Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know your experience with Liquids Vs Baits in the comments down below... I am looking forward to the debates :) Please let me know if you have any questions about what I discussed -Dan

I understand where you’re coming from…but I do termite inspections for a living and I find a lot more termites in homes with liquid treatment than I do baiting systems. (Personally) Also a lot of professional companies will use an above ground stations for active infestations. I do disagree with this video…but I see where you’re coming from.

I've been in pest control for 24 years and this video is very accurate. Hire this guy if he is in your town. We need honesty in the industry.

Awesome video brother! Thanks for doing your part in making people's lives better.

Hey I have neighbors use them but end up breaking while installing or run them over with lawnmower. Just for experimenting purposes I placed pieces of wood on the ground around my house. Within several weeks in spring/summer termites were on underside eating away.

Dan, I saw a video of yours you recorded 2 years ago and you said these termite statios works well. Now you said the opposite. I'm really confused for what you said on this video. Thanks

I have a rental house which was built in last year. I got a call from a termite company saying they placed termite base stations and now need to have maintenance service for $360 per year. if I choose not to have the service, they said they will remove the base stations. I just wanted to check and research and I come across with your KZfaq. And I am glad I checked it Your information was exactly what I wanted to know! Thank you so much!

I live on Long Island NY and have been commercial applicator since 2008. Now I have no beef whatsoever with your video. For me personally, I do more servicing of Advance termite bait stations from previous exterminators who no longer do the service for whatever their reason may be. I do more of the Advance termite bait station than chemical barrier treatments. Again, personally I tell my customer the entire shpeel on different ways of managing their termite issue, but more times than not it comes down to dollars and cents with them. I am not a pushy used car salesman, so explaining their options, and allowing them to decide what fits their budget generally works for me, and of course there have been times where I have chosen to walk away from certain situations that were counter-productive to running a legitimate business. I like your videos, keep up the great work.

I can't find that department of agriculture litigation document only documents from the NC code .. Can you please reference the Dept of Agriculture document that states the 12 months ands and the 30 days you reference ?

I'm doing a termite treatment tomorrow that has active termites. Those bait stations failed to do the job. Needless to say, the company that put those in will not be returning.

Im not sure about every company, but the annual renewal isnt just to monitor the stations, it is the cost to keep a warranty in place in the event termites do bypass the stations and damage the home. The company I am with actually covers the cost of damage if something does happen with the system in place. I know other companies offer retreat warranties as well. Now if a company is charging that much just to monitor the stations, then that is definitely a scam.

My mother who is a widow on a very fixed income had termites. I with the help of your video used the Taurus SC. With no skill level or abilities of any kind trenched around the house and eliminated the termites in I swear 3 days they were gone.

So glad I found your channel. I was quoted $2,400 for 2 years so they can place bait stations around my property. It comes with a power wash spray of the whole house and would be ok until the first frost. I do not even have termites! 😂😂

Interesting video with good points. I've watched a lot of your videos, and a couple years ago you indicated that either bait stations or liquid were pretty equal alternatives. I have a Florida home that is 20 ' from a pond. 10 years ago it had a perimeter treatment with fipronil. Instead of retreating, A few months ago I self installed BASF bait stations around my home, thinking it was a better environmental option that would work just as well, and where I could personally see activity & results. . Wondering what to do now. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Company I work for we do both when the client has issues with termites and by itself as a preventative service. I have seen 0 issues with the homes that have these alone as a preventative service.

Man said “reoccurring revenue is the best way to have a successful business” then turned around and said “sentricon is the worst and should be illegal” because they want reoccurring revenue from him…

Hi, what is the name of the Liquid in the white bottle that you showed. And where can I find the container with the long handle that you can push into the ground and spray. Thank you for the video

Thanks so much for an awesome video.I don’t think I have termite issues but thought I might get an inspection for peace of mind.I am thinking now I should probably find a company in northern Ca that treats with the Taurus SC and I’m safe and protected for 20 years .would you agree on being proactive in having house sprayed even if no termites for protection?

Full disclosure, according to the department of Ag, a liquid treatment lasts up to 10 years before needing another restorative treatment. Its' still 60-70% cheaper over the course of that ten year period than maintaining a bait system.

