In 1942 Stanislaw Lem survived a Nazi firing squad. This is the story of what he did next.

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Science Fiction with Damien Walter

Science Fiction with Damien Walter

Күн бұрын

00:00 The Lviv ghetto 1942
03:41 PART ONE - Incomprehending the Comprehensible
03:45 Professor Gomel 1
05:31 The Five Lems
07:08 Professor Gomel 2
08:26 The Holocaust and the Stars
11:10 Ijon Tichy : Raumpilot
13:13 His Master's Voice
16:16 INTERLUDE - Lem vs the SFWA
19:08 PART TWO - When Bad People Do Good Things
19:17 Provocation
20:45 Professor Gomel 3
25:40 The Ethics of Kitsch
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@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 3 ай бұрын
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@mach-symroscisawski1560
@mach-symroscisawski1560 3 ай бұрын
Sir If you are interested in a factual non-sectarian, non-agenda driven analysis of Stanisław Lem works and presence in Polish culture feel free to contact me. (by the way the ladies who you kindly invited to you story are suuuuuuuuuuper biased and deliver over-interpretation on demand)
@tomspoors768
@tomspoors768 3 ай бұрын
"Humans aren't faced with an incomprehensible reality, we just don't like the reality that we can comprehend". One of those pause, reflect and replay lines, Damien. Thought-stopping narrative! Thank you!
@EerieV23
@EerieV23 3 ай бұрын
I rewound 4x to listen to this part again. The interlude was so well placed to help digest this
@jamesleonard2870
@jamesleonard2870 3 ай бұрын
It’s another way of saying we live in a massive psyop. Which I totally agree with.
@MADmaxazillion
@MADmaxazillion 10 күн бұрын
All Discordians out there can confirm that it's all in fact an elaborate plot spun by the Bavarian Illuminati!
@AndDiracisHisProphet
@AndDiracisHisProphet 3 ай бұрын
Lem is probably the most underrated science fiction author. at least in the west
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
Is he really? I think he's well known and admired because of Solaris.
@loczek1965
@loczek1965 3 ай бұрын
Stanisław Lem? On my English speaking channel? Wild.
@GentleReader01
@GentleReader01 3 ай бұрын
It’s likelier than you think!
@bexrayspex
@bexrayspex 12 күн бұрын
I absolutely adore Lem, ever since I watched Solaris and then decided to read it. Fiasco came next and it blew my mind
@lloydmorcom9789
@lloydmorcom9789 3 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video essay Damien. I grew up in a very remote, small, poor town in southern Australia. In the immediate post war, our town hosted quite a few survivors of both the Nazi and Soviet repressions. This was in addition to many men of my parents age who were war veterans. On top of that, my mother had worked for a Communist newspaper in New Zealand before she met my dad. He, on the other hand, was a gloomy, authoritarian man who thought the country needed a strong leader, someone like dear Adolf! By the time I was ten or eleven, I felt I needed to know what it was that had ended seven years before I was born. Obviously, I was never going to have a happy, carefree childhood! I quickly realised, even at that young age, that it was not a particular weakness of the Germans which led to all the horror. I began to see proto-fascists living all around me, walking the streets, just waiting for Mr Right to come along and give them permission to do what and to whom. Family life was no picnic, but in time, I came to see that it would have been a lot worse. At least I hadn't been born in Germany in the twenties or thirties. I have no doubt that my dad would have been a high official in AH's administration. Then me and my brothers would truly have had something to regret! One of the major, if not the foremost question for my generation is, why did the Holocaust happen? I'm in the middle of writing a big fat Sci-Fi, set eighty years from now, which among many other things, sets out to explore the origins of this mystery. Not an easy subject to tackle, but hats off to you! You did something really good here!
@kedabro1957
@kedabro1957 2 ай бұрын
Holocausts happen because ... (1) Children get taught that success comes from conforming to the norm. (2) Success actually comes from having rare skills. So nonconformists succeed and conformists fail. (3) Conformists get jealous and erase the evidence that their values were lies.
