Dan and Kenji Use MSG to Make Fried Rice, Chili Crisp, and a Dirty Martini | What's Eating Dan?
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Күн бұрынYou've probably heard a lot about umami by now, but you might not realize just how many ingredients are packed with this distinctive taste and why they're so useful in a wide variety of recipes. Kenji, esteemed author of The Food Lab and The Wok, joins Dan to chat about MSG and other sources of umami.
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@dxingchenify 2 жыл бұрын
I have friends who swore they are allergic to MSG but have no problem gulfing down a bag of potato chips that has MSG as an ingredient.
@Piasays 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. I had a friend that couldnt eat a lot of stuff because she is allergic to msg. It gave her seizures. I remember she got out of having to choose a meal plan in college because she couldnt eat any of the food.
@fluffycritter 2 жыл бұрын
There are definitely a lot of people who have fake MSG sensitivities but there are also definitely real MSG sensitivities and it's unfortunate that the discourse around it has become so politicized and permanently damaged by some unfortunate discourse that started in the 70s when one person called it "Chinese restaurant syndrome." For me, highly-concentrated MSG affects me very differently than the glutamates that naturally occur in all of the "gotcha" foods like tomatoes and parmesan, and the MSG-heavy snack foods give me horrible headaches that don't happen even with very thick mushroom broth. It was actually noticing the difference between how I handled flavored and unflavored corn chips that clued me into having a problem. It might just be a matter of concentration, or it might be a matter of other chemicals coming along with it (such as having too much salt or some of those other nucleotides Dan mentioned in the intro), but in my experience it's best for me to avoid things that list MSG on their ingredients.
@Piasays 2 жыл бұрын
@@fluffycritter aaw man thank you for sharing. Im glad you figured out your sensitivity so now you know to avoid certain things. “Chinese restaurant syndrome” is effed up 🙄
@BooBaddyBig 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably a histamine reaction. Lots of high MSG foods are fermented, and fermentation creates histamine. Potato chips aren't fermented, neither are tomatoes.
@fluffycritter 2 жыл бұрын
@@BooBaddyBig I get histamine reactions to a lot of foods but the MSG reaction is pretty different. But the fermentation aspect might still be a glance in the right direction for figuring it out.
@Leg0z 2 жыл бұрын
My family often asks me why my cooking is so good. I tell them it's because I cook with love. But it's really because I have a giant bottle of MSG and I put it on literally everything I cook when no one is looking.
@hurgcat 2 жыл бұрын
it is the secret weapon!
@Ninjalectual 2 жыл бұрын
You should probably share, I hate cooks who keep secrets!
@BooBaddyBig 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, you're not lying, you love MSG.
@Lvl69Dad 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@themeaningoflifeexpert Жыл бұрын
12 WAYS MSG DESTROYS THE BODY --- kzfaq.infooEzHLxkkHh8?feature=share
@sandraseldon6734 2 жыл бұрын
My dad used msg as a flavor enhancement in the 70’s and he also introduced us to prolific use of garlic. To say he was ahead of the times is an understatement. He was a home chef and we were recipients of his interest and talent. MSG got such negative press so I am pleased to see it making a comeback. Excellent video.
@lookirl Ай бұрын
My dad was a home cook as well! I’ve not come across anyone else who said that before, I got to enjoy my 70’s, 80’s and most of my 90’s with him, and excellent food.
@Jacksirrom Жыл бұрын
My late, great high school chemistry teacher was a former Frito Lay food scientist in Texas. He said his favorite Dorito was the unseasoned ones only available to workers. RIP Bob White!
@Furluge 10 ай бұрын
... So he liked tortilla chips?
@mastod0n1 2 жыл бұрын
I love when Kenji releases a book because that means he's going to be doing the rounds on my favorite cooking channels on KZfaq to promote it. Wish he'd do more crossovers when he's not in the middle of a promotion cycle but I'll take what I can get lol
@sfhayesvalley 2 жыл бұрын
Kenji and Dan are the best food pairing since peanut butter and jelly! So cool to see them together.