Termite Bait Stations are there to monitor activity before they start eating away at the house. I've installed bait stations around my home, and it hasn't taken long for them to find the bait.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I can’t afford to get my home tented. I also have carpenter ants . So I found you on YT. Bingo! Will be DIY. Given the opportunity I Would save myself the hassle and hire. That’s not an option. So grateful for your help! Very instructive and easy to understand videos! Wishing you success!

Any thoughts on Navigator sc termiticide? Bought some and realized there’s also Termidor.

Ive used them on active infestations and they usually start working within 3 months. I haven't done thousands of termite jobs but I've done a few.

If I dont put enough chemical due to measurement error less than 10 lineal feet should I be concerned?

Hey Dan. I have ants in my basement. I see them coming out from tiny hole and I put a caulking. Can ants destroy house foundations?

Great video, great insight. I used your videos to get rid of termites in my house. Maybe one benefit of bait stations, it is more environmentally friendly; that being said I used the liquid treatment of course haha.

Thanks Dan for this info. Sentricon a year ago. The termite company sent me a bill of $250.00 to keep warranty in force. I watched your video. What is safe to use with a shallow well 45' deep. My hose is 75' from the well. Can you tell me what I should do. Thanks, Steve

I had my house sprayed by a licensed exterminator for lots of dineros. Had other infestations every year until I was informed by a different exterminator to try bait stations. I've been using them for many years now - and haven't had a problem since. At $50 a box, they are not cheap. Can buy a box a month, and it would still be cheaper then hiring an exterminator. Thankfully each box lasts me a few years. I'm all in with this scam. I store it right next to my "pet rocks".

Can you let us know how to do a preventative maintenance in attic for drywood termites. That would be a major help for most of us.

I live in Ohio. I nearly got scam by my pest control company that I was with for about 4 years. They wanted to charge me $1500 to install the Sentricon bait stations around my 1250sqft home. This was a "discounted" price also since I was already a customer. Plus $60 per month for 2 years for the warranty ( He did not mentioned this. I just happened to have read it.). They used several scare tactics to get me to sign. Such as "the house down the street needed $30K in termite damage repair". I ended up signing but after thinking about it overnight and doing a little research I canceled the contract the next day ( had a 3 day cancel window). In fact I completely canceled all my pest services from them. I ended up DIYing it with trenching and using a 78oz bottle of Taurus SC for $100. It was back breaking and time consuming but well worth it.

Been using sentricon for 10+ years never had an issue. Also the most sustainable systems on the market, but definitely dump 100s of gallons in the soil and it still not be 100% effective.

Dan, how do I get rid of termites that are already in the house?

Look at us a bunch of f’kn nerds getting mad over the best way to kill bugs😂 I

Wouldn't the yearly renewal of the bait stations be worth it for the warranty alone? That was basically the reason I renewed mine, through Terminix, after 1 year on our new-build home. Trying to decide if I should renew again when it comes up in a couple months but the warranty is what gives me piece of mind.

Dan, noticed you never really drill on patios or walk ways. is that necessary? Great Vids. Thanks

Sentricon recruit HD works great here in new orleans the above ground stations for actives knock out activity quick the stations aren't fool proof but the back up with the AG works well price wise. It is cheaper to get sentricon vs liquid. Plus the cost of retreating and renewals. Its a lot easier on both sides of the business

Ive had good luck with bait stations over the years. Worse luck with liquid over the same time

Do termites make a knocking sound inside the walls of a home Thank you

When you mentioned "Corteva," I was wondering if it was "Corteva Agriscience" who produced those bait stations. They're headquartered in my home state of Indiana. I did not know they made bait stations. Makes since that they would.

I work at Orkin and we typically only use sentricon for preventative (with a guarantee that we will use termidor if termites become present) and light termite activity on a home (with termidor in the active areas). Beyond that we use termidor treatments for anything moderate to heavy activity. We also don’t manipulate or lie to anyone, Orkin would fire someone for being dishonest. “Hey Mr & Mrs, we offer a termite preventative product call sentricon, it does work based off of how termites forage but we offer a guarantee on it incase they do make it passed the stations (it happens but our branch has only had 2 houses in 10 years) we come out yearly and inspect the house inside and out and change the bait at yearly intervals.