@loczek1965
@loczek1965 3 ай бұрын
The author whose range goes from "It truly makes sense to learn such a language-because it constructs philosophers, while ours constructs only philosophies." (translated by Joanna Zylinska) to "Now to make it in the arts, publicize your private parts! Critics say you can't offend 'em with your phallus or pudendum!" (translated by Michael Kandel)
@yoolec
@yoolec 3 ай бұрын
This topic is a niche of a niche, especially since it is on an English-language channel. Respect.
@SFDestiny
@SFDestiny 3 ай бұрын
I suppose this topic is subjective. I took the essay to be an explanation of MAGA and Drumpf45.
@EerieV23
@EerieV23 3 ай бұрын
This is your best video yet. I was looking for some kitsch. Instead, I am served a three course meal of beauty in 30 minutes. Thank you
@LateBoomer-sl1dk
@LateBoomer-sl1dk 3 ай бұрын
Wow. Excellent piece. May the algorithm be merciful.
@backpocketuniverse
@backpocketuniverse 3 ай бұрын
I'm very struck by your highlight of Nazism as a triumph of mediocrity. It's so obvious when one stops and thinks about it: Hitler was an almost comically mediocre person, and his movement actively engaged the mediocre while persecuting the exceptional. In hindsight, it seems that Hitler was able to pull a rabbit trick, not only on the German people, but on history, by tapping into archetypal symbols and primitive impulses that were inherently powerful. We continue to be drawn to those symbols, fascinated by the powers of destruction and control he drew from them, and they distract us from the awful truth of the mundane evil beneath it. Thank you for this video, Damien.
@tomaszmankowski9103
@tomaszmankowski9103 3 ай бұрын
Yes, that is a striking realisation... One could attribute the same description to numerous, modern authoritarian movements, parties and regimes . Nazi regime being historically the extreme of that due to the industrial scale of the Holocaust and how much the German society was changed in less than a decade before the WW2 started.
@heblanchard
@heblanchard 3 ай бұрын
Excellent essay. I can see where it would be a distraction to your thesis to cite this, but it is notable that an additional element to the SFWA problems was that the American writer Philip K. Dick (who is sometimes compared to Lem) had an absolute vendetta against Lem, perceiving him as a communist, and actually, a communist fiction - Dick cited the "multiple Lems" not as evidence of creativity but as evidence that Lem was a communist fiction whose works were written by different committees. A fantasy very P. K. Dick ... and very Lem. But. A topic for another day.
@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 3 ай бұрын
I also couldn't document what their actual relationship was. They seemed to reach some kind of resolution, at least on Lem's side.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
​@@DamienWalter Dick was famously subject to delusions. Maybe it was the drugs.
@rvnsglcr7861
@rvnsglcr7861 3 ай бұрын
Lem is ignored in the Anglosphere primarily because his analysis & critiques cut directly & unapologetically into its religion of ham-fisted "usefulness."
@legion999
@legion999 3 ай бұрын
" religion of ham-fisted "usefulness."" What the heck are you talking about?
@a.tevetoglu3366
@a.tevetoglu3366 3 ай бұрын
@@legion999 it sounds like he is saying that the majority consists of people who prefer to be entertained instead of being inspired.
