getting attacked, which is why those idols would prefer to have less lines but stable outcome.

a lot of stans need to realize that a lot of kpop idols are just glamorized models with okay to mediocre talent! it is a golden ticket to stardom once you leave whether if they choose to model or act or continue music, they will still have a name for themselves unlike a lot of actors or models who if they choose to leave their inital work environment, they will immediately be a no name. Yes you have to train and work extreme measures to debut but it is so common these days for idols to just pop up in the newly debuted aisle just because they look good enough to market.

I do understand, and I also think that it's okay if some members get more lines (especially if it's the main vocalist). Not only that, but you can shine in other ways ; you can have a short but iconic/killing part, or get center in a dance break, ect. However, I still think it's a shame if the gap is really huge between members. Especially if it's always the same member who gets 5 seconds. After all, as a fan, I want to see all of them shine at some point. If I was an idole I would personally hate not getting lots of lines haha, but I guess it depends on the personality.

Tbh I kinda get where she's coming from but I think the problem most fans have is when the same members get the least lines everytime or not enough for their positions. Like sure sometime you get a bit more or less line but really most groups follow a similar pattern no matter the producer.

Why she always reveal the secret of kpop industry? It's her hobby now😂😂

about another member singing for the original member... i feel like this happens a lot with enhypen. Ihearheeseung's voice even if he'snot the member singing in the center

if the song sounds good it sounds good. I couldnt care less about part distibution

Even after all these years she just as beautiful as she was during 2017 and 2018

Ngl I can picture idols like Dahyun and Hyewon messing up the recordings on purpose idky😂😂.

It really sucks how in the K-Pop industry, nobody gaf about vocals. Like, why does “this member couldn’t sing this well” or “this member doesn’t suit this genre” even exist? An artist should be well equipped vocally and artistically for their own production and songs. Their songs should be molded towards THEM, not molded towards the TRENDS or their AUDIENCE. It’s crazy how idols are expected to sing from Disney grade songs to like rock metal punk. It’s all about the trends and not the members’ vision for their artistic careers.

Wow so what I understand is that some idols are so unbelievably lacking in vocals that they can’t even properly sing the 7 second “talk singing” part they get. But their fans still complain about how they’re “mistreated” lol

I mean if your bias sings like sakura then you should stop complaining about her getting small amount of lines

"not a generalization" *sly face 😏😏*

I've been in a group of vocalists. In the beggining we all want more parts but recording and doing it live is so stressfull that in MY group a lot of people want less lines, dancing and singing at the same it's hard guys, so we were pretty happy we fewer lines. And just like she said, different songs feel better with different vocalists, so it's totally ok to sing less than others in some songs. Besides, sometimes your focus is not on singing but dancing so yeah you get less lines but you get a key part in the choreography

When Daisy mentioned the producer having another singer of the group go in to sing another person's part, and the sound engineers fusing the two voices together had me thinking of a certain group that has a member who's really bad at singing, and her fans talking about her voice is a fusion of three other members.

Thank you for this. I get so tired of the endless justice for comments lol. I mean producers are just trying to make a great song, they don't care about line distribution fairness or even positions. They just want it to be a hit, and despite many of these comments, they obviously are doing their jobs. Also, on the flip side, the idols themselves may be very comfortable with the few lines they get and don't want more lol.

Imagine not being able to sing properly the only part the producers believed you could sing. I would feel so embarrassed hahaha

Fully agree with this, but Beomgyu getting zero lines in that one song is a literal crime 😭 like, at least let him sing one word or something. Also I can’t remember the name of the song sorry

OMFG LONG TIME NO SEE HER 😭😭😭 GLAD SHE DOING FINE

why do I feel like this is the reason why shuhua's voice is so different in live, like in the recording she sounds like minnie, miyeo etc.

The 'merging voices' thing makes a lot of sense bc I swear sometimes I hear two members singing at the same time when I really listen in, but it's always shown to be just one member singing it during music shows and such

I mean she’s right. I don’t want to mention any member from any group but if they’re given a vocally challenging song then why would you force a member with a below average voice to have the same amount of lines with the main vocalist?

The way Daisy already put the disclaimer in the beginning tells alot to these kpop fans in the comments 😭😭😭😭

So that's why Moka sounds like Yunah on Magnetic lol

Yall just enjoy the songs ok. All the members work hard in almost all groups. They dc and so should you. Just enjoy the music.

I would be pretty happy to don't need to sing half the song and earn same money ngl

I feel like, as a producer, you should consider all members' voices, I get that music producers have some kind of visions for what they want to create though and of course, having less lines would not be an issue for some, but it would be an issue for others, I know that at least Sooyeong from SNSD talked about that also, less lines usually lead to less screen time in mv and less center time in performance, and, as a fan, I want to see and hear my favs as well

Realizing that maybe we care more about the line distribution than the idols do 💀💀

Mia singing yiren’s “youre so dundundundundun…” in dun dun lolll

I mean she is 100% right. Like I have seen some idols be angry with line distribution but they also are not good singers so why are you mad...learn how to sing and then you will have more lines in a song. I would also be happy to have small amount of lines to sing if I were them, it's less work.

