+Simran Whitham "it loves you too..." was my favorite one. i usually don't like cole cause of the forced alliteration, but i loved having him in JoH

Lol yeah 🤣

the more i hear about them the more i want them, and i don’t even fully know what they are

Even Solas loves the frilly cakes. Bless.

@@piratekingomega3292 think petit fours

his “it’s nice to be remembered :D” comment when the hiker prayed to spirits made me smile.

*etheric feedback

I think it's aetheric feedback.

@@gzapray7203 My potato is telling me it’s actually Aer or Air. I forget which is the invisible, magical life producing substance though. I don’t have enough Chakra for this. Better go eat a Senzu bean and restore my Ki.

And Cole is still way too adorable for this cruel world.

Solas once call an Avvar Fereldan. Yes yes, grandpa. You need to adjust again after a looooonnng nap.

I don’t think he was trying to overcomplicate it. It’s showing that even Solas, someone who is deeply understanding of the plight and needs of spirits recognizes the *danger* in letting a LITERAL SPIRIT OF BATTLE take hold of you. Solas likely did the same with a spirit of Wisdom in his youth, becoming a Wisdom Abomination for Mythal and becoming connected to Fen’Harel. So he’s hardly one to judge, but battle *always* comes with risks and costs.

+InvincibleRodent I suppose Puddle-Maker has interesting connotations.

or sera I made the mistake of taking them both on this DLC

Or Vivienne

You cant blain him when the inquisitor is inviting abominations into the inquisiton

Bring him, Sera, and Vivienne. It's fun. XD

​@@IHeartGameplayEverything the Avvar practice with spirits proves we can't take what the Chantry say about abominations for granted. DAI out of every game showed us the DA lore is more than what's been told to us by one faction or another

Sassy Cole is best boy 🤣❤️

@@PlanetLovingMom during the after game party he can even tell a joke. better show up as inkys adopted child in the next game

He's hanging with Varric too much at this point. XD

13:23 goodbye

14:32 hello were here to help

Not yet an archdemon, just a slumbering Old God like Lusacan.

lacewing I thought it was a reference to mass effect 3 ending

never seen that but they pull all sorts of references in these games

Marcos Amell Yeah I made that mistake in my first playthrough... Solas, Cole and Blackwall it is then!

At least Cassandra is a LITTLE more open minded then the others though that's not saying much. Still love Bull & Cassandra the other two make myblood boil & my teeth ache!

Makes sense, though. Bull was raised by the Qun to be afraid of magic and spirits, so that's ingrained in him. Sera's... kind of an idiot, so she gets angry at things she doesn't understand (magic and spirits). And Vivienne is... Vivienne. She's always judgemental of everything.

Sometimes I do like to make Solas hang out with Sera and Bull though. For my own amusement.

@@135mikerules23 at least she’s more open minded and less offensive then when in the Temple of Mythal.

Just commented somewhere else that hypocrisy is a defining character trait of many Dragon Age companions 😂 It makes it feel more realistic tho, these are ppl with beliefs who have built their personalities around them and aren't going to just give them up even when their dogma is being proven unequivocally false in front of their very eyes, or even when their very existence goes against their beliefs (like Iron Bull)

+Arthas Nerzhul When Sera and Bull first see the Nox Morta and just laugh.. Love it!

Yes sadly, Inquisition companion and the game in general was more pro Chantry than other games. It makes sense because the Inquisition, but it really took back variety. Even in DAO A circle mage like Wynne had an open mind about spirits

It’s not without reason, though. Like Solas said, a person can taint the spirit with their character, like what happens with his friend. Anders was open minded to Justice, turned him into Vengeance, and murdered numerous people. I think what needed to be emphasized was that demons are only such when they turn dark. The avvar likely built their tradition through lots of trial and error. The spirits were nurtured and kept around for ages.

This is why I loved Jaws of Hakkon. Showing us firsthand how wrong the Chantry is, and that there _is_ in fact a better way.

Tbh it all feels like a retcon comparing to the previous games.

​@@nathanielrodriguez1873But that's kinda the point - the reason is *definitely* not what they say it is or even what they think it is. Every character who is vocal about "spirits bad" also happens to be a reflection of the hypocrisy of their societies and most of their beliefs are built around justifying their place in it: Vivienne - A mage who rose from being an outsider with nothing to the most politically powerful of her kind and part of the top elite in the strongest Andrastrian nation. Iron Bull - A former Qunari cop turned Qunari spy who is a Tal-Vashoth in all but name, getting to live outside the Qun's demands without any of the dangers any normal Qunari would face. Sera - An elf "rescued" from a life of squalor in the alienage by a patron that she admits probably saw her more like a pet than a person, and whose whole life is spent rebelling against the social class she was raised in (though not a part of). *Cassandra's* the only real exception, but even she starts to lose her open-mindedness any time her faith is challenged. The rest are open hypocrites, so much that it's a defining personality traits in many of the DAI companions. Anders was the same - he was ultimately right that the Circle system was prone to injustice, but all his actions proved that he was as much of an asshole as every templar who oppressed mages thinking it would keep everyone else safe. This illustrates the point - their societies are fucked and make it more likely spirits will turn into demons, and they have no method to prevent it other than cutting off contact with them and quarantining the people more likely to be possessed. Compare that to the Avvar who respect the power of spirits in all senses of the word, and live with them according to their nature. You can also compare that to Tevinter, which despite doing all the things that are supposed to make a demonic possession buffet instead seem to have always dominated demons rather than being controlled by them. Then there's the ancient elves, which with Solas' comments and the Trespasser lore show that they lived alongside spirits with no worries, despite how fucked up the Evanuris are implied to be. The point is it's not that the spirits are the danger by themselves, it's that people are the bigger danger because they don't want to understand they're the bigger danger.

