NMEA2000 and Raymarine SeaTalk NG Networking

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This video explains what NMEA networks are for and how they work. It then goes through installing a Raymarine Sea Talk NG network onto my boat Renko STNG is an NMEA2000 compatible network.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction to NMEA Networking
8:00 Start of physcial installation
25:52 Checking the devices are all appearing
28:10 Powering the backbone (LEN ratings)

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@mckrunchytoast2469 2 жыл бұрын

I guess waking up at 4am est on my downtime does have a payoff now! I get to watch something else from my favorite KZfaq mariner

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy! And sleep well afterwards. :)

@mckrunchytoast2469 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine it was a wonderful video. Never lacking in quality, always informative on things I had never heard of. Been around the sea all my life and love deep-sea fishing so it's always fascinating learning things like this. Fair winds and following seas to you all!

@ibid49 2 жыл бұрын

Watching Dangar Stu's latest. Gloss over his typical intro, waiting for the good stuff. Brain hears, "Today, we're going to be installing an Enemy A.I. onto Renko, and it's proudly sponsored by..." Wait. what?!

@MarkKrebs 2 жыл бұрын

Not far wrong! : ) I'm a big fan though & would recommend this to anybody. I've put CAN into airplanes and satellites. The boating companies have got it cleanly figured out though, no rocket science required, with NMEA 2k and this hardware. An important thing to know is that NMEA is the language spoken on boats, and the CANbus harnessing is the hardware. You will likely have some hardware gender-bender type problems if you mix and match the hardware flavors Mare-tron devicenet and and SeaTalkng for example. With a lot of experience, I nevertheless found translating between the two hardware paradigms to be a brain-twister. Oh, and remember this J-1939 is NOT compatible (...but you can get a converter.)

@rolandtb3 2 жыл бұрын

Demystifying boat devices' communications. Simplified version 101. Well done. Looking forward to the next instructional session - AIS.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.

@belyandopl Жыл бұрын

Okay Danger man. You know its got to be "Grounding, Grinding and Bonding" sometime soon after this Episode!!

@belyandopl Жыл бұрын

Sorry DANGAR MAN

@DangarMarine Жыл бұрын

Grounding and bonding is a very interesting topic I've had many chats with Jon from Raymarine about. It feels like a bit of a black art, so much to learn!

@graemethomson5167 2 жыл бұрын

yes ..Watching Stu talking Tech I last about 8mins,then out like a light Best bedtime stories ever if you want a good night's sleep It takes about 4 nights to watch one program thanks Stu

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. It's a service I provide to insomniacs. :D

@rootsblowersanddetroits7419 2 жыл бұрын

For non boat owner and not familiar with the system, it very cool And like how user friendly it seams !!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Much easier to connect the wires than the hydraulic lines we put in!

@MattKellyFishing 2 жыл бұрын

Mate - keep the tech vids coming! This is great!!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, glad you enjopyed. :)

@commander_lard 2 жыл бұрын

Having been working in shore based networking for 20 years, this is fascinating - never knew how it was done in marine and makes perfect sense now!

@19Loretta69 11 ай бұрын

Very good explanation how to install N2K-network.

@SeahawkSailor 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Excellent summary of connecting devices. Please consider a video adding nmea sensors (temp, oil pressure, cooling water, or tach) to the Detroit, and networked into the system. Amazing amount of nmea sensors now available for just about anything. Old school (Detroit Desiel) meets new school (nmea 2000).

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff, yes, I would do add some sensors to the Detroit and gearbox too!

@MarkKrebs 2 жыл бұрын

This is me. I've got old detroits and they have no digital sensing. There are two choices: all new transducers, or a converter. I picked the Alba-combi unit which is a converter. The reason is that all the sensors are installed on the engine already, and harnessed up to the bridge. There's nothing wrong with analog sensors, and the tough part, fishing all the cable, is already done, and the expensive part (all the gauges for two helms and two engines) is sunk cost. So what do I even want? I want the computer alarms to watch oil pressure, coolant temp, exhaust manifold temp etc etc. all the time, so I don't have to. I could lose an engine because i"m drinking a beer instead of watching water temp. the converter will take all the gauge inputs and stick them on the N2k network so the chartplotter display can alarm them.

@petergibson6563 2 жыл бұрын

Beautifully explained as always! Well done, love your videos.