@KaliFissure
@KaliFissure 3 ай бұрын
As well as mocking the pedantic over specialization of the sciences
@bootstrapbill98
@bootstrapbill98 3 ай бұрын
​@legion999 possibly that in the west/anglophone world, we place an almost religious importance on the pure utility of a thing, regardless of its origins or side effects; to the point that we disdain anything that advocates for or investigates the more esoteric, humanist or ethical aspects of life. A book that says "hey maybe we should not develop X technology because we have no idea what it's impact might be, and we're barely mature enough as a species to manage healthily the technology we already have." Would likely receive little to no attention in the mainstream, nor would it be allowed to make a significant impact on us due to being "anti progress" regardless of how good a point it makes. TL;DR: we're obsessed with pure pragmatism & forcing everything to be utilitarian, which means we largely ignore cautionary tales, regardless of how wise or well informed they may be
@wm2922
@wm2922 3 ай бұрын
​@@bootstrapbill98 that was a great explanation, thank you! Being Polish and having read most of Lem's work, I can feel Lem's scepticism of the West's utilitarianism / religion of progress as well. I've always felt the same way, maybe that's why. I'm not sure what exactly is the main reason behind this perspective - perhaps it's Polish people's general scepticism towards big intellectual/cultural movements that turn into ideologies and sectarian quasi-religions - a main theme in our history (i.e., being grinded by the uber-utilitarian German culture / Soviets for centuries) or perhaps it's the Polish romanticism that likes to combine the mind with the heart. Or maybe it's something totally different. Just to be clear: I'm not hating on anglophones - quite contrary, I feel like it's the second closest culture to my heart there is, right after Polish culture. Stay well!
@AStrang3r
@AStrang3r 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Serendipity: I'm only now getting around to reading my first Lem book, Solaris. That was a really powerful essay, with real emotional punch, that I had to sit back and reflect on for some time. Going back many years, to high school, I studied modern history and Nazism. I can't help but think that Lem's analysis would have been a brilliant addition to the material and general discussion. Based on your essay here I can't help but feel that Lem is one of the writer's whose work will stay with me long after reading. Time will tell - I'll be on the hunt for his works soon enough. Thank you.
@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@TatianaBoshenka
@TatianaBoshenka 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that was powerful. I have to read Lem now.
@jenfries6417
@jenfries6417 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant essay. Science fiction is not my favorite genre, but Lem is my favorite science fiction writer, and one of my favorite writers in general. I am surprised that many English-speaking fans of the genre are unfamiliar with Lem, since he has been widely translated, but I'm not surprised that he'd have a limited audience. Satire is a hard sell in any genre, and even the funniest of Lem's stories are intellectual workouts, leaving us with a disquieting uncertainty - rarely the stuff of genre fiction. Still, he may be the most perfect example for an argument that science fiction is "serious" literature.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 3 ай бұрын
Watching this video made me think about Victoria Amelina, an acclaimed Ukrainian novelist, born and raised in the same city as Lem, Lviv. Her second and last novel (not counting a children's book) Дім для Дома, rather loosely translated to English as "Dom's Dream Kingdom", is about a family living in the very same apartment where Lem spent his childhood. Victoria will not write any more books. During the current war of Russian aggression, she devoted herself to documenting war crimes by interviewing survivors and witnesses. Until she became a victim herself when on 27 June 2023 a Russian Iskander rocket hit a restaurant in Kramatorsk, where she was. She died a few days later, at age 37. Makes me wonder what Lem would say about it all.
@vegandinner1731
@vegandinner1731 3 ай бұрын
Excellent lunchtime brain food. Thanks Damien.
@capsjukebox
@capsjukebox 3 ай бұрын
Hospital of the Transfiguration was the first Lem book I read in college and I’ve been transfixed by everything I read by him since. Well done! I still feel like he doesn’t get enough credit in the US.
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 23 сағат бұрын
There's a movie of it on KZfaq here, if it hasn't been taken down.
@opowiadaniasci-fi
@opowiadaniasci-fi 3 ай бұрын
Much respect for finally putting that here.❤
@dvdragon
@dvdragon 3 ай бұрын
This is so well done. It’s nice to hear your thoughts that are so well put together. Thanks!
