The tragic story of little Gabriel | Underground Adoption?!
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@nict4343 5 жыл бұрын
Wife: I want nothing to do with this kid Husband: I'm happy to take full custody Judge: EQUAL CUSTODY
@laura987123 5 жыл бұрын
Right!
@Luminocite 5 жыл бұрын
Probably bc the judge had the idea that as a woman she should take care of her baby, I'm sure of it
@nurseray6866 5 жыл бұрын
Right! What is this?? Smh
@eddllkkee 5 жыл бұрын
You'll never see protests wanting more equal rights for fathers tho
@momofdeux 5 жыл бұрын
Justice system is fucked. But maybe the judge felt the mom was dealing with ppd and would come around.
@2011missdee 5 жыл бұрын
The major issue here is that in the beginning; even when Elizabeth wanted nothing to do with her son...she was for some reason given 50/50 custody.
@_anshin_anshin 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm saying. I think it's the sexist idea that women are naturally motherly and need to be with their child. But she didn't want the baby when she found out she was pregnant but he forced her. Everyone was apparently aware of how unstable she is...yet she still had custody? I wonder why they couldn't come to an agreement if the father was the only one that apparently wanted the child.
@BookishAlexis 5 жыл бұрын
Seems the court system only looked at the surface
@merediva6069 5 жыл бұрын
agreed! like wtf?!
@jackieacheson4928 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't let her give up her rights and let him take full custody.
@bitchimgordie 5 жыл бұрын
So tragic and unnecessary. If that baby had just been allowed to be taken care of by his father this wouldn’t have happened.
@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely believe that, in cases like this, they shouldn't get out of jail until she gives up the location of the body, either alive or dead.
@123dervla 3 жыл бұрын
Tazhie Nunurbusinezz 100%
@winterwords8804 3 жыл бұрын
Helen’s law in the UK but it may not help
@urmammy84 3 жыл бұрын
💯🙌
@elizabethduncan1550 3 жыл бұрын
its called contempt of court if the judge wants too
@cashkitty3472 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jannaredington88 3 жыл бұрын
The judge who gave her ANY custody should be disbarred. This is the most severe incompetence in a person elected to judge. This case is both infuriating and heartbreaking.
@boxwoodgreen 3 жыл бұрын
The Family Courts are near 100% "woke" institutions. Men, ... fathers get custody in my jurisdiction in only 7 out of 100 contested custody cases. I made a sad joke to my lawyer that a woman could ride into court naked on a Harley with a needle sticking out of her arm, and she will still win.
@froggy20362 3 жыл бұрын
@@boxwoodgreen Lol do you honestly think pushing women as natural mothers and nurturers is "woke"?? Because that's the root of it, not some random pointless discrimination against men (especially considering most judges are men.)
@boxwoodgreen 3 жыл бұрын
@@froggy20362 I never said that. I said the court systems are stacked against men/fathers. I don't know anything about your jurisdiction, but I never saw a male judge in my term winning custody of my kids. Women currently outnumber men 2-1 in law schools. I'm one of those seven percent of men who won, even with the whole system stacked against me. If women are "natural mothers, and nurturers" ... why have 60 million babies been killed in the womb since Roe Vs Wade ? With the women in charge ?
@froggy20362 3 жыл бұрын
@@boxwoodgreen I literally said they weren’t idiot. I said it’s not progressive to think that way and getting rid of it is the only way to actually attack the root of the custody thing you seem to hate so much. Also just because women outnumber men in law school doesn’t change the fact that women only make up 27% of judges. Maybe if you could look past your clear bitterness towards women for five seconds you’d realize the actual reason this is happening. It’s not because people randomly hate fathers.
@froggy20362 3 жыл бұрын
@@boxwoodgreen And wow you don’t believe women deserve rights to their own bodies either. Why am I not surprised? I feel bad for whatever poor lady had to procreate with you for you to have a kid, no wonder you separated.
@brittanyhypes5971 5 жыл бұрын
Danelle- I am hoping you see this. An acquaintance of mine passed away last week. She had spent the last 9 years desperately searching for her brother who disappeared in 2010 under very mysterious circumstances. He was only 24 years old when he disappeared. She was only 28 when she passed from depression in connection to the disappearance of her brother. I thought it might be a great way to honor her memory. She dedicated her life to finding out what happened to her brother. Perhaps you could help to continue to get the word out about her brother and bring him justice? His name is Shane Donahue and he went missing from Northern Virginia. Please like so Danelle will see ❤️
@DexiDadzie 5 жыл бұрын
Brittany Hypes she doesn’t take suggestions from the comments anymore. There’s a google form in her description box. Also, I’m from nova and I’ve never heard of this case but I’m sending my best wishes to you and his family and him.
@IntoTheUnknown420 5 жыл бұрын
Brittany Hypes I'm sorry you lost your best friend, I've lost a bff gosh it's been 20 yrs and think of her daily. My condolences and prayers. I think you should let any of people on KZfaq that do these type video know. Spread the word to all. Maybe we can bring him home no matter what the circumstances are. Have you heard of Mr.Davis on here? He does a lot of missing persons case and cold cases. Do you have anymore information about his disappearance? Can you get pictures? I'm thinking of looking into cases like these, a passion of mine. So heart breaking to think of all these families who are heartbroken and worrying about their family or friends that are out there somewhere even if it's not a good outcome. I'm open ears if you ever need to talk, it's hard to be in your spot and sometimes you don't know what to do or who to talk to. I've had it rough the the past 2 year. My mom passed the night before my birthday in November 2017, then my aunt passed away on Christmas 2018 due to a house fire. Then about a month ago my brothers fiancé shot herself. My last seems to filled with tragic events so in return maybe I can help someone else and make my life seem a little brighter. Much love, many prayers, and my best to you.
@petithibou1891 5 жыл бұрын
Brittany Hypes i think you should email her
@brittanyhypes5971 5 жыл бұрын
@@DexiDadzie thank you for the info!!
@emmaspangler5237 5 жыл бұрын
Brittany Hypes not to be rude to ask, but what was his name? I’m from central Virginia and don’t think I’ve ever heard of it. I’d be interested to look into it. Maybe if we all submit a form she’ll be more likely to see it? I’d love to help get her attention on this case! Sending love and thoughts your way and the families, I hope it gets resolved
@purrfectpal 4 жыл бұрын
I hope that one day KZfaq will put up Missing Persons ads on videos. Imagine the publicity and impact these cases would get. So many people watch KZfaq every day and it can reach people who may have information that didn't know about the case.
@tonyakruid2095 4 жыл бұрын
I think that’s a great idea
@Healthevoid 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! Thats an amazing idea!
@Lindseyisloony 4 жыл бұрын
Dream on... You think a site that pushes Trump propaganda videos gives half a f*ck about helping find missing people? Nope.
@cyberspelunker1980 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea.
