I get what Danchou meant. At some point they had to move on. Like the case with Sana and how CouncilRys turned into Promise. They had to move on sooner or later and even if they kept certain things around like the plushie, it has sentimentality but also makes it seem like they're milking and even encouraging the nostalgia having it out on display. Even Sana on her PL had to make a statement for fans to stop calling her "Sana" and respect her decision to part ways because it was starting to cause trouble outside of Holo and for certain Holomems.
@WindyyyyyyyyyАй бұрын
She had to move on, and ultimately thats what happened. At the end of the day, Rushia had to be moved on for Noel.
@kjrv7779Ай бұрын
Poor girl... I hope she understands
@GawainWАй бұрын
Mikeneko (formerly Rushia) is already having it rough as is. Granted if you have seen recent news on her, part of it is her fault. You could see that she is also the kind of person that can't let go of things easily. But yes, whatever path to success she chooses now, I do hope she can find solace as well as integrity moving forward. There are still people that care about her, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't one of those people since I do sympathize with her to some degree.
@kjrv7779Ай бұрын
@GawainW I wish that she gets the rehabilitation she needs
@ArcterionАй бұрын
2:01 -- Don't look, Noel. It's not a pretty sight. D:
@guanluo3279Ай бұрын
What happened
@ArcterionАй бұрын
@@guanluo3279 Various menhera episodes, the biggest among which was her and her ex going through a very messy and public aftermath of their divorce, as well as her getting dropped by the voice acting agency she joined only a couple weeks prior.
@KevKrieger32Ай бұрын
Hey, welcome back! Missed your Noel clips! :D
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_MustacheАй бұрын
She has a good heart. In all honesty, though? Fair. The siutation is also getting...dicier. Our memories will be ours. She'll always have those.
@LonesomeDevilАй бұрын
People aren't necessarily all good or all bad. If it turns out one of your really good friends who's brought only good times and memories to you has been a prick to other people, it's way harder to do a full 180 on them than the internet would like you to believe.
@lightning116Ай бұрын
Understandable. We all miss Coco, Sana, Rushia and Mel, but time stands still for no one. Eventually you gotta move on, but you'll never forget the memories you made over the years.
@ninjaxtiger4476Ай бұрын
Dancho is a good girl, and wish for her friend to have her redemption arc where she'll be happy and good back. I hope so too
@Dorian_ScottАй бұрын
I kinda feel bad for both Noel and Mikeneko / Nazuna. The former having to abruptly start a new life without her, yet was also never forgotten by her genmates. Mikeneko has been going through a lot of things lately. I'm not *_entirely_* caught up with the controversy surrounding her, but I believe she had at one point attempted to take her own life. I just hope that she's okay.
@rinnesasori5602Ай бұрын
NO BRO SHE WAS CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND IN THEIR HOME(MORE LIKE HERS SHE DIDNT LET HIM MOVE IN CAUSE SHE WAS USING THE HOUSE TO BRING OVER HER AFFAIR PARTNER) AND TRIED TO SMEARED HIS NAME WITH HORRIBLE LIES
@Yx_Shorty_xYАй бұрын
@@rinnesasori5602 NOTHING GETS THE ATTENTION OF SOMEONE LIKE USING ALL CAPS, HUH? But yeah, that’s basically what can be summarized from all the information that has been made public.
@user-du7jz7re9sАй бұрын
I have no sympathy for her. She leaked company secrets. She sold engagement rings to fans and denied being in a relationship with Mafumafu, when in fact she was married and divorced. She discussed the issue with LeakKZfaqr streaming. She created an avatar that resembled Rushia and re-launched. She slandered her husband, even though she herself suffered from slander. She engaged in moral harassment of her husband. A friend of hers posted that she had attempted suicide, but she was discharged that day. She resumed streaming a few days later in good spirits. Rushia's fans are fanatical and coddle her no matter what happens to her, which I don't understand.
@HikarinChannelАй бұрын
@@rinnesasori5602spreading hate won't solve anything. Imagine if it's you or one of your family made the mistake instead. Every sinner has a future and every saint has a past. Don't act like you're a saint, don't judge and blame people for being sinful.
@HikarinChannelАй бұрын
@@gonfreecs3345 who said I'm defending? Read again with brain instead of hate.
@AngellishVАй бұрын
Last few months have been so crazy for that girl in particular. I hope she is seeling help.
@RoamingSimpАй бұрын
Time went on and everything changed, that’s why I always appreciate what stay until it change, and that’s why I always smile every time I see Matsuri banner
@Artista_FrustradoАй бұрын
that's sad but understandable. I'm glad she still keeps Rushia in her heart I hope she can talk about Rushia again, eventually
@AusdrakeАй бұрын
By the time her name is no longer a brand risk to Hololive, Gen 3 will have probably long moved on to have much reason to bring her up. If they can cherish the good times they had together despite all the ugly stuff surrounding her, that's good enough for me.
@kurotetsuoni13155 күн бұрын
It's been like three years (I think?) since Rushia was let go from Hololive due to contract violations. I do miss her. Whenever I watch Hololive Fantasy sing in a 3D concert clip or do a gaming collab stream, I just couldn't help viewing the group not complete without Rushia. I just wish that there was a way to bring Rushia back into Hololive and make up for all the mistakes like give her another chance or something.