I need a drink, to watch the rest of this😂😂

Hi Dan, iam planning to do a Taurus SC Liquid termite treatment how many time do i need to apply this across the perimeter is this a one time application or couple of times an year when it says it protects for 5 to 10 years some says do it 2-3 time an year so iam confused how many time do i need to apply to make the house termite safe please advise and also advise if there are any reference material that i know.

Very good video mate. I'm from Australia. Considering buying a termite infested property near the beach.

Great video, Dan. Very persuasive argument. Keep up the good work!

You are going to ruffle some feathers with this one. I'll get the popcorn...

I've seen sentricon work, both when used with a liquid treatment and not. to me its not a ripoff, I've seen it eliminate colonies.

So is liquid 100 percent effective ?

I cant believe you guys would take his word for it. He has a video on a liquid treatment on a house with active termitres and he doenst drill the patios that are connected to the house. He claimed he followed state laws, I cant think of one state that would allow a company to put a house on contract without a full treatment Most of all Dan is being paid by Control Solutions, thats why he always mentions Taurus and not Termindor SE and you can forget about him talking about Termindor HE, which is a better product because Control Solutions doesn't make it yet

Terminix gave me a quote of $1500 to install 12 stations. They said there is a warranty of up to $275 k. They said if there is damage they pay up to 275K to fix the damage . They don't really tell me how that works but when I look at the contract that they want me to sign , there is a lot of fine prints . Im thinking not to sign up and do the preventive treatment myself. Your thoughts ?

I had a termite license for 10 years. 4 things I learned. 1. Bait stations are bs 2. So is Orange oil 4. Always Fumigate for drywoods 5. Termidor/taurus sc is king for subterraneans

Currently had 30 of these put in for active Formosan and sub terrain termite's. Currently 6 months into this and still very active termites inside the house. Have holes in the wall where they have ate the decking and 2x4's to nothing left. They are eating away at the house and the company doesn't seem to care about getting these termites killed. They put in above ground bait stations. They come back every 2 weeks and replace the bait. Never did any sort of liquids. Need a true professional if you know anyone in the Lake Jackson, TX area that actually is a professional in termites.

Dan, Can you recommend a company in Southern NH that will treat my home with Taurus SC?

Strange. Just a couple years ago you said with confidence that bait stations work and work very well. Maybe not as well as chemical liquid treatments, but pretty close. Not you are saying bait stations are a scam. What happened?

Just found thermites on my raised garden beds. Is it safe to use Taurus sc near consumer plants (tomatoes, peppers, etc.)?

Used spectracide stations and within three weeks had indicators up. Thought it was a false positive but had small white larve earth the bait. Now on to the drench

So I have termites on some of my trees and plants on my yard, but no evidence on the house. Would it be a good idea to install my own bait? And just check them every few months?

Wow. I never knew! Dan, I rent a large home built in the last 4 years. My landlord doesn't provide pest maintenance, I haven't seen any issues. Would you recommend a pest inspection before paying for regular maintenance, or how do I not get ripped off?

Thank you Dan!

Hey Dan, I tried to order Taurus SC from DoMyOwn pest control but they won't ship to South Carolina, do you have any other recommendations for people living in states where Taurus SC cannot be purchased.

I got a quote for 1200. I bought a huge Taurus sc and dug around my house myself!!!! 10 years of protection! $100.00 bucks and done

This 100% has an agenda due to Sentricon pissing you off. Bait stations are needed if liquid application is impossible. It's still better having something than nothing. Bait should ALWAYS be secondary. If it's just the money situation, I don't charge for station checks, I offer that as a free service on top of other services or part of the initial implementation. But if I need to replace Bait, I charge. I liked your channel, but this is just making pest controllers who have tried to help their clients look bad. This video will always come up whenever I recommend bait stations in the future. So thank you, now I have to try and protect someone's home, where liquid can't get to. Like their prize-winning garden beds against their home. Try convincing them to trench up their garden 😂 they'd rather have termites eat their house then have anything hurt their garden.

With foams I find drilling the spots you want to treat is good, drilling a few 1/8" holes is easily patched, and if the termites are only cruising through the timbers in the wall and not the voids you kinda have to drill into the timber, nothing more satisfying than the sound of the termidor foam filling an entire 2x4 🤤🤤🤤🤤

Can you use the Taurus SC for insects outside around the house?

