Why Darth Vader VS Yoda Isn't Even Close!

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DanCo

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22 күн бұрын

Darth Vader. Yoda. Two of the greatest Force Users in all of Star Wars, and at their best, each of them can make a pretty strong case for the most powerful being in all the galaxy.
And today, well we’re gonna put that to the test! Using each of these characters in their primes, and including Expanded Universe lore, not just the new Disney Canon, we’re gonna see which one comes out on top - and really, is the fight between them even close? Well lets get to it!
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@DefileOdds
@DefileOdds 19 күн бұрын
Just because Anakin never reached his full potential, doesn't mean he didn't become more powerful after becoming Vader.
@Nic-rk3hs
@Nic-rk3hs 15 күн бұрын
Right vader would destroy anakin
@TheMasonson
@TheMasonson 11 күн бұрын
Naw he definitely gotten weaker because not being of flesh.
@animafia-family
@animafia-family 11 күн бұрын
​@@TheMasonson His potential got cut, for sure. And upon receiving those Mustafar injuries, he was 100% weaker than Anakin. But when he got back on his feet and became accustomed to his suit, say a little before the Obi Wan show, Vader would have obliterated Anakin no question.
@alexperezacevedo5888
@alexperezacevedo5888 8 күн бұрын
@@animafia-family While Anakin would be the "prime" version of Vader in terms of physical abilities, he wasn't as mature as Vader was. We also never saw the prime version of Yoda. We saw a Yoda that was past his prime. You can argue that Palpatine was afraid of Yoda, and that's the reason he did all the smoke and mirror tactics before the Jedi counsel was destroyed.
@gruntgamer4204
@gruntgamer4204 7 күн бұрын
For some reason people seem to think Vader was weakened to 80% of Darth Sidious's max strength in the force when he lost his limbs and got burned. When in reality he was only weakened to 80% of his own max strength in the force which at 100% was literally DOUBLE the strength Darth Sidious had in the force. The only reasons Vader never defeated Sidious are because of his suits vulnerability to force lightning, and the fact he focused more on dueling than the force itself even after his injuries. If Vader has simply honed his potential in the force, he'd have annihilated Sidious.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Yoda: Over, it is, young Skywalker. The high ground, I have. Darth Vader: You underestimate the power of the Dark Side! Yoda: Try it, do not!
@Mimic-45
@Mimic-45 20 күн бұрын
"Do or do not, there is no try."
@teaandwinewithmira3301
@teaandwinewithmira3301 19 күн бұрын
I’ve seen you mostly on anime related content. I guess your getting into Star Wars
@Night-RunnerEditz
@Night-RunnerEditz 15 күн бұрын
@@teaandwinewithmira3301 yea I’m slowly getting into Star Wars
@IzDeninskovich
@IzDeninskovich 10 күн бұрын
I imagine it kind of funny tho that anakin and Yoda would be the same height if it was Yoda that jumped to the higher spot
@ziphelelekhumalo9429
@ziphelelekhumalo9429 6 күн бұрын
😂😂
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Luke Skywalker watched both of them die in Return of the Jedi.
@jordanfields3402
@jordanfields3402 Күн бұрын
Luke also watched R2-D2 take a blast to the dome in Star War Episode 4 and die. Although a droid can be rebuilt with its processor still in tact.
@ultimatemagneto3354
@ultimatemagneto3354 20 күн бұрын
No, Vader wasn't the most powerful in the galaxy during the revenue of the sith. Sidious said he (Anakin) would become more powerful than either he and Yoda. Which would've been true... Had he not fight obi wan on Mustafar. But at that particular time no he wasn't the most powerful in the galaxy. Vader hadn't reached his peak. He was still an infant in the dark side when revenge of the sith took place.
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
True but by ROTJ he was more powerful than yoda but still weaker than sidious since they both grew in power substantially since ROTS
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 19 күн бұрын
@@tvvistedv3nom26 Originally, Vader was always more powerful than Sidious. He didn’t have to obey his master because of any threat of violence, it was the pact he made with Sidious and the dark side. Lucas film repeatedly confirmed Vader was the Ultimate fighter. Bar none.
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 19 күн бұрын
Lets look at the facts The Novels confirm that if Luke didn’t stop Vader and Sidious then the Jedi would have been finished. Lego Star Wars confirms that Suit Vader is stronger than Dooku who stalemates Yoda. Star Wars Comics and Shows confirm that Darth Vader and Sidious are the most powerful individuals in the Galaxy. Sidious toyed with Yoda and Yoda exiled himself when he realized this. Suit Vader nearly CRUSHED Sidious when he got put in the suit and found out Padmé died. The fact that Luke is the last hope of the Galaxy should tell you that Yoda was not on Vader’s Tier. Obi Wan in the New Hope Movie is stronger than Yoda and has a precise mastery over the usage of The Force. Sam Witwer had said that Obi Wan’s narrative was to be the strongest defense in the Galaxy. Look at how that worked out against Vader? Exactly. Sidious heavily implied that he held back against Yoda in Order 66 saying he only uses the Lightsaber to spite and insult Jedi. I can only potentially see Yoda beating Suited Vader in Pre-ANH Era before Vader’s powers begin reawakening where’s he’s stated stronger in Empire Strikes Back and stronger in Return Of The Jedi. Darth Vader would dominate Yoda, especially ESB and ROTJ.