@davidvanhooton5790 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent material presented in a clear and understandable way…. Thank you so much. I like the technical side of things. David

@Bill23799 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stu for the interesting video. You know that when " Skynet " takes over the world this is how they will take control of Renko.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

At least it will make for a good video. ;)

@beaulster 2 жыл бұрын

That was an excellent video. Thank you for putting that together. I currently have 1 Ray MFD and 1 radar. No backbone. I’m wanting an AIS next. So I’m excited to hear how this works and what to do. Thanks again.

@bartvannimmen 2 жыл бұрын

Another nice and instructive video Stu, Thx for your version of the KISS principle Keep It Simple and Straight. 👌

@robertrousseau5264 2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad to see you back on the air and on You Tube this is Bob from Vero beach Fla. God bless and stay safe and have a great day

@richardwarner4308 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to see you doing videos again keep up good videos

@PittwaterMowing 2 жыл бұрын

Great rundown on the NMEA system Thanks Stu

@TheOakRoom 2 жыл бұрын

My absolute favourite type of content. Geek on good sir!

@endangeredmarmot4518 2 жыл бұрын

Really well done technical video, Stu. Interesting stuff.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

@rododonnell9783 2 жыл бұрын

Really well explained, I now have a greater understanding, thank you

@Pappajack44 2 жыл бұрын

This could be called NMEA for dummies. Some really great incites into how great Renko looks now after the time at Bunderburg. Made my Sunday morning. Thanks Stu.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed. :)

@markolav70 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible mate. Amazing how functional and helpful the manufacturers have made it since the early days. Stay safe and hope the weather settles down soon 🙏👍

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thank mate. Me too!

@gregorythomas333 2 жыл бұрын

That is a really nice system...I'm thinking back to when I was first introduced to radar :) Ah...Daisy finally has someone she can pick on & run off!

@garyrogerson4647 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, enjoy the tech!

@ThoughtfulWander 2 жыл бұрын

This is a lot like the old token ring networks.. Pretty cool thanks for the video!

@deepblued 2 жыл бұрын

And that was a REALLY comprehensive video of the subject! Thank you!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@assassinlexx1993 2 жыл бұрын

This is great show and understand video Stu. If there is a way improve safety navigating the water. Then this is a must.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it certainly gives me a lot of confidence heading into unfamiliar waterways and doing night passages.

@paulsayers4387 2 жыл бұрын

Hey stu very impressive electronics. Brupeg will be very envious. Travel safe stu. Regards Paul from Bathurst NSW

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@AlisonFort 2 жыл бұрын

Lovely to see Daffy and Daisy❤️

@jeremykamel9655 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you back!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy. :)

@dinsdalepiranah8759 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Will bookmark this video for when I upgrade.

@wallyfirkins1664 2 жыл бұрын

Stu, you are a great teacher. You make the complex easy for this dummy to understand. (Kind of). Good to see you again!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wally!

@clinty51 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Gold Coast Stu, I couldn't believe it when Renko popped up on my AIS app, hope the popular anchorage you have treats you well in these winds...If you see some random waving from the shore tomorrow, that might be me...Really looking forward to your AIS episode, I have special interest in that...safe voyages

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clint. It's certainly been windy but even with being open to the south no really waves have been coming into the bay so all good so far.

@parkerdriggers8540 2 жыл бұрын

Working for the US Coast Guard as an electronics technician, they trained me on both systems since some vessels still utilize nmea 183. 2000 is so much simpler and reliable in my experience. Great video Stu.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

For sure. 2000 is definitely a much simpler and more capable setup.

@snoopstp4189 Жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine definitely one of the best overviews of the Raymarine 2knet, by both you and the Raymarine rep.

@MotoVloggedOUT 2 жыл бұрын

Yay more Dangar videos!!!

@gr8wings Жыл бұрын

Great explanation, very useful ! Thanks

@davidhall1779 2 жыл бұрын

excellant presentation. When I did mine Several years ago I neglected one important aspect, I never made up a diagram of my system or labeled any of my cables, and now have forgotten which devices are connected where. Ill have to go back and trace everything again. love the system though.