@user-sn7vr4di3z 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an amazing idea! I wish so as well. But KZfaq is all about monetary gain, I don’t this they can make any money from it so I don’t think this will ever happen unfortunately
@ShalomDove 3 жыл бұрын
“Logan was given full custody of Gabriel...” oh, awesome, give his father full custody AFTER the child disappears... good work, legal system. That’s amazing , in the worst way
@opaque1231 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so stupid honestly
@anonymousreviews6170 Жыл бұрын
Right?! That is such a slap in the face. Like they did there good deed for the day 🙄
@noriespiff6079 Жыл бұрын
She has a daughter now and changed her name to Naomi Aragon. Gabriel's paternal family is still searching for him. So heartbreaking 💔
@annatapperson3528 5 жыл бұрын
That judge is an idiot to see that this woman didn’t even want her own baby and still gave her custody also????
@laceyjade9834 5 жыл бұрын
Anna Tapperson Right? The court system is a joke! My kids dad tried to kill me when I was pregnant. Was in the hospital, told I had a miscarriage & the police did NOTHING because his dad was friends with most of them. Come to find out 3 months later I did NOT lose my child. So he kills my child on paper, I have documents & evidence out the ass & they were STILL going to give him supervised visitation which would’ve eventually turned into unsupervised. The judge risked her job & told me to leave before paternity was proven because it was obvious he wanted nothing to do with my child. During this time I found out that in Arkansas they have a law where a rapist is given rights to a child born from that rape 🤬 it’s sickening!
@annatapperson3528 5 жыл бұрын
Lacey Jade I never knew that they made that a law. This whole country is twisted.......it’s hard to even tell what they even really stand for anymore
@SL-ul3yr 5 жыл бұрын
The really fucked up part is that Elizabeth utilized her custody rights despite not wanting Gabriel anyway. She really hated Logan so much that she played along with the split custody arrangement for a child she didnt want.
@whitwhit321 5 жыл бұрын
The law completely failed him
@WhitneyDahlin 5 жыл бұрын
The court is sexist against men. Most courts default give mother the custody. It's messed up and it's harming/killing children.
@Opheliamamars 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why a judge would give her 50/50 custody when she didn't want him and wanted to give him up for adoption from the beginning. I don't get why.
@janewright315 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I would be curious to see the court records on this.
@laceyjade9834 5 жыл бұрын
Oh trust me it happens all the time. Certain states give rights to rapists when a baby is born from that rape 🤬 the court system is a joke.
@laceyjade9834 5 жыл бұрын
Minnesota & Alabama
@janewright315 5 жыл бұрын
@@laceyjade9834 yup
@susanhughan2198 5 жыл бұрын
Sara T Unfortunately, in court, that’s all “hearsay” - Even tho we know the truth now, the courts can’t go on whatever she said in the heat of an argument.. Please don’t misunderstand me, I totally agree with you💔 but this is the answer to your question 😢
@victorianne92 3 жыл бұрын
Danelle, the Lord gave you a gift and I’m so appreciative of the work that you do! Gabriel is my nephew and we’ve been trying to bring more attention to his case. Thank you for taking the time to share it! Logan is married and they just had their 3rd child. We look forward for the day when Gabriel can meet his other siblings.
@hrhplease9119 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻 amen
@deannachen5319 3 жыл бұрын
Prayers sent to you and your family . and. Mostly Gabriel and i pray he is alive and well cared and loved for.
@JCC_1975 3 жыл бұрын
Praying for his safe return 🙏
@dmnovak66 3 жыл бұрын
Sending prayers for Gabriel, Logan and your entire family. ❤️
@michellesartori6695 3 жыл бұрын
So pleased to know that Logan has found some happiness is his life and is a dad to Gabriel's siblings. I hope that as Gabriel hits his teens and has more unsupervised time on a computer that he might then see his face on a screen somewhere and do some investigating on his own and one day, in 6 years when he is 18 and an adult, come looking for his dad! Best Wishes to you all and I'm truly sorry for the pain that Elizabeth gave you! May she rot in Hell!
@kodidelaney9608 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a perfect example of how the court systems discriminate towards men in custody cases. The mother straight up said "I don't want this child whatsoever" and Logan said he was willing to have him full time but the judge still gave 50/50 custody....
@mikesanders8621 7 ай бұрын
This is what happens in a country where judges are elected and aren't required to have gone to law school.
@cypher237 5 жыл бұрын
Does she not realize she had the perfect person to "adopt" Gabriel!? HIS FATHER!! She didn't need to be involved ever again, she could have had her "new life".... But she was too spiteful.
@Altheaisokay 5 жыл бұрын
Diana Fronsdahl she tried to give him full custody.. judge gave the 50/50 - I wish someone would have told her that she can terminate her rights
@crazylicious85 5 жыл бұрын
althea bird no Elizabeth didn't want Logan to have full custody, everything she did was to hurt Logan, which is why she told him she killed Gabriel. I'm still not so sure she didn't kill him, but I hope she gave him to good family.
@abriellaaceves6988 5 жыл бұрын
I think she just wanted to hurt him
@DaJesster0405 5 жыл бұрын
BPD doesn't work that way.
@riverdaleasmr7624 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@reallyrho1101 5 жыл бұрын
It boggles the mind that the baby is gone and this evil woman only got 5 years and is now free as a bird. What kind of justice is this? .
@alicefayxxo 5 жыл бұрын
she should always be in solitary confinement until she confessed where the baby is
@sint0xicateme 5 жыл бұрын
@@alicefayxxo yeah, that's cruel and unusual punishment and it happens too much already. People have rights, even monsters.
@zazoo1.075 4 жыл бұрын
@@sint0xicateme nah what's cruel and punishment is her receiving only 5 years after she gave her son away to god knows who, when the kids dad would have taken care of him. She didn't want the kid, she said she killed him, the kid disappears and now she is FREE.
@isabellar581 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it’s because she’s a woman.
@lindsaysunde4131 4 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing
@nikkid692 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like human trafficking not adoption.
@karenapollicina8925 3 жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree
@motorcitymangababe 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought. And knowing what i know about that.... Not good. Very not good.
@kaylacampbell6320 3 жыл бұрын
Yepppppp
@amym5114 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcitymangababe AGREED!!!
@Karma-xe3tp 4 жыл бұрын
I hate when Judges have this misconception that a child is always best with the mother when there are so many cases that prove otherwise. Stop making it difficult for a Father to get custody of his child when it clearly shows the Father is the best fit.
@tgoeden24 5 жыл бұрын
The judicial system really makes me SICK.. father's are never taken as seriously as they should be and it's so sad
@tgoeden24 5 жыл бұрын
Liloh Loves Subtitles oh my gosh, that's so sad! I hope those girls are alright
@pureroyxltyy 5 жыл бұрын
Facts💯🙏🏽❤️
@thepowerof6six809 4 жыл бұрын
It happens just as much to mothers
@tiffanyzhu9587 4 жыл бұрын
goodbyehoes The sad thing is in this case I don’t think the mother wanted custody at all. There was no custody battle. Forcing moms to be in their children’s lives when they obviously don’t want to is causing a lot of damage.
