Dan Snow and Dan Jones Discuss 'The Coolest Man in Medieval History'

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History Hit

5 жыл бұрын

The Knight's Templar were a religious military order founded in 1119 and recognised by a papal bull in 1139. The order became one of the most powerful organisations in medieval Christendom, and a large supranational administrative network set up a complex financial system which was an early form of banking.
Here medieval historian Dan Jones takes Dan Snow through the Temple Church near Fleet Street in London, explaining how the order functioned and the involvement of one of medieval England's most famous knights.
They also agree that William Marshal, buried in Temple Church after joining the order on his deathbed, was probably the 'coolest man in medieval history'.
#DanJones #DanSnow #KnightsTemplar

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@andrewcbartlett
@andrewcbartlett 3 жыл бұрын
Templars, Hospitallers, The Teutonic Knights, Sword Brothers of Livonia, The Order of St. Lazarus, The Knights who say "Ni"
@paulh3935
@paulh3935 2 жыл бұрын
All big on the Prog Rock scene in the 70s.
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulh3935 I am sure I saw the 'Sword Brothers of Lavonia' the supporting local band 'Sweaty Betty'. in our Arts Centre once! the Tuetonic Knights were big on The Gay Scenes, and the Order of Lazarus just died, so sad. There was a brief revival, but it fizzled out and not much more was heard of them.
@Min61449
@Min61449 Жыл бұрын
That’s funny.. showing your age there. I wonder how many people got it. 😂😀
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 Жыл бұрын
@@Min61449 Not many. If they haven't seen it on Netflix or been told by a Minister nothing counts.
@TheBreechie
@TheBreechie Жыл бұрын
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 meow! Boomer says what?
@richardkrilljr.8711
@richardkrilljr.8711 2 жыл бұрын
I’d absolutely love to sit down and just listen to an endless conversation between these two brilliant guys.
@JointFive
@JointFive Жыл бұрын
Reciting the past does not take much, in as way of "brilliace". I do like many historians though, before I sleep
@nomagea2684
@nomagea2684 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@tigerfight85
@tigerfight85 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Dan Jones looks like a total lad but is a great historical writer
@ardenalexa94
@ardenalexa94 2 жыл бұрын
He is pretty cute. He doesn’t look like your stereotypical historian at all.
@TheKoolbraider
@TheKoolbraider 10 күн бұрын
His books are very well written and easy to read.
@mancunian4eva332
@mancunian4eva332 Жыл бұрын
Dan Jones books on the crusades are fascinating. He has the uncanny ability to be able to turn a very complicated history with many facets into an understandable narrative
@davidgiles5030
@davidgiles5030 2 жыл бұрын
I was at the Temple when it opened one day. I went inside and for five precious minutes I had it completely to myself. Very,very cool experience.
@frankb821
@frankb821 Жыл бұрын
That is truly awesome!
@NijimaSan
@NijimaSan 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid and getting into medieval history, the name that kept popping up and got my notice was William Marshall. He was an absolute badass for virtually his entire life.
@jarlborg1531
@jarlborg1531 2 жыл бұрын
After one tournament, William Marshall's helmet was so bashed up that the only way he could remove it was to put his head on an anvil while a blacksmith hammered it back into shape. How cool is that.
@kingmaker2865
@kingmaker2865 2 жыл бұрын
These guys need their own show... like battlefield Britain was with dan and his legendary dad. Going around England to castles.. and battlefields. It would be amazing. We are blessed with such a amazing history on this island... and these heroes bring it to the masses. They need a show. Road dripping about England... having a beer and a chin wag 👍. It would be a top seller !!!.
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 жыл бұрын
Road dripping! My mind is boggling. Does that involve tarmac? This is Dumb Down. Anyone who cites Dan Brown as a reference is in Poundshop History territory right there.
@Desmond17
@Desmond17 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Jones & Dan Snow together to talk history. We're lucky Dan Carlin wasn't there or the amount of Dans would have tear the fabric of space and time apart...
@HistoryHit
@HistoryHit 2 жыл бұрын
We'll have to try and make that happen one day! 😂
@Neenerella333
@Neenerella333 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHit You'll need a few hours.
