World's Most "Localised" Surf Destinations...
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Ай бұрынHey guys! In my years of surf travel, I've found some places to be friendlier than others when it comes to surfing and localism. While it's not fair to categorise an entire country as "localised" or hostile, in my experience, these destinations are some of the most localised. (Please don't let this video put you off visiting some of these places; at most spots, you'll be fine). Let me know of any experiences you've had!!
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@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Let me know your craziest localism stories!! I'm super overwhelmed with the response to this video; thank you so much for all your comments and stories; I've loved reading them! Please understand if I can't get back to all of you).
@dennismccarthy7032 Ай бұрын
Not on here Dan ❤
@michaeljarvis2709 Ай бұрын
Tamarin Bay is by far the worst I have experienced/witnessed: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hN9-qZlq2d-8emg.html
@dacat867 Ай бұрын
I saw this guy I didn’t know so I paddled up his inside
@user-gk1lo6ni1b Ай бұрын
1996 in the wave pool at Rhyl sun centre (north wales) i got dunked mercilessly by two obese spotty ginger girls
@karlheinzschulze5362 Ай бұрын
Not very exciting but a friend of mine being punched in the face by a Sayulita Local (Mexico), after the guy burned him and they crashed because my friend kept riding the wave... We then moved to another spot with less people and the locals were way friendlier...
@Silversonicultra-mz2pw Ай бұрын
I’ve been surfing for over 30 years all over the world. My experience is that roughly half of surfers are really cool and the other half are complete assholes.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Yeah fair shout!! I'd say it's probably a small percentage really...
@wakeupthebear Ай бұрын
That's funny I live by the 50/50 rule on everything. It's like 50 percent of the breaks and 50 percent of the surfers. 50/50 It's a very strange culture of dicks and bros. All trying to enjoy the ocean.
@frankb1686 Ай бұрын
90/10 assholes
@ItsWesSmithYo 26 күн бұрын
It just takes one 😎
@alejandropeca7515 12 күн бұрын
I like to read the seasoned surfer. I've started 2 years ago. My hypothesis is that surfing surged in popularity, especially during COVID, hence making the surf spots super crowded. Older surfers feel invaded and entitled 😅 I kind of understand that. In the few spots where I have been the feeling is from neutral to a bit hostile. No way I dare into a crowded place. Aggression is the likely outcome. At the time where surf etiquette is most needed, it's hardly existent.
@mistercarlberg Ай бұрын
I have a technique I recommend. 1) grin at everyone like youre mental. 2) paddle up to every local and tell them how great they are. 3) thank everyone whenever you catch a wave. And tell them how grateful you are for their kindness. 4) start conversations with people even when they flatout ignore you and pretend youre not there, and tell them how much youre enjoying the people and the vibe.... After a while od this they start to either THINK youre insane and let you just keep going so you dont kill, putrify and eat them. Or they get seduced by your kindness and realize that being kind back actually feels good. Next thing you know the local charger is yelling at you, "Go! Go! Go!" (So you do) "Yesssssssss Maaaaaaaaannnnn!" Trust me. It works.
@cathalsurfs Ай бұрын
Don't be british. Problem solved.
@bcronan43 Ай бұрын
I had a local in Morocco get pissed at me for just being in the water near where he was lining up but I slapped a big grin on my face and said "just enjooooy", gave him some space and later on that day we were splitting the peak. Kill them with kindness!
@theyoungupstarts1243 Ай бұрын
❤ Thank you for articulating my vibe!
@guscordeiro430 Ай бұрын
Dude…that’s exactly what I do! Works everywhere, no shit!
@kimballhenriod9837 Ай бұрын
🫶Mahalo bro
@surftrumpsa30designs31 Ай бұрын
Reunion has had its fair share of problems from the real locals 🦈
@wellscampbell9858 Ай бұрын
The southern Mexico scene is interesting--they kept a lid on things for many years but then Rip Curl came with the Search contest (2011?) and suddenly it was on the map. The locals banded together and created a system where you needed a local guide to surf some of the breaks there. You could get a "waiver" and go without a guide by, for example, donating an old laptop to a local school, or fulfill an equivalent community need. The guides would coordinate and arrange it so that none of the breaks were overrun and the visiting surfers were spread out well. They would also regulate the lineups in what appeared to be a fair and reasonable manner. You had to be behaving quite poorly to be asked to leave, but it would happen. I've done a bunch of traveling and would normally be opposed to having a guide, however many of the breaks are remote and would be very hard to find without prior knowledge, and it was very well run--the vibe in the lineup was always chill, the usual tension between individual surfers was largely absent, because everyone knew where they stood and the guides all knew each other. Not sure if it's still working, but I was impressed. I got tons of waves that trip too.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Hey mate!! Thanks for the story and I know all the points down in Salina Cruz are still "privatised" and you need a guide to surf them, but Barra is open to anyone these days. Although the locals definitely still get their waves!
@Akooks Ай бұрын
2006, hands down the best contest to ever taken place
@aerlial360 Ай бұрын
Thx for explaining, especially since I'm planning a trip there next year at a surf resort with a guide. Makes sense. I've heard there are many points as good as Barra on the way south towards Salina Cruz. Do you find this to be true?
@KyleSpam-ob9ku 26 күн бұрын
Nothing like saying your waves need to be protected, and then whoring them out for a bit of money. The guide thing down there really seems like one of the more disgusting examples of prostituting out the sport.
@faofab2099 21 күн бұрын
Was Lucky enough to surf this area before the contest with nobody out. Went back two years ago, spots are over crowded, too many "surf guide" with 10 surfers each on each spots. No worth the money, to share the wave with 50 other guys!
@benclarke8861 Ай бұрын
Tamarind bay - Mauritius! White shorts..