@dougwhitmoyer9863 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to recommend a peanut butter and chili crisp sandwich thought this seemed an appropriate place to leave it.
@priestbyname 2 жыл бұрын
You’re both right!
@SansBalance 2 жыл бұрын
Not “konbu and katsuobushi“? I would think that’s a more relevant pairing here. 😛
@annieclaire2348 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts too! These two are fantastic and I'd love to see them do this again lots of times!
@clhughes1000 2 жыл бұрын
Chili crisp over GOOD fresh peaches is next level, my dad goes through a jar a month eating this in the summer. In the summer, I'll combine cold udon noodles, poached chicken, shredded fresh veggies(carrot, zuchinni, squash, etc), and sliced peaches, then toss with chili crisp and sesame oil, then sesame seeds over the top. Soooo good and refreshing.
@shanek2285 2 жыл бұрын
I love peaches with tomatoes cheese and olive oil. Sorta similar but i will definitely have to try those ideas that noodle dish sounds amazing thanks for the recipe
@thatsclassicher1149 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds so good
@Hermaniac8 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds fuckin banging
@mastod0n1 Жыл бұрын
That sounds kinda like one of my favorite summer snacks of Tajín seasoning sprinkled over pineapple or mango.
@goudagirl6095 Жыл бұрын
funny I put SALT on peaches, apples and watermelon, so it's probably close to the same "umami" type of thing.
@phoebejones4705 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with MSG is people tend to over use it to replace the lack of quality ingredients. As you put it, it enhance not replace. Very fair judgement.
@passiveaggressive6175 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss KLA’s home cook vlogs during Covid (especially the late night snacks). It’s like we were all in it together😂😭❤️🙏
@crestonediamond 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@chrisgordon9829 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!!!
@SansBalance 2 жыл бұрын
But COVID ain’t over, yet…
@CPUGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah really sad his channel slowed down so much
@palmer1290 2 жыл бұрын
He just posted a new one!! He must have seen your comment!
@drrjackson 2 жыл бұрын
This one of the best videos Dan has done! The right side of the chart he showed could also have included nutritional yeast, which is PACKED with nucleotides. Please, everyone, try making a Caesar dressing with both parm and "nootch." You'll never leave either out again. You can even ditch the egg if you'd like, because the yeast does some thickening.
@zacablaster 2 жыл бұрын
Nutritional yeast is basically canned cheese flavor dust and it's great
@bflogal18 2 жыл бұрын
I add nutritional yeast to my homemade vegetable stock. It’s the base to many of my recipes and would not be the same without the nootch.
@daala6698 Жыл бұрын
Yes oc. I learned about nut.yeast (that was so confusing because there are no nuts) back in Tennessee at a place called "The Farm" in Summertown Tennessee. They were and are "strict vegetarians", now called vegan. There is a GREAT cookbook called "The Farm Vegetarian Cookbook" that is unique in the early teaching of how to make chewey gluten steaks, called saitan, and nut.yeast Cheezy Sauce. Great stories in it about Uncle Bill too.
@acon_young_weezy 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t say it here, but love kenjis theory that words are meant for communication. When he says stir-frying should really be toss-frying kinda blew my mind lol. Because yeah I don’t really stir it, I toss it.
@erikfreitas9288 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing episode! I learned so much! That fried rice looks sooooo good!
@johnsanchez9580 2 жыл бұрын
really cool seeing kenji explain the motions behind the toss in the stir fry
@SL-vs7fs 2 жыл бұрын
The MSG sensitivity, when it’s psychological, reminds me of Chuck’s illness in Better Call Saul. It’s unreal how powerful the mind is in creating delusions.
@aaron74 2 жыл бұрын
The best Dan episode so far. Jam packed with interesting information!
@kevinparcher8514 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding episode! Thank you!