@hermanjohnson9180
@hermanjohnson9180 19 күн бұрын
​@@johnarcher9480 I was thinking the same
@moabman6803
@moabman6803 18 күн бұрын
No Yoda was far more powerful than Sideous. The only reason he lost was because he fell and the clones were coming to the senate chamber. So he would be outnumbered if he stuck around.
@taylorgallion2748
@taylorgallion2748 20 күн бұрын
Yoda would win. He is too smart and studied. Mastered everything over centuries. Plus he is crazy fast when he needs to be. His force power is too strong. His absorb and telekinesis. No way he loses this fight. Maybe on his deathbed, but in his prime. No way.
@Night-RunnerEditz
@Night-RunnerEditz 20 күн бұрын
So Yoda beats him cause he has more experience, is the better fighter, and because he’s insanely agile and fast
@ashmyblunt
@ashmyblunt 3 күн бұрын
Not even
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Yoda has many centuries of experience.
@consciousgentile5141
@consciousgentile5141 19 күн бұрын
Who had more experience? Annakin or Dooku
@csc4781
@csc4781 18 күн бұрын
@@consciousgentile5141Anakin had to tap into the dark side to defeat Dooku
@TheRealTaolf
@TheRealTaolf 18 күн бұрын
@@csc4781Anakin still wasn’t far off from him because they had already fight a number of times before during the war
@TheRealTaolf
@TheRealTaolf 18 күн бұрын
@@csc4781but you’re still right tho 👍🏾
@csc4781
@csc4781 18 күн бұрын
@@TheRealTaolf you’re right as well 👌🏿
@ultimatemagneto3354
@ultimatemagneto3354 20 күн бұрын
Second, no he didn't. Vader did not defeat obi wan in a new hope. Obi wan gave himself up and become one with the force before Vader could strike him down. Obi wan didn't fight Vader with the intent on beating him. It was another lesson obi wan needed to teach his old Padawan. In reality, obi wan is 3-0 against Vader. 3-0 against maul, but 0-2 against Dooku. Quite a resume if you ask me.. And I didn't even mention Grevious.
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
The novel states otherwise. He was too weak at that point physically to withstand Vader. Also all the other times he won were due to anakin’s inner conflict and on mustafar his arrogance. Plainly just plot armor as even Lucas explained anakin was above Kenobi by ROTS. He was only behind mace and yoda out of the Jedi by that time and obviously behind sidious
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Nine-Tailed Fox vs. Godzilla
@Fourthaboveall
@Fourthaboveall 20 күн бұрын
I like this matchup indeed.
@ojt759
@ojt759 16 күн бұрын
10 tails would make more sense
@Geozone117
@Geozone117 8 күн бұрын
Godzilla shits on the fox.
@BlazerK1914
@BlazerK1914 20 күн бұрын
Yoda: “I will, if Obi Wan cannot finish you.” Darth Vader: “If my master can’t destroy you, I will.”
@anthonyewing457
@anthonyewing457 20 күн бұрын
I don’t think that any force user has even been more powerful than Yoda. He’s the only Jedi that stopped force lightning with his hands. Young Anakin was super powerful especially after he first turned but he lost to Obi Wan. Yoda said that Obi Wan wasn’t powerful enough to beat Sidious. Yoda losing to Sidious was plot armor. Sidious tried to exit rather than fight Yoda.
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
Sidious is more powerful in the force than yoda but yoda is definitely the better duelist
@anthonyewing457
@anthonyewing457 19 күн бұрын
@@tvvistedv3nom26 would you mind explaining your rationale?
@markykrajky13
@markykrajky13 16 күн бұрын
@@anthonyewing457 Read the canon comics Sidous is the strongest character by far in canon, he drove dominated a kaiju and was able to withstand the blasts of star heat in the comics
@samruhland848
@samruhland848 6 күн бұрын
@@tvvistedv3nom26 I’m not too convinced palpatine is more powerful than yoda, palpatine needed force lightening to push yoda in the beginning of their fight which yoda was capable of blocking but he didn’t react fast enough the first time to he got sent to the wall. Yoda simply pushed palpatine back into the chair and then sidious tried to run. He ran away from him again in their duel he realized he was likely going to lose eventually if he kept deuling him so he ran to the Senate chamber to throw the pods at him. Sidious prepared for that moment in the novelization he had a plan and home turf adavantage. If he fought yoda on solid neutral ground I really don’t see any way sidious wins in the end. Sorry for the essay but that’s just my thought process on those characters and what happened in their fight
@Tkyoking
@Tkyoking 18 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s stated anakin was conflicted on mustafar so he wouldn’t be at full power the one that attack the Jedi temple is probably his apex before Vader
@comixof2morrow
@comixof2morrow 10 күн бұрын
Considering Obi Wan beat Anakin/Vader twice... I'd say Yoda would make Vader look like an amateur
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 20 күн бұрын
-Why Nightwing vs Captain America is not even close. -Why MCU Daredevil vs John Wick is closer than you think.