@azucenas_ghost 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time it happens to the “poorest” of the two parents regardless of gender. :(
@stacysteele8497 5 жыл бұрын
The level of petty to choose prison over letting the father have his child. Wow. Woooww
@carter9643 4 жыл бұрын
The truest petty Betty that ever lived!
@truthteller0465 4 жыл бұрын
The only way it makes sense to me is if the adoption fell through and she was so desperate to get rid of Gabriel that she actually killed him...she knows she can't give up info because she will go to prison for his murder...
@stephaniek1076 4 жыл бұрын
Unless the reality of what she truly knows is much worse than five yrs.
@jennagill7017 3 жыл бұрын
Why give custody to a mother when she don’t want her child like she wanted to put the kid up for adoption and you want to give her half custody she ain’t even want the child at all like damn why the system keep failing these kids
@kristyarnol6812 3 жыл бұрын
I'd 100% choose prison over my kids going to their fathers
@silverfire1248 3 жыл бұрын
I pray that the underground adoption turns out true. Hopefully he’s in a family who loves him. He should be with his father, however between him being alive with another family and him being dead, I hope he’s with another family and that family treats him with love.
@EmilyMineDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
If it was Logan’s court scheduled time to have the child, the cops certainly could have done something. She broke a court order.
@jaimievale1979 2 жыл бұрын
All you can do is file contempt in family court. Cops won't do anything
@NiaJustNia 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope this is going to be like that teenager who saw an aged increased photo of himself and discovered he was a missing child, and came forwards to be reunited
@wendytovar535 4 жыл бұрын
NiaJustNia what case was this?
@NaughtyAutie 4 жыл бұрын
Ya that teenager turned out to be in his 20s and not be the missing child
@tamrymer4153 4 жыл бұрын
the one from Hawaii?
@niaram 4 жыл бұрын
Autumn Heiston there’s multiple cases where things like that has happened so she might be referring to a different story. like the one where the boy didn’t have a social security number which he thought was weird and later saw an aged increased photo of him and was found.
@teenina1374 4 жыл бұрын
What case is this?
@missjuliej1 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most underground 'adoptions' aren't to families. They often result in the children going to much darker situations
@CrazyMuffin997 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention this, maybe Elizabeth knew and thats why she didnt give up any information
@micheller2283 4 жыл бұрын
No they aren't. They are sold to very desperate people who want to be a parent. And they are sold for a lot.
@CrazyMuffin997 4 жыл бұрын
@@micheller2283 😅 im sorry but child trafficking is very real, im not saying that the possibility of the child being sold to someone who wanted him and will treat him well is unlikely but the possibility of child trafficking is also huge...
@micheller2283 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyMuffin997 you didn't say child trafficking. I'm aware child trafficking is real but underground adoptions are mostly done by people who want a child not some rando child molester.
@alainafoster5954 4 жыл бұрын
@@micheller2283 we all knew that @F. Meant human/sex trafficking.... and it’s more likely he got sold to human traffickers not a family.
@stephaniemcpherson2558 3 жыл бұрын
These “baby markets” are extremely well connected. There are judges, politicians, DSS officials, lawyers, and billions of 💵 involved. Sometimes even mafia & celebrities. 🤨
@Kelly-jn4cp 3 жыл бұрын
And the illuminati and the CIA.
@DixieGeek09 3 жыл бұрын
I know a girl that sold her baby for $30,000 in the U.S. nineteen years ago. She even sold her son through a legal adoption agency! When her son became 18 he found her. There is no paperwork showing money was exchanged for him. He started living with his birth mom, as she gave him a sob story about how she was so upset about having to give him up. My parents had actually wanted to adopt the boy when he was born but the mom wanted money. My parents refused and the son was sold.
@tamiruiz2523 3 жыл бұрын
City official and political people. Az just busted a city official for running an illegal adoption with out of country woman.
@Mira-jj6du 3 жыл бұрын
She has essentially gotten away with a horrific crime. What in the HELL is wrong with the JUSTIC SYSTEM!?!??? This is just insane!! Karma WILL get all people involved.
@briannabell1463 5 жыл бұрын
Why are they not checking the Six Flags cameras?? They could very well track her movements and see what happened to Gabriel while there.
@gummyeojin 5 жыл бұрын
Brianna Bell good point. could possibly prove she illegally put him up for adoption, maybe even ended his life.
@almatorres8960 5 жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts!! They might catch her talking with certain people!
@Girlytang 5 жыл бұрын
Alma Torres me too!
@courtneylovesmaccompact9047 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like they can never pull simple stuff like that unless someone REALLY wants to. Its crazy
@sarahvand3628 5 жыл бұрын
From the sound of it they did? If they say they saw her there on video
@Theyrecomingtogetyoubarbara 5 жыл бұрын
I believe she had him illegally adopted. The phone call in which she stated she had killed Gabriel, took place before a woman babysat him in a hotel and they were seen at six flags. Also, she wouldn’t have gotten a $20,000 ring if she’d killed him. She sold her baby. She either didn’t care who bought him, or she is so sociopathic she wants to continue to inflict pain on others (particularly Logan) by keeping quiet.
@princess_shell 5 жыл бұрын
That's TRUE! That ring is a direct giveaway. There's no way she had 20k to splurge on a ring. I wonder if the people she sold him to were even from the US, if children are getting sent all over the world through underground adoption. This case needs a miracle 💞
@DarkAngel71180 5 жыл бұрын
Taz M I thinks she's afraid to give information. Whoever was involved with that illegal adoption is gonna go down if she gives up that info and they' might seek revenge. Maybe she was already threatened with that And since she's a selfish piece of trash she's only going to do what doesn't hurt her.
@chastity5214 5 жыл бұрын
Youre right..I didnt think abou that
@sarahvand3628 5 жыл бұрын
Yep the ring is the giveaway for me..
@Theyrecomingtogetyoubarbara 5 жыл бұрын
The ring is the most important thing because there was no way she could afford it. It was a payment. I know this is horrific but at least the evidence proves she lied when she said she had killed him. We know that at that point and afterwards up until six flags he was alive. I just hope one day whoever bought him comes forward, I feel so terrible for Logan.
@aday1637 Жыл бұрын
I emailed the mayor of Tempe AZ regarding this case and the continuing lack of closure. I urge other's to do the same. Put the pressure where it will matter. The police need to stop sitting on their hands and get moving to find out this boys whereabouts. I wish both Logan and Gabriel well and want them at least given the chance at reuniting.
@allymally9605 3 жыл бұрын
I’m watching one year later maybe, 12/20. Googled an update and am heartbroken that there isn’t any new info. Let me at this woman...