@suyashpingle 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow. What an episode. Loved it. Dan and Kenji together talking about the magic powder.Yes please
@maggotbitch 2 жыл бұрын
Magic powder 😂
@lilliatha4053 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty Martinis? I have a whole new level of respect for you. That was my specialty when I worked in restaurants and bars. Its a rare group who love a Dirty Martini.
@bbrown333 Жыл бұрын
Well, include me! I love them!
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see a new episode of ‘What’s Eating Dan?’ 👏🏽
@whatsupdate 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is by far my favorite food nerd. Kenji is probably second.
@ssiowi Жыл бұрын
loved everything; especially the riemann hypothesis chat on proportions. great fun Gents; thank-you both.
@BraxtonHoward 2 жыл бұрын
As a data nerd this is the best collaboration I've seen.
@barbararoyal6139 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching you both cooking and explaining. Thank you 🕊
@markust8904 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great and enjoyable episode. Kenji has so many insights, and it was great to see you use olive brine for your martini. I use it in a clamato ceaser drink. and the chili crisp i will be trying that out with ice cream. Well done!!
@akuro6470 Жыл бұрын
It's funny to see that even Dan becomes starstruck in the presence of Kenji
@josephcretini2476 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who absorbs a ton of food KZfaq, I thoroughly enjoyed this and honestly think it was of my favorite videos I've seen in weeks. Subscription earned!
@a3yeung 6 ай бұрын
I love Dan so much! thx for all these vids!
@anthonygardner400 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating video. Just love you, Dan!
@ginnyherman4430 2 жыл бұрын
Dan! Kenji! • I made the ginger frozen yogurt (fermented 24 hrs | strained for 6) and am totally making chili crisp & I'll live in bathtub forever with it! • I also made a sweet cream ice cream that I topped with parm, olive oil & big ole flaky salt : will add a bit o msg next time. Y'all are thee best. Keep it up!
@koreyb 2 жыл бұрын
Marmite and worcestershire sauce are what I use to add a huge amount of flavor to savory foods. They key is to not add too much. A teaspoon of each is plenty.
@lindacoffin5110 2 жыл бұрын
Dan and Kenji! Great combo!
@Whatisthis154 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thanks so much
@Rdasboss 2 жыл бұрын
Full circle, im glad this collaboration can happen
@kristahanley6582 2 жыл бұрын
Chili crisp and vanilla ice cream is amazing!! I love your videos Dan!
@annieclaire2348 Жыл бұрын
Yay! Two of my very favourite science foodies together on one video!!!!! What could be better! Please do this again soon!!!
@philipw5669 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Thank you!
@dblcrwnd 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing episdoe Dan!!! Gonna try the chili crisp ice cream tonight!
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating to see Dan’s nerdiness ending at Maths Problems 😂
@calebkent2737 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I'm a scientist that can't talk Star Wars with my coworkers
@maggotbitch 2 жыл бұрын
He's seriously so geeky it's hott AF
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebkent2737 That seems both ironic and plausible 😂
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
@@maggotbitch I second this motion.
@fluffigverbimmelt 2 жыл бұрын
All while disregarding the chemistry problem at hand (maybe I missed it, though). I thought they wanted to control for sodium. So you would need to know the 'sodium to rest' weight ratio in MSG to find out how much salt to add after fixing the amount of MSG
@recipeshubbyjagruti704 2 жыл бұрын
Chili crisp looks so yummy , Thank you so much for sharing such as wonderful recipe.
@Ryan-iv8bx 2 жыл бұрын
many take-outs from this vid. hats off. biggest for me was when kenji said 2% salt when u want them to buy more beers, meaning when u want it extra salty, and dan proceeded to add at least 50% more than super salty to the salt stock
@silvsilvsilv 2 жыл бұрын
12:30 And this is why I like Kenji more than 90% of other chefs.
@aaronbegg3827 2 жыл бұрын
That timestamp there shows that he is more than just an amazing chef, he is a damn good human being.