@thanos8914
@thanos8914 19 күн бұрын
Closer it is not reality must you face
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979
@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 19 күн бұрын
@thanos8914 It is close. Daredevil is esentially fighting another Punisher (with minor differences and arguably more accurate)...and Matt didn't do so hot against Frank at the begining of season 2.
@soulbrother1143
@soulbrother1143 16 күн бұрын
Daredevil couldnt beat the punisher and had his hands filled with kingpin
@ihavegymnastics
@ihavegymnastics 6 күн бұрын
Daredevil would wipe the floor with all-that-I-do-is-fancy-aikido Wick....
@disruptor109
@disruptor109 14 күн бұрын
Dude, IF you watched episode IV's lightsaber duel between Vader and Obi Wan, you'd clearly see that Obi wan sacrificed himself during the duel. Vader didn't beat him. Obi wan became a force ghost, Vader's blade hit NOTHING!
@urukadooedwards7637
@urukadooedwards7637 5 күн бұрын
That's what I thought. Just dissappeared.
@kirkdavis2881
@kirkdavis2881 4 күн бұрын
He sacrificed himself because he couldn't win.
@GeneralShermansMarch
@GeneralShermansMarch 18 күн бұрын
Yoda reminded Luke that the dark side was easier, not stronger. Yoda earned his power the correct way. Fundamentals, discipline, knowledge, experience, technique...Yoda had everything but size
@grimaldusgonzalez6122
@grimaldusgonzalez6122 6 күн бұрын
Size, matters not
@messiahep3249
@messiahep3249 20 күн бұрын
noone said vader was faster than the emperor, where are you getting all this from
@messiahep3249
@messiahep3249 20 күн бұрын
so many incorrect statements in this video
@VictorVonDoom.
@VictorVonDoom. 20 күн бұрын
I’d do to Yoda and Vader what Sidious did to Maul and Savage Opress, but easier You may now give thanks to DOOM
@BradleyLodge
@BradleyLodge 20 күн бұрын
Definitely You'd embarrass them All hail DOOM
@fictionrumble
@fictionrumble 20 күн бұрын
Yoda destroys Vader
@DavidJ-ty5jm
@DavidJ-ty5jm 19 күн бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣
@fictionrumble
@fictionrumble 19 күн бұрын
@@DavidJ-ty5jm fact
@DavidJ-ty5jm
@DavidJ-ty5jm 19 күн бұрын
@@fictionrumble SO you think
@fictionrumble
@fictionrumble 19 күн бұрын
@@DavidJ-ty5jm yes
@Toosick10
@Toosick10 17 күн бұрын
Bro Yoda gets whooped by Vader 💀
@owenscott6159
@owenscott6159 20 күн бұрын
Rancor vs skullcrawler
@themainflow7137
@themainflow7137 20 күн бұрын
Skull crawler low-mid diff
@ferdinandgonzalez7407
@ferdinandgonzalez7407 20 күн бұрын
Older Obi let Vader win because he knew Luke was watching.
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 20 күн бұрын
Danco really doesnt know shit does he?
@CelestQB
@CelestQB 20 күн бұрын
Exactly💀
@MrEbo82
@MrEbo82 17 күн бұрын
Correct
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 14 күн бұрын
EXACTLY BRO.
@saul_goodman3932
@saul_goodman3932 5 күн бұрын
Facts
@ctgeorgia
@ctgeorgia 20 күн бұрын
Master Yoda vs Grand Master Skywalker? I have to believe Skywalker would win. He was considered the strongest Jedi ever.
@StReEtReApEr12R
@StReEtReApEr12R 5 күн бұрын
Not even close. Luke isn't even a competitor
@Thought-bot
@Thought-bot 11 күн бұрын
What Obi-Wan did against Grievous, Yoda can do in a split second.
@ericmanso7355
@ericmanso7355 18 күн бұрын
I always said this about Yoda, but the sad part is Obi-Wan was too weak to fight palpatine
@michaelluchansky4480
@michaelluchansky4480 15 күн бұрын
Mace would have beat Sidious if Anakin had not Butted in !!
@les4767
@les4767 18 күн бұрын
Actually, Yoda wins without even drawing his lightsaber...he uses the Force to shut of Vader's power supply to his suit! Vader suffocates and dies!
@cassianomota8574
@cassianomota8574 5 күн бұрын
Yoda absorbs lightning but he doesn't use it since its a dark side force. He CAN counter it but that's only after absorbing it.
@LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
@LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 20 күн бұрын
12:36 I knew Yoda wins
@TheDjbenton
@TheDjbenton 17 күн бұрын
Mace Windu vs Count Dooku
@kenb2671
@kenb2671 9 күн бұрын
Mace beat Darth Sidious with his lightsaber style. Dooku would lose the same way.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Can you rank every fighter from the Ip Man franchise?
