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Dapol O Scale vs. OO Scale | Let's Compare

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I noticed that Dapol produce many of the same models in O and OO gauge, so I decided to compare some!
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0:00 Intro
1:55 Price Comparison
3:44 Weight Comparison
5:02 Detail Comparison
9:12 Performance Comparison
20:41 The Results

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@davidford85
@davidford85 11 ай бұрын
When it comes to weight, the O scale models should weigh around 5.36 times the weight of the OO versions if just straight scaled up. This is due to the fact that O scale, at 7mm to the foot, is 1.75 times OO scale at 4mm to the foot, and being three dimensional objects that increase is cubed. Obviously Dapol haven't just taken their designs and made them larger, but it's still curious that both the Sentinel and the Terriers are less than that, and that the B4 is significantly above that. This is one of the many problems engineers face when using scale models to test designs. When the length of an object is halved, the area decreases by 4 times, and the volume by 8 times. This means a model of an A1 Terrier would have a 'scale' weight in OO of 63grams and in O just 339grams, which would represent an issue when pulling trains.
@iancooper4797
@iancooper4797 11 ай бұрын
A very useful set of tests to determine which locomotives are more desirable. Speed should be a factor by 170% and 1•7×1•7×1•7 for 4.913. (Mass). One day I will compare my Sentinel, Terriers, L&B (009 and 0-16.5) Manning Wardle 2-6-2T's and Adam's B4 0-4-0T's. It's just a question of finding the space to assemble the various gauges of track required.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
That's really interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@redversb2347
@redversb2347 11 ай бұрын
Can't get over the Boxhill Banana. It's even a yellowish colour! 😂
@Alextrains502
@Alextrains502 11 ай бұрын
Sam you should make a video where you take a look at your fans layouts and give them a rating
@MG-Driver
@MG-Driver 11 ай бұрын
I'd put mine up
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 11 ай бұрын
Its a great idea but I don’t think it would be fair. All kinds of people watch Sam’s videos each with differing modelling abilities to another..
@Somestupidity
@Somestupidity 11 ай бұрын
You watch Sam too?
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
@@terrier_productions agreed, love the idea, but alas it would be unfair, and a little rude possibly to beginners (not saying sams a bad guy because that's not true, but he's honest, which could be a bit unincouraging to beginners).
@Alextrains502
@Alextrains502 11 ай бұрын
@@Somestupidity yes
@CaseyJonesNumber1
@CaseyJonesNumber1 11 ай бұрын
Oh dear, the 00 Terrier looks like it's been in a collision - not just a bowed running plate, but the tanks and cab both lean in opposite directions...
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 11 ай бұрын
Always nice when you upload something about o scale!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I do love O scale :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ethangeorge8980
@ethangeorge8980 11 ай бұрын
I really love your O Scale videos, really helped me get into the hobby and I’m from America so I’ve been really trying my best to get my hands on British locomotives. Which I bought from Hattons.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you were able to get your hands on some!!
@Igstormchaser
@Igstormchaser 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, we're mostly stuck with 3-rail O scale and its just unrealistic
@RonCooper-nl4pn
@RonCooper-nl4pn 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, a brilliant video, and I purchased a B4 O gauge DCC with sound after your review and is my one and only 0-4-0 locomotive, what a fantastic model. I don’t like Terriers and I have a Y3 in O gauge kit built that I inherited and is a good runner. I still purchase OO gauge so it was great to see your video on the comparisons. I do always fit crews to all my locos and oil lamps. 🚂👍😃🚂
@lindaoffenbach
@lindaoffenbach 11 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison Sam. Perhaps what stands out the most for O are realistic couplings. We always find the couplers to be quite long and rather absurd in OO. For H0 they are at least short and neat but nowhere near real-life. In O they are genuinely authentic 🙂
@RonCooper-nl4pn
@RonCooper-nl4pn 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam me again, a tender locomotive in O gauge by Dapol it got to be a GWR City of Truro ( Duke Dog ) I don’t have one in any gauge, It’s time I did get one !