@paytonsmith2565 2 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating!
@johnallison4688 2 жыл бұрын
Wow,I can’t wait to try it !
@techercat3668 2 жыл бұрын
Another great episode! Brian David Gilbert's recipe for pepcorn uses Lao Gan Ma - I haven't tried it but it looks tasty. I love Piri Piri seasoning + cinnamon on vanilla ice cream, so I imagine this might be similar: the kick of the spice and the cool of the cream complement each other well.
@msmaupin 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Dan. Chili crisp will be my new go-to condiment.
@haebee 2 жыл бұрын
if salt is the treble, msg is the midrange and sweetness is the bass.
@alexPsanz 2 жыл бұрын
Salt is obviously the bass
@sdm031 2 жыл бұрын
mix engineer?
@sdm031 2 жыл бұрын
not a bad analogy
@gabrielab7648 11 ай бұрын
❤ wow! I just tasted the ice cream and boy did it fire up all my taste glands!🎉 ❤ thanks for this! 👍
@tomsaaristo6294 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for demystifying MSG via this discussion on umami
@lachina4151 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful, informative KZfaq video. Appreciate your videos. Great job!
@santolify 2 жыл бұрын
These two men rock my world!
@stevereavis1720 2 жыл бұрын
Hi-Great show! Can you tell us the brand of Wok Kenji is using? I know he said it was fairly new. Thanks!
@maxcourval2045 2 жыл бұрын
Love these crossover episodes!!!
@zekelucente9702 11 ай бұрын
I have some leftover pork tenderloin and now I’m going to make fried rice. Thanks Dan your videos are always so interesting and informative.
@K1k05 2 жыл бұрын
Ver good as always!!!
@dkatzism 2 жыл бұрын
Kenji's also a killer violinist! Nice to see him back at America's Test Kitchen.
@tiacho2893 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an old and remember when Kenji would enter from off camera for ATK recipe demos. And I'm Korean and handing your kid the violin at a young age was a big thing for Korean parents.
@Hannahorse715 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiacho2893 Kenji is not Korean he’s German American and Colombian
@patrickmurray4418 2 жыл бұрын
Not correct. J. Kenji Lopez-Alt is Japanese American. Feel free to look him up on Wikipedia . ❤️😬🤙🏾
@whatsupdate 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmurray4418 Kenji is Kenji. Period.
@jetfour07 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hannahorse715 his wife is Colombian, but not him.
@CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb 2 жыл бұрын
I love talking about MSG's evils while having some fries and ketchup or Doritos.
@tyghe_bright Жыл бұрын
I LOVE chili crisp on ice cream. Vanilla is fantastic, but it's also amazing on black sesame ice cream with toasted coconut.
@jeffreyschmidt3997 Жыл бұрын
Wow, sounds amazing. Can you buy this or do you have a link to recipe?
@tgirard123 Жыл бұрын
I need to become so good at Asian cooking that I need a 'Travel Wok'. GREAT episode btw :)
@dominicjohnson5350 2 жыл бұрын
The two of you had great chemistry (😏) would love to see more collabs in the future!
@SiouxTika Жыл бұрын
One of my “other mothers” as my mom always said was a Vietnamese woman whom I love dearly. She cooked with MSG out of a baby food jar and I love that.
@Denman58 2 жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding and informative video
@ericthompson3982 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was more fun than I was expecting.
@Rebecca-dm5ul Жыл бұрын
Omg love the chemistry aspect of this.
@ma1siesdaddy 2 жыл бұрын
15:29 if you want to cook with a wok at home remove that defuser plate first. Then you’ll get the concentrated flame Kenji is describing to use when wok cooking.
@KickyFut 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this!! I said (to myself) the very same thing. That round cap that difuses the flame into tiny flames in a circle can be easily removed... Which makes the fire bigger and centered on the bottom of the wok.