@janaskibo871 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the shovel, and tarp
@thedarksiren9309 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me a bit of the Casey Anthony case. Both of the mothers were so narcissistic that they hated someone loving their child more than them and would rather get rid of the child out of spite than give the child to someone who would care for it properly.
@milkglassfairy7641 5 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to me! Whenever I tell my partner I love him I usually say ‘I love you more than anything... except the kids of course’ haha Nothing brings me more joy than seeing him with our kids and seeing how much he loves them. He loves his CHILDREN which is a different love than how you love your partner. I cannot fathom feeling jealous seeing your partner loving your children. Like they still love you!? I can’t understand it.
@briannafox3536 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought the same thing. It’s just so sickening and completely baffling to me. I’ve told my husband before that I would think less of him if he DIDNT love the kids more than me.
@AnaRodriguez-ip7sy 5 жыл бұрын
funny enough they were around the same time.
@kumimanufordycei 5 жыл бұрын
Yup it's disgusting. i'd also be willing to bet a lot of money she had post partem depression. My step mom had it and it's no joke. Hers and my dad's relationship turned into nothing but fighting (turning physical sometimes even) with her always accusing him of cheating, or loving me (a kid from a previous relationship aka a reminder he'd been with other women) more than her or my siblings, or even accusing him of still being in love with my mom, and this is just the short version lol. She never went this far thankfully but everything Elizabeth did before he disappeared and how she talked reminded me 100% of my step mom. All I know is Elizabeth needed therapy not 50% custody and Gabriel needed his dad :(. I just hope he's still out there happy and healthy and maybe one day when he's older he'll realize who he is and get back in contact with his dad
@EmiliusReturns 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. In this video all I can think of is “why doesn’t she just let the dad have him?” and with Casey Anthony I don’t understand why she didn’t just let her parents take custody of Caylee. In both cases it’s because they care more about themselves and been spiteful than they do about the kid.
@rebeccaabrams3079 5 жыл бұрын
I think she sold him - a healthy Caucasian blond/blue eye boy is highly sought after in LEGAL adoption markets. In illegal adoption markets I can only imagine he’d be verrryyy valuable, as sick as that sounds. I was adopted at birth myself and from what my parents have told me, the process is so intense and expensive, and the agency (at least in the 90s) interrogates and cross-examines potential adopters so harshly that my parents literally began to question whether they were good enough people to have a child. And they’re amazing parents! I can completely imagine someone not passing the legal adoption process but still being desperate to adopt a baby, and having the funds to do so (even legal adoptions are upwards of $20k) and just making risky and stupid decisions to get what they want.
@EmandEms 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he was most likely adopted and one can only hope that he is okay and with a descent family that does care about him like so many adoptive or foster parents are. But, if a family went through the trouble of doing this kind of adoption maybe they aren’t, who’s to say except for Gabriel or whatever his new name is. Hopefully one day he does see his father and can have some sort of relationship like so many adopted kids do.
@lisin4444 5 жыл бұрын
Well all most Caucasian babies have blond hair and blue eyes but yea
@durcheinander5554 5 жыл бұрын
laverna what? nooo, not at all. caucasian people come in all colors, so to say, when it comes to hair and eyes.
@camvin575 5 жыл бұрын
@@lisin4444 Yep, you're so wrong with that.
@AnonymousAnonymous-ir4ko 4 жыл бұрын
@@lisin4444 Umm..what? No, it's definitely more common, or should I say mostly caucasian people who have those features, but even in those people it's rarer than brown eyes and dark hair. I myself am caucasian with brown eyes and hair, so in my mom, so is my grandfather, so is one of my cousins. And my grandmother aunts and cousin all have green eyes. So I don't know where you're getting this from.
@india1422 3 жыл бұрын
She wanted the child adopted and the judge thought joint custody was a good idea???
@emilywillingham2188 2 жыл бұрын
As a mom of two littles, this makes me so unbelievably sad and scared for that little boy. I hope and pray that he is still alive and that maybe one day he will be reunited with his real Dad. I can’t imagine what Logan has gone through all these years.
@Mellovesdeep25 5 жыл бұрын
How have I never heard this story?! This should be as big as the Caylee Anthony story. This “mother” is despicable!
@sarahvand3628 5 жыл бұрын
It was? I'm in Australia and I heard about it when it happened.. Logan was on tv asking for information etc.. he was looking for his son alot
@mountaineermama8052 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard it either!
@l.t7481 5 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing this & followed it closely. Nancy Grace followed this story in 2008-09 or somewhere around there. What a disgusting person to sell her baby & bought of all things, a bunch of jewelry.
@peaceofearth13 5 жыл бұрын
If Six Flags is a known hotspot for these "transfers" I feel like the company has a responsibility to be in constant contact with authorities and just constantly handing over cctv footage to them. If your business is the known spot for this serious of a crime, unless you're involved, you should want to help out.
@palladium607 5 жыл бұрын
Yes great point!
@lezettegaxiola3650 5 жыл бұрын
Cameras and detectives should be placed at this theme park
@maggiemikus5073 4 жыл бұрын
aight so i work at this exact six flags and let me tell you we do have people watching the security cameras but there are tens of thousands of people who come every day in the summer and it would be very hard to find 2 specific people with a b aby in our park
@juliaversmissen9443 4 жыл бұрын
@@maggiemikus5073 true, and thats exactly why the recordings should be handed over.
@patstone3259 4 жыл бұрын
And will you pay 3 or 4 hundred dollars for the security needed to police that? Businesses have to stay in business to make money. The people will just move their business to the parking lot. Police that. They’ll move to ihop. Police that, they move again.
@ayydengreyy 3 жыл бұрын
personally I think she should still been jail, and stay there until Gabriel is found
@MsSlimFace Жыл бұрын
I have to wonder why the judge did not award Logan full custody. The entire reason they were in court was that Elizabeth wanted to put Gabriel up for adoption. How much clearer could it have been that she wanted nothing to do with the child, except for a tool to use control Logan? A gross miscarriage of justice. Rest in peace, little one. You are safe now.
@AliGiavanni 5 жыл бұрын
I am really hoping he is still alive and will be reunited with his father at some point
@sarahvand3628 5 жыл бұрын
Same :(
@222222ania 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think he is living a happy life with his new family. People who go to the underground adoption are usually just desperate people who want a child, they are rarely some sick motherfuckers.
@amandal3762 5 жыл бұрын
LiwiaGoszynska that’s not justified though...
@ashleelalasmith2792 5 жыл бұрын
LiwiaGoszynska he doesn’t belong to them
@LenaTate 5 жыл бұрын
LiwiaGoszynska they could also be human traffickers or use the kid as a slave so idk...