@Zebrails
@Zebrails 11 ай бұрын
So, Sam... you need to buy an O Scale Flying Scotsman to compare the TT, OO, and O Scale versions... right? John BC, Canada
@scotsleader8304
@scotsleader8304 11 ай бұрын
*Your Pokéloco has just evolved!*
@jeffreybolton2915
@jeffreybolton2915 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam I would like to see the C14 class produced by Dapol in 0 scale .
@trainsuk3525
@trainsuk3525 11 ай бұрын
I've pre ordered black 5 with sound from Ellis Clarke 0 gauge will post when it arrives
@ToastTheThe
@ToastTheThe 11 ай бұрын
U should compare dapols rolling stock lol I got some of the dapols oo scale vans and yikes those things can't stay on the ground if they tried too
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
That could be cool too actually, I didn't think about doing rolling stock!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@nathanbowers6364
@nathanbowers6364 11 ай бұрын
If I was starting from scratch I'd go for 0 gauge, for my interest (branch lines and short trains) there's not much difference in price.
@lapiswake6583
@lapiswake6583 11 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in a 121/122 or GWR bubble car comparison as well. I don't have many modern Dapol 4mm locos, only really a pair of 68s tbh, but I have a few more in 7mm. I really want a 7mm Manor from Dapol. I'm modelling a western region branch line, so I have a rule that says nothing larger than a Manor or a 37, excepting heavy freight steamers (like a 28xx or WD 8F). Except no one does a RTR Manor yet, and the heljan 37s are a bit above my current price range...
@Valleys56xx
@Valleys56xx 11 ай бұрын
O gauge is beginning to attract me a lot with these lovely locos being a *lot* less than the new OO gauge releases. I may have to build a 12 x 2 end to end shunting or MPD layout just for the heck of it... I've handled a few hand made O gauge locos at my MRC and they are truly wonderful and I've aways lusted after that level of weight and gravitas... and the proper couplings lol - also at my age, I can see the detail better.
@Elvinley
@Elvinley 11 ай бұрын
Dapol make the Terrier in 3 scales: O, OO and N. The N gauge one came first, followed by the O Gauge and then the OO.
@StockportJambo
@StockportJambo 11 ай бұрын
Nice video, but I do wish you'd cover Dapol's N gauge models sometimes.
@jurgenihlau4052
@jurgenihlau4052 Ай бұрын
I would be interested to know whether the better selection of 0 gauge material also gives a better sound than 00 gauge?
@amagames914
@amagames914 11 ай бұрын
Hey sam can you make a review about the prr t1 4-4-4-4 i just love this loco and would be so happy to see you review it even if its old😅
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 11 ай бұрын
Decent video here Sam, although O scale,is nice I think for me I would be staying OO die to how much I have in OO gauge already, talking about that I received my heljan 10800 prototype locomotive and as I predicted it is an excellent model from them, need to still look for a terrier myself a really nice locomotive those are.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks David! This shows that in general you don't get that much more detail in O scale, though I do think it's true you get to appreciate it more in O scale due to the extra size. Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TheRailroader576
@TheRailroader576 11 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, Sam! Yet another great video from my favourite model railway reviewer. Fun fact! I have exactly one O gauge locomotive. It's an AHM Prussian 0-6-0t, in a quite inaccurate AT&SF livery. Speaking of my own model trains, I plan to buy a Mainline Collett Goods along with some rolling stock on Christmas.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 11 ай бұрын
Expect to see lots of similarities between the Mainline Collet goods and early eighties Bachmann HO steam locos. Same factory and mechanism.
@TheRailroader576
@TheRailroader576 11 ай бұрын
@@johnd8892 yeah, I'm aware that they used basically the same chassis, and VERY aware of the split axle problem. I can deal with it tho
@ItsTrainFun
@ItsTrainFun 11 ай бұрын
They are just being smart, like Fleischmann and Roco. Both are the same company, only Fleischmann is N scale and Roco is H0, so they make each others locomotives and wagons in other scale. They just send each other the drawings and they change is so it fits in the scale. I think Depol is doing the same, and it's very smart of then.