The thing about the sound engineers joining two voices into one makes sooo much sense now. I was always confused how so many artists could not even do the notes that they sang in recording, live. Makes so much sense. Some ppl cant hit those notes, so when theyre live and they attempt it, of course itll sound bad. Its not them and they cant do it.

I think if i was an idol and got less lines I'd also be happy cuz singing while dancing is really hard

comment section proves that people would really just hear what they wanted to hear, feign ignorance to the things they dont want to hear, twist words to get the phrases they want to get. multiple artist have been asked and answered this topic, what more do you want? if you dont want to listen to their answer why even bother asking?

So basically if you can’t sing, you’re not gonna get many lines …how hard was that for people to understand?

i feel like she’s referring to nayun since she’s the only member from momoland with little to no lines in every of their songs.

I love how she's spewing experiential facts yes to fighting misinformation HAHAHAHA

June 2nd, 2024 I love that she put a disclaimer in the beginning;; it’s interesting that some idols really hate cringy lines 😭

She’s so real for this. Not everyone “deserves” more lines because, well, they either don’t suit the vibe of the song or are not strong singers. Unfortunately in Kpop, there a more weak singers than there are stronger singers. Some can’t even call themselves singers at all. People need to stop getting their panties in a twist over line distribution bcs at the end of the day the producers working with the singers know each members’ strengths and weaknesses more than any of us would.

Can someone PLEASE tell me what mascara she put on? Her eyelashes were perfectttt

honestly i'm passed my phase of caring about line distributions and i totally understand her explanation, nowadays i just like to watch the numbers, bars and the difference between the members. for me, there's something so satisfying about it tbh

I thought about Winwin from NCT/WayV, Winwin sang the same 2 songs when he was a member of nct 127 and wayv, but in wayv he didn't get any more lines, when wayv became 6 members, the former member's lines were assigned to the other members

Well its different for T-ara cuz they choose the part themselves which they feel the best for each one of them, i saw the documentary they just discuss and cross the written lyrics for them to sing

Part distribution is only important to people who need controversy for youtube content.

For the « mixing part », the first thing I think of is in LADIDA by everglow. During yiren « rap » part in the bridge, I always ear E:U. That might explains

Good point she made about not every person fits on every song.

I think it's really interesting how some producers will merge two voices together to make it sound like one person is singing a part that they're struggling with, learned something new 😊

Tbf i think they would have a say in it, whether they're ok with it or not - some people just don't wanna sing live ig lmao

As someone involved in production, it's such a nightmare working with groups that are more than 5. The main producer sometimes wants the face of the group to sing specific lyrics, sometimes we would record everyone to pick the right voice only then to just mix 2 or 3 vocals together. But don't be discouraged by this cuz not everyone in a group wants to sing, I know someone who just wants to dance and be given a few to little lines in the song.

I actually feel relieved when an idol gets less lines because I think of how frustrating singing a lot of would be in tours and concerts, all that while dancing.

I know what she said about her rap parts in Momoland's songs, but hearing her talk so honestly about her experiences as a Kpop idol just makes me appreciate more everything Momoland gave us and makes me want to listen to their bops on repeat. xd

everyone be complaining about their idols not having fair line distribution, then hating on them for singing bad on live performances. they should also consider their idol's decision whether or not to have a lot or fewer lines.

I want her to be in the dive studio! That would be so fun

I just wanna know how the duck did we get 3 seasons of Produce 101 SHOWING THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROCESS and yet here we are in 2024 & this discussion is still a thing???? ATP if you’re still fighting about line distributions you’re a lost cause

And this is why I only get annoyed when an idol in my preferred groups has almost (or actually) no lines in a song. They worked hard to be able to sing, so I want them to sing, but not everyone wants to sing a lot. Some members are happy to dance and some prefer being the visual member. I don’t know what these recording sessions looked like, so I can't judge anything (but I will be absolutely livid if we have a repeat of TXT's Happily Ever After, for _any_ member. There is no excuse).

RIGHT THATS WHAT I ALWAYS THOGUHT cuz like if I were in their shoes and I had like only 5 seconds to sing then at live performances I can just put all my effort into those five and not worry abt getting outta breath and dance @ the same time

I'mma save this vid for reference later 😉

It just shows that line distribution doesn't matter too much, peoplw shouldn't be angry that some idols have very little lines, if an idol isn't good at singing then it makes sense.

People (fans) think theyre "better" if they have more parts, but honestly for the stars themselves, most of them dont care. Some will even want to avoid the work.

again, as daisy said multiple times, this doesn't apply to everyone. there are plenty of examples of groups with members who can sing VERY well but still members who cant sing as well as them will get more oarts or more difficult parts bc of a variety of reasons: sometimes it's because theyre more popular or the center, or sheer favouritism by the company, or favouring international - usually japanese - members so that there's a balance in lines between korean and international members.

the fact they fuse two peoples vocals together to make one members part… nuts