I had liquid fail 3 times in 4 years. Twice done professionally. What seemed to have worked is having all the walls inside the house filled with terminator and having having the bathroom drilled and drilling into underneath the foundation with liquid but then. They also put in bait stations for me for free. My annual contract for the bait station is a hundred and fifty dollars a year. That includes a 1 million dollar structural damage gaurantee. I have it in writing.

Please, double-check your facts. In my 20-plus years in the industry, I have witnessed many liquid failures. Where are the studies that liquid will eliminate the colony? I understand that you may not like baits, but please be honest when giving your opinion.

Bro you’re incredible!! My family and I LOVE THIS CHANNEL My friends runs a termite company and they never really prevented any termite infestation with those bate stations and your right. They now use Tourus SC and they have successfully saved a lot of homes. But I ordered that product and trenched it in MYSELF THANKS TO YOUR CHANNEL 👍👍👍👍👍

Do termites make a knocking sound on the walls inside a home thank you

I live in Tampa, FL.I have been seeing a lot of wings in my garage and window sill in the house, I had my pest control people come out and see what was going on. He said termite swarming. He inspected my entire home and up in the attic and found no activity or signs of termite damage. Suggested using the Sentricon system around my home and an outbuilding. My home has a lot of wood inside (floors, walls, etc.) and outside. The price he quoted to me was $3975 for installation and $580 per year for warranty. Being a senior that is a lot of money. But, I do not want my home to be damaged. The only other way he said would be to tent which was a quote of $7000 plus remove my pool screen. So, I'm wondering how you feel about this. I think I should for sure get another company out for a quote but feel pretty sure it would be close to the same as I got from the first guy. Help!!!!!

I think I will try that wood around outside, sounds good

I too hate them, for many reasons, the worst example is when people only install the timber monitoring devices and not the always active rod, 3 monthly visits that end up not even happening and then people get termites anyway or if the controller does keep coming it milks the customer to the point they then hate pest controllers and when they do get an active station baiting them needs so many bait replacements, sometimes the termites don't take the bait and abandon the station less so with high density rods, they generally take, but using stuff you have to mix with water, I hate that, you only need a couple jobs out of 100 where they dont take the bait even when they are channeling right next to the station to test the limits of your patience lol, using just timber to me is just a straight up scam, the always active rod less so, but still it can take several rod replacements and sometimes 2 years! For them to finally stop attacking that active station and be presumed dead, but then you go turn over a log 20 feet away and find termites anyway after baiting for freaking years! The caps go brittle faster than the rods go old. And oh boy when they don't touch any stations but eat someone's house anyway, customers loooove that...not. In conjunction with something like Taurus or in very specific use cases, It should almost never be the first option IMO and to the people saying "I use only sentricons for prevention for years with 0 issues " I would say 1. Maybe you aren't good at finding termites in houses or following up on your work in general lol 2. You don't actually have enough jobs done to have good data. 3. If you have callbacks for chemical but not stations you might be doing something wrong, a termite getting through chemical would be like a person trying to swim through an ocean of fentanyl lol 4. Would you do a pretreatment to a slab by doing no physical barrier, nothing on the penetrations, no chemical to the soil, none of the usual things, just plonk the house on soil and slap stations around it? Heck no you wouldn't so why do you think it's so different post construction? If you have a nice open subfloor that can be sprayed and an easy to treat perimeter why are you using stations at every job?! I think I know why! lazy!!!

Friend of mine owns a pest control company. He does not use them. His logic is why would you bait termites into your yard in the 1st place. If they did a good job with your bond, that's all you need.

Well I live in mountains of NC, got a well known p.c. company to install bait stations. That I was told the termites find and take back to colony and die. Each year they inspect crawl space, and twice a year inspect bait stations. They have found termites twice in different locations. But claim don't worry it will kill them.. also never replaced any of baits in 3 years, claims baits last long time. Also did I forget to say I pay $ 580.00 per year for this. I am to old to be digging ditches around house. And here in mountains you can't find anybody that wants to work

What qualifications does someone need to check these stations

Wow. Apparently you’d go to great lengths to misinform people. My friend I use Sentricon daily. 365 days a year ongoing with these stations I return very little for extra work to the same house. Very very little. You need to get your facts straight Dan.

What about carpenter ant bait station? Is this a scam?

Where's your PPE while touching active termite bait stations?