@milosit
@milosit 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just comment on how tall Dan Snow must be? He towers over Jones. I'm 6ft and have stood next to and taken pictures with Dan Jones and I can see that he must have a good 3 inches in height over me.
@tygressblade
@tygressblade 2 жыл бұрын
Dan cubed.
@voiceofraisin3778
@voiceofraisin3778 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but for a 3rd Dan you get a brown belt, minor telekinesis and the ability to break bricks and boards. You need a 10th Dan to tear spacial reality.
@glenriches4779
@glenriches4779 2 жыл бұрын
I did a stained glass replacement effigy for William Marshall in a phonebox on the embankment near temple. His story really struck me.
@bladehoner3185
@bladehoner3185 Жыл бұрын
William Marshall is my 23 great grandfather and I'm reading a book about him right now.
@katescrimgeour3884
@katescrimgeour3884 2 жыл бұрын
I have one thing to say: More Dan Jones and Dan Snow conversations!
@peglegpeete9122
@peglegpeete9122 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There is never enough of either Dan's work available to us viewers in the USA.
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 2 жыл бұрын
Try on KZfaq there's a tonne
@galahaddayne
@galahaddayne 5 жыл бұрын
The legend himself Dan Jones and the greatest knight to have ever lived William the Marshal. Do I sense another book coming about William Marshal?
@thgentleman9210
@thgentleman9210 2 жыл бұрын
William de Marshall * Norman heritage..
@michaelmccomb2594
@michaelmccomb2594 2 жыл бұрын
@@thgentleman9210 doesn’t ‘de’ mean of, which would mean William was from ‘Marshal’. ‘Marshal’ however was not a geographical region, it was a leading role in the English government, hence the name ‘William the Marshal’, because he was the Marshal
@cleverusername9369
@cleverusername9369 2 жыл бұрын
@@thgentleman9210 Robert de Bruce= Robert the Bruce = Robert of House Bruce = Robert Bruce, it's all the same.
@Heisenberg882
@Heisenberg882 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest knight was chevalier de bayard
@michaelmccomb2594
@michaelmccomb2594 2 жыл бұрын
@@Heisenberg882 what makes you say that
@catherineloxton5727
@catherineloxton5727 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing Jones and Snow together as it is easy to get them mixed up. Snow is a very tall guy, which TV presenter, Jones, handles professionally enough on a one-to-one ... can't get enough of William Marshall's tales of chivalry, nor of his fairy-tale integration marrying Ireland ...
@bright9187
@bright9187 2 жыл бұрын
Dan snow is a bit more than a television presenter.
@Melanrick
@Melanrick 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, however the two of them together becomes Jon Snow and that makes them knowing nothing.
@janeoxley4829
@janeoxley4829 2 жыл бұрын
Love the history of England, especially medieval history.
@pyewackett5
@pyewackett5 2 жыл бұрын
Medieval art & imagination is simply sublime. The music is something else too. Highly recommend giving it a listen. It's otherworldly with knobs on
@malahammer
@malahammer 2 жыл бұрын
The Irish (for 800 years) didn't.....neither did the Scots 👍🏼
@alleynealisleem9777
@alleynealisleem9777 2 жыл бұрын
Me Too! English History Rocks!!!🥰⛪🇬🇧💖💕
@mijanhoque1740
@mijanhoque1740 2 жыл бұрын
@@malahammer Relationships probably would have been better under a Anglo-Saxon king than a Norman king
@Karl_with_a_K
@Karl_with_a_K Жыл бұрын
@@malahammer Paul, the Anglo-Normans became "more Irish than the Irish themselves".
@LilianaVelascoAriza
@LilianaVelascoAriza 4 жыл бұрын
After watching endless history clips I've come to be Dan's biggest fan! He makes everything so easy to understand, interesting, detailed enough to keep me at least glued to all his series! Thank you!
@sidp5381
@sidp5381 4 жыл бұрын
Liliana V.A. Hough definitely my favorite historian
@rogerlacaille3148
@rogerlacaille3148 2 жыл бұрын
I have all of his books...they're awesome! He's Brilliant!