@BourbonondaBayou
@BourbonondaBayou 20 күн бұрын
They did fight once, in an alternate universe comic. It was a reimagining of Empire Strikes Back. Vader kills Yoda in a duel. Not easily, but does win
@ultimatemagneto3354
@ultimatemagneto3354 20 күн бұрын
That being said the verdict is right. There's no way Vader is beating Yoda. One of the advantages Vader has on most of his opponents is that they don't know his Identity. Yoda knows who Vader is just like obi wan. And as we saw in the dark Knight rises when bane called out Batman's true Identity... It takes away from the Mystique.
@astabros3305
@astabros3305 20 күн бұрын
Kratos vs Dante
@HatsStayUnited
@HatsStayUnited 20 күн бұрын
FP Luke and Anakin > Prime Yoda?? = ROTJ Sidious > Rots Sidious = Prequel Yoda > Prime Vader > KFV > ROTS Anakin > ROTJ Luke > AOTC Anakin
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 20 күн бұрын
I see nothing but 100% facts (prime Yoda would probably be around TESB actually. Many fans think Yoda’s prime is way before the movies because that would be his physical prime. However, Yoda continues to grow in power and skill, even after ROTS, which makes him a superior combatant overall compared to his younger versions)
@HatsStayUnited
@HatsStayUnited 18 күн бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Yoda’s body by the time of TESB was confirmed to have grown very sick. He was holding himself together with the force to train Luke. There’s also statements in a couple prequel era novels that imply that Yoda even then was slowing in combat as well as not having as much of a command over the force due to age. Remember yoda would’ve been the equivalent of someone in their late 80’s by the time of the prequels.
@thenegativeone7806
@thenegativeone7806 6 сағат бұрын
​​​​@@HatsStayUnitedNa Prime Vader > Revenge Yoda. In Legends it is stated that Vader has 80% of Sidious Power. But the Power from Return of the Jedi Sidious Return of the Jedi Sidious >>>>>> Revenge Yoda So Prime Legends Vader > Revenge Yoda But Prime Yoda > Prime Vader Prime Sidious > Prime Yoda In Disney Canon Vader is more powerful than Yoda in every case. This is stated in the Vader Comics and in the new disney canon books.
@GregUtz98
@GregUtz98 18 күн бұрын
Obi-Wan actually basically surrendered by choice. He wasn't beaten in the last fight at least not in the classic sense of being beaten.
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 16 күн бұрын
I love how people add things that weren’t in the scripf
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
Please never say Vader was more on par than darth maul 😂 maul admitted he couldn’t deal with Vader alone and Vader was 80% of the Sidious peak power which was in ROTJ and both were more powerful than sidious was during ROTS
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 20 күн бұрын
Disney destroys both of them.
@averyce2
@averyce2 20 күн бұрын
FACTS
@trevorbellamy9755
@trevorbellamy9755 4 күн бұрын
Disney's fan fiction? XD
@mistermyself1128
@mistermyself1128 3 күн бұрын
Anikin and Luke had 6 weeks of training combined, and people keep comparing them to 800+ years. Wow.
@hotfunyunsop6196
@hotfunyunsop6196 19 күн бұрын
It's wild how many casuals think Vader is weaker than anakin
@planetdee3587
@planetdee3587 15 күн бұрын
Host: Anakin was suppose to have the most potential of anybody. Grogu: Hold my lightsaber..... hey! Give that back, what do you expect me to fight with.
@Mimic-45
@Mimic-45 20 күн бұрын
Xenomorph (Alien) VS Runner (Alien 3) VS Newborn (Alien: Resurrection) VS Grid (Aliens vs. Predator) VS Predalien (Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem) VS Neomorph (Alien Covenant)
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 20 күн бұрын
Wait… people are still repping the idea that Yoda beats Darth Vader? The Novels confirm that if Luke didn’t stop Vader and Sidious then the Jedi would have been finished. Lego Star Wars confirms that Suit Vader is stronger than Dooku who stalemates Yoda. Star Wars Comics and Shows confirm that Darth Vader and Sidious are the most powerful individuals in the Galaxy. Sidious toyed with Yoda and Yoda exiled himself when he realized this. Suit Vader nearly CRUSHED Sidious when he got put in the suit and found out Padmé died. The fact that Luke is the last hope of the Galaxy should tell you that Yoda was not on Vader’s Tier. Obi Wan in the New Hope Movie is stronger than Yoda and has a precise mastery over the usage of The Force. Sam Witwer had said that Obi Wan’s narrative was to be the strongest defense in the Galaxy. Look at how that worked out against Vader? Exactly. Sidious heavily implied that he held back against Yoda in Order 66 saying he only uses the Lightsaber to spite and insult Jedi. I can only potentially see Yoda beating Suited Vader in Pre-ANH Era before Vader’s powers begin reawakening where’s he’s stated stronger in Empire Strikes Back and stronger in Return Of The Jedi.
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
Fact 100%
@feline2322
@feline2322 19 күн бұрын
THANK YOU
@nate7498
@nate7498 18 күн бұрын
You must really like the dark side. Yikes.