@butterflyforeve 5 жыл бұрын
When my oldest was in like 1st grade a little girl in his class started to tell us that her real name was such and such and we asked why she went by the name she went by, she told us her dad said we that's her new name. I had a serious panic attack, I went to the police and told them. The next day the girl wasn't at school, she never came back. I still believe that little girl was a parent abduction victim. The school nor the police could find anything on her.
@lisin4444 5 жыл бұрын
That's so scary...
@ofnevernevermore 5 жыл бұрын
It's great that you did something. So many people let things like that fall through the cracks.
@ashleelalasmith2792 5 жыл бұрын
What was her name? Did you look it up?
@DexiDadzie 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder where she is. Hopefully she’s safe and I’m glad you took action!
@jen5088 5 жыл бұрын
They could have been in witness protection. If the police enter her name and it came up they would have had to notify WITSEC, the family would have been relocated.
@amyrivers4093 2 жыл бұрын
When I was young I was diagnosed with an illness and I've had many complications ever since. I knew that I wasn't able to have biological children and it was hard as all I ever wanted was a husband and many children. My ex fiance abused me in any way possible and I never dated after that. Even though I wanted children I never thought of taking anyone's child illegally. I became a teacher and then a solo foster Mum. There are other ways to fulfill a maternal need. I'm really saddened by this story. Logan and your family you are in my prayers tonight. I live in New Zealand so all I can do is pray for your precious boy to come home. Xx
@alicjakola9696 3 жыл бұрын
That judge really messed up giving up 50/50 custody ,like why?! It’s obvious that Logan loved that child and wanted Gabriel and she didn’t want a thing to do with the child ! I pray that Gabriel is alive and well and that someday Logan and Gabriel can reunite 🦋❤️.The cops really didn’t do a great job on this case and maybe if they put in more effort from the start Gabriel could be at home with his dad 🥺
@carolsaulsbury5973 5 жыл бұрын
That judge was incredibly irresponsible and should have been censured over the outcome of this case.
@kelseycoca 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that judges have impunity makes for a lot of really unfortunate outcome for many cases, and judges aren't held responsible
@user_angelmum 3 жыл бұрын
He should be sacked and never allowed to pass judgement on any cases ever again
@marthakuzmenko3343 5 жыл бұрын
I really do believe that they'll find Gabriel alive one day. I hope he is in a loving family. Don't give up hope Logan!
@miyzanatta 5 жыл бұрын
He can't be, a loving family wouldn't buy and keep a child away from his father. A loving child wouldn't let this father hurt wondering if his boy is dead or alive just because they also love that kid, that is selfish af
@BrandyH-eh9up 5 жыл бұрын
Leticia Zanatta some people are so desperate for children they will do anything to have one
@mollyoshea5484 5 жыл бұрын
Leticia Zanatta some illegal adoptions seem legit to parents the private adoption system is very shady
@oharriet4666 3 жыл бұрын
When a mother gives out so many clear signs that she doesn't want her child, YOU DON'T GIVE HER CUSTODY! Omfg! Wtf is wrong with people????
@cefoye 2 жыл бұрын
She never should have been given ANY custody. That she wanted to give him up for adoption shows that she does not want any parental rights. WHY would they put that child in HER custody at all??
@sidnees5955 5 жыл бұрын
He’s a blonde haired blue eyed baby-there is no doubt in my mind he was apart of an under ground adoption.
@cjmchugh6917 5 жыл бұрын
Poor, poor Logan. I'm absolutely heartbroken for him. I can't even imagine, man.
@kieramcgregor 4 жыл бұрын
Omg definitely 🥺
@AngelDeed 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Logan shouldn't have forced her to keep the baby. This is why women shouldn't be forced to have kids and why abortion should be legal everywhere.
@presley-dj8nv 4 жыл бұрын
Klara yeah i thought about that. she KNEW she didn't want to have a child and this could've been avoided by him letting her get an abortion. That doesn't change the fact that selling/killing your child is not okay though.
@TheAtl198 4 жыл бұрын
@@AngelDeed THANK YOU!! This is so damn true.
@stephaniek1076 4 жыл бұрын
I'm most heartbroken for Gabriel.
@SkylarStullerSilverstar 3 жыл бұрын
The father needs to put his dna into the GED match so the son may find him later at least.
@gmv254 2 жыл бұрын
I just feel in my heart Gabriel was adopted and she told Logan he died so he wouldn’t try to look for him just to further hurt him. I pray he’s with a happy family and can see his dad again at some point ❤️
@makaylaboswell1854 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe she was so insecure that he loved their son more than her. LADY THAT CHILD IS HALF YOURS?! What a blessing to have a father that loves your child so much. This case makes me so angry. Logan should've been given full custody right off the bat.
@Isirian 3 жыл бұрын
Abusers are often jealous of their own kids, because they believe they should be the center of everything.
@tak4832 3 жыл бұрын
@@Isirian I was about to say, my abusive drunkard father often lashed out at my mother for paying to much attention to me and my siblings.
@laughingcorrpseholly4136 Жыл бұрын
When I heard that the look on my face was 🥴 like “you’re paranoid if he loves the baby more than you?! Woman! That is what you SHOULD want from the father of YOUR child!!!” My favorite picture of my son and my husband is the day that our son was born and he first held him and the look on my husbands face is just pure joy and surprise and I can see tears in his eyes and it still makes me so happy til this day almost 11 years later. My husband was raised in foster care as well and had been abandoned by his mother and while he had his own issues growing up he always always wanted a family and I’m just happy that I was able to give him a son and a family that he always wanted. ❤
@margaretmac50 Жыл бұрын
Your right a loving father, what more could any mother want.
@lovemelissa2540 4 жыл бұрын
Why give custody to a mother when she don’t want her child like she wanted to put the kid up for adoption and you want to give her half custody she ain’t even want the child at all like damn why the system keep failing these kids
@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын
And her words to Logan on that call are just horrendous. She is so self-centered and prefers to blame Logan for what she may have done to Gabriel
@alysonford8491 3 жыл бұрын
So true, when I worked in child protection (for a short time) I was told by someone that a desire to be a parent was the NUMBER ONE predictor of child safety. She didn't want him, the courts messed up so hard.
@lovemelissa2540 3 жыл бұрын
Alyson Ford being a parent is natural not trying to be one when you know you don’t want to be that’s sick smh
@shainaharp3606 3 жыл бұрын
The judge smokes crack in chambers? Or he’s just a obtuse dumbass. Or both.
@caitdesch 3 жыл бұрын
Because the system is biased against fathers. It takes a lot to prove you are a good dad and so little to look like a bad one. It takes so little for a mom to be a good mom and a lot for them to be a bad one. The system will always choose the mother unfortunately.
@shayg2373 3 жыл бұрын
Well the judge should be held accountable as well bc if a person blatantly say "i don't want my kid" give the child to the parent who does and leave it at that!