@stratovation1474
@stratovation1474 3 ай бұрын
The Nazis and their ilk were a parody of a real civilization, such as the one that produced Goethe and Beethoven. They were obsessed with art and the law, or rather parodies thereof. I learned so much from my brilliant uncle who barely survived Buchewald and lived to 102 despite needing to take his "Hitler pills" every day. Digestion ruined by starvation. He seemed to remember everything, had some positive recollections of some guards and contempt for allies bombing the trains that carried prisoners to the east. He was well read in many languages, loved astronomy and music, commissioned a fellow survivor, a Jew, to paint a symbolic painting of the Holocaust. He was angry at Norway for not protecting its small Jewish population. His family lost everything twice, in the Russian Revolution and the Nazi occupation of Norway. He was a positive person but had no illusions of what humans can do.
@fhoniemcphonsen8987
@fhoniemcphonsen8987 3 ай бұрын
Talk about synchronicity, just started revisiting the cyberiad in audio. Great piece, grew up reading lem without context.
@sunjiudjiji
@sunjiudjiji 3 ай бұрын
This is a well measured video essay. I completely agree that HMV is the keystone of Lem's work. Even aside from the autobiographical passages.
@Nekudza
@Nekudza 3 ай бұрын
Excellent essay. And that quote from prof. Gomel that "humanism died in the Eastern Europe" in the last 100 years just hits hard, it is so true. Cheers from Ukraine for amazing content!
@iankclark
@iankclark 3 ай бұрын
The last second of this video: the lip curl of disgust. Well done Damien.
@kraz007
@kraz007 3 ай бұрын
Amazing start to the essay! Hats off
@MrUndersolo
@MrUndersolo 3 ай бұрын
Have a stack of his work to work my way through, and I thank you for this one. I knew very little about this part of his life and it explains a lot. 📚
@michaelgrosberg2665
@michaelgrosberg2665 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful video essay, Damo.
@tomaszmankowski9103
@tomaszmankowski9103 3 ай бұрын
Excellent work! I was surprised by the subject, but it made it even more interesting and striking to watch the entire video.
@jessemiller7540
@jessemiller7540 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this essay.
@chcomes
@chcomes 3 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis. I started reading Lem for his imagination, truly foreign worlds (Cyberiada). Some of his book ideas are powerful to make us think. His humor makes him more human. Some of his philosophy is a bit superficial, but still great.
@GentleReader01
@GentleReader01 3 ай бұрын
Wow. I’m going to be thinking about this, and doing follow up reading, a long time ago thank you.
@lisaboban
@lisaboban 3 ай бұрын
Other than "Solaris" I've not read any Lem. I need to remedy that condition.
@marcocatano554
@marcocatano554 3 ай бұрын
thank you for this. Honestly you have help me make my mind and read Solaris. It also made me learn something new, the epistolar debate with Ursula K Le Guin has some very interesting points that make me respect both authors even more.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
Solaris is a good introduction because including a sad love story makes the familiar Lem tropes a bit more digestible.
@konst80hum
@konst80hum 3 ай бұрын
Very well put. I need to read more Lem.
@Thesiouxempirepodcast
@Thesiouxempirepodcast 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding video
@roo72
@roo72 2 ай бұрын
Excellent essay, thank you.
@TheUncannyF
@TheUncannyF 3 ай бұрын
When I saw the announcement on incoming video on Stanisław Lem, I could hardly believe the coincidence - since I considered pointing You to Lem. I first got a hand on Lem's works during high-school - It was an old edition of "The Star Diaries". It almost killed me via asphyxiation due to sheer amount of laughter it induced - even after over 20 years later I still vividly remember gasping for breath. Later I tried "Wizja Lokalna" (EN: "Observation on the Spot") which is an extension of journey fourteen from "Star Diaries". This was, at the time, a bit too heavy on concepts and language (Lem tends to invent a lot of words/terms, it can get pretty dense even for native speaker). It did somewhat put me a bit off regarding more of Lem. Nevertheless, I've read "Bajki Robotów" (EN: "Fables for Robots"), but then came upon "Wielkość Urojona" which put me off due to, most likely, my immaturity and lack of understanding of grander themes in literature. I do not know what this one is called in English... it contains of introductions to non-existing books (similar to reviews of fictional publications You spoke about). Recently I remembered/recalled Lem again and decided to get back to his world. I started with podcasts/lectures from people who interviewed Lem over the years - especially by Stanisław Bereś (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozmowy_ze_Stanis%C5%82awem_Lemem). Mr. Bereś was unable to get Lem to talk about holocaust for any length - in interviews/lectures given afterwards he always underlines how skilled Lem was in steering the conversation as to avoid/dismiss this topic (imagine a chess game with a grandmaster who thinks 20 moves ahead). Apparently the interviewer was under complete control of the interviewee and he had known this, and has seen no chance of breaking out of this due to sheer power of Lem intellect... I sincerely hope more people get to know Stanisław Lem thanks to Your work.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
The Holocaust is too horrific to confront head on. It can only be approached in an oblique way.