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Good shout! How’s the video of that local there 😂
@feanorwerm Ай бұрын
came looking for this place - #1 for localism
@wisu3529 Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123 Mate, I surfed Tamarin in 1999. Scored it going off its tits. Turns out I miraculously befriended the White Shorts alphas. I had one name of a guy there who happened to be the top pro in Mauritius at the time. I met him and after that, I was in the mafia. I'm still friends with some of the locals there to this day. In fact, and I swear this is true, swear on my mother's life, I was out surfing one day with a local guy named Jean-Pierre (JP) and I was in position for a bomb. I called JP into the wave even though I could have had an epic ride. He paddled back with a huge smile and I asked him how it was. He was frothing. Then I told him I thought he was in a better spot, so I gave it to him. After that, we got talking and just had a great session trading off waves. Later on, when I went in, I was talking to the other locals and saying I surfed with JP. And they were like, "what? and he didn't break out your fins?" Haha! Bizarre, but somehow I had the trip of a lifetime in Mauritius!!
@lawtonloraine4144 Ай бұрын
Yes great shout. They deserve a visit from some ghetto guys,
@KnotchiGaming Ай бұрын
Asia in general has the best vibes IMO Japan, Bali, Taiwan, Sri Lanka etc
@gnomechonky 23 күн бұрын
One of the most welcoming vibes I ever got was at a fickle, semi-secret spot on the North Shore of Maui in the 90s. Clean bowling lefts, 4-6' Hawaiian, maybe 10-12 people out, even as a haole with minimal suntan and no friends there people were smiling, telling me "go, brah!" when a set came in. It was great.
@D33PFUTURE Ай бұрын
when i first went to sw france i paddled out at a kind of unknown hidden spot, tiny waves, some teenager pointed for me to go back to hossegor, i said i'd just driven 2000 miles and laughed. but i did get out and it did freak me out a bit. Then a few days later i was across the border in the spanish basque and was really wary cos of being told to get out in france. Then twice what happened once at very friendly sized roca puta, was the locals could see i was holding back and waved me over to the spot so i could catch some waves. Couldn't believe it, it warmed my heart
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Epic!! So good to hear of stuff like that happening!
@donzioldbuddy Ай бұрын
Luanda Bay, CA was very localized when I would surf there in the early 80’s…Locals would rain down rocks from the 100’ bluff on surfers walking to the break and then vandalize their cars…classy group
@markstrickland6760 Ай бұрын
The truth rich kids suck I know l grew up in west Torrance go West High Worriers class of 1973.😃
@greenwave145 Ай бұрын
@@markstrickland6760 I was a warrior. Class of 98.
@muttonbuster 19 күн бұрын
The Bay Boys make for good narrative because hating the 1% is easy, but the truth is Pedro (TC's, Palms, etc) has always been and still is more localized than PV. In the 80s, the real scary ones that you just absolutely did not paddle out at unless you were invited were the Redondo Breakwall with the Carson Carvers and The Strand in Oxnard. Both of those like PV, had people start getting in trouble with the law. It just didn't get the same level of coverage because it didn't generate the same level of outrage.
@WilliamOrloff 17 күн бұрын
The Bay Boys got their ass busted about a year ago. Police came down on them suckers. I still wouldn’t surf there though if it’s good
@nsiebenmor 25 күн бұрын
This is why I prefer a nice hike in the mountains away from people vs surfing.
@lavapix 29 күн бұрын
Years ago fights were an everyday thing at my local break. I would get tons of waves while fights were going on. Good times.
@jordanaycox1984 Ай бұрын
Your book arrives in the mail today! Stoked for the read 🤙
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Yewww!! That's epic, really hope you enjoy it mate :)
@Bigd0gg Ай бұрын
Thanks Dan great info!
@surfernomad3158 17 күн бұрын
I used to live in Morocco in the 90's and the localism was horrendous, the irony was though it was the French surfers who were the worst ,not the Moroccans. I had a good friend who was born in Casablanca and we travelled and surfed together a lot, one day we went to Saffi ( essffi) which is now a surf camp and well known back in the early 90's it was French only and virtually unknown, we surfed it empty. My fried a local had his tires slashed for taking me their. I actually speak French and Arabic ( more Arabic than many of the local French guys) and I still got grief from the French even after 5 years. The lunacy of localism enforced by non native surfers never ceased to amaze me.
@jefffinlay3477 Ай бұрын
Always great info Dan 👍 love your vids 👍
@amphibious8872 3 күн бұрын
I lived and surfed a particular stretch of coastline in South Africa in the late 70's. Each break was super localised, but everyone new each other, but still had to be respectful when visiting someone elses local break.
@docrock5887 Ай бұрын
I've surfed every spot he mentions here and never had a problem. Actually every time I paddle out anywhere, everyone goes straight to the beach and either starts filming me or they borrow some paper and start taking notes. It's awesome to be me.
@garywilson1688 Ай бұрын
Lived in Hawaii (Oahu) for 9 years. Never had a problem. I did see some 'almost' fights though. Every time it was in 2-3 foot surf where a surfer from the mainland who just got off the plane would paddle straight out to the peak, catch a wave (calling everyone else off), turn around and paddle out straight to the peak again and catch the next wave (again screaming "I GOT IT!"). A big Hawaiian would paddle up to him after a few waves and say "Hey bra, shoots, give some wave for da other." The mainland surfer would ignore him and paddle right back out to the peak. It wouldn't be pretty. Then he would go home and tell everyone how 'localism' is out of control in Hawaii.
@Witzomania Ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing that.
@coltynwyoung 23 күн бұрын
I’ve been living in Japan and the locals are SO nice. Inside of the water and out. It makes it an enjoyable experience when everyone humbles their ego…
@toddorelli6056 11 күн бұрын
A nearby wave where I was living in Japan had a sign spray painted "Rocals Only". I always got a kick out of that. But I did have a ridiculous run-in with "rocals" at a different secret spot.