@aromaladyellie Жыл бұрын
I hope baby Gabriel is found alive and well. I’m disgusted by the people who “adopted” him if he was. I hope Elizabeth just said he was dead to hurt Logan and not that she murdered him.
@kdavis103 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that she’s constantly saying “you made me do this” is just farther proof that narcissists can’t take responsibility for their actions. No one “makes” you do anything unless they’re directly putting your life in danger. I can’t even BELIEVE the judge gave 50/50 did they not specify that she had problems with being around the baby, had no maternal instinct and didn’t want him to begin with? She should have been made to sign her rights away and Gabriel should have been given to his father
@CeltycSparrow 4 жыл бұрын
That, to me, says that maybe she DID go to Texas to give Gabriel up for adoption....She clearly didn't want her child. She wanted desperately to give him up for adoption. And when she ran away, it wasn't to somewhere safe and familiar....it was to San Antonio Texas. And that just HAPPENS to be the hot spot for illegal adoptions. She went to Six Flags with her 1 yr old son....(she had no reason to be here). I think she handed him off to another family and "went to start her new life alone) like she said. And her narcissistic and cruel mind thought to hurt Logan in the cruelest and most painful way by telling him that Gabriel WAS dead...in a dumpster....when she knew all along that he was with another family. She lied about flying out of the country. Whose to say she's not lying about this?
@jessicawatson7360 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not true, you’ve no idea! Maybe there was emotional abuse going on. ‘Force’ isn’t only done by violence.
@kdavis103 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica Watson no one can “make” anyone feel any type of way or DO anything unless through threat of violence it’s very common for manipulative people to say “you MADE me do this!” Or “you MADE me feel that” when it’s no one’s responsibility for others actions or emotions. What she was doing was manipulative emotionally and guilt tripping. Abusers commonly do this especially women who are abusive because society and other women praise them for it for “being so strong” it’s gross. Not every woman I’d a victim of abuse some of them are abusive and a lot of people don’t like to hear it
@melissaycarlos4970 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure she felt like her husband was being taken away by her baby but i see It the total opposite way!
@kdaily7698 3 жыл бұрын
Such a narcissist. She’s constantly gaslighting him I can’t stand this broad.
@LeahPrescott 5 жыл бұрын
I think she did sell him but the judge should’ve given Logan all the custody bc she didn’t what him. The police really let Gabriel and Logan down. I’m so angry.
@k8tallison250 4 жыл бұрын
My ex-husband didn't want anything to do with our daughter. I filed for full custody, he told the judge he didn't want anything to do with her. Judge gave us shared custody, I had primary physical. BUT, he had supervised visitation. Because of this I spent 5 YEARS taking my daughter to a visitation center every Wednesday and every other weekend. He never showed up once. I HAD to show up or I would've been held in contempt of the court order. Such a waste of my time.
@aquamini4940 4 жыл бұрын
Katherine Pietras wow that’s crazy, after the first year of him not showing up shouldn’t they have canceled his visitation??
@Maya-dw5jz 4 жыл бұрын
That is messed up, does he still have shared custody? Similar thing happened to my aunt but she has tel children he acknowledges and meets the first child but the second child he refused to acknowledge her as his daughter because he didnt want her and wanted my aunty to have a abortion. They are separated and the judge gave them both shared custody of both children, the oldest was able to go stay with him every other weekend and meet him every sunday whereas he had only visitation rights but he would never come to my aunts house or go anywhere to meet up and my aunt would notify the family unison? Of this matter and they cancelled his visitation rights since he didnt bother but continued his shared custody with the oldest child
@dwightschrute8726 4 жыл бұрын
The police have nothing to do with a judge’s ruling, and typically when police don’t act right away it’s because there is some sort of restriction or time frame that must pass before they can act.
@traceymcdonald7949 2 жыл бұрын
It's a "civil issue" is what they tell you. If the other parent takes off with your child you have to go to court and ask a judge to enter a pick up order for the child/children. What is even more astonishing is that even when there is a court order stating that you have full custody the cops will still refuse to get involved unless a judge orders them to... Even tho that is what custody papers are! Signed orders from a judge stating that they want you to have custody... After you spend a fortune getting custody you still have to hire an attorney and file more motions. It's all maddening
@gothicgramma 3 жыл бұрын
all i want is for gabriel to be home and safe with his father who loves him so much and always will. i just pray that whoever out there that has him is treating him will all of the love that he could get because he deserves every bit of it and more
@tove236 5 жыл бұрын
She's the clearest example of a narcissist I've ever seen. Everything is about her. Noone else matters.
@emilytaylor166 5 жыл бұрын
TMR and borderline personality, like down to a T.
@yoongistongue4163 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Plus she's a sociopath.
@jessicawilson4655 4 жыл бұрын
I have borderline personality, if you do your research someone with borderline is incapable of being a narcissist. So stop trying to diagnose mental illness on KZfaq when you have literally no clue what you're talking about!
@tarajh 4 жыл бұрын
Textbook narcissist.
@SuperLayluh 4 жыл бұрын
@@emilytaylor166 Nah just Narcissist. Borderline she would have killed the dad instead. My opinion.... not fact..... before I get attacked.
@straybeans143 5 жыл бұрын
I believe she traded him for the ring, how else would she have gotten a $20,000 ring?
@bestofsmall 5 жыл бұрын
that's what I think too if she had killed him where did the ring come from?
@straybeans143 5 жыл бұрын
@@bestofsmall Exactly!!
@patstone3259 5 жыл бұрын
She could have stolen it, or shook her butt at the right guy for it. Yes, it’s a possibility, but there are other possibilities.
@emradford5173 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@patriciatrapman5494 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of this story until now. So it's a blessing you are on here doing these stories to make those who don't watch T.V or pay attention to the news creating awareness to these sad situations.
@sierrahsharp8518 3 жыл бұрын
The whole US custody system is trash. The mother can be neglecting the child and not feeding them and still have full custody. It is ridiculous.
@nikkirabie7921 4 жыл бұрын
They should keep her in jail until they find the baby!!! How is it fair that she is free while he is gone?
@christieflores3876 3 жыл бұрын
Same with Lori Vallow
@dmnovak66 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Bet she’d be more willing to talk if that was her only way out of prison
@straybeans143 5 жыл бұрын
She won't give any information just to spite Logan.
@jodiekelly1355 5 жыл бұрын
100% I think the reason she won't reveal his whereabouts is because she doesn't want Logan to get him back
@straybeans143 5 жыл бұрын
@@jodiekelly1355 exactly
@sueloo8305 3 жыл бұрын
I am only 2:00 in, and as a mother myself, with 4 children (who BTW, SURVIVED into adulthood and are THRIVING), believe that cases that involve HURTING CHILDREN IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM should be eligible for PUBLIC LYNCHING. Vigilante justice you ask?? My answer to that ..is....HELL TO THE YES!! Sorry ABSOLUTELY NOT SORRY!! Much love to you and your fam from Danelle, from the Middleton's in Michigan 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@LouisianaSaturdayNight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do. Can we ask Logan to submit his DNA to Ancestry or 23andMe? In the event Gabriel is found or looks one day for his family,, the DNA could connect them.