@JeremyVeleber 2 жыл бұрын

Good one, Stu. I enjoy these. The Raymarine guy (can't remember his name, sorry) does a great job of filling in details.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, yes, Jon really does know his stuff, it's great talking to him about this technology. :)

@HyperionMV 2 жыл бұрын

Love these technical explanations. It would be awesome to have well produced and simply explained (like this one) videos about various systems and concepts in a properly categorized playlist. They are invaluable to us owner/operators. The fact that it’s you on your boat and not a manufacturer or even a vendor shilling the product is key. Stew, we like you because although the Ray Marine guy is there to sell product (nothing wrong there) we know you won’t let him feed us some BS. In fact, I’m sure, if they know you, they simply won’t even try any BS to begin with. If you end up getting some kit free or at a discount, no harm done.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. It's been great working with John. He is very technically knowledgeable and a nice guy to boot!

@TR4zest 2 жыл бұрын

I am not sure about a categorised playlist but Mads at Sail Life youtube channel has packed his sailboat with the most amazing array of technology nerworked therough NMEA. I think John from Ray Marine is on the technical side, not sales, so I am not sure he is about selling anything. Funny you have an obsession with being fed BS when he is clealy there sharing knowledge.

@waynecummins9713 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see the back 😀 again 🇬🇧

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wayne!

@digitalta 2 жыл бұрын

I did quite a few hours of research on NMEA in 2020 after buying a boat but still got more info out of this video. While the Raymarine dude (and I guess you too) went a couple levels further in the specifics of the tech than most people would ever need almost all of it was still very interesting and I did learn a couple new things from him too. Thanks!

@digitalta 2 жыл бұрын

There was, however, a worrying lack of beer in this video.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

There's a Coopers hiding in there somewhere. ;)

@digitalta 2 жыл бұрын

Ah right, went back for a quick browse and found it (for anyone else wondering 4:30 ). all good then.

@stevenholton438 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff! I had no idea and I consider myself awake!

@davidwoods7720 2 жыл бұрын

orgasmic...........Remember when we started with this in the offshore world in the early 80's

@johnduncan9749 2 жыл бұрын

Really nice set up. The Detroit controls being mechanical you can try using some electric over air valves to work trans and throttle. I'm sure that Detroit has a place for an air compressor to run off the bull gear.

@michaellacey7303 2 жыл бұрын

great vid Stu, thanks.

@frodo748 Жыл бұрын

Great video mate. 👍

@stephenreardon2205 Жыл бұрын

I learnt more watching this than chat GPT could offer! Awesome

@romershaw3798 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Thank you!

@martinworrall5888 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Stu, you have fried my brain 😫good to see the chickens again 👌

@ianslow1234 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Stu. Thanks for the vid

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Any time!

@RoadhogRNA 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Stu!!!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate.

@TheRealMrCods 2 жыл бұрын

Hey you are sitting in one of my fishing spots, Sorry I havent had a chance to come see you and take some photos Stu, I guess you will eventually get to leave for home......maybe lol

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

When the wind stops!

@RangieNZ 2 жыл бұрын

Raymarine advert or not, this is an awesome video explaining stuff Stu.

@arjovenzia 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope Raymarine gave him a good kickback ;-) some pretty swanky kit. Id want those toys. im not jealous **shifty eyes**. most marine tech systems are pretty similar these days, its a good way to do things, and the parts are off the shelf (for the manufacturer). on ya Stu, thanks bud

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

There is always so much new stuff to learn!

@wilbertbirdner1303 2 жыл бұрын

I was going to make a comment about CAN bus, but you already covered it.

@robfaith6029 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Stue, going back a couple of episodes you mentioned about you would have liked a bigger boat, not being able to sleep because I'm just an old bloke it came to me in the middle of the night. perhaps you could extend the rear deck by 1200mm, the deck only no the hull, and support it with a couple of triangle braces, you could then extend your cabin by about 450mm this would be a fairly easy modification. Of course this just a thought that I had. I enjoy your weekly updates.