@MH_347 Ай бұрын
I started surfing in the 80’ and began the surf travel thing in the 90’ to most of the spots you talk about in your videos. The world was a completely different place and surfing for the most part was still considered a fringe sport in most places. Never had any problems with localism even in Hawaii. The way we were raised in surfing and watched over by the older local crew at home was that of respect your elders and to play by the unwritten rules. It’s not that hard. Fast forward to today and I won’t go surfing if there’s too many people. And I’m still as fit as a fiddle. Most of the name breaks are overrun and a lot of people paddle out with a sense of entitlement. A lot of the new surfers haven’t grown up with surfing and will never get it. They aren’t happy to wait in line. Some waves you will have to wait 3 hours for a wave and that’s just the way it is, even if you are local. People expect to paddle out and take what they please. Need to change the mindset to appreciation that you get to go surfing rather than expecting. Appreciate the video.
@chrismast5626 29 күн бұрын
Spot on...surfing's been branded to the world with no connection to its history...everywhere I go I respect locals.but crowds are so bad now at many spots there's no self regulation...surfed with plenty of clueless surfers.they make surfing stressful and dangerous
@frothymilksmiles Ай бұрын
I live in Santa Cruz CA where every local at every break just waxes your board for you and lets you paddle right out to the bowl every time with no hassle! Ha ha...
@rzadigi Ай бұрын
years ago I was surfing pleasure point and this tiny little grom told me I was catching too many waves 😂😂
@wellscampbell9858 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, wonderful Santa Cruz. I'm up at Ocean Beach but the free wax job has me heading down often. I remember a small summer Sunday at pleasure, saw a sullen bearded local walking down a, let's say, advanced beginner on the inside and eventually they had words and began to square up. Nothing out of the ordinary so far, but then this 10-11 year old kid comes in and starts yelling at the local, "Stop daddy, stop it!". Blech, that one was rough.
@barne3668 Ай бұрын
yeah right lol.
@willyjones3720 Ай бұрын
Surprised to hear that. Not my impression of SC. Espically at Steamer Lane. Love the area though.
@lawtonloraine4144 Ай бұрын
You joke about it but when I started surfing in 1967 that’s how surfers were. Shame on all these bad attitude knob hea%s. So sick people.
@ETYSURF Ай бұрын
This was my favourite one of your Dan
@user-ot3vd7ce3z Ай бұрын
Enjoying your book very much! -My first trip to Panama was in 06-straight to Bocas pumping surf for 3 weeks in early Feb with h my brother and friends -mostly paunch,inner dumps freight train left also Carnero island wow -sit wide big swell they will come right to you!Next trip try First beach and Wizards beach -all the best from Santa Cruz-Dave
@janhunter360 Ай бұрын
Compared to snowboarders and skaters, surfers are really selfish and territorial. I can say that because I've done all three sports throughout life. Its learned behavior and really unnecessary. There could be plenty of waves for everyone but people like to hog the peak and try to pretend they're pros LOL! Excellent video, by the way. Love the drone shots and variety.
@ptadisbander7959 Ай бұрын
It’s actually a really lame collective culture I find for a sport that is so Amazing and so naturally in touch with nature.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
I don't skate or snowboard, but that's an interesting comparison!! Definitely unnecessary! Thanks, stoked you enjoyed the video :)
@charliedillon1400 Ай бұрын
I surfed and snowboarded a lot more than skated in my life, but I can definitely say that skaters are the chillest of the three groups. Surfers ruin surfing.
@monkeymansean2 Ай бұрын
You can't really compare surfing to those other sports. Surf by its nature is a finite resource and so there's etiquette needed to share the resource that is largely adhered to. I think locals do deserve a certain amount of priority in their home spots, especially in countries which have already been colonised once and now have to deal with tourists coming and thinking they own the place. In my experience, if you're respectful, surfers are a cool bunch (notwithstanding a few complete fuckheads).
@jayd3931 Ай бұрын
@@monkeymansean2 Snowboarding is the same. Limited terrain, finicky conditions, and more people than space. In some ways it's more competitive because people are paying up to $300 just to get up the mountain. But surfers are definitely more aggro and less tolerant.
@andrewp1075 12 күн бұрын
I had some trouble back in the mid-80s in Hawaii. I was surfing Sunset and decided to stash my things under a tree, when I came back my stuff had gone. I saw this local dude who looked a bit like the singer Prince running from where I'd put stashed my stuff and hiding it at the back of his truck...they took my drawing tools and silver surf belt buckle I was spewin. Anyway, I had the last laugh as I banjoed a local hottie, beat the shit out of the Hawaii Prince-a-like, got my stuff back, learned how to shape and came runner up in my first contest at Pipe. That was a hell of a Winter.
@salzavenchura9043 3 күн бұрын
Did Roger get it?
@andrewp1075 3 күн бұрын
@@salzavenchura9043 😂😂😂 deep cut. "Go get it Roger"
@salzavenchura9043 3 күн бұрын
@@andrewp1075 "I heard he was a hot rippah. Bust his stick he shred so bad!" 😂😂🤣🙆♂🏄#wooohoooo
@tylergooden2183 Күн бұрын
Something similar happened to me in Southern California. Except it wasn’t a prince look alike , it was Anthony kiedis and he attacked me when I was showering off. Him and his buddies tried to fight me but then one of my friends interrupted and he knew them and he told one of them to back off. Was a real hairy situation but we did get them back in the end.
@salzavenchura9043 Күн бұрын
@@tylergooden2183 are you an FBI AGENT who unloads the clip straight into the air in the middle of a storm drain after breaking your ankle while yelling AAAAAUGGHHHAAAAA? And why did you let Bodhi go after he did your girl so dirty like that??!!! And what's she up to these days anyways?!?!?!?
@davida5136 Ай бұрын
You have a nice chill demeaner Dan, I live in Portugal and haven't experienced too much localism but I've mainly been surfing around Lisbon / Erriceira .
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, yeah I think it's only at certain spots really!!
@Legoboygago Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123 Yeap!! We're sic of tourists.. it's what happens when it becomes massive and there's no respect what so ever!!