@jessicarussell7934 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly seeing that Elizabeth didn’t want that baby the judge in that court room should’ve given Logan full custody 😡 makes me mad they gave them both 50/50 when she was there to give him up for adoption in the first place 🤷🏼♀️
@melissabearden950 4 жыл бұрын
Something similar happened with us! My husbands ex wife ran across country with his baby. It took 4 years thousands and thousands of dollars and amber alerts to have a family member reach out and tell us they were in a homeless shelter in Arizona. Someone always knows something!!
@BlendedBarbieDoll 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry this happened to your step child and your family. So many years lost
@betlea8070 3 жыл бұрын
💔
@jojosurrayyah 2 жыл бұрын
No one cares about your sob story. This isn't about you
@mentallydisturbedllama473 Жыл бұрын
Gosh I'm so sorry. Sending so much love to you and your family.
@Speghettiyeti 3 жыл бұрын
I think Tammie and Elizabeth are "faking" their phone call, possibly knowing it's being recorded.
@kristinatk7553 3 жыл бұрын
I freaking LOVE your passion and authenticity in how you tell this story. People...WAKE UP and pay attention to what's really going in in our world and our world of responsibility.
@rachaelstewart3497 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this woman. I cannot believe the judicial system. Why is her freedom without knowledge of his safety and whereabouts ok? BYW your hair looks amazing!!!
@laceyjade9834 5 жыл бұрын
Rachael Stewart that’s what I’m saying! I don’t know how the law was broke down to the jury. I know sometimes what they are given can be extremely twisted. It seems pretty cut & dry that she kidnapped him due to the fact Logan had custody as well & now he never gets to see his son again because of her. It’s nerve wracking & makes my blood boil to know the pain that he is enduring & having no support from the courts. She did what she wanted & got exactly what she wanted without any real repercussions. It’s sick!
@lindseymayfield5158 5 жыл бұрын
Are you telling me that a judge gave her 50% custody even though he knew she didn’t want her baby.. what in the hell 🤨
@skylermay2855 4 жыл бұрын
In Michigan even if the mom doesn't want custody they make them have it , like I know a girl who wanted to give full custody to her mom and the dad wasn't involved at all but the court would only grant 50/50 with the mom ... It's because they want to keep making money from child support 🙄 it's so dumb
@TheCALIGIRL55 4 жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for Logan, I have faith he will one day meet his son again. Much love and hope for that family
@kayleeduke2890 3 жыл бұрын
It's difficult learning you are adopted period, but learning you were adopted ILLEGALLY and your father has been out there looking for you your entire life is a whole other story. I can't even imagine!
@sarmajere2866 5 жыл бұрын
She had to have traded him for that ring. I only pray that the people who "adopted" him are treating him well, and that he's not been since 'rehomed' or sold into prostitution or anything else. The sad truth is that he could be literally ANYWHERE, especially with the lack of documentation. This is super scary and horrifying.
@MistySophie 5 жыл бұрын
To the family of Gabriel: Dont lose hope. There were cases, when abducted children came back home. Yes, the years that went by are forever lost, but someday someone , or even Gabriel himself, will find out and finally will bring the last piece to this broken puzzle. Keep spreading this case. It's always the key
@4u2cpooka 3 жыл бұрын
I live in San Angelo, Texas..... I have never heard of this case. Saying that “of course they know they have this boy because it was highly publicized” is taking a leap. I, personally am very bad with faces so I could have seen this boy everyday and not know who he is.
@teresarobinson1219 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Danelle! I just started watching your CHANNEL last week and the heart, time, and EFFORTS you bring in sharing these cases is truly a hour of my time I take with true dedication. Tonight really made me see how much you care, to hear you talk about your children with so much love. I have,no idea how Elizabeth could carry that precious gift, labor, and not have one ounce of mother in Her. Logan I'm so very very sorry you didn't and haven't been able to be WITH your son. It breaks my heart to know Gabriel has such a great dad and FAMILY. But one thing I do know is that your son will find you, He will find out the truth as THEY always do. It may not be on our time, but GOD'S time He will know you. My prayers are with you and family, Danelle thank you for being an advocate to all those who fall victim to such senseless and heartless people. Looking forward to watching your next case. God Bless.
@Amy-fg6in 5 жыл бұрын
I’m holding my son who turns 8 months old today and that phone call made me nauseous. I don’t understand how anyone could do that 😩
@chubbywife8617 5 жыл бұрын
Amy I don’t have kids of my own just lots of nieces and nephews, that call made me sick too! The calm spiteful tone in her voice was chilling and stomach turning. That had to be hard to listen to while holding your baby boy! Congratulations on your little one, and best wishes to you!
@cowsgrowontrees980 5 жыл бұрын
And its SUCH a beautiful age. They are past the 'tiny baby' stage, usually sleeping well, curious, smiley. Gorgeous
@Amy-fg6in 5 жыл бұрын
Chubby Wife thank you so much 💙 I have stage 4 endometriosis (tmi, I’m sorry!) but the only reason I was able to have him is because of 9 rounds of chemotherapy that almost took my life so I feel very very blessed. I panic when he’s standing on his own and I’m terrified anything will happen to him so this just blows me away. I truly hope he’s safe and loved 😭 It definitely makes me hold him tighter
@Amy-fg6in 5 жыл бұрын
cows grow on trees yes! So happy and wanting to learn about everything and play all the time. I’m so excited for the day when we can get him a swing set and take him to the park. This is devastating 😔
@chubbywife8617 5 жыл бұрын
Amy You’re welcome! I have stage 3 endometriosis myself. I’ve had two rounds of Lupron and three surgeries so far. I have some idea of what you must have gone through and still go through. God bless you and extra congratulations on your little miracle!!
@evie4859 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so incredibly bad for Logan and Gabriel. Can’t even imagine this happening to a father.❤️
@nikikramerfreeman1803 5 жыл бұрын
Me too and the courts should have seen this coming when she wanted to give him up for adoption when he broke up with her
@sarahvand3628 5 жыл бұрын
It is a heartbreaking case 😭
@QueenBee-kx3sg 3 жыл бұрын
My God. How did she get joint custody? She wanted an abortion, to adopt Gabriel out, she didn’t comfort him while he cried? That makes me so sad. Also, you look absolutely beautiful in this video. You’re always beautiful but you’re glowing today. 😀
@Hearth123 3 жыл бұрын
I get extremely happy and content when my husband shows affection to our kids, I can't imagine feeling jealous of that love, it's a totally different kind of love. Also, courts are extremely biased against fathers, my mother is extremely mentally ill, she's been institutionalized 3 times, she was found walking barefoot in the snow because she was trying to feel the earth, she thinks her dog can sniff Nazi DNA, she has religious delusions, she's got a laundry list of diagnoses and meds etc. A court still gave her unsupervised visits with my youngest brother. My dad has tried to get full custody several times, he had her on tape assaulting him at a bank where he was and she showed up and the judge said my dad should have ran away faster and denied his request.