@seawench555 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stu, really informative and even I understood it sought of😆. Renko looking good, loved the way u jumped up the top via ur new ladder very swish. Table looks good too, you've come so far since u bought her Hey! ? the flexible conduit piping black, where can I get it, I need about 10m, can't find it anywhere, it's the best stuff for cables on a boat. I enjoyed the episodes with Adrian, Damo and Jess on Brupeg top stuff, thanks again safe trip home.🇦🇺😉 Glad chooks are doing great I'm sure they miss u when u travelling.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

That conduit is actually leftover bilge pump outlet hose that I had from the workshop. :)

@seawench555 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine Thanks mate it's bloody good stuff, but so f hard to find.😎

@steveshoemaker6347 2 жыл бұрын

I have been wondering how you are doing Stu....lt is good to see👀 you doing OK🤩....l like this kind of thing the best on boats the best....l guess cause l have been an Amature Radio (HAM) for about 65 years now...look's like you got an awesome setup on your boat🤓.....Thanks very much....Cheers🍺🍻🥂

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I've been looking into getting my Amateur Radio license lately. :)

@andreasbackstrom6435 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying NMEA and not Nema. Great vid!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

In my mind it is always "Enemy A" I'm not sure who "Enemy B" is though. ;)

@amascia8327 2 жыл бұрын

That's fascinating electronic stuff. From what we've seen already, the interconnection of devices gives remarkable results. 🖒🤠

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

It really does. It's amazing the information you can have at your fingertips to make navigation safer these days.

@graeme-sailingskeptic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stu very helpful

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad it was helpful. :)

@JayCee-yy6oc 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, from Maine.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. :)

@Peter57808 2 жыл бұрын

The grounding sounds the same as an industrial system. Normal ground for power circuits is protective ground as it allows the protection circuits to work correctly. The other ground is instrument ground, this allows instruments to work correctly and the two systems are not normally connected. When I say not connected, in the petrochemical industry the act of connecting these systems together generates a DCM (don't come Monday)

@TR4zest 2 жыл бұрын

It is great to have something explained, assuming no knowledge (correct in my case). Thanks for this. How is the IT gig going for you?

@Luke198964 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid 👌

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. :)

@gjmob 2 жыл бұрын

If only CAN in automotive was this simple and user friendly. Car manufacturers seem to go out of their way to make harnesses as difficult as possible to diagnose. A spare Backbone, Backbone Cable and Device Cable would be handy as spares.

@arjovenzia 2 жыл бұрын

if your car came without any dash or ECU at all and you had to add that all aftermarket, it would surely become this easy. for the same reason in both situations. market control. if you have an all Raymarine setup, your gonna keep buying their stuff, cos the plugs all fit. the automakers also want you to keep buying their stuff, so its obscured. its way easier to just buy their part. CAN is open and pretty robust, but the industry does not really want you playing with it.

@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not designed to be user friendly as it’s not intended to be user accessible. It can be of course in consumer-facing products like aftermarket ECUs (see Haltech) but not in your everyday mass production car.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely have a few spare connectors and cables onboard. :)

@Captdal 2 жыл бұрын

Wow Thats alot THANKS

@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Always preferred B&G myself (yep they’re all owned by the same people….)

@thomasnichols7788 2 жыл бұрын

Keep adding all these new gadgets and you will have to repaint Renko to Stealth Black and register it with a national security organization! Undercover Renko. LOL!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly I had to sign paperwork saying I wouldn't use the FLIR camera for military purposes in order buy it. :)

@wildwestcoast8095 2 жыл бұрын

That is a great system seems pretty easy for an average Joe to hook up himself thank you for sharing stu have a safe trip home.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@seamusreilly6522 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the AIS stuff.

@charlie6751 2 жыл бұрын

When do you get time to have fun on the boat? Thanks for the tech talk Stu

@jimc4731 2 жыл бұрын

That was really good! What is a ballpark price for all the Raymarine equipment you have on Remco? Keep up the good work! JIM

@HeathLedgersChemist 2 жыл бұрын

If you drop a terminator, don't worry. It'll be back.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@gjmob 2 жыл бұрын

Come with me if you want to live, or do you have no Backbone.

@HyperionMV 2 жыл бұрын

Doh!

@KowboyUSA 2 жыл бұрын

Got my hands on components for a NMEA network I planned to put on my boat, but unfortunately once I got everything laid out it was missing some critical pieces.

@sailingvesperonthechesapea8111 Жыл бұрын

Where did you get the Seatalk diagram you show in your vid? It’s the best I’ve seen for clarity and I’d like to get a copy since I’m new to Seatalk and am in the process of installing Raymarine hardware. Is it a PDF file that I can download someplace?