@scopes_music Ай бұрын
@@Legoboygago us in Australia are sick of tourists aswell, i don’t think Brazilians know the word “surf ettiqutte” and as Dan would say”no offense to Brazil, I’m sure there’s plenty of wonderful people” 😂 my step mum is Brazilian and I bet if she surfed she’d be the same 😂 nah but fr Aussies are some of the worst locals , I should know I’ve seen my family punch people in the face in the water all the time , not unusual for Gold Coast. But yeah , Portugal doesn’t get the kinda tourist crowds we get at the super bank so be happy with whatever you’ve got I’ve basically given up at my home break of snapper. No one knows how dangerous what they are doing is, I personally have been burned a billion times and even gotten into a fight as the person who got burned 😂😂😂 surfers are legit 50/50 psychos , or the coolest people you know
@hipsonsogbo Ай бұрын
Very interesting, you have a lot of travel stories
@HarveyBentley Ай бұрын
Great video man. Would love to see the most friendly places in your opinion.
@Dobertathon Ай бұрын
Any crappy beachie.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!! Yeah, good video idea, I'll get to work!
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
@@Dobertathon Hahaha!!
@littlellama8405 Ай бұрын
Fiji bruv. No other place people cheer new commers into the wave. The only time there's any 'thats my wave vibe' is from foreigners. Only time I've seen someone get told to exit was when they dropped in on a grom (foreigner as well) in a barrel. Massive local just went and told the dude, "baratha, you can't do that man its dangerous, please go wait in the boat don't scare the kids." - that's it. Ha ha ha ha.
@JoshuaDunkelMusic 20 күн бұрын
New Zealand, especially in the more remote spots. Loved it. Also experienced really friendly vibes in the UK.
@michaeldose2041 Күн бұрын
Thanks for reminding me why I quit surfing long ago.
@wilburh2m Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking a risk to present this. You're discussing a really dark side of surf culture that few people like to really elaborate on, that hard-core travellers like yourself see almost daily. I grew up in Honolulu and surfed in the 70's and found the crowds gnarly back then. I decided to quit surfing in '81 (lasted 10 years) due to the shitty urban vibe that took over even on the lamest days, and headed for Central America, where it's a similar vibe and I learned I was a part of the tourist crowd problem.Too much demand, limited supply, and high expectations for glory in the water. The pro circuits and media exploit these expectations and serve as a raw marketing tool for tourism in these areas. Putting waves on a pedestal with a 1000mm lens shooting a half-mile-away wave and social media feeding this to billions creates distortions in people's minds about what these locations are really like.
@nurembergcode6148 8 күн бұрын
I grew up surfing Makaha in the early/mid 1960s - big mixed bag for sure. Back then Buffalo's children (Rusty & Brian) were in diapers with Buffalo being the king surfer of Makaha with no need to prove anything so, the locals were mostly cool though fights did break out now and again mostly with surfers from "town (Honolulu!)" - Lmao. Then later in the early 1980s I got into windsurfing in Hawai'i and it was a much more pleasant experience.
@jackmcfarlane4250 28 күн бұрын
If you need an example of localism in Australia there's literally a break in south Sydney named "Ours"
@timblizzard4226 10 күн бұрын
Only the Brah boys call it ours mate. I think to everyone else its cape solander. The worst thing is they aren't event from that part of Sydney.
@wildthing7783 5 күн бұрын
@@timblizzard4226 first its bra not brah theres not h in maroubra, next the bra boys put cape on the map from the cronulla body boarders
@timblizzard4226 4 күн бұрын
@@wildthing7783 first of all, lids were surfing that wave long before those guys were. Second of all, putting a wave “on the map” is the very definition of blowing out a spot, isn’t it? Third of all, I don’t give a fuck what they call themselves. From all appearances they are not much more than a group of parochial, uneducated, small minded tools who think they are entitled to literally possess waves in places they don’t even live, tools you evidently look up to. What does that make you?
@shaybowen2239 Ай бұрын
surfing La Santa 4 guys out (early 90's), head and a half. The other three guys were all locals and 2 of them were super hot surfers. The other one was an Intermediate. I was sitting a bit wide letting the 2 hotties get their fill and snagging a few of their leftovers whilst chatting to the other friendly guy. Then a set came through the hotties had been on the earlier set so i was in plum position. As I paddled one of the surfers paddling out paddled straight in front of me and turned for the wave, by this time it was too late to pull out so I basically went over the falls on top of him. As you can guess lots of heated Spanish expletives, and pointing to the beach. As there was only him causing problems I stood my ground and carried on surfing !!!!! but then about 1/2 dozen of his mates got in so I got out, just to be safe
@brockman562 26 күн бұрын
Santa Cruz like spots like the Lane and Pleasure Point, and all the smaller unknown spots in between in the 80s-early 00s was super localized. Lunada Bay. Big Rock in La Jolla
@scottdsmith4476 Ай бұрын
That’s why I like surfing at wave pools. Vibe is supportive and fun.
@ItsWesSmithYo 26 күн бұрын
I heard they shout you with nerf
@keno1069 25 күн бұрын
Wave pools are really fun. I want to go to the Surf Ranch someday
@lockedout8643 Ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks they have ownership rights to surf locations neither understands or has any love for the ocean.
@leonardberverena1030 Ай бұрын
Love this video 🫶👌🤙🤙🤙
@rebeladas9055 Ай бұрын
As a portuguese, unfortunatly I can confirm that has horrible localism and lots of unforgiven vibes in the water, specially to foreign people. Definitely has one of the worst crowds
@D33PFUTURE Ай бұрын
so everywhere then! nice
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Hahah, in a lot of places yeah ;)
@j.carlat Ай бұрын
Thanks brah
@cloviskeable9943 Ай бұрын
Seaside Oregon had a perfect world class left with the worst localism. Violence is common there...
@chrisfinnegan8370 Ай бұрын
, Oregon has a lot of tiny mind syndrome I hear , , ,
@mattclark1278 Ай бұрын
Ain't nothing perfect about that left - but it CAN get really good...