@Fun4u5678123 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope he’s alive now and can be reunited with his father. He’s nearly missed his son’s childhood. I hope he can be with his father for at least his teenage years
@kaitlynpryor3498 3 жыл бұрын
They still haven't found him
@catherineparis8678 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he'll do an ancestry DNA test and find out the truth
@Lindseyisloony 4 жыл бұрын
People DON'T say they murdered their baby if they actually gave them up for adoption.
@user-it8tb6el1k 3 жыл бұрын
this is one of those cases where i'm so certain this kid is still alive, but living under a new name with a new family. i really hope this a julian hernandez type situation, where he discovers the truth at some point and is reunited with his poor father. elizabeth should be locked away and i can't believe the authorities aren't pressing for more information from her.
@girlypanache7095 5 жыл бұрын
As a person born and raised in San Antonio, I can attest to the likelihood of anyone finding a baby's body in the landfill to be almost 0%. San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the US... The landfill is larger than most people probably imagine (unfortunately). Very sad situation.
@jalaa4524 5 жыл бұрын
San Antonio is h u g e and just generally has some 'bad' areas
@derpdirt 5 жыл бұрын
GirlyPanache my thoughts exactly. There was a homicide in my city and the killer confessed and disposed of her body in the dump. A search was done for weeks but her body was never found.
@laura987123 5 жыл бұрын
Sad but true, it's a needle in a haystack situation trying to find a body in even a smaller landfill let alone a landfill for an enormous city.
@misslissa11 5 жыл бұрын
So so sad!
@shajeahar7374 5 жыл бұрын
I commented earlier, I was born and raised in San Antonio and I’ve never heard of this. I was floored.
@taliat1971 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what this father has been through. This is horrifying.
@kaitlynpryor3498 3 жыл бұрын
I know. I know that him and his family and me think he's alive.
@rebekahhillis2973 2 жыл бұрын
I am a newer subscriber and am just now getting to watch this video. It was posted two years ago so I google searched this case to see if there were any updates on baby Gabriel.. only to find that Elizabeth had another baby in July of this year. My heart sank when I found out. My stomach is in so many knots. She is an absolutely disgusting person.. I hope and pray that baby stays safe. 🙏 ❤
@kaylahsylvester5740 4 жыл бұрын
Its sooo sad when there is SOOO much sloppy investigative work on cases like these... anything involving an INFANT should be handled as quickly as possible ALWAYS...
@ashleycollins5189 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao... Tammy says she didn't think what she was doing was illegal. Ok lady
@lilablue14 5 жыл бұрын
Ashley Collins she knows what she was doing was illegal she just playing stupid
@lizhagler1398 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly “here let me just forge some COURT documents, nothing illegal going on here!” Ridiculous she thinks she can play stupid but if the tip about the possible link to the boy they believe to be Gabriel with a relationship with Tammy will come back to bite her.
@cayleighmadison6715 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Tammi is guilty for sure. Did anyone else catch the “we are going to sue you for not keeping your mouth shut” ?
@barbaraceli4782 4 жыл бұрын
Cayleigh Madison I fully agree. Tammi KNOWS
@jordanspencer2092 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I heard that.
@Slightly_Classy Жыл бұрын
It bothers me that female abusers get labeled as acting out of anger, resentment, or mental illness rather than just being called abusive. This woman was a nightmare.
@lauren8656 3 жыл бұрын
This is so heartbreaking my heart goes out to Gabriel and those that love him, especially his father. Sending my love.
@vihaze6725 4 жыл бұрын
If she didn't want the child, all she had to do was give him to his father. It was that simple.
@annalynnbrown4581 4 жыл бұрын
That is a sane caring person's response. She wanted to hurt Logan as much as she possibly could!
@bekaanderson5122 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly she tried. Judge still gave 50/50 custody. 😑
@shadygirlxoxo 3 жыл бұрын
She wanted to hurt Logan as much as she possibly could.
@shainaharp3606 3 жыл бұрын
She was mad at Logan for MAKING her have to baby. She was gonna get her revenge and she did that.
@kyramannix3950 3 жыл бұрын
She tried. The court said half and half
@jenavievemaria 4 жыл бұрын
logan: never give up. elizabeth: disgusting. i’m speechless. tammy: there’s more than you’re telling. anyone who knows something: come forward. leave an anonymous tip. bring gabriel home. gabriel: we love you beautiful baby boy.
@sarahwhaley3110 2 жыл бұрын
i LOVE how passionate you got at the end of this case. Its something you don't see much of in the True Crime community and its really refreshing to humanise this whole category more and express emotions- Thank you! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@laurena5502 3 жыл бұрын
im an international adoptee from an orphanage in romania i was 1 of 11 kids in my birth family and my poor family just couldnt afford to take care of us . but our government was run by a man who wouldnt allow birth control or abortions. our birthmom was still visiting us everyday and making sure we went to good people. but in romania and other european countries kids are given away fro money or organs or given up or adopted to sex traffickers its a problem and one im studyingin school and working to change in the future.
@merediva6069 5 жыл бұрын
There was a comment below from someone asking if he was born in May and if she could send a picture of him... please tell me you contacted her? The comment is gone now, but I screen grabbed it!!!
@heatherpoole6642 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome you screen shot it!
@merediva6069 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! It kept saying Server Error when I tried to respond, so I figured it had been deleted since every comment around it was able to be replied to. I wad afraid to refresh my screen and lose it so I SS it! It gave me chills because the person asked if there was somewhere she could send Danelle a picture of a child she believed could be baby Gabriel! I wish I new Danelle saw the comment and reached out to her. If you see this, Danelle, let me know, please! I have literally lost sleep over this!!!
@adylan612 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can send the screen shot to her twitter?
@nicolelivingstone6141 5 жыл бұрын
We need to try and get this to danelle!!! X
@nicolelivingstone6141 5 жыл бұрын
Just a quick thing think about it if he was born in May and that happened in December and he was 7 month old it would fit!!
@krystal9729 5 жыл бұрын
Side note who even “jokes” about killing their child/8 month old baby just to spite their ex. She needed psychological help and now look where we are.
@Rachmcktus 4 жыл бұрын
Praying for Gabriel and Logan. That is so heart breaking. I hope something comes to light.
@DeviousDayDreamer Жыл бұрын
The absolutely disgusting part is that she now has a new baby, a little girl. She’s also changed her name for the second time. Now she’s Naomi Aragon. She changed it the first time to Elizabeth Martinez.
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