@Unforgettable0219 7 ай бұрын
I'm from the Philippines, been using MSG to whatever I and my family would cook. I'm now 68 and no major health issues.
@billburbank4314 9 ай бұрын
So informative...kenji is awesome...as is Dan.
@bierbrauer11 2 жыл бұрын
Kenji did a cooking demo at my company this past week and it was awesome! (Of course he was dealing with a very general audience) As much as that was awesome, this was super awesome - thanks for the details!
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Chilli Chicken was made at home recently so the synergy of soy sauce and chicken rocked my glutamate receptors.
@goudagirl6095 Жыл бұрын
Extra dirty, extra dry martini's are the BEST! Never had it with MSG but I'll try anything once!
@RahRan123 Жыл бұрын
this is why learning the metric system is important. for 500 ml like 1-1.5 gram of salt max! also salt varies in saltiness.
@kryki_cha6206 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this video a few days ago. Got my hands on a jar of chili crisp and promptly lost my mind over how delicious it is. Then..... the vanilla ice cream.... 🤯♥️😭.... I'll never be the same after this. Thank you!!
@marilynsnider8183 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Kenje. Very interesting video.
@annalake7019 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this episode since seeing Dan's Instagram story about the chili crisp on ice cream. I was so intrigued (and, admittedly, a little put off!) by the idea then, but after watching this, I would try it. This is one of my favorite episodes--it definitely ranks up there with the pancake episode. Love seeing Dan's unscripted interactions with his guests (even when it is trying to solve math!). Thank you, Dan!
@DanielJSouza 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Anna!
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
Quote of the Day: “Don’t call people liars.”
@kenmore01 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they are?
@EastSider48215 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenmore01: Not if they are talking about food preferences. As Kenji points out, the reason why someone has an aversion to a particular food is irrelevant. So maybe it’s not an allergy; maybe they simply don’t like it. That doesn’t matter. What matters serving people food they can eat and enjoy without having to justify their choice.
@owenkelso1 2 жыл бұрын
Chili Crisp is awesome on Hummus… there are Japanese versions that use sesame oil which really take things to another level 👍
@lorandoane118 11 ай бұрын
I love watching food scientists at work. Sure they call themselves Cooks or Chefs, but they are in fact flavor Scientists.
@wylyparis9646 2 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but thought I'd share. I keep a 32oz deli container full of what I call chef salt. Fist, you combine 25% by weight sodium inosinate and guanylate (I+G) with 75% by weight monosodium glutamate (GSM). Then this new mixture you combine 10% by weight with 90% by weight salt. The I+G significantly boost the umami effects of the MSG and having it premixed with kosher salt just makes for a coinvent and intuitive use. I use this salt on all savory applications.
@eriknaparstek3277 2 жыл бұрын
How can this wok be used on an induction cooktop as you mentioned? How is the round bottom stabilized on a flat cooktop?
@alexbasson Жыл бұрын
Just on a lark, last week I added a spoonful of chili crisp to some egg salad I was making for lunch and oh my goodness was it amazing.
@carykerber9996 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite episode. Kenji and Dan nailed it! Thanks for clarifying MSG is safe. I knew most of the snacks have Msg that's why its delicious! Great episode! 👍
@simonsavelyev7399 2 жыл бұрын
This is the collab I've been waiting for!!
@gitsini 2 жыл бұрын
This is so so good! Learned so much from it!
@anna4banana4 Жыл бұрын
Can you please post the full information on how to find the articles you show in the video? I am interested in reading the full text. Thank you.
@josephgaviota 2 жыл бұрын
2:54 As a kid, like 4 or 5, when something was more than delicious, I called it _TOO-LICIOUS!_ Maybe that's a word that would do?
@katiewray2525 Жыл бұрын
That is so cool! I love it!😊😊😊😊👍👍👍💓💓💓
@minhuang8848 2 жыл бұрын
Love a good testing session like this. Now try this: nicely boiled eggs paired with (ungodly amounts of) MSG. Eggs are already so luxurious, I think it is very nicely complemented by MSG in doses you would perceive as salty. Works for very few foods I feel like, but eggs are astonishing with MSG I find.