@bigislandoutdoorlife1489 Ай бұрын
Yeah boyyy, the point! I got me lots of Indian beach too when I waz in high-school
@noflo8139 Ай бұрын
Vibes are so good in Oregon water. Never been to seaside tho
@peteranelson Ай бұрын
naw....EVERYBODY needs to visit Seaside Oregon! lovely waves, shy locals, you'll have a blast. bring your friends!
@chsaebeerglass Ай бұрын
That morocco story is WILD!! The dude rubbing the neck of the girl you were with. omg. Also surprises me that they would be so unfriendly in the water, I def. didn't realize that was the case. Thanks for the video. Great content!
@Ethan-bu2zy Ай бұрын
That would’ve resulted in a pounding. Full-stop.
@MrBreakthompson 14 күн бұрын
They have a very bad mentality towards outsiders because they are locked on where they live. They can't go around the world to travel for surf, so they hate you and try to keep you away from the one thing they got.
@simontemplar1 Ай бұрын
In the 70s when I was in my 20s I lived and surfed Tenerife (Canary islands) and I swear there was just myself and one local lad who surfed, and that was it. There were no other surfers, just local swimmers. It was paradise. Of course now every dickhead wants to surf.
@steveinglis3916 17 күн бұрын
Cnfital was extremely friendly in the seventies! not
@kerryabruzzo5297 9 күн бұрын
Vicente from Long Island, NY pioneered the surf in Tenerife. You weren’t too long after him.
@mindhead_ 2 күн бұрын
Back in mmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy dayyyyyyyyyy
@flstudiopresents Ай бұрын
I was there at barra that day! Was about 3 years ago, miss everywhere in Oaxaca except barra 😂
@rangatrips Ай бұрын
My 2 cents. I went to arica and iquIque and took photos of the locals, gave them the footage and they invited me to parties and showed me 2 secret spots. Surfed Portugal Supertubos perfect 5 - 6 foot super crowded and no trouble at all. Same with Puerto Escondido, when it gets over 6 foot you pretty much can take any wave you want. I would only agree with Hawaii, that is a horrible experience surfing there.
@barracuda833 Ай бұрын
People go to the most crowded places on earth cause instagram told them so, and complain they cannot just do what they want 😅 Just be respectful
@barne3668 Ай бұрын
yup you did it the right way rangatrips. you HAVE to immerse yourself into the culture. I went to school near Supertubos and spending time with everyone on the beach and in the water was key. I went outta my way to get to know all the surfers....now I can cruise in any time any day and they all still know me...generations too since we used to spend summers there down from Norway...5 months of non stop surfing
@rangatrips Ай бұрын
@@barne3668 it's such an awesome town! Apparently before it was a surf town it was just hardcore fisherman living there. Must be wierd for those original locals to see how the town has transformed.
@flasponge 23 күн бұрын
So true!!! Excellant advice!
@johntaylor6654 21 күн бұрын
Kalbarri, Western Australia, Jakes Point is a wave that the locals hog, back in the seventies it had a good vibe, with no local surfers except for Craig Howe. He was the first surfer to live there, over the years surfers from all over Australia gradually took up residence, these imports mainly from Queensland started to act like they owned the place from about the mid 1980's. Now they have kids who surf [ there's a lot called Jake ] these guys are total wave hogs. Most of them have the place wired, combine that with a narrow take off zone that's difficult and dredging, it's hard to get a good wave. There was a time when the waves were shared, those days, sadly are gone.
@garvinc7267 Ай бұрын
Grew up in Santa Cruz. I started surfing in the early 00’s and it was still pretty heated. 90’s were all out fist fight. I think 80’s even more so. Now you’ll get an earful if you fuck up but no one wants to go to jail. Had a few scary run ins as a grom and learned some important lessons on respect and knowing one’s place in the lineup, which helped me when I’ve traveled to other localized spots.
@kwambo1097 Ай бұрын
Follow up video idea I’d love to see: what are the friendliest lineups you’ve surfed in your travels?
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Epic video idea, mate!! I'll get researching it!
@waterman7733 Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123 If you make a video on the friendliest spots, you will participate in drawing crowds to them. Then those friendly locals will end up getting angry too / localism everywhere...
@jacquelineTXRealtor 15 күн бұрын
Iam from Iquique ! Beautiful
@shawnweston4741 22 күн бұрын
I surfed Portugal and France years ago. No problems at all.Seemed very friendly and good fun waves.
@stevegoodwin5510 21 күн бұрын
Surf both in the last year... crowded but yes friendly... as long as you recognize your place in the lineup...
@INFINITYREALM Ай бұрын
Thanks Dan, would love to see the list of the friendliest places to surf. I need that. I've been surfing Hawaii for over twenty years and the stuff I see in the water makes me lose faith in people. Selfish and petty.
@dojahman Ай бұрын
A good 10 years ago I went to check out the south tip of Fuerteventura with my girlfriend. There's a a pretty sick spot down there that doesn't break very often, and I know it's localised, but when we showed up it was just a knee high peeler, though very pretty and glassy, and there wasn't a soul in sight. So we decided to go for a romantic little couple-longboard session, great times. Suddenly a local guy showed up, paddled out on his shortboard and started to drop in on as many waves as he could, which he could barely surf because it was knee high. But just for the sake that noone could surf there and to stay true to his spot. It was super awkward, we just tried to ignore him. At some point I kind started joking with him, but he ignored me. I guess he did feel kind of stupid in the end, because it was just superweird. He did succeed in ruining a nice moment with my girl, and we never came back, so he wins I guess.
@moomountain Ай бұрын
There’s some some sad petty people around isn’t there. Poor guy what an existence, probably never been further than the end of his road.
@kylepalmer1645 21 күн бұрын
Palos Verdes California, home of surfing and then calling the windshield replacement company lol, brutal locals, off to Ventura, really cool surfers...
@andrewmcintyre3237 5 күн бұрын
Surfed most of these spots, never had a problem.