@NatureWellbeing365
@NatureWellbeing365 11 ай бұрын
The o gauge terrier loco is a work of art imho. Stunning.
@andrewdking
@andrewdking 11 ай бұрын
Dapol do an N-gauge version as well !
@StanDoesTrains
@StanDoesTrains 11 ай бұрын
Love to see your O scale locos. Cant wait to see what you add to your 0 scale Collection Next.
@IsaacDaBoatSloth
@IsaacDaBoatSloth 11 ай бұрын
hey sam you should try t gauge and see how much/little it differs from tt and oo in stuff like detail
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
An O Scale Large Prairie would be awesome!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
It would be!!
@Kilnline
@Kilnline 11 ай бұрын
Heljan already made one but sadly it had the classic Heljan steam loco issues.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
@@Kilnline really? I've never seen that. If it has issues though them maybe it would be a good opportunity for Dapol.
@Kilnline
@Kilnline 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, they did it as their entry into O gauge steam before the 43xx. Definitely not the easiest things to convert to DCC sound either. I wish Dapol would do a more affordable larger loco, but I think that's what Lionheart are going to concentrate on.
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
@@Kilnline Yeah, only they aren't affordable. Thought of getting into O Gauge myself, just didn't because the large locos cost sooo much. Id pretty much be restricted to Dapol Tank Engines.
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 11 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s the working couplings being standard in o scale that impresses me most. Only one manufacturer made working screw links in oo. I do hope to be the second to manufacture them sometime in the future. I’ll make sure you can buy them assembled though ;)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Yeah absolutely - it's just big enough to make that work really well! It'd be cool to see more in OO, but I guess the market is small for that due to how fiddly it is! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 11 ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains The ones exactoscale made years ago had to be assembled and were £10-£14! I do hope I can make more accurate, assembled, and less delicate ones when I get the capability! Thanks!
@russellguyver7746
@russellguyver7746 11 ай бұрын
A few years ago you did a video on buying 2nd hand. Can you do an up to date version, perhaps making up different 2nd hand sets. Many modellers can't afford £250 for a set so 2nd hand is the main option....
@acousticape
@acousticape 11 ай бұрын
Hello sam great video do you plan to look at the o gauge 57xx in the future
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains 11 ай бұрын
It is understandable that is is easier for a manufacturer to produce the same loco in two gauges rather than produce different models for each gauge. From the point of view of the collector, you don't really want the same loco in two sizes! It is a bit of a disappointment that all the new TT:120 stuff, is shrunk down versions of the old OO gauge stuff. Of all the gauges and scales, OO gauge is definitely the best scale. It is large enough to give detail and small enough not to require a huge room! Thanks for uploading.
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios 11 ай бұрын
12:54 is it just me Sam, or does the cab look like it's not fitted on properly. Lol Cheers Jasper & Willow
@elsbridgeproductions
@elsbridgeproductions 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, just wondering if you're planning to review the new Accurascale Manor? It looks amazing and I'd love to see an in-depth comparison to the Dapol version before I buy one
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 11 ай бұрын
I'd imagine he will. He normally reviews everything when it comes out.
@joshnash7772
@joshnash7772 11 ай бұрын
You should review N scale locos too.
@give_me_a_break_get_it
@give_me_a_break_get_it 11 ай бұрын
When will you do a vid on the new catalog?
@RichardKuivila1947
@RichardKuivila1947 11 ай бұрын
What's inside ? O scale has a 9 pole motor ?
@Flyingscottsman
@Flyingscottsman 11 ай бұрын
@SamsTrains did you get the interesting rail vehicle photos I e- mailed to you
@callumdebruyn5620
@callumdebruyn5620 11 ай бұрын
When ar you doing the Accurascale manor
@bryantan863
@bryantan863 11 ай бұрын
Hey there Sam, are going to review the new Accurascale GWR 7800 Manor Class on your channel soon?