@blankie4669Ай бұрын
Sigh... But it is what it is, perhaps this was for the best
@rinnesasori5602Ай бұрын
BRO WHAT RUSHIA DID TO HER HUSBAND NAH MAN
@kaanamiАй бұрын
@@rinnesasori5602Sure, she got problems and made mistakes(some pretty bad ones) but nothing is black and white. So, I just hope both mafu and mike get therapy or mental/emotional help and hopefully do better for their future.
@rinnesasori5602Ай бұрын
@kaanami it pretty much is. It's What You Do, And What You Don't Do ,
@MintyPolaroidАй бұрын
Anything anyone else does or did doesn't change what Rushia was to us. Those moments were good. The memories are real. That's what matters.
@theonlymegumeguАй бұрын
hisashiburi no noel clip XD
@mior1Ай бұрын
Nekonyan after get fired,always hard work never give up,she still in my best 3 vtuber i still like to watch
@TheLovedUnboundАй бұрын
Even with the new drama? I just can't support it personally.
@mior1Ай бұрын
@@TheLovedUnbound i want tell Nekonyan still work hard in my perspective,same to Rica do now,drama or not,is up to you,even she start lost many viewer,i still see she still i looking work hard and never give up,i hope old she viewer wake up and stop to blame she and comeback,don't one day the 'jewel'or 'star'shine is gone forever
@ryujin392Ай бұрын
Nekonyan? Rica? Who are their
@gamemations5066Ай бұрын
she's gonna resurrect, I believe
@Aquas1998Ай бұрын
Noel moved on. Rushia did move on, the rest however…
@Jamie-rr1mtАй бұрын
i wish more english speakers had sympathy for rushia and didnt just believe every nasty thing said about her, nobody believing a word she said yet believing every single word the people who had something against her said was heartbreaking to see
@notmo.Ай бұрын
I mean there were obvious things that she did and that you can't deny but it's useless to still linger on the hate so better just move on.
@Jamie-rr1mtАй бұрын
@@notmo. i dont mean shes perfect and never did anything wrong i just wish people looked at what actually happened through an unbiased perspective
@TheLovedUnboundАй бұрын
@@Jamie-rr1mtMost people like her a lot and want to believe. The other party just had more proof, and it's "my word against yours" situation where the victim is a man. Incredibly strange situation.
@azurerider812Ай бұрын
As an EN guy, kinda hard to when she promoted the worst virus in the fanbase. 🦄
@FantasiephilosophRakuАй бұрын
@@azurerider812The worst virus who didnt do any harm for the 2, 7 years she was in Hololive.
@JadedWarlockАй бұрын
Noel really is built different. I wouldn't have kept Rushia in my room lineup. Especially after learning what we know now.
@OpXarxaАй бұрын
"I don't know how she's doing now though" doing a lot of load-bearing there. Hard not to paint over old memories when learning what we now know
@MFSomethingАй бұрын
Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know.
@lqfr8813Ай бұрын
i hope dancho doesnt look into details of the drama with mikeneko and stays friend with her. i think anxious ppl like mikeneko has too little interaction with good personality friends and eats up more interaction on dramatuber like korekore
@FantasiephilosophRakuАй бұрын
Most of this is also Covers fault why she is as broken as she is now, there were more ways to solve this then to ruin someones life like they did. It was toxic and unexcusable to fire a suicidal, manic depressed person who suffers from anxiety disorder + lots of physical issues by not only completely tarnish her reputation but also ruining her future too by putting lots of oil in the fire which caused her and her fanbase constant harassment from corposlaves and antis for over two years, they invited this toxicity towards her. And how people are excusing this is just wild. She also did multiple suicide attempts because of this (knowing what happened its a high possibility she did that or constantly harmed herself). Knowing her relationship with Marine and Coco when she was Rushia, it proves that things can work out with her. I dont want to sound pessimistic but unfortunately I think Noel and others abandoned her, not because they wanted to but that they have to, the only think that kept connections between them is their job but now her gen has to focus on that and wont have time for old friends due to the huge amount of work load.
@lqfr8813Ай бұрын
@@FantasiephilosophRaku one fact you must remember when you are working in a company, companies are not family no matter how good they are treating the talents. theres a limit how much they can turn a blind eye, if you read the termination notice, rushia has been engaging 3rd party information to dramatuber longer than what happened to mafumafu case
@FantasiephilosophRakuАй бұрын
@@lqfr8813 True, the firing itself is justified but not the way they executed it, Phase Connect is a golden example of how a termination statement should look like and the damage Cover did was way worse then the nonexistent „reputational damage” (their talents are the reason why Cover has one in the first place) Rushia allegedly did to them and knowing Mel got fired over one mistake, its hard for me to believe that it was only Rushias fault, that it turned out as it was, Cover definetly is at fault too as it from now happened twice already that their talents vent their problems to a third partie instead of the company or their genmates they had a relationsship with for years and it also happened twice Cover went for the obliteration route while those 2 were suffering badly at the time. It seemed as tho, that Cover had learned with the much better way they terminated Mel but Cover also needs to remember that it was the talents that made them who they are, not sponsors, not investors or anyone else, they should have learned from the CN drama not to be to dependant to the point it costs them their talent that helped for so many years. Cover flew to close to the sun and I hope they can stabilize themselfs before they ruin themselfs. Being public traided is definitely not a good beginning to that.