@adlene5961 Ай бұрын
I went to Australia for some waves and believe me, locals wasn’t my main fear if you got me !!! 🦈 With all due respects to the friendly aussies 🇦🇺
@bismarckmark6566 Ай бұрын
It only occurs in Australian smaller towns. And even then ive only ever seen it bad when a photographer turns up. In these places ive always found locals very happy to share some waves and it stands to reason that as a traveller you take no more than your fair share and take a moment sitting in the lineup to be friendly too.
@RhodeIsland-qn4fj Ай бұрын
Narrabeen, some other northern beaches and cronulla can be unfriendly. But I might’ve just had assholes surfing those days. Never had trouble at maroubra, but I was normally down the more chill southern end.
@timblizzard4226 10 күн бұрын
@@RhodeIsland-qn4fj Cronulla? Where? I had no problems there, like ever. Just running into one guy in a bad mood isn't really localism you know? Maroubra was fine as well.
@dug452007 21 күн бұрын
Fun story surfing Raglan New Zealand, .... It was a nice slightly over head mellow day, very fun waves and a friendly good vibe in the water. I was riding a longboard so didn't have any problem catching waves, no snaking or anything just enjoying the whole session when this guy paddles up to me and starts in with "Hey, stop being a wave hog!!" I was taken aback because I was just catching a few here and there, nothing too aggro. Then found out he wasn't a local, the guy was from New Jersey!!!! SMH, sheesh.
@kenproctor6517 Ай бұрын
yo dan ... best to avoid surfing at rocky point anymore after the detailed dis of the locals 🤣
@Whosetheworst Ай бұрын
I surf, skateboard and snowboard. I do more of the second two these days because there are too many selfish, entitled and aggressive surfers ruining it for everyone. The surf industry needs to show some leadership on this issue.
@cliffordbarber5997 Ай бұрын
The world class left point break in Seaside, Oregon.
@mitchelljohnson9548 24 күн бұрын
probably get your camera stomped there , if certain locals are out. lol
@artlover1477 29 күн бұрын
Traveling to foreign surfing breaks requires COMMON SENSE & COURTESY. Always remember that you're a guest. Treats locals with respect.
@spojce9 23 күн бұрын
yeah but what are you going to do when these people are raging assholes. common sense and courtesy only go so far. anyway most of these places are third world dumps regardless, outside of their waves.
@rodfer5406 11 күн бұрын
Good
@danielesc Ай бұрын
totally spot on. Chile has localism specially in the north like Iquique or Antofagasta but in the south generally speaking are very friendly unless you drop in
@juan_salvador_gaviota Ай бұрын
Really? I met some of the friendliest people out in the water in Iquique. My only bad experience was getting slammed into the reef 😂
@danielesc Ай бұрын
@@juan_salvador_gaviota oh maybe cuz I'm from center/south Chile, Viña del Mar and they always think we are from Santiago (capital). But yes, there are friendly surfers
@larrydecoursey8056 11 күн бұрын
Hawaii and SoCal and Mexico…be kool and go with flow 🎉 now Morocco is just another type of freaking crazies 😮
@Kaiiine Ай бұрын
I grew up in a lil town where we had some great breaks few guys sitting around enjoying the waves... you gotta understand. Locals chilling where they grew up then tourists turn up paddle out n try n take over break... respect where you are its simple as that... Cant blame locals for defending their breaks.
@williamwalton583 29 күн бұрын
Defending?
@keno1069 25 күн бұрын
I hope you expand your world someday.
@user-qj5yb3rc1g Ай бұрын
Oxnard ca high on that list back in the day better now but I surfed anyway!
@K.C-2049 Ай бұрын
meanwhile, in a tiny corner of Canada, there's a small collective of weirdos riding waves in the pouring rain in like 8C degree water who are too busy trying to survive the temps to be agro lol
@MAELOB 29 күн бұрын
Lived in Hawaii for 6 years, I found the crowd aggressive but in a weird friendly manner, like a silent passive aggressive positioning battle LOL obviously never paddled at pipe during a super solid swell, but rode north shore on small to medium days without any issue. My strategy was too just have a friendly vibe and just wait my turn.
@salzavenchura9043 3 күн бұрын
this is the way
@ralphdeshon9710 24 күн бұрын
When I was a kid, we held down our pitiful break on Captiva island.A little wooden breakwater, locals only dude, lol.
@libertyblack715 Ай бұрын
😊Santa Cruz, CA. A fun memory of mine was taking a boogie board out for my first go at Santa Cruz, CA, under the cliffs. I had plenty enough experience surfing East Coast, Hawaii and Australia to know I was watching some famous hard-core local surfing. I also knew there wouldn't be any room for me. So, my strategy was to wait halfway down the wall until somebody wiped out. Then, I could pick up the leftover wave. It was amazing. Wave after wave, set after set. Good waves, 4-5 foot, light off-shore, and EVERY one of them taken and shredded all the way down the line. After a half hour or so of respectfully waiting, I started nudging up closer to dropping in, just hoping one of them would take pity and let me have the second half of just one. NOPE! Every one of them came barelling through AND managed to kick a spray of wake straight in my face while they were at it. I actually thought it was pretty funny. But, after another half hour of this, somehow I got out and went across the bay, where I got some bitchin body surfing in. They don't know what they missed. Judging from the 'wide eyes' and open mouths I got, that is.
@keno1069 25 күн бұрын
Bitchin
@Notascammer1776 24 күн бұрын
I had a choice between beach or mountains and chose mountain life because of people like this.
@austinlamond7054 26 күн бұрын
Morocco is awesome if you are with a surf guide or group - the locals respect you as you surf with guys they’ve known their whole lives. They don’t like guys travelling in vans and cars who don’t pay for accomodation because they aren’t giving much to the community. That’s what I found speaking to some locals, but I got some all time waves down there, love that place
@genewest8426 Ай бұрын
It's post's like yours blowing up spots that create the reaction. It's cause and effect. Kook!