Nice choice in followers! I normally bring the same bunch, except with Cassandra instead of Dorian. Cassandra can be annoying, but as the Inquisitor I like having two different points of view affecting my decisions (cough cough Solas and Cassandra) And as for Cole... He's like a son to me. His weird and caring nature and neutral point of view is also a good middle-ground between Solas and Cassandra. And honestly if I was able to take a fifth party member, it would probably be Dorian. He's awesome.

@@joanedwards6477 In other words both you and Claire frankly hate them all save those three. I've learned that no dragon age character is perfectly likable which is why we have favorites, they all seem to reflect some form of socio-political dynamic. They are as worthy of our respect as people we like and loathe in this world. I have people I like that I enjoy the company of and people I just shut the door to and never talk to again because they piss me off so bad. I found dragon age characters are essentially no different and likely created by people who are well versed in social skills and psychology.

They like to have characters in the world hold those opinions, sure, to make you think about it, but not because they think that's a good opinion to have. Blaming the oppressed for their oppression is the easiest way to piss off Solas and Sera, for example. The devs just like to include themes that mirror the real world, difficult though they are.

I mean considering trespasser everything you said but the dwarves are kinda at fault for what they’re perceived as. The old elven mages were sociopaths who killed humans for fun and enslaved their own people bringing down their empire after infighting, the first massive human empire was Tevinter ruled by enslaving and blood magic using mages. Todays oppressed are just yesterdays oppressors fallen from grace. Both the fact some would hold those views in game and that it has a hint of truth is realistic

Also the elves didn’t just “not help” their army just watched a city of humans get completely destroyed by darkspawn and did nothing like they were simply watching a campfire instead of a city getting tortured and massacred

It's just real politics. If you isolate yourself and reject allies, you become an easy prey for any power. If elves kept their policy smart and cunning, they could preserve their kingdom. It's not about moral justification of aggression, it's about consequences. For the same reason it would be wise for them to give at least formal nod to Andraste.

The comment does not imply that elves deserved what befallen them, that is what you read into it for some reason. It is quite a matter-of-fact statement actually, from political perspective, not moral one - yes, if elves helped Orlais during the blight their homeland might not have been destroyed again.

No you hit the nail on the head .

Емил Владимиров oh come on, she probably has the most reasonable solution as divine. Give the mages more power to govern themselves but also reinstate the circles as places where mages can interact with other mages safely.

navyrotc2012 I never said anything about her political skills, just about her magical ones.

+Емил Владимиров She's historically one of the youngest people to ever successfully undergo a Harrowing and become a full-fledged mage, she was hired by the Empress of Orlais to be the Court's enchanter because she was "the most knowledgeable mage in the empire", and cannonically she can do everything Solas can do outside of their specializations (Rift Mage vs Knight Enchanter, Knight Enchanter was also the most powerful specialization until a recent patch because you could solo a dragon fight easily). Also spoilers for Trespasser: Solas is literally a god who created the Veil, and Vivienne probably couldn't do that but more importantly she wouldn't want to. She limits her power because she was raised in an environment that told her that she is one step away from becoming an abomination and causing mass destruction before (hopefully) being killed by a Templar. She's not 'dull' because she fears possession, she's trying to survive. And even when she limits her view on magic and how far she'll let herself go, she's still much more powerful then the average mage.

Misha Z You have a point about her being more powerful than the average mage, that much is true. Soloing a dragon is a gameplay mechanic don't confuse her lore-wise abilities with gameplay. Also don't forget that she became a knight-enchanter just for status, Not to mention that the warden, if picked is also one of the youngest mages in history to take his harrowing.That said you only confirm that she is narrow-minded when it comes to magic, she is a brilliant politician but her circle upbringing limits her magical abilities severely. Solas is right about the fact that there are no true limitations as to what magic can accomplish. Even with the veil, even with Mythal being just a wisp, she can perform magic Vivienne cannot even fathom only solidifying the claim that limitations only exist if they are placed there. The evanuris weren't gods but exceptionally powerful mages with a superiority complex.