@DebErelene
@DebErelene 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Thought provoking indeed.
@thekeywitness
@thekeywitness 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insights about this terrific writer.
@captainmission
@captainmission 12 күн бұрын
have to hand it to you damien, this was your best and most important one yet. lem is freaking amazing! i can't wait to read provokation, once someone translates it.
@oasismike2905
@oasismike2905 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I really appreciate finding out where so many seminal Science Fiction concepts and tropes actually come from, and learning a tiny bit of the real story of, "Solarus." Scary AF what this means for myself -- I thought I liked, "Solarus," (and do) as a dystopian love story where George Clooney's character was giving new meaning to aliens, and bridging a gap between us thus allowing them to learn who we are. The idea of reading the source material was too troublesome and daunting due to my A.D.D. But, that I was so fundamentally missing the point of the book, in effect making the comprehensible incomprehensible... I really should read a book sometime, it's been a while.
@obsidiantain
@obsidiantain 3 ай бұрын
This is rather excellent! I knew Lem through Solaris, but was properly exposed when living in Poland. I find the conclusions here deeply unsettling yet highly relevant. Thanks for the video, important work.
@danieldelvalle5004
@danieldelvalle5004 3 ай бұрын
An absolutely amazing video, I salute you. I have Provocation in a Spanish translation. Now I must read it.
@r4d213ck1
@r4d213ck1 3 ай бұрын
te czasy wrócą
@DaPhunkeeFeel1
@DaPhunkeeFeel1 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video essay, I'm going to see if I can find Provocation at the library this weekend. This use of kitsch is bringing some clarity to something I've found striking as late: the profound mediocrity and sloppiness of Israeli and Israel-aligned genocide propaganda and propagandists.
@muesique
@muesique 3 ай бұрын
Just have to count my Lem books - 39.😏
@jtthoma5
@jtthoma5 3 ай бұрын
Can you possibly direct us to a translation of Provocation?
@Davidiusdadi
@Davidiusdadi 3 ай бұрын
thanks from germany. 🙏 23:38 onwards blew my mind Never thought of Nazis as a mob of mediocrity desperate for a transcend purpose.
@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 3 ай бұрын
Thank you David, much appreciated
@a.tevetoglu3366
@a.tevetoglu3366 3 ай бұрын
I love Lem. And Capek.
@user-gx5ve6or4d
@user-gx5ve6or4d 3 ай бұрын
Well shit….my reading list just got longer. For Lem veterans recommending works for a reader that loves the absurd, what would be your top 3?
@TheUncannyF
@TheUncannyF 3 ай бұрын
"The Star Diaries", "The Futurological Congress", "Memoirs Found in a Bathtub". However, You'd have to research which translation is best... Lem tends to invent new words on the spot, often to describe technologies he just came up with (i.e. he called VR "Phantomatics"), also uses wordplay for humor (IIRC a cat fell into some vat filled with chemicals and turned into "sodium bicatorade"), also uses archaic words or figures of speech... not easy to translate I guess.