@jeffreysmith156
@jeffreysmith156 11 ай бұрын
Very good. Small O scale engines have struck me as providing reasonable value for money for a while now, providing you have an O gauge layout of course!
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios 11 ай бұрын
I think Dapol should make the beattie well tank in O gauge Sam. Although I wonder how much they would be. Cheers Jasper & Willow
@CaptSolo1977
@CaptSolo1977 11 ай бұрын
Great video Sam! Very well done.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! :D
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 11 ай бұрын
Great video, and nice idea for a comparison. For my own, I would be happy if Dapol does an OO version of their N scale 9F, Britannia class, and class 35 (I have them all in N). and a OO gronk by them would be great too ! They already have one in O, that would be easy for them...
@nameless5413
@nameless5413 11 ай бұрын
Going by logic of "well if its big you may go gargantuan" Beyer Garett in 0 scale? or the exact opposite, get the smallest terrier you can find to go 0 scale. On THAT note i wonder, would mr. Sam's trains care to make larger scale model via his printers? maybe that could help with some detailing and in any ways would be amusing to see him wrestle with being thrown off his comffort zone scale, i reckon that is best way to improve - constantly challanging one's own craft to higher standard or unusual ideas. Slightly strange but amusing idea to review differences across scales on same model by same company. hopefully it trends upwards in quality over time as 3 are slightly too small example size, tho could show general trend.
@ricktownend9144
@ricktownend9144 11 ай бұрын
Great video, and very enjoyable to watch. Reminded me of what my mum said (years ago) to my fiancee when I was taking her to a model railway show - 'You mustn't say "What a ducky little engine" ' ...
@lucprovencher9411
@lucprovencher9411 11 ай бұрын
why have you not used your class 08?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Because Dapol don’t make one in OO scale!
@Henry_N.W.R_engine_3
@Henry_N.W.R_engine_3 11 ай бұрын
Love seeing O scale Sam, but i would one day love to see you review some large/G scale locomotives 😄
@sailingschooners8668
@sailingschooners8668 11 ай бұрын
G scale is magnificent and at the other end of the scale so is Z scale...
@Henry_N.W.R_engine_3
@Henry_N.W.R_engine_3 11 ай бұрын
Sure is
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Brian! :D
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 11 ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains you're welcome 😊 buddy 😊
@Ever_2008_ARG
@Ever_2008_ARG 11 ай бұрын
The "Little baby Sentinel" bit was kinda offensive, you're gonna hurt the poor thing's feelings!
@kellyashfordtrains2642
@kellyashfordtrains2642 11 ай бұрын
My favourite O Gauge model in your collection is the GWR Auto Tank Engine.
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 11 ай бұрын
Prototype Deltic in O gauge 😊
@Alextrains502
@Alextrains502 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Alex! :D
@lukeheichlinger7810
@lukeheichlinger7810 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen your OO scale terrier in a while and I was absolutely blown away bow how warped the running board was. It was almost as if the locomotive was melting or sagging by the fire box, almost like a cartoon. (Perhaps a little too dramatic) but my point still stands! 😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, not impressed with the quality of those Dapol ones, that’s why the simpler Hornby ones were better!
@mattski8787
@mattski8787 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, great video. My little lad and i always look forward to an upload. Ive always been a OO modeller/collector and just puchased a Heljan class 60 in O gauge and 2x MGR wagons. The physical size of O makes me smile! Some of the inflated prices of OO compared to O im wondering if OO is expensive or O gauge is cheap?
@Gatherleymodeller.
@Gatherleymodeller. 11 ай бұрын
Sam, thanks for making fascinating videos on model railway... Could you do a video on running a loco through fire. It sounds silly, but I can imagine it being really fun...