@ellenmarch3095
@ellenmarch3095 2 жыл бұрын
Which one?? 🤣🤣
@rogerlacaille3148
@rogerlacaille3148 2 жыл бұрын
@Ellen March ..😂😂😂 Dan Jones lol
@AllThatRemainsTDH
@AllThatRemainsTDH Жыл бұрын
Secrets of British Castles is soooo good
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 2 жыл бұрын
I used to love Simon Templar. He was a saint.
@andrewdowns3403
@andrewdowns3403 2 жыл бұрын
Roger that
@taterkaze9428
@taterkaze9428 2 жыл бұрын
Emma Peel.
@Andaer11
@Andaer11 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me happy, the two of you working together
@victoriawhite3662
@victoriawhite3662 4 жыл бұрын
I adore Dan Jones!
@jsieverink8409
@jsieverink8409 2 жыл бұрын
Popped up on my radar, thought it could only, possibly be about William Marshall, 1st Earl of Pembroke, and I am not disappointed, sirs.
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd Жыл бұрын
Nice one Dan Snow, good Templer action
@jonathangoll2918
@jonathangoll2918 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of William Marshal. Not only was he honourable and loyal, but he is the real author of our liberties. When King John signed Magna Carta in June 1215, he hadn't the slightest inclination to abide by it; he knew his law well, and he knew he could always discount it, as "signed under duress". When King John died in October 1216, he willed that William Marshal - just about the most honest man he knew - should run the country on behalf of his 9-year old son, Henry III. William did so very successfully, and one of his first acts - I think as early as the November - was to re-issue Magna Carta. This and subsequent reissues ensured that Magna Carta was enshrined in our law.
@colin.d
@colin.d 2 жыл бұрын
Two Dan's is better than one!
@vickywitton1008
@vickywitton1008 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE William Marshall too!
@Luna.3.3.3
@Luna.3.3.3 7 ай бұрын
Love these two historians together! This was four years ago - that's too long without a repeat collaboration. Encore please! 😊 Dan Jones' 'Britain's Bloody Crown', 'Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty' - absolutely _Superb!!_ They play out like a great long movie to me. I've watched both several times. I've watched _All_ his documentaries, more than once. Lol
@heathersmith8549
@heathersmith8549 2 жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite Dan’s!!!!
@ageingviking5587
@ageingviking5587 7 ай бұрын
Dan and Dan are my two favorite historians .
@janetwebster5099
@janetwebster5099 2 жыл бұрын
So great to see them together! :)
@milosit
@milosit 2 жыл бұрын
Only one man had the nerve and ability to unseat Richard the Lionheart from his destrier in combat and that was William the Marshall. Trained for decades in France and fought in numerous tournaments, The Marshall was the fighting man's fighting man.
@shazanata
@shazanata Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and beautiful church. Enjoyed my visit.
@Karl_with_a_K
@Karl_with_a_K Жыл бұрын
William Marshall considered the greatest Knight, founded the town of Newross, Co. Wexford a major medieval trading hub for South East Ireland. Built Hook Lighthouse the oldest fully entact functioning lighthouse in the world on the Hook peninsula. The town of Temple, and multiple Norman ruins on the peninsula. Fascinating.
@belfastlad55
@belfastlad55 Жыл бұрын
Amazing history
@TheKoolbraider
@TheKoolbraider 10 күн бұрын
Marshall had one quality most others lacked: loyalty. He was truly an amazing man.
@aprilcoursey4533
@aprilcoursey4533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I had never heard of him.
@kevinstreet5709
@kevinstreet5709 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thank you
@patrickpaganini
@patrickpaganini 2 жыл бұрын
At the end "we can practise later" lol good delivery.
@along9971
@along9971 7 ай бұрын
My two favorite Dans! These guys are so cool
@starrfam
@starrfam 3 жыл бұрын
As a many greats granddaughter of William Marshal through the Marshal's daughter Eva, it was interesting, even if brief, to hear why the Marshal waited to become a Templar on his death bed. I had wondered about it and now I know. Thank you, Mr Jones.