@beauwilliamson3628
@beauwilliamson3628 3 ай бұрын
The Cyberiad - masterwork of the absurd Tales of Pyrx the Pilot The Star Diaries (one overlap with the other answer)
@JohannesSkolaude
@JohannesSkolaude 3 ай бұрын
I would add eden. Also realy missunderstood i think. Which might be the point
@tomaszmankowski9103
@tomaszmankowski9103 3 ай бұрын
Very good recommendations by others, so I will add just one - "Peace on Earth" from 1987.
@Nekudza
@Nekudza 3 ай бұрын
I'm fond of "His Master's Voice" for deepness of concepts and sheer scale but as it was rightfully said here, Lem is very different, so you can find anything for your taste
@markpmar0356
@markpmar0356 3 ай бұрын
This essay on Lem's work, particularly "Provocation", seems highly germane during this "Trump interval", if you will. Trump's obvious mediocrity, the undeniable mendacity, the tedious overweening self-promotion, the pleasure he takes in insulting others far better than he, and the presence of his personally-branded kitsch all fit neatly into Lem's critique. His distaste for American sci-fi comes as a surprise but it's not an unreasonable position to take, in my opinion.
@leonardkrol2600
@leonardkrol2600 3 ай бұрын
Has Lem said anything about the Jihad? I would like to know his opinion of this.
@user-km3mp7fe1h
@user-km3mp7fe1h 3 ай бұрын
Only the embracing of suffering can produce beautiful Art.
@shantoreywilkins651
@shantoreywilkins651 3 ай бұрын
🎥🕵️
@benquinneyiii7941
@benquinneyiii7941 3 ай бұрын
Aktion
@Fl4ppers
@Fl4ppers 3 ай бұрын
As we step into the reality of AI in out real world, maybe Lem has a point about the uncaring being learned by AI, and any AI will struggle to learn balance and humility in these short years.
@matthieujoly
@matthieujoly 3 ай бұрын
May i say.. excellent ? At least.
@Humanophage
@Humanophage 3 ай бұрын
I don't really see what is so mediocre about assorted famous figures of the sort. They were brave, highly intelligent, good at organisation, lots of great scientists, and so on. Carl Schmitt is mediocre? Heidegger is mediocre? Junger? Jung? Hylter? Goebbels? Breker? Orff? Also there is nothing superficial about these symbols or the values they promote. Just because something is not neurotically maudlin and doesn't engage with Christianity doesn't mean it's shallow. As to the Holocaust, why the faux surprise? People dislike middleman minorities. Violence against them is common around the world. Germany had more industrial capabilities and a more modern state, so it engaged in a more systematic backlash against such minorities than what we would see against Armenians in Turkey, Chinese in Malaysia, Jews in Eastern Europe, etc.
@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 3 ай бұрын
That's an accurate selfie of your shitty little soul.
@coldwater5707
@coldwater5707 Ай бұрын
Yes. Strange isn't it? In such fashion they mock the non J identity and then promote the J identity per the Tribe's evolutionary strategy as outlined in "The Culture of Critique".
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
​@@DamienWalter Sad to see that this Nazi got even one like.
@user-pz2lt7ox1r
@user-pz2lt7ox1r 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what Stanislaw Lem would say about the Israel-Gaza war
@lisaboban
@lisaboban 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what he would think about MAGA.
@Themonist
@Themonist 3 ай бұрын
To be honest invading a state that doesn't have it's own armed forces can't really be called a "war"?. More like colonial annihilation of the native peoples? Literally Lebensraum?
@personzorz
@personzorz 3 ай бұрын
Ever read Fiasco?
@lisaboban
@lisaboban 3 ай бұрын
@@personzorz Nope. But I'm sure going to!