@davidbugler4597
@davidbugler4597 11 ай бұрын
Excellent idea to compare the scales -- and if anything it shows how the growing popularity of 0 is forcing the 00 manufacturers to up their game in terms of detail in order to stay competitive. I have the 0 Gauge B4, and the cab on mine sits down perfectly right out of the box. You could try refitting the protruding nut, or maybe grind it down a little. I do think the LSWR green is a little too light in colour here, old photos show Adams 'holly green' goods livery much darker than the 'pea green'' passenger livery -- and indeed Dapol's own pre-production drawings show a dark green colour. But it's a beautiful beast anyway. As to ideas for Daopol's possible next combo, I'd really like to see them produce the Beyer 'Metropolitan' 4-4-0T -- especially now that we are getting really excellent 19th-century 4 and 6-wheel coaches to suit. Kits for these fascinating tank locos have been produced in both scales, but I think are now long out of production.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 11 ай бұрын
Interesting comparisons 🤔🚂🚂🚂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks James!
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 11 ай бұрын
That running plate on the OO Terrier just ruins the whole look. It looks like it's broken in the middle. Not a good look for Rails' first exclusive.
@johnrobson4230
@johnrobson4230 11 ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest differences between oo and o gauge which you failed to mention is that of the couplings! No massive protruding hooks on the O gauge 🤗 but, still a good video! Well done Sam
@davidhinks8384
@davidhinks8384 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, interesting & fun. Always seemed to me that O is better value than OO (my gauge). I was shocked how bowed the oo terrier running plate is as I was thinking of getting one of the Rails in GWR livery. A win for Hornby at last?? Cheers as always.
@andrewknights1304
@andrewknights1304 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, interesting idea behind this video... To answer your question regarding what should Dapol do in O? How about the new Hawthorn Leslie in O as well as the new OO model? Cheers
@pemboart
@pemboart 11 ай бұрын
Why is your OO Terrier shaped like a Banana? lol
@star86703
@star86703 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video 😊👍🤩😎
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Sam :D
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting video today Sam I am looking forward to see what dapol has planned
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 11 ай бұрын
Love to see the flying Scotsman in o scale.
@markweightman3805
@markweightman3805 11 ай бұрын
Ace video Sam, I do enjoy the comparison videos.. Many thanks and we'll done... But which was your favourite out of the 00 scale locos...???
@timbervalleyproductions
@timbervalleyproductions 11 ай бұрын
Great vid, very interesting comparisons. You got your.manor yet?
@meiriongwril9696
@meiriongwril9696 11 ай бұрын
Day-pol not dappol!
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios 11 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised about the differences between the two scales Sam. For me it has to be the b4, I absolutely love those models Cheers Jasper & Willow
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I love those B4s too, particularly in O scale... one of Dapol's very best efforts! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@JustinFrazier_360
@JustinFrazier_360 11 ай бұрын
So amazing video
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Justin :D
@brianmicky7596
@brianmicky7596 11 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, Good review, Overall I would say good judgement , spot on, All the best Brian 😃
@glennwoods2462
@glennwoods2462 11 ай бұрын
Interesting...👍🏼
@Peppercorn60163Tornado
@Peppercorn60163Tornado 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got that Boxhill model! Is it a Locomotion Models exclusive? If so then that’s the exact one I’ve got!
@kenruble5292
@kenruble5292 11 ай бұрын
Letting the drivers slip while doing a pulling test gives a false reading as moving friction is less than static friction.
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios 11 ай бұрын
Am I really First Sam. Lol
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
You are!! :D
@kennethmaney914
@kennethmaney914 11 ай бұрын
Make yourself a better man,SAM...JUST SAY NO.
@Platform5
@Platform5 11 ай бұрын
Hello! (First)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Nearly! But hello :D
@ivandeolarte4079
@ivandeolarte4079 11 ай бұрын
First
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
A close second!
@TrainFan591
@TrainFan591 11 ай бұрын
Pin pls first comment!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 11 ай бұрын
Ooh not quite!!
@TrainFan591
@TrainFan591 11 ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains noooooooo
@kennethmaney914
@kennethmaney914 11 ай бұрын
Try complaining about the prices ,and encourage people not to buy. Just stop buying and paying overblown prices for toys. The Chinese have got us by the throat now.Start low and end up high. Nearly 300 pounds or more for toys is unexceptionable. Put your money where your mouth is. JUST SAY NO
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