@leozebiosthor6242 Ай бұрын
I ve got a good one for you... The left hander at Atalaia, in Santa Catarina, Brazil is heavily localized... I lived in the area for a little over 10 years and never managed to surf... It s a well known localized spot, so usually no ones try to surf it, but if by chance you wanna have a go and park your car on the parking lot, by the time you get back your tires will be sliced... I once saw a former brazilian CT surfer go for a surf and by the time he came back his car was upside down... The wave breaks next to a pier, so some locals will stand in there throwing rocks and shouting to the crowd. Very bad vibe honestly. The wave itself is wicked and on a good day will run for 150-300m. Shame I never had a chance to surf it.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Hey mate!! Wow, I've never heard of that one, sounds crazy, though, turning a car upside down!! Thanks for the story :))
@ThePantufabc 27 күн бұрын
So true, used to live my whole life close to Atalaia, you can only manage to surf there if you be come friends with a local and they invite you over for a surf. Had a mate that took him 2 years to get the “invitation”. Bloody ridiculous
@MasterDoesMincraft Ай бұрын
Shocked Topanga wasn't mentioned went their once when it was pumping and 50 plus people for one right break... People yelling and cussing each other out. Luckily I recognized how the wave was changing with the tide (moving left) so I was able to catch a couple wide before everyone migrated over lol
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
I had never heard of that place until today, but I just did some reading... It sounds so hectic out there! Is the wave even that good haha!?
@michaelfarar4232 Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123Topanga is now surfed mostly by SF Valley kooks
@krishnaveganathar Ай бұрын
I’ve witnessed mental illness here…
@MasterDoesMincraft Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123 It was a decent wave for the area espeically with the swell direction compared to other spots but still just a disgusting amount of people
@mircokuhnemund483 Ай бұрын
It's:"went there"
@garydillon7028 25 күн бұрын
There's a few reasons why I stopped surfing. This is one of them. Most locals in those spots are dumb and aggressive. Equal parts.
@christophehuybrighs5537 Ай бұрын
spent some time in Morroco and plenty of time in Portugal and actually never encountered this kind of behaviour. Yes at certain breaks it wasn't easy getting a wave due to conditions and overcrowding, but generally people were always nice, even though I like to sit deep and wait out for the larger sets to come in... nobody hassled me.
@Jacoozzi Ай бұрын
Re Portugal. Most of the localism is in Peniche area, especially Molhe Leste or Supertubos. Your story is very typical there, sometimes bodyboarders would even grab you by the back if you start paddling for a wave. If you drive down south, it's way more chill towards foreigners. I lived in Peniche for a while and i've seen it all - bricks in windshields, pierced tires, cars on fire, fist fights, etc.
@karlheinzschulze5362 Ай бұрын
personally I have seen the worst localism in the places where the surf is the most consistent (Canaries, Mexico, Marocco) and some of the nicest locals in places where the surf is not consistent but good when it's on (Mediterranean). However there is good and bad everywhere to some extent...
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that's such an interesting trend!! Never noticed that before... I wonder why!?
@GBLahLah Ай бұрын
Well said, I agree
@KRTRWZRD Ай бұрын
@@DanHarmon123 when the surf is not consistent and you get that one epic swell 3 times a year you're just the happiest person in the world and there is no room for localism or any hatred left in your brain.
@jbuzzao Ай бұрын
I agree, I m from Barcelona and even though the waves suck and are scarce, people is very friendly. It shocks me that, in places that have plenty of waves everyday, they have such bad localism
@sprayhood1 Ай бұрын
🤙🏽true mate
@mattwilmshurst8456 Ай бұрын
Cheers Dan. Part of the reason I prefer Snowboarding.
@alexandros8361 Ай бұрын
I agree. Less number of white pointers and tiger sharks at the snow too.
@keno1069 25 күн бұрын
100%. Everyone is welcome. There’s no local attitude. I’ve been skiing and snowboarding for decades. I’ve been to camps at Mt Hood, had seasons passes to various resorts in the western United States, and spent a season in New Zealand. I have never had a problem with locals.
@g.barios5805 Ай бұрын
Dude its funny because Ive spent 7 months in Australia (mostly snappers, dbah), 2 months in portugal (lisbon, ericeira), a couple of weeks in Canary Islands (north shore Fuerteventura, lobos, el hierro) and surfed Anchor Point in Morocco as well. I have almost no stories of agressive localism.
@dcards4632 Ай бұрын
Because you A. Rip B. Always have the good bud or C. You are a Kook😂
@williamwalton583 29 күн бұрын
Get a fucking job
@user-wz2sj9ij8j Ай бұрын
I take out my false teeth..pop a fake blood balloon with the few remaining real teeth..start crying and laughing simultaneously all the while making grotesque grunting noises. . .i get all the waves I want..no problem.
@cielosurf Ай бұрын
Best comment 😂
@TheMRSort Ай бұрын
Hey Dan, nice video :) I was with the idea to go to Mexico, eheheh, now i'm not that confident anymore... That Parko thingy in Portugal, he asked for that to happen, totally his fault there, but yeah, not an easy lineup there in Super Tubos. Cheers from PT iuuuu
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Thanks mate!! Too be honest, you'll be fine in Mexico, as long as your not burning or snaking, you'll be sweet at Barra and Puerto...
@adriangonzalezmonroy9588 2 күн бұрын
I am mexican, from cabo, puerto fucking sucks, just took a 10 day trip there and you can only surf carrizalillo but you need to dodge every begginer dropping in on you, the instructors just push 20 people in when its not a local on the wave. When theres a local, forget ir, everyone has to retreat. La punta fucking sucks, same thing but WAYYY more locals and instructors with intermediate surfers pushing the girl they are teaching in your wave. Did not even make the trio to barra de la cruz because of this. Remember I am mexican and a decent surfer with wayy too much patience and etiquette. Come to cabo/baja. You will catch more waves in 1 day here than 1 week in puerto escondido. Some local spots, but more tourist/welcoming spots than not. P.S. did see a fight today 🙃 fuck localism, let people surf
@jakebauer5865 Ай бұрын
Great video Dan! Ive surfed the gold coast a few occasions and its a little weird out there. Ive had days like you mentioned with heaps of people out and fights happening, people dropping in and absolute chaos.(snapper rocks, dbah, etc) But then on the other end when we would surf in Byron Bay. the locals would literally be yelling at us wanting us to drop in on them and share the wave. every wave was a party wave there. XD. definitely all sorts of vibes at the different spots there.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Thanks Jake! Yeah wow!! What a contrast in attitudes haha!!