@jfziemba
@jfziemba 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what Lem would think of this video.@@lisaboban
@jonathanedwardgibson
@jonathanedwardgibson 3 ай бұрын
Verity, indeed. How safe is this space? Like, I am curious when the additional three million victims were added, and from, because when I grew up in the 60’s-70’s we heard three million Jews killed. My childhood weekends were filled watching horror of World At War series. I recently listened to Frank Herbert’s 1985 UCLA interview where he mentions this 3m figure, too. We don’t accept the fairy tales we are told, even when we can’t put our fingers on what is false or wrong: we just know somethings are not adding up. Forensic accounting, please. Reminded of the Catholic Church dating claims various Basilica were post-Roman designs just stuck in the past, yet there are no brothels, apartment blocks, or latrines, built when these Great Works were supposedly built. I studied architecture and was taught how pivitol these structures were to affix our civ history - yet Charlemagne’s palace was made with Roman Cement, which was lost to Middle Ages. As church became the Roman empire the cataclysm of our Dark Ages blotting out sun bringing famine had to be dis-associated from God’s Judgement of Christians. Popes{s} had eclipses and cosmic events rewritten to support a timeline-of-miracles jusitfying their rule and complete fraud. Astronomers and mathematicians found the truth, but we already knew something was wrong from all the pedos. Sad how Israeli’s suffer Berlin Syndrome: Never Again Means We Do It Too. Where goes Gaza, so goes our world.
@DamienWalter
@DamienWalter 3 ай бұрын
Watch the essay. It's about you.
@royfokerpoker1802
@royfokerpoker1802 3 ай бұрын
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@jenfries6417
@jenfries6417 3 ай бұрын
I suggest reading actual history in addition to science fiction. The Nazis themselves provided all the forensic accounting you demand. After all, they were not ashamed of what they were doing, and they thought they were going to win, so they kept meticulous records of all their murders and exterminations, really until close to the end of the war, when they began to fall apart. And after all, there are only so many bodies you can burn at a time. They themselves provided the physical and documentary evidence that condemned them for their crimes. If you don't want to believe even what they said about themselves, then I wonder if you're really seeking evidence, or merely seeking validation for your preferred story.
@EastoftheDanube
@EastoftheDanube 3 ай бұрын
@@DamienWalterI think that’s a bit harsh. It’s difficult (but necessary) to watch a people who were genuinely victimised murder children with indiscriminate bombs and call another people “animals”. That’s an insult to the animal kingdom they refer to in my view. I’d rather be any other species of animal than be part of the wretched human animal family who murders and mains for fun. I wonder what SL would make of the Gaza situation? It’s liberalism that created modernity. And from liberalism comes the different form of evil SL talks about, this includes Naziism and communism. If one identifies as a liberal (in the philosophical sense), one has a lot to reckon with. I had to walk away as I could see where it would lead humanity and I was going to have no part in it.
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254 3 ай бұрын
Well., congratulations! You've certainly summed up Kafkaesque absurdity in this mass of incomprehensible gobbledegook!
@Amadeus451
@Amadeus451 11 күн бұрын
Solaris is great, but he should've kept Ursula's name out of his mouth. I don't know how you read The Dispossessed or Left Hand of Darkness and not come away changed or deeply insightful of your own moral limitations-- even some 50 years after publication
@moisesrodriguez7650
@moisesrodriguez7650 3 ай бұрын
Uh. I wonder what would Lem say about more recent holocaust, say in Palestine
@coldwater5707
@coldwater5707 Ай бұрын
You are a strange bird. Your humor is subtle and dry. It is very Germanic. Your Communist takes give it an East German flair.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 12 күн бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of Mr Walter. But it's impressive to see these thoughtful essays on KZfaq.
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254
@christopheraliaga-kelly6254 3 ай бұрын
The points made here are brutally illustrated by: The Baader-Enslin terrorists professing to hate their elders as Nazis, yet separating Jewish and Israeli passengers from others during the hijackers' sojourn at Entebbe like the Nazis did. Then there is the fact that the Hamas butchers' atrocities on October 7th 2024 led to an widespread outburst of antisemitism rather than sympathy for Jews! And Hamas uses the "Protocols of Zion" in its' "Charter", showing it is not so much anti-Israeli as anti-Jewish. As is its' paymaster Iran, that denies the Shoah!!
@donaldkelly3983
@donaldkelly3983 9 күн бұрын
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