Dude your beef is with sentricon,Not the system itself.Look at it like this the bait stations are an added extra barrier like granular is to a liquid perimeter treatment.dont know where you are but come on down to good old hot as hell florida and tell the many rich or retirees that they can dig some trenches or drill and drop some bait stations.😂all my customers who have sentricons are on a quarterly ghp service as well,and guess what im treating the perimeter with?fuse.

In California you cannot recommend bait station as a primary treatment. It was considered substandard now California wants less chemicals so they are pushing the bait stations now.

You can not do a liquid treatment if they have a well or if there is a water source nearby. You also can not do a baiting system in cities. They both are good options, and neither are a scam. The renewal price for the warranty on both liquid and bait stations is the same, but the installation of the bait stations is cheaper than the treatment of liquid. Liquid treatment also degrades and needs to be redone every 10-15 years while bait stations are checked once a year and are replaced as needed, which is covered under the warranty. It's a little odd, too, that you have a video from 2 years ago where you're a lot more friendly towards bait stations than you are now. There is definitely a lot of bias in this video, and I think it could be because your company decided to stop using bait. If you are in the South, I understand because it's cut throat down there, and you also have drywood termites, whereas in the Northeast, it's really only ever subterranean termites.

You're getting paid for saying this. You used defend TBS.

What a video . Completely agree 100% . I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve crawled customers houses who had those bait stations and found active termites . Termite bait stations are indeed a complete scam . Liquid treatment is the way to go . Can’t go wrong with fipronil .

I have them every 5 ft. It's a lot but they do work.

Monitoring stations MAY be.a waste but active bait stations do work. *Comment sent before finishing video*

My man got alllllllll the heat in the comments. Im just here to watch so he gets his KZfaq buckaroonies. Yall

Sentricon is a scam you are correct. Trelona ATBS is the only station that works pretty well if done correctly. However we always say liquid is a must if there is an active colony present/obvious before we can even discuss trelona.

I live in Asia and in my country there's a termite bait in form of a box, you install it in the house. (work the same way as the stick one but just for intercepting the termite path inside the house). Glad I've watch this video before I use one of these. It's quite expensive as well, you could buy a lot of thing with those money xD. ngl their lie worked on me xD (I was using Fipronil/trench myself, saw an ad and like wow so cool is this effective it would require less work for me. I just want to protect my home.)

There is so much science and studies that back up stations. The problem is the when they aren’t checked correctly. Those stations destroy the entire colony.

Amen brother 18 years here in the industry and bait stations are a complete sham!! Good for you !!

Thanks

While I agree with much of what you have said on this video. There are reasons to use bait stations on basterdized home construction areas where drilling is not an option.

I agree with this 100%. I’ve been back to houses after years of having station service installed to “renew the warranty”. And found many empty pods with active termites crawling all over them. I install bait stations because my company pays me to, but I really don’t think they work very well at all.

Hey Dan! Thanks for this info! Bait stations never made sense to me, I avoid them. Best regards, Katie's dad.

What’s your recommendation for treating a home with well water? And the well pump is in a room inside the house. Pretty sure it is dug deep but I’m worried about the soil treatment approach contaminating our water supply..

12 to 20 read the label. And they are looking for cellulose not wood fool

I don't doubt that liquid treatments work, but you give off such strong vibes that tell people that your beef with Sentricon is based on personal reasons

So if your an experienced inspector you should know you never tell someone they don’t have any termites , because the truth is it’s a visual inspection and you don’t know for sure if they do or not. You can’t see in all the walls unless you deface them. So regardless every homeowner should prevent even if no evidence is seen. Facts!!! Based on my experience bait has been way better & it’s not close.

Man, your passion on this subject really shows. A home inspector told me years ago they were a scam, but didn't go into details. Thanks for this video.

I think it depends on where you live

That's how companies get rich by recurring revenue

Wrong! When I first started 18 years ago and Sentricon used a different bait and we still had many liquid accounts we would have 10+ "swarms" a day of existing customers in April now we dont have more than 10 (that are actually termites) a year, with 1‐3 swarming out of the structure. My company does not ever treat with liquid with the Sentricon System, we use above ground stations for active termites. The bait is not just "wood soaked in chemical" and we do remove the stations when you cancel. It might be a few months but we will remove them. I promise you it works, and I'm not just saying that because my company uses it believe it or not.