@exxotixjeff2822 Ай бұрын
The Gold Coast isn’t always crowded even at the best breaks, and the vibe is usually good at these times
@jaib695 Ай бұрын
gold coast (snapper mainly) is a bit of a joke about how hard it is to get a wave, and when you do you probably get dropped in on but most other parts of australia is fine if you're surfing to the rules and having respect in the lineup. I'm from Byron area and i surf all up and down the coast, as well as localised lineups like Angourie and Iluka, if you're surfing with respect you shouldn't have an issue no matter where you're from...
@exxotixjeff2822 Ай бұрын
@@jaib695The Pass , Brocken Head and Lennox aren’t exactly uncrowded, probably why you surf up and down the coast.
@timblizzard4226 Ай бұрын
I think in general when you are a local (how ever you define that) in a reasonably well known place, you are used to seeing new people in the water. It's just normal. It's not like people will send you in at bells or snapper or the Sydney beaches just because they don't know you. Of course there are exceptions, but those are exceptions, not the rule. Generally speaking, in Australia people follow the rules.
@KRTRWZRD Ай бұрын
My experience from Morocco ist very different. Ive had locals calling me into waves there. And obviously peope what to sell you a lot of stuff all the time but they are just generally super friendly.
@DanHarmon123 Ай бұрын
Epic, that's amazing to hear mate! I definitely need to go back there, as I guess it's unfair to categorise the place based just on a couple of bad experiences!!
@waterbowman5307 Ай бұрын
Same
@anaklaut69 Ай бұрын
A certain degree of localism is necessary to keep the order in the lineup otherwise every spot would be like Malibu.
@gudsession Ай бұрын
The worst place I've ever been was in Tenerife, I waited 20 minutes next to a surfers car that got ready to leave parking spot in front of a famous peak. After 20 minutes they started to leave and a local guy came and stole my parking space claiming that he is a local and he should get it before me and told me to respect the locals😳 .
@timanctil8225 28 күн бұрын
Surfing and overall saftey were better when localism was more common...
@JamesWray73 22 күн бұрын
I was in Morocco for 2 weeks last month and had no problems. We had a car and were off the beaten track, but we gave the local groms lifts from the beach to village every day, gave them some gear, locals were telling us the best tides for each spot etc. Sometimes they asked for some wax, occasional surf instructor a bit greedy in the water but other than that was cool. Also found when it was bigger but say a bit choppy, then pretty empty. Ideal for us from Scotland where seldom super clean anyway. But I think you need to be prepared to get away from organised groups or surfcamps if you wanna avoid the crowds there. The only aggression was driving in Agadir at rush hour, that's way scarier than anything in the water 😅
@briansprock2248 Ай бұрын
I've been super lucky so far. Surfed CR central and south pacific coast 3x, Bocas once, and never once really seen any heavy localism. Even dropped in accidentally, and got a hard look or a yell. Curaçao where I am from. Not many good spots until the waves come from far away swell, or a passing storm in the carib or coming in through the the passages in the island chains like from the Mona passage or the north east passage. Then there is some real magic sometimes. We used to live for those moments. For more consistant surf the upper carib islands, bahamas etc. Curaçao you have to patient. Bonaire has less, but a few good ones if condition are right as well. Aruba has some good waves, but I never had the chance to surf there.
@aitutaki50 Ай бұрын
I've seen it from both sides, after many surf vacations to Hawai'i, & eventually moving there to the Big Island from New Jersey...many times I've been the only haole in the lineup, & we all still managed to get along just fine 🤙🏽
@CJ-bw2nm Ай бұрын
Jersey boys travel well, woooo!
@donzioldbuddy Ай бұрын
Until it gets crowded, then you’ll be asked to leave
@aitutaki50 Ай бұрын
@donzioldbuddy the only time anyone has ever asked "to leave" was when I was 🏄♂️ just learning to surf back @ the Jersey Shore @ a jetty/shorebreak...a dude (who was actually a very good surfer from Florida, & who was visiting his cousins from NJ for the summer) paddled up to me & said, "Bro, I just watched you ride three waves straight-in. So, please just paddle up the beach ⛱️ a bit to where people are learning how to surf." As I started to paddle up the beach, my buddy was laughing hysterically at me & yelling out, "Dude--You just got Shoo-Bee'd!!" Of course, it was a little bit embarrassing for me. But, I took my medicine & paddled up the beach, & learned how to surf.
@808BizStuff Ай бұрын
Oahu vibe very different/ more difficult than Big Island....
@aitutaki50 Ай бұрын
@808BizStuff I lived in Hawai'i for many years, & I've surfed all the Outer Islands (including Moloka'i, although I never visited Lana'i), plus O'ahu many times...my favorite spot on O'ahu, during maxed out North Shore conditions, is Makaha Beach
@skipper2leo 28 күн бұрын
Got it everywhere
@kauaifishing1365 Ай бұрын
If you show up by yourself where I live, and can surf and have respect you will have no problem. If you try and film or have a group you will have a problem
@dr.7708 11 күн бұрын
so everywhere
@MorAcro Ай бұрын
Nice viral video bro, inproved your lighting too which was necessary 😅
@sunroy1 Ай бұрын
Yeah, localism has been around since the 70’s. We got our tires deflated at sunset cliffs. My friend got hit in the face and he never would never offend anyone. Disgusting
@cantrecall5633 22 күн бұрын
Pro Tip, don't bring your camera gear to Kauai.
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