@janetmackinnon3411 Жыл бұрын
So interesting!
@Friedbrain11 2 жыл бұрын
That fried rice looks delicious!!
@DJ-wi9yk Жыл бұрын
The chicken soup tasting sooo reminded me of that episode of Ab Fab when Eddie and Patsy are at the wine tasting in France. 😂 so funny.
@TwinsenDude Жыл бұрын
Great episode as always Dan. What I want to know that no one seems to talk about is how to use the nucleotides more in cooking. Like with the Doritos, is there a powdered form of the inosinate and guanylate available for consumers that I could/should have on my counter just like my MSG that I could be adding? Or a perfect ratio they've figured out that I could mix up to have a seasoning salt with weighed out salt, MSG, disodium inosinate, and disodium guanylate? I would love to use something like this to be able to kick foods like fried rice up to another level of savoriness without having to add ingredients that have a lot of their own flavor like bonito flakes
@GuyMannick 2 жыл бұрын
Kenji's foodtube media tour has been awesome.
@daenas 2 жыл бұрын
I do call out people who say they can't eat MSG but yet use or eat food with "yeast extract"..hello...MSG! I use Laoganma on a lot of foods. I buy the ones with beans in it as well as with peanuts. The one with beans is slightly saltier than the other.
@SSuperC 2 жыл бұрын
OK that cut to get audio sync 10:54 was pretty sweet.
@guat-lianckreamer8233 Жыл бұрын
Try peanut butter (creamy or crunchy) & chili crisp on toast! Yum!
@marlenevega8522 Жыл бұрын
I love msg. I grew up cooking with it
@faithsrvtrip8768 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer Vlasic kosher dill pickle brine. For a hangover, I would save the stuff and leave it in the fridge. Perfect hangover cure in the morning. A few swigs and good to go!
@xnonsuchx 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they changed their brine recipe when they removed dyes. At least it doesn’t taste the same to me. It tastes like you mixed old Vlasic brine with Claussen pickle brine.
@AN-jw2oe Жыл бұрын
I would like to know where Kenji got his wok!! ❤️
@birdy1numnum 2 жыл бұрын
*I follow Kenji on Instagram and was surprised last week when in a discussion about what wouldn't he eat he wrote "I do not see anything wrong with eating dogs. Pigs are just as smart and emotional". I'm still thinking about that!!*
@DizzyBusy Жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but often people in the Americas and in Europe want to police what the rest of the world should be eating
@bluelilacfawn Жыл бұрын
kinda late to comment but i've always thought the same. i think if you're a meat eater (as am i), it's kind of horrible to decide an animal's fate of being killed and eaten based on whether or not you think it's smart enough. all animals evolve to live according to their needs, so holding it to a human standard is a bit odd. seems very sadistic to look at a chicken and go "you dont seem to be very emotional... so you'll be fine with being decapitated"
@sandrathimgan6546 2 жыл бұрын
We are trying the chili crisp on ice cream . . .oooooo, yes! thanks.
@seriouslyreally5413 2 жыл бұрын
No sooner than Dan says there's not many places you wouldn't put chili crisp, the first words that popped into my brain was " Ice Cream, you wouldn't put chili crisp on Ice Cream" as the most absurd combo to pop into MY mind and lo and behold, the next image to appear on the screen and the next words out of his mouth is Ice Cream!🙄
@dudleydeplorable5307 2 жыл бұрын
My Polish granny used MSG in many/most of her recipes. They don't taste right if the MSG is removed. Sister has old Polish cookbooks that specify MSG. Perhaps Polacks are immune... 🤣
@lNDlANSPlCE 2 жыл бұрын
24:54 I like how you’re not asking if we’re running to the store to buy chili crisp. You know we already have it :D
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