@lqfr8813Ай бұрын
@@FantasiephilosophRaku i think theres another reason why Cover never mentioned in details what Mel's did wrong like what happened to Rushia's. while Rushia also contribute to hololive name, if they didnt cut off rushia like that, the drama would be more dangerous to cover corp as a company. thats how company works in general, like it or not. . if you didnt know, Mel actually has a problem with her own manager in past that harassed her. its part of Cover's mismanagement but they have changed managers
@FantasiephilosophRakuАй бұрын
@@lqfr8813 So its basically, that to save their reputation they needed to ruin hers?
@JericoLeslieАй бұрын
Naaaah she's a bad person
@Gh4nyaАй бұрын
"I don't know how she's doing now though" That's why noel still likes her. If she knew she wouldn't like her anymore.
@SpectraIАй бұрын
Why? Noel loves NTR.
@BunniestАй бұрын
bullshit
@HikarinChannelАй бұрын
spreading hate won't solve anything. Imagine if it's you or one of your family made the mistake instead. Every sinner has a future and every saint has a past. Don't act like you're a saint, don't judge and blame people for being sinful.
@mior1Ай бұрын
Nekonyan always workhard even after she get fired,the loyal Fandead,who become Nekofamii,still support she,she never give up,can you hate you are wrong and STUPID IDIOT
@AxleTradeАй бұрын
@@HikarinChannel Also mikeneko is such an easy target to smear that there would always be a bandwagon to attack her regardless of what the truth was. She's done a lot of bad things but a lot of the stuff pinned on her especially by her ex and the dramatubers were fishy and unproven at best. They just decided to do a demolition job on her because there's definitely a lot of beef behind the scenes and it happened just when she was going to be a pro VA too.
@CyclopsPhucLeАй бұрын
Probably due to the backlash of the whole Mikeneko drama thing, but i do hope Noel won't bother much about that girl anymore. Good riddance
@yodawgzgaming4416Ай бұрын
Oof. That's sad. I gotta disagree with making this move, especially so much later. Keeping Rushia's plushie there in the background wasn't doing anyone any harm 😥
@RoamingSimpАй бұрын
The fact that it hurt her to remove it and that she can’t put her feelings before work mean that it’s not as simple as we think, Flare said pretty much the same thing so I bet it must be some kind of rule that we don’t know about
@justnoel408824 күн бұрын
Its likely because of all the shit that happened to Mikeneko thats why they gotta remove. They didnt have a problem with her leaving the plushie there for the last 1 and half year after her departure but only this year when the scandal about Mikeneko blew up with her ex. The biggest one effecting Hololive i think is that one of the "friends" whom she vented to basically leaked messages from when she was still working in Hololive that showed her gossiping about other Holomems. She didnt specifically say who but she made it clear it was other girls in the company. Basically it became hard to associate with her for the safety of the Holomems. Had the shit with her ex not happen, I think they would still have kept her plushie around.
@yodawgzgaming441624 күн бұрын
@@justnoel4088 Hmm, I see. I hadn't known about all that, that's rough
@wai-hungng440Ай бұрын
Coco and Aloe had haters, but Rushia haters still remain because people believe the lies about her. And Mike gets new haters bcz they believe lies too. For Dancho & Rushia, the doll had to be removed. Gossip just create hate.
@EverythingNoodlesАй бұрын
don't forget that Miko also has it, even though it's not much, it made Miko cry when putting together the Sport Festival team, Calli also has it and Kiara also has it, until Kiara has sharp words for her haters "they don't have a mind of their own, they just follow the popular opinion". It turns out Gura also had haters when he streamed 3D for the Vocaloid game a few days ago. Ame also has one. On average, members with toxic mouths have haters. But in my opinion, things that Haters don't like for some reason don't make me stop supporting them, especially Rushia now. Moreover, Dancho's reason, which I think makes sense, is not because Hololive hates Rushia, but it is feared that Noel will be attacked by Rushia Haters, plus what Hololive is more afraid of is that there are new Haters without any basis who will sneak into the lives of Noel and the other members and they will be destroyed. The higher the popularity of Entertainment. the greater Antis' desire to destroy it.
@EverythingNoodlesАй бұрын
At least I'm happy that She expressed her opinion about Rushia. Of all things, I believe in Dancho and Hololive that it is impossible for them to taboo Rushia's name without reason, even after Rushia has been instrumental in raising Hololive's name.
@azurerider812Ай бұрын
The way Rushia raised Hololive's name was...not good. It was at the cost of their male brethren. Fuck off with your "Holostars is not Hololive rhetoric".
@altairlionАй бұрын
Noel is a saint. Considering what "she" tried to do to her ex-coworker it's understandable if no one wants to even mention her anymore. And here we have Noel.