@brokenmechanic 2 жыл бұрын

yawnn he said sleepy time he said. not me, more to learn each day. go hard stu

@Peter57808 2 жыл бұрын

Do you still use the Axiom 9? Is the display large enough for general navigation/fishing? I'm looking at the 12 but is it too large for a 5.5m fishing boat?

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

The main display is an Axiom 12 and the backup is an Axiom 7. The 9 is a very useful size for sure.

@tallcuss9004 2 жыл бұрын

When Jon says (at 21:30) that the extra pin in the STNG spur cable can be used to connect a "legecy" Seatalk1 instrument is he saying that instrument would then work in the STNG (NMEA 2000) system? What exactly is this extra pin and how can it be used?

@douglascushing9199 Жыл бұрын

Great explanation. However im still confused lol

@mellebrown363 2 жыл бұрын

Electronics is all well and good but the ability to know where you are if out of sight of land due to weather, battery, electronic failure or engine breakdown is more important.

@robertaskew4553 10 ай бұрын

Hi, I have a Raymarine Axiom unit and a Garmin unit in my boat. I'm not sure why the😂 previous owner decided to put 2 units in the cockpit. The boat has a Seatalk NG setup. I was thinking about moving the Garmin from the cockpit to inside the cabin. Can I connect it to the seatalk, and if so, will it sync with all the Raymarine data? The other thing I want to do is put in a Fusion stereo and a fusion remote controller, which can both be connected to the NMEA network. Will these work normal through the Seatalk NG network? Thanks for any advice/help you're able to give.

@ejdd3442 3 ай бұрын

i have a EV100 autopilot on seatalkng and a separate network switch HS5 that connects my Radar, AIS and Axiom. I want to connect by EV100 to the HS5 so I can see my autopilot on the Axiom. Is this possible. I spent endless hours searching Seatalkng to Raynet to no avail. Any Ideas?

@larry9210 2 жыл бұрын

Great if someone can show how to integrate an existing seatalk1 network to modern devices.

@mvhassallfree1031 2 жыл бұрын

How long are you in “Bum’s Bay” for?

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it wil be another week until the weather clears up to leave but will do the odd marina day for shopping etc.

@kurtkujawa3880 2 жыл бұрын

You should have invested in copper and the company that makes the connecters.

@berikco 2 жыл бұрын

No NMEA2000 fueltank senders yet?

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Not yet, but I would like some fuel flow monitors one day.

@berikco 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine yes very handy. I have fuel consumption from outboard and both Fueltanks have senders. The Raymarine MFD shows me if i can get home from a fishing trip nicely without using the spare fueltank. And if i trottle back, range increases acordingly.

@ashmorereed1426 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you found somewhere sheltered to get out of the wind the last couple of days!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it sure has been windy. Making it very hard to get home!

@ianc4901 2 жыл бұрын

Stu, You're gonna need a bigger boat mate !

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely!

@Skidderoperator 5 ай бұрын

Maybe the stuffs donated?

@Loopy_Boat_Skipper 2 жыл бұрын

You need a flir raymarine Camera for night filming

@MarkKrebs 2 жыл бұрын

Yah Detroit Diesel plus FLIR! Like eating raw mastodon with bernaise sauce.

@jejoko 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dangar. Great videos, great teacher as always! Using your viedos to do my lower this weekend. A little off topic but could you please tell me the normal running temperature for the 2010 150 etech. I want to make sure im not burning mine up. Thank you!!

@graemethomson5167 2 жыл бұрын

perfect....bed time

@macmacca659 2 жыл бұрын

I understood it, im a nerd, yeah.

@tonygordon3127 2 жыл бұрын

I find it strange that your pic of Jacques Cousteau looks like Bill Murray?

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's strange for Bill Burray to look like Bill Murray!

@anthonygordon6403 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine hahahahaha - I have been looking at it for months - classic

@MarkKrebs 2 жыл бұрын

do interns get glocks?

@Kiera_Jackson74 2 жыл бұрын

What ever happened to dead reckoning?

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Same thing as horse and cart. Something better came along and people started using that instead.

@Kiera_Jackson74 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine Yeah new tech is great but the fundamentals are still essential up here... I was so pissed when the cancelled local LORAN and now even VOR is essentially dead but funny they still have ADF (I fly too)