@lynneturner553
@lynneturner553 3 жыл бұрын
Read Templer Silks by Elizabeth Chadwick. She wrote 3 books about him as novels but completely true to facts.It explains why he waited until his deathbed to convert.Stay well everyone.Love from New Zealand.
@rayleekain3921
@rayleekain3921 2 жыл бұрын
I too am descended from William Marshal through two daughters Isobel and Eva. Have read a few books about him. Such an interesting man. Would have loved to have known him. Must go to the Templar church next time I'm in London if I'm lucky enough to travel again from Australia.
@johnhamilton4677
@johnhamilton4677 Жыл бұрын
Another descendant here.
@foots-qt4pk
@foots-qt4pk Жыл бұрын
I'm also a granddaughter through his daughters Eva, Maud, Sybil, and Isabel, but I'm also a granddaughter of the Plantagenet Kings and Simon de Montfort among many others but William is my favorite. If you love William as much as I do you have to get a copy of the biography his son William had written about his life , "The History of William Marshall". He did indeed take his Templar vows on his deathbed, and because one of the vows was chastity, he gave his wife one last kiss before he made his vow.
@jenathome575
@jenathome575 Жыл бұрын
Another descendant of William and Plantagenets here too
@bindon4
@bindon4 2 жыл бұрын
I could marry both Dans and live happily ever after listening to them discussing history!....
@kiobio7311
@kiobio7311 2 жыл бұрын
Its so amazing to see history being celebrated instead of viewed through the lense of new times Thank you guys so much for these kind of videos
@CM-ol5qj
@CM-ol5qj 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@RobertLidstroem
@RobertLidstroem 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! William Marshall! I was thinking that when I saw the headline! I need a good movie avout him! And a 1 hour wellmade documentary about him!
@leonstevens1382
@leonstevens1382 2 жыл бұрын
Two scholarly hot guys!
@pinaytravelsinuk5852
@pinaytravelsinuk5852 2 жыл бұрын
More please ♥️
@zactorbeam3809
@zactorbeam3809 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible literally
@Anonymouse85
@Anonymouse85 7 ай бұрын
The Dans are such a cool couple of history dudes
@EMMYK1916
@EMMYK1916 2 жыл бұрын
My local pub here in Ireland is called the Knights Templar.
@janeoxley4829
@janeoxley4829 2 жыл бұрын
Henry II rule really interesting, father to King Richard the Lionheart and King John, William Marshall served as their knight to all these three Kings.
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 2 жыл бұрын
And briefly to the infant Henry III!
@archivesoffantasy5560
@archivesoffantasy5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@Conorp77 yes, stopping the french Louis VIII taking over England at age 72 battle of Lincoln remarkable
@CompelledUsername
@CompelledUsername 2 жыл бұрын
“My life, when it is written, will read better than it lived. Henry Fitz-Empress, first Plantagenet, a king at twenty-one, the ablest soldier of an able time. He led men well, he cared for justice when he could and ruled, for thirty years, a state as great as Charlemagne's.” Such an underrated King.
@majorblue777
@majorblue777 2 жыл бұрын
As a descendant of Henry Billingsley, Lord Mayor of London and first translator of Eulicid into english, I am mesmerized by English history. Just found this channel and am loving it fully! Thanks to the Dan's!!!
@tolvaer
@tolvaer 2 жыл бұрын
thank you very much gents
@TheStalec
@TheStalec 2 жыл бұрын
Who wouldn’t love this crossover?
@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278
@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278 Жыл бұрын
The best crossover in history
@Nadamos
@Nadamos 2 жыл бұрын
They should have a show called "Historical Dans" about the best pranks in history
@Amc933
@Amc933 Жыл бұрын
I love that you mentioned the difficulty in pronouncing "Hospitaller"... I thought I was the only one! (it is easier to pronounce it in French!)
@smackedinthejaw
@smackedinthejaw 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't imagine that Dan Jones had tattoo's down both arms and on his chest.