@Darth-vade123
@Darth-vade123 18 күн бұрын
Facts Vader's power is not to be underestimated
@noahobrien-sf3zf
@noahobrien-sf3zf 16 күн бұрын
yoda was clearly holding back against dooku, trying to turn him back o the light side. you can see in the fight how quickly dooku goes on the defensive. if he hadn't fled by using anakin and obi one as sacrifies he would have lost. ie if yoda didn't let dooku flee to save obi one and anakin.
@OmertaGunClub
@OmertaGunClub 3 күн бұрын
i read somewhere vader could’ve upgraded his suit and made it more convenient for himself but having to struggle and be in pain everyday with his initial suit strengthened his connection to the dark side
@realbarrylipscombjr
@realbarrylipscombjr 19 күн бұрын
Big Things come in small packages📦
@johncampbell3390
@johncampbell3390 4 күн бұрын
There is ove extremely important aspect of Vader you are missing. The constant battles he had to fight. Take a fit guy in his prime, hitting a bag in a gym and a street guy fighting every day for survival. Most of the time, the street guy is going to win. Getting hit isn't natural. The more you fight and get hit, the more you can take. I'm not saying Vader would win, but it's closer than you think.
@Doug5614
@Doug5614 11 күн бұрын
The only reason why Yoda didn't go to Mustafar himself to stop Anakin is because he would have been sending Obi-Wan to his death to face and square off against Sidious. Even though Anakin had off the charts power when he finally fully connected with the dark side, he would have made fatal mistakes facing Yoda. Yoda had the clear advantage of centuries of knowledge in the force over Anakin. Yoda would have defeated him and finished him off. Probably would have cut off his head in a final blow. Especially after reviewing the files and seeing what Anakin had done in the Jedi Temple. Yoda knew Anakin was nobody to underestimate.
@chevin0
@chevin0 20 күн бұрын
Vader got overall more powerful once he was in the suit, but Yoda would have had an easier time with him. and even on Mustafar, Yoda would have bent him over almost immediately
@jones_da9005
@jones_da9005 6 күн бұрын
I think Yoda’s fast Ataru fighting style and the fact that he is probably the most experienced force user in the whole galaxy will make him win
@braedonbourque8327
@braedonbourque8327 20 күн бұрын
I was literally thinking about this battle a yesterday because I wanted to see who would win
@thebeast9606
@thebeast9606 13 күн бұрын
When Vader wanted to hunt down Yoda, Palpatine told him that Yoda would have killed him as Anakin AND as Vader. Also, Sidious actually said Vader "will be" more powerful than them, thus, he wasn't quit there yet.
@connerwhite2770
@connerwhite2770 20 күн бұрын
Why tf does he say young sky walker is better then prime vadar he obviously doesnt know lore and comics darth vadar slain over hundreds of jedi just on a quest for 1 his old master accomplishing feats to make him in this topic at all because i would bever put yound anikan vs yoda any day he lost to obi wan who is not the best dueling jedis not even in the top five i would put asoka over obi wan
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
I agree yoda would beat anakin but anakin didn’t lose to Kenobi because of skill. Lucas made it clear anakin was above Kenobi in every way and was only behind mace and yoda by ROTS he lost due to his own arrogance and inner conflict against Kenobi
@franktastichove7407
@franktastichove7407 7 күн бұрын
I don't always agree with you but this is spot on
@mikielsahagun6054
@mikielsahagun6054 16 күн бұрын
Hulk, Capt America, Hawk eye, Black Widow, Iron man Vs 50 Zinomorphs
@kimbelsimpson7535
@kimbelsimpson7535 20 күн бұрын
Yoda also has 900 years experience training Jedi and is also a Jedi Grandmaster.
@AndrewDavis-sj6mb
@AndrewDavis-sj6mb 20 күн бұрын
Which force will overcome the other-That's what to ponder the most about.
@rudebatman602
@rudebatman602 4 күн бұрын
Obi wan is the best! He beat maul 3 times, beat vader twice, and grievous. I can admit hes not the strongest if he fought against his opponents in an octagon, but he felt like a master tactician. Using the terrain, and understanding his opponents. This makes him someone you can't sleep on
@willdickens7712
@willdickens7712 20 күн бұрын
Vader is only a master as a star fighter
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 5 күн бұрын
Yoda used the force to drive his light saber. His dualing was through the will of the force not his physical prowess.
@callumebbrell9488
@callumebbrell9488 20 күн бұрын
Anakin fully potential solos yoda
@teenrose13
@teenrose13 20 күн бұрын
Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku vs Sentry
@rickross5512
@rickross5512 13 күн бұрын
It's time for a" WHAT IF" Star wars series.
@cyborgbadger1015
@cyborgbadger1015 3 күн бұрын
This idea of Anakin losing potential after losing his limbs is ridiculous as if there's arelationship between midichlorian count and body mass. Yoda was barely 3ft tall and obscenely powerfull.
@jgale2590
@jgale2590 8 күн бұрын
If Vader didn't get his limbs cut off and wasn't on a constant life support system. Maybe he would have a chance against the grandmaster.
