Are there tools like simc in wow that make it possible to concretely determine how increases to damage vs. increased application rate affect overall dps? I kind of feel like without those sorts of tools, or even a damage meter that a lot of this sort of thing is “feely-crafty” I guess you could kill the same level boss with different setups while timing yourself could be a way of coming up with numbers would work, but that’s a lot of time investment.

@@shaunybonny688 Bit late to reply but it is much less complicated than you think. The rate at which you apply DoTs is affecting how many DoTs will be on an enemy 1/1. If I apply 50% more DoTs per hit or attack 50% faster I will deal 50% more damage with my DoTs because the target will have 50% more DoTs on them. Sounds obvious and that's because it is. So what that means is that you can basically view both your application per hit % as well as your attack/cast speed as a multiplicative damage increase akin to a simple more multiplier. Now unfortunately the game does not have the best tools to show you all of those stats (application per hit can have multiple sub-categories like ignite on fire skill etc that won't be anywhere on your character screen) so that part is definitely a bit tedious. Best thing you can do is take the stats that the game gives you on your character screen and then go through your gear and passives and add all the ones that are too specific to be on your character screen. So what I usually end up doing is do that tedious process once and collect all the numbers myself and then keep them in the back of my head. And then when I wanna make an upgrade I just remember and go like "Ah a 100% increases fire damage upgrade. I have 1000% increased damage already so that's ~9% more damage." or "A 30% increased cast speed upgrade. I have 50% increased cast speed already so that's a ~33% damage increase (assuming all your DoTs come from casts of course)." etc etc. After a while looking at a stat and immediately doing that tiny bit of mind gymnastics will become natural and super quick to do almost like muscle memory. However once you have abilities that work on completely different principles, like say Cthonic Fissure for example that doesn't care about cast speed at all, this whole process becomes a lot more complicated. Best thing you can do then is hit the dummy with just 1 skill and then see how much of your DPS that ability actually contributes and then adjust above calculations accordingly. But even a tool would struggle to show more complicated setups in a concise and correct way.

Haha, I didn't even realize. Well done :)

If the Aura deals damage over time you can buff it's damage by getting damage over time or % Fire damage on your gear. (Pretty sure it's fire damage right?)... Also of course grab a Helmet or Chest or Relic with +Judgement on them. :)

The aura scales off of Healing Effectiveness and Elemental DoT rly well bc those stats can roll higher values compared to fire dmg and general DoT

Thanks for the info!

Aura of Decay gains +4% increased damage per point of intelligence, so Int is a great stat. Spell damage won't help you at all since the ability isn't classified as a spell. It's a damage over time ability (it doesn't "hit" enemies)... So yeah, Int will help, Spell damage will not.

Bow damage and increased physical bow damage do not help with bleed or damage over time... The initial hit of Puncture will be harder, but not the bleeds it applies. :)

@@ZucoWoW Thanks!

Yes, absolutely! Def try to find items that increase the level of whatever skill you're using!

If you shred armor or resistances, that will increase the damage of whatever dot you're applying. I.e, if you shred physical resistance, it will buff the damage of your bleeds on the enemy.

Your skill will have a channeling tag if it applies.

@@oFiGuReZo OK - good to know... I thought it was just using any skill

@@LakerTriangle Channeling is pretty much just a skill that you hold down, essentially full auto. Flurry is a good example.

Channeling skills also count as dealing damage over time (almost always)... Be sure to check the damage tags for sure, but you should be able to scale the damage with Increases to damage over time.

@@ZucoWoW not really man, channeling and dmg over time are not tied together, for example healing hands can be a channeling spell/attack that hits. Elemental nova also can be channel and hit, not dot... The hit can apply ailments, you kinda got that part confused

Did I say It said "more"?

Couple things. Hold ALT while hovering over Disintegrate. You'll see that it scales with Intelligence on top of all of it's other damage modifiers (like damage over time, Fire damage, etc.). I'd check if the belt you're swapping out has Intelligence on it vs. the new belt. Second, +More damage is better then +Increased damage. It's a lot of complicated math, but just know that +More damage scales better then +Increased damage. Third, Disintegrate also scales with BOTH Fire damage and Lightning damage. Check the belt and see if either belt has those mods as well. Again, as you've described the 2 belts, It's probably just the difference between +More damage scaling vs. +Increased damage.

@@ZucoWoW Thank you bro. I think I got it. One of the passives gives triple spell damage above 200 mana. What I don't understand is why since I now got it above 200 mana it still says 98k and not 105k anymore. I guess I'll figure it out. How much dmg is disintegrate supposed to do late game when it's op? Fuck the math 🤣🤣🤣

@@arishatz91 I mean... 100k per second is pretty good for end-game. I'd say it's solid for starting to get into level 100 Empowered Mono's. You can def scale it higher, but the numbers look good in general.

@@ZucoWoW The problem is it says on the spell 100k but I don't see it oneshotting anyone and it has trouble against bosses idk why. My static or says only 2000 and it oneshots enemies while my fireball sits at 20k and it needs a few hits to go off but it's very effective. My only good items are calamity and ignivars head so I went for the fire damage.

@@arishatz91 It's def tricky. I've had a similar experience with certain abilities not dealing as much damage as the tooltip says. Keep working on it, I'm sure the Devs are working on these issues. :)

For sure, I should have mentioned that one. I was def just trying to go over the basics for damage over time for people struggling to make those builds work, without going too far into the exceptions. :)

I'm in a big room where other activities are happening, so I have to lower the gain a lot in order to not have other voices picked up, etc... So unfortunately that's the situation I'm in. You can simply lower the volume my friend. :)

For sure! I'm going to make a follow up video on all of those abilities that deal damage over time without inflicting ailments. I just wanted to start with this video to cover the most obvious damage over time types that exist in the game! Stay tuned for part 2.