@rinalore
@rinalore 3 жыл бұрын
"Never judge a book by it's cover." 🇨🇦✌🏻❤️
@jt0094
@jt0094 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’d be even more surprised by his preferred choice of music! And outerwear attire, very rock n roll ;)
@cassiedelon743
@cassiedelon743 2 жыл бұрын
@@jt0094 And his wife Jo is very cool!!
@eztyson
@eztyson 2 жыл бұрын
@@rinalore never judge a book by its sleeve 😬😂
@JCZARK2
@JCZARK2 2 жыл бұрын
Thought for sure Dan Jones was an old crusty Englishman
@colinwilson5635
@colinwilson5635 Жыл бұрын
I agree William Marshal! Thought this was going to be about Edward III.
@SuperNictastic
@SuperNictastic Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Dan Jones is not some dusty old history professor type. He looks like your mate down the pub.
@josephinemiller68
@josephinemiller68 3 ай бұрын
How is this really funny to me? The coolest man cracked me up. Amazing that they are standing right next to these legends.
@madMARTYNmarsh1981
@madMARTYNmarsh1981 Жыл бұрын
I named my son after William Marshal, although I reversed the names. It annoys me when people ask if I named my son after Marshall Mathers!
@koenmeier8553
@koenmeier8553 4 жыл бұрын
when you get surprised by a game reference from an historian.
@bx8321
@bx8321 16 күн бұрын
Yeay, History Chad talk!
@JohnnyWishbone85
@JohnnyWishbone85 Жыл бұрын
6:00 - As I understand it, in northeast Europe, like Poland, the Baltic nations, and western Russia, the Teutonic Knights are still invoked to scare little kids into behaving themselves.
@thetoymanator7723
@thetoymanator7723 Жыл бұрын
Check out a movie called "Ironclad". I'm pretty sure William Marshal as a Knight's Templar is a character. Not sure how historically accurate it is, but a good watch.
@gillieb13
@gillieb13 4 жыл бұрын
I can't get over how tall D. Snow is.
@paulkirton8945
@paulkirton8945 2 жыл бұрын
6ft 6
@gillieb13
@gillieb13 11 ай бұрын
​@Paul Kirton I know. I passed him at St. Pancras once. He towered over me at 5'10".
@jaymarshall845
@jaymarshall845 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's middle name is William, this is pretty fun 😅
@SecretSquirrelFun
@SecretSquirrelFun Жыл бұрын
Ha ha @ 5:00 “Count me in for all of that....now that I’m dying” Ah Dan, that was really funny.
@yaboyed5779
@yaboyed5779 3 жыл бұрын
Two legends😍✊🏾😩😍✊🏾😩
@BretCoreysFilms
@BretCoreysFilms Жыл бұрын
What really cool about William Marshall is the he is George Washington's ancestor of which they both developed the English and American Declaration of Independence.
@kiltedjohn1000
@kiltedjohn1000 3 ай бұрын
You two could make a tv program called The Two Dans
@wmr9019
@wmr9019 Ай бұрын
Coolest dude WM is my 26th GGF ❤❤ my most favourite ancestor🎉
@marionbanks-wilkinson8368
@marionbanks-wilkinson8368 2 жыл бұрын
I am descended from William the Marshal among others including Robert the Bruce
@ewanhopper4275
@ewanhopper4275 Жыл бұрын
When I clicked on this video I said out loud I bet it’s William the marshall I was not disappointed
@kingston4313
@kingston4313 8 ай бұрын
I wanna see william marshall. He was mentioned a lot on the Plantagenet podcast
@wallyjansen898
@wallyjansen898 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Chadwick has written about William Marshall. A fairly new book about Marshall in Jeruzalem and what he did there. Fiction of course but very readable. It's called Templars Silk.
@karenwilkinson5923
@karenwilkinson5923 Жыл бұрын
I’ve read her books about William the Marshal and the tale about him purchasing and then keeping hidden the length of plain white silk is a most enjoyable read and likely holds a kernel of truth. His interaction with his brothers (still fiction) but also likely and very touching. He was a very great man, the fact that he holds such fascination 800years later is a testament to that.