@xero1048
@xero1048 20 күн бұрын
You know what, I think for once I’d like to see a fight on this channel that actually is close
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 20 күн бұрын
In Disney Canon, Darth Vader wins. He didn’t lose any force power after Mustafar, so he just continued growing in power. I’d say Yoda still has more skill in lightsaber duelling, but Canon Vader is so much more powerful in the force that he likely beats Yoda, especially when we consider his advantages in strength and durability. However, in Legends, Yoda absolutely gigastomps Vader. ROTS Senate Yoda is already fast enough to speed blitz tf out of Vader, his advantage in duelling skill is even bigger than it is in Canon, and Yoda is easily more powerful in the force. In legends, Vader did become less powerful after ROTS, which forced him to adapt and change his fighting style a lot. Vader did become a better duellist and was way smarter than he is in ROTS, but he still had a lot of catching up to do after Mustafar. Still, yoda is more powerful by feats, is a much better duellist, and the speed gap is insane. ROTS Senate Yoda is fast enough to match (and arguably outpace) ROTS Post Order 66 Darth Sidious, who’s faster and more agile than ROTS Pre Order 66 Darth Sidious, who was fast enough to duel mace Windu at such insane speeds that ROTS Anakin Skywalker couldn’t even perceive him and mace (they appeared to be flickering in and out of existence from his PoV), and Anakin is faster and more agile than ROTJ Vader due to not having the heavy suit weighing him down. So Yoda blitzes tf out of him. And keep in mind that this is just ROTS Senate Yoda. Yoda continues to grow in power, skill, versatility, and knowledge after ROTS, till reaching his absolute peak in TESB. TESB Yoda handwaves Vader easily.
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
If you go by Disney canon then Vader is a better duelist than yoda since they made a statement that Vader is the best duelist of all time
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
And yeah in the EU Yoda beats him but if we go by Lucas canon I think Vader can win at least in the force but in saber combat he’ll lose if he doesn’t use the force to assist him. By ROTJ Vader definitely grew more powerful than yoda
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 19 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@tvvistedv3nom26I don’t go by baseless statements, I go by their actual demonstrated feats and abilities. Star Wars fans are perhaps the worst when it comes to vs debates cause all Star Wars fans do is cherry pick statements to form their arguments. I can easily give you canon statements that yoda is the best duelist in canon. But by feats and abilities, yoda has centuries of duelling training and refinement over Vader, mastered the seven forms to a greater degree, has trained better duellists, and has better feats against more skilled fighters. Canon Vader has struggled in lightsaber combat against foes vastly less skilled than yoda. So yeah I’d rather have yoda’s skill than have a baseless statement from some little sourcebook. Lucas’s G-Canon is completely different from legends continuity. Lucas straight up confirmed this. In legends, yoda has better feats of power and has way more knowledge of the force
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Yeah, I just go by G canon.
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner
@Wes_Bradley-Taubner 19 күн бұрын
@@tvvistedv3nom26I mean, the thing is, G-Canon, Disney Canon, and Legends are all basically different continuities with different power levels for each of the characters. A might beat B in G-Canon and Legends, but not Disney Canon (Yoda vs Vader for example). A might beat B in Disney Canon and Legends, but not G-Canon (Old Ben Kenobi vs Qui Gon Jinn for example). It all depends on what versions of the characters being used in the vs battle. In a Legends battle like this one, G-Canon scaling isn’t relevant.
@silverpc4611
@silverpc4611 5 күн бұрын
Obiwan was about 10 years older then Anakin and would have been in his 50's in a New Hope. While I like Alec Guiness he was almost to old, it was more like he was playing a 70 or 80 year old.
@Dagger_323
@Dagger_323 5 күн бұрын
This is fundamentally wrong. You claimed that Vader lost much of his potential AND his power after he was put into the suit. That's incorrect. He simply lost most of his potential. Vader post-Mustafar became far more powerful than he was before he was burned. He simply could not ever reach anywhere near his full potential had that not happened.
@mikielsahagun6054
@mikielsahagun6054 16 күн бұрын
Darth Maul vs Psylock Darth Sidious vs Jean Gray General Grievous vs Nebula Shredder vs Predator
@hendrikmoons8218
@hendrikmoons8218 20 күн бұрын
A dozen "Bob Semple tanks" versus 1 Jagdpanther + 1 Kuggelblitz. The Bob-Semple's get the high ground... I just finaly wana see someone having the high ground loose...
@cookieDaXapper
@cookieDaXapper 8 күн бұрын
...Battle Front 2, Vader always routes Yoda in hero v.s. hero battles. In cannon Yoda fought Sideous and Obi Wan fought Vader because they had to clean up the "messes" that their neglect and short shortsightedness created.