@jorgem.1564
@jorgem.1564 2 жыл бұрын
My vote. William Marshal and El Cid. Can't pick between them.
@waynecurie71
@waynecurie71 2 жыл бұрын
Snow and Jones go together like Morecombe and Wise..... Smith and Jones
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 жыл бұрын
other notable jokers. I got it.
@scottfoster3548
@scottfoster3548 2 жыл бұрын
OH OH I am conjuring a vision where Dan and Dan follow history OR even go to pre-history sites like a LIKE a "Two Greedy Italians buddy show through history....
@TomOkkaTom
@TomOkkaTom 2 жыл бұрын
The most fascinating person of the period is definitely stupor mundi, the astonishment of the world, Frederick II
@lawrencegt2229
@lawrencegt2229 10 ай бұрын
Which came first - the round temples of the Templar or the legend of Arthur & his round table?
@bigbasil1908
@bigbasil1908 2 жыл бұрын
A Rotunda. Reminiscent of a stone circle or a roundhouse (not particularly the one in Dagenham)
@dashinvaine
@dashinvaine Жыл бұрын
The oblong chancel was redone during the reign of Henry III, who originally intended to be buried there, though he ultimately decided to be buried in Westminster Abbey. I believe there was an earlier, slightly smaller chancel on the site, so the church was always keyhole shaped, and it would never have been just the round bit.
@booboodafoo3247
@booboodafoo3247 2 жыл бұрын
We could use another crusade now.
@TheVJTiticaca
@TheVJTiticaca 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see them do togehter an hours long docu serie about experiencing the History of bathing, like the history of the turkisch bath, bathing like Cleo, the history of sauna and so on.
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule Жыл бұрын
NOW, mes amis, I I needs study William The Marshal !
@teresabetancourt4734
@teresabetancourt4734 Ай бұрын
Dan Jones got a real makeover! He looks much hotter!!!
@Philipp.of.Swabia
@Philipp.of.Swabia 2 жыл бұрын
He was quite cool, but personally I can think of at least 3 other people that are just as cool as him.
@chris123chris82
@chris123chris82 Жыл бұрын
Where does somebody begin to learn all this?
@brandonhernandez371
@brandonhernandez371 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Snow lord of Winterfell and warden of the North
@bobbah676
@bobbah676 Жыл бұрын
How about El Cid ? Seems like a pretty cool dude aswell.
@nicolaevarga5753
@nicolaevarga5753 2 жыл бұрын
👍🙏
@azariahisrael5632
@azariahisrael5632 Жыл бұрын
I'm a decendant of William Marshall.
@garstanforddasilva9663
@garstanforddasilva9663 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but wasn’t Dan Jones pointing to the wrong Marshal figure?
@vincentheartland2088
@vincentheartland2088 4 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Both of them together :D !!!! Look at these babes
@xyz987123abc
@xyz987123abc 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thank goodness most of them preferred other men, I believe.
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 жыл бұрын
Gross! You go for the nerdy pen pusher desperately trying to be hip on Saturdays type then?
@Tyler.i.81
@Tyler.i.81 5 жыл бұрын
The jumper has shanking a washing machine I'm guessing
@Gemmagalgani99
@Gemmagalgani99 2 жыл бұрын
The Templars spent a lot of time in prayer and religious activities- people like to warp history to meet modern secular standards…
@sanderson9338
@sanderson9338 Жыл бұрын
Charlemange says sshhh hold my beer
@yxx_chris_xxy
@yxx_chris_xxy 6 ай бұрын
Damn, I always thought Dan Snow and Dan Jones were the same person. If they aren't standing next to each other, they look the same...
@nicksmith9371
@nicksmith9371 2 жыл бұрын
History hit. Mark Felton, David Starkey all on youtube is a good thing. Our history is being lost to the detriment of our culture and we are breeding people making up their own history to fix a narrative and distorting what has come before. Great to see interesting series like this finding a new audience online.