@The_Lone_Wanderer_101
@The_Lone_Wanderer_101 2 күн бұрын
Vader became way more powerful in both dueling and the force after ROTS he also got smarter and wiser in the force and his tactics, ROTS Vader was just the start and although injured at the end he still gained in power
@Johnadams20760
@Johnadams20760 8 күн бұрын
very accurate. now if anikin had never got all messed up and kept training, he would have beatne sids and yoda at his full potential
@geromegalindo
@geromegalindo 18 күн бұрын
Some great points, I feel the same yoda comes out on top, but then he will have regrets. They should do a what if series on things like this.
@weaksauce1124
@weaksauce1124 20 күн бұрын
Please never say anakin is more powerful than yoda😂
@mr.starman8706
@mr.starman8706 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, DanCo really dropped the ball. In Canon, it was blatantly established that Vader's injuries amplified his power in the force, not hindered them. Vader was even stated to be the most powerful sith in the galaxy, with one of said statements even being attributed to Vader not even a decade after Episode 3. Yoda at his prime was still a drop in the ocean that was Vader's power. In Legends, although Vader lost potential, he still remained immensely powerful, with material blatantly stating that Vader became stronger following his defeat on Mustafar. Vader wins, mid diff.
@camthechameleon2577
@camthechameleon2577 20 күн бұрын
yeah all his loss on mustafar did was lower his ultimate potential but he increased his power in the dark side and even with his lowered potential he was still the most dominant force in the galaxy under the Emperor for a long time
@orienmonterrosa
@orienmonterrosa 20 күн бұрын
He also forgot that vader is 80% of the emporers peak not the emporer in RotS. The emporers peak is way higher than RotS and Yoda lost to that emporer so there is no way he'd beat Vader imo.
@madisonbordenave4869
@madisonbordenave4869 20 күн бұрын
Was looking for this comment
@tvvistedv3nom26
@tvvistedv3nom26 19 күн бұрын
Facts
@thenegativeone7806
@thenegativeone7806 16 күн бұрын
​@@orienmonterrosaIn Legends Yeah. But in Canon he did not lost any of his Potential. Sidious stated in the Canon Books that vader is limited because of his mind not because of his injuries.
@jaredglass2914
@jaredglass2914 20 күн бұрын
Next vid *Why Kingpin vs Tobias Whale isn’t even close!*
@josephmendiola766
@josephmendiola766 5 күн бұрын
Vader lost the ability to fire electricity without hands.
@user-bk5nj1qo6n
@user-bk5nj1qo6n 7 күн бұрын
The Jedi held him back on a lot of ways to help him understand and how to train and use his powers he was destined to get. As he turned he was feeling a power that he knew was powerful but at the same time he really didn't understand them yet, didn't know how to really use them or even know just how many things he was going to be able to do. That's because the Jedi between not trusting in him,fear, and I think even some jealousy. By this age they should have had him at the temple with Yoda,obi wan or at least another really powerful master to guide him through the learning of these unbelievable powers he was already near having at full potential. But no they chose to ignore him,not do the things he really needed to be the chosen one as they built him up since he was a kid. How do you not take the most Powerful of any Jedi to ever live,not just the Jedi but powerful then any sith also. How do you just ignore him and yet,make him be around, and alone with a Chancellor that none of you trust , how. The only thing that kept obi wan alive was the conflict Anakin was fighting inside himself the whole time they fought. If it wasn't,he would have killed obi wan pretty fast because one thing he did understand with the lightsaber and dueling. If he had killed obi wan,that would have pushed any other feelings for the Jedi out of his mind. If he then fought Yoda, Yoda would have had to flip and jump like crazy just to try and keep p from getting hit by the saber and that would tire him out fast and then he would be killed. It's sad how this whole story is but the Jedi made him turn more then anything else. All the things they pulled and done against him and the Jedi codes were terrible. Even his Master and father figure does a forbidden strike on him that leaves him without his arms and legs. Think about that,all the shit that they had done the last and most betrayal one could do,is a move that isn't allowed and forbidden is done to him. I'm sure Anakin and anyone else would rather have been killed then left that way and to make things worse. He has to feel the torture of being burned almost to death as he's being watched. Yeah it's pretty terrible if you really think about everything that actually went down with him.
@adampotters3687
@adampotters3687 4 күн бұрын
I think it would be possible for Vader to win...IF he was given a better suit. Palpatine deliberately made his suit limited. Also, vulnerable to force lightning. Great video though! Loved it
@jaredrobinson4571
@jaredrobinson4571 20 күн бұрын
Remember he retreated to that swamp Planet because he lost
@anthonyewing457
@anthonyewing457 20 күн бұрын
plot armor. He had to lose otherwise the story would have been over.
@madyguro2689
@madyguro2689 19 күн бұрын
facts i rewatched the movie and plot armor and plot straight up said " The Slaughter must go on " and straight up nerfed yoda abit just so he can retreat back to his home.
@brockmiller574
@brockmiller574 5 күн бұрын
If Anakin got in touch with a good therapist earlier in life, he may have become the juggernaut that some dudes fantasize about. He could have become something. But he had the emotional IQ of the worst emo kid nightmare you could imagine. He would never become the equal of his potential because of childhood trauma. Yoda, and the rest of the Jedi are hampered by hubris. They should have seen Palpatine moving in the force. However, they were high on their own supply. Palpatine had probably planned on reducing Anakin to a fraction of his potential as a means of thwarting Plageuis' plans ultimately. Hes a big enough psycho to keep the suffering fool around as a supply to his own sadistic pleasure. The Skywalkers bring balance to the force by being an instrument of decimating the numbers of the Jedi.
@jkgaming0565
@jkgaming0565 19 күн бұрын
Bro who pronounces an AY-AT as @@ 💀💀💀
@andrewgeorgecomeau4066
@andrewgeorgecomeau4066 7 күн бұрын
How can you say that Vader is most powerful at the point when he didn't even know the Darkside yet. He was a Sith that had t even been through any of the things that gave him his strength in the darkside.
@craigcampbell5590
@craigcampbell5590 5 күн бұрын
If Yoda faught Vader on Mustaffa, I think he might've been able to save him. Obi was too close to him. Yoda's a bit like his great, great, great granfher
@scottmadoff7444
@scottmadoff7444 20 күн бұрын
i think don lemon could tell you when someone is in their prime how about prof. x vs. darth vader parasite vs. doomsday ultron vs. mecha godzilla hillary clinton vs. kamala harris (death battle)
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 20 күн бұрын
Happy Friday.
@1026JMS
@1026JMS Күн бұрын
All of this makes the whole of Star Wars absurd. When you consider everything comprehensively, nothing makes sense.
@flyte707
@flyte707 4 күн бұрын
George already said obi wan threw the fight and obi wan was even stronger than vader in a new hope. My theory is he knew he could only defeat the emperor by becoming one with the force and guiding luke
@fatherlesss
@fatherlesss 19 күн бұрын
Day 1 of asking DanCo to credit his sources
@jasonbladzinski5336
@jasonbladzinski5336 Күн бұрын
Vader became more powerful even in his suit than Anakin was before his near immolation. It's just that he couldn't achieve his full potential anymore.
@markfrank5937
@markfrank5937 14 күн бұрын
There's a reason Sidious didn't want to see Yoda.
@Mapca45
@Mapca45 19 күн бұрын
Vader was said to drop to 80-85% of his potential. He was still in the top 5 even 3 most powerful SW characters ever
@user-tm8ge8yq6c
@user-tm8ge8yq6c 20 күн бұрын
Homelander vs Skullcrawlers
@madyguro2689
@madyguro2689 19 күн бұрын
if Juvenile he would win but extreme diff but if adult skull crawler wins. ( reason homelander has not fought someone stronger than him not even fighting someone equal to him in terms of strength speed and knowledge.)
@christopherbusenkell8633
@christopherbusenkell8633 4 күн бұрын
why wasn't the emperor insistent on finding and killing yoda, the leader of the jedi? seems like he would've been the most important to make sure is dead?
@christopherbusenkell8633
@christopherbusenkell8633 4 күн бұрын
in the end then, what made luke so great? self control? if he had a jedi master to train him would luke have been better or just become a knight faster?
@brodiwebb6996
@brodiwebb6996 2 күн бұрын
But in the comics it is stated Darth Vader surpassed his younger self.
@keithallver2450
@keithallver2450 16 күн бұрын
Yoda's arrogance would be his undoing.
@carloscenteno1766
@carloscenteno1766 18 күн бұрын
Suggestion: Adriana Vazquez (Welcome to alcapulco) vs Olivia Benson (Law and Order)
@razzo086
@razzo086 19 күн бұрын
Your completely wrong on understand Anakin’s situation and powers, when Anakin was fighting and lost to Kenobi his powers were by far the strongest force powers any Jedi, Sith or living being ever had and ever will be, it’s just he could only tap into around 20% of the powers he had. He didn’t have the knowledge or understanding to use his powers correctly. He was also reckless and overconfident in making stupid mistakes because he let his power get to head without knowing how to use them properly and his emotional state wasn’t good. Also the Jedi really limited him from using his powers properly and not even letting get into the the restricted archives of the library. If he didn’t lose to Kenobi and trained for another say 3-5 years without any limitations or having the Jedi from holding him back then he would have become insanely strong and pretty much unbeatable. Also if Anakin didn’t lose to Kenobi Palpatine would have taught Anakin everything he knew about the force, ancient texts and even lightsaber form variants and more which was a huge amount of knowledge but because Anakin lost to Kenobi which also made him lose at the very minimum 50% of his power but probably more closer to 60% maybe more. Palpatine saw him as a failure and changed his mind about sharing any knowledge to Anakin/ Vader since he didn’t think the damaged Vader could even surpass him after losing so much power. After the loss to Kenobi Palpatine pretty much taught Vader absolutely nothing and actually limited Vader with the terrible technology to his suit and made him suffer even making Vaders suit very weak to force lightning attacks and making it heavy a clunky. It would have been awesome to see a Vader with a suit of the best technology the was made out of besker that was also light and nimble but Palpatine was a prick 😂
@michaelluchansky4480
@michaelluchansky4480 15 күн бұрын
Anikin’s arrogance was his downfall!!
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