@philroberts7238
@philroberts7238 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is itself a distortion of the greatest magnitude. It seems to me you have an agenda: to retain the myth and ignore the history. Go and fight your culture wars if you want to, but ultimately objective scholarship will prevail over the comfortable nationalistic grandstanding which I suspect you would prefer to hear. History is not, or should not, be reduced to a series of patriotic platitudes.
@philroberts7238
@philroberts7238 2 жыл бұрын
Incidentally, I enjoyed this clip as much as you apparently did - so you see, not everything is as black and white as you seem to suggest.
@nicksmith9371
@nicksmith9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@philroberts7238 Well hello Mr angry. Where have I said I would like a jingoistic view of history to prevail as opposed to a balanced account of our history. schools, colleges, mainstream media and universities are not presenting a balanced view it is overtly negative and in no way representative of history and most certainly not "nationalistic grandstanding". Its funny how you accuse me of having an agenda when I merely commented that history is being lost and its good we can watch videos like this to keep it alive. You must be very intelligent boarding on psychic to work out all of my thoughts on a subject from one comment or perhaps with all your "suspicions" they are in fact crafted from a mind who wants it desperately to fit a narrative to serve your agenda. Never once did I preach myths over fact, though I do believe the good elements of our history ( and no matter what people say there are plenty) are being ignored. Ask 1000 people who William the Marshal was and id be amazed if 1% actually knew, despite his importance to our past. Hell, most secondary school children struggle to accurately place the start of the second world war and who Churchill was and yet they believe he was a racist because tick tock said so. Purely out of interest I once asked 10 people when WW2 finished and there was 1 answer of 1947 and that was the closest. Non could say when it started. History is full of subtle nuances that require context to be taken into account and sadly, no matter anyone's agendas it is a skill that is being lost.
@philroberts7238
@philroberts7238 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nicksmith9371 Well, yes, of course, history is all a matter of balance and nuance. History is a matter of collecting data and then presenting it as a coherent narrative, and that must always be a matter of interpretation. Thus far, I imagine, we might be in furious agreement. We might differ in that interpretation, however, and I might take issue with you over this "overtly negative" view you accuse all our institutions are taking. Incidentally, I'd be very surprised if any secondary school child who was unable to place the Second World War in its time could care less about Churchill one way or the other, regardless of what some TikTok user might have to say about him. Let's look at Churchill, seeing that you've brought him up. He was undoubtedly an effective and charismatic wartime leader and for that he must be revered. But he was a very complex character and certainly no saint. Among other things, he was an out and out racist, in common with many of his era - though certainly not all of his contemporaries. You don't need to go TikTok for verification of this: WSC himself provides us with all the evidence we need. It may be embarrassing for us to admit that some of our heroes may be slightly tarnished when looked at from a more modern perspective, but that's no reason why unpleasant truths should not be acknowledged. That is not the same as "ignoring" all the good bits and I very much doubt that that is the case, out in the field. "Our history is being lost to the detriment of our culture and we are breeding people making up their own history to fix a narrative and distorting what has come before." Yes, I am a bit angry about that sentence, come to think of it, because I think it is a slur on today's historians, amateur and professional, academics and teachers alike. The "truth" is far more balanced and far more nuanced than that. Being interested in characters such as William the Marshall doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking at ALL aspects of our country's history - the "good" elements, the "bad" elements, and all those elements in between. So, no, I don't flatter myself as a psychic when I say that I think I got your measure as someone who had swallowed the whole "culture war on woke" thing hook, line and sinker. It's all about the evidence, sir: evidence, not anecdote! Meanwhile, carry on enjoying this excellent series. As shall I.
@hogwashmcturnip8930
@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 жыл бұрын
Phil Roberts did the Prozac work? I do hope so. By the way this is history for the cheap seats and very subjective . Click bait Also Nick did not accuse you of anything! But as a rather uninformed childish, unfocused incoherent rant ,that must be worth the 'Booker Prize' of you tube! Well done!
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 2 жыл бұрын
"We can practice later."
@mattmacaulay2900
@mattmacaulay2900 5 жыл бұрын
Join me... DAN JONES
@brockpodgurski6144
@brockpodgurski6144 2 ай бұрын
No way this conversation only lasted 7 minutes.
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