Darden Leadership Ride Elective Course: Spring 2013, Class 3

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Darden Leadership Ride - Chancellorsville and Gettysburg: Leadership Lessons From the Battlefields of the Civil War. University of Virginia Civil War historian Gary Gallagher leads a classroom session that offers lessons on strategy, communication and leadership inspired by two key battles of the Civil War.

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@suepederson5916
@suepederson5916 4 ай бұрын
2-4-2024. Just found this series on you tube. I’m 72 and found out a couple years ago that I had a great grandfather in the civil war. It’s now my passion to learn. Gary is the best teacher I’ve ever heard. School would have been so much better with his style of delivery!
@aliard1
@aliard1 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic series of lectures. Dr. Gallagher is one of the best instructors on the Civil War.
@stevestringer7351
@stevestringer7351 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic lecture series!!!
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I thought about while he was asking if Meade should've attacked after Pickett's failure: There's still some 140 cannons sitting in front of the Confederate line. Alexander may have shot up all their long range ammo, but they've still got cannister and grape plus thousands of soldiers and the Union would also have that mile of open ground to cross. Gen. Hunt wrote in "Battles and Leaders" that, while Hancock had every right as commander of his section to order the artillery to fire, they didn't have long range ammo when the rebs did finally cross and that allowed them to breech the wall, leading to heavy fighting and disorganization in the II Corp section, which he said "spoiled any chance of a counterattack" and also left the rebs with higher morale than they'd have felt if the attack was a complete failure. Something to think about. Also although the VI Corps didn't fight, it was spread out in support all along the line so it wasn't a matter of just forming them up and sending them across that field to attack.
@andrewsilverstein6186
@andrewsilverstein6186 Жыл бұрын
A wonderful historian and teacher
@jallenecs
@jallenecs 10 жыл бұрын
Does anybody have a reading list for this lecture series?
@carolbell8008
@carolbell8008 4 жыл бұрын
That is so interesting about Dan Sickles “saving the battle for the blue!! I knew that he was very gallant, but didn’t know he was not a west pointer nor exactly what he had done at Gettysburg. This is fantastic!!
@jamiebusch4911
@jamiebusch4911 2 жыл бұрын
I had to look him up... didn't know he murdered Francis Scott Keys son (!) and got away with it in the first-ever use of the "temporary insanity" plea... And introduced his (prostitute) girlfriend to Queen Victoria..! Stranger than fiction.
@mikehjt
@mikehjt Жыл бұрын
Lawyers will often bring up in court evidence that tells against their case for two purposes: 1) to address it on your own terms, especially if you are going first; and 2) because it looks less damning if you bring it up rather than the other side throwing it in your face - it communicates 'This is no big whoop.' Too many folk get their idea of lawyering from Law & Order which does a terrible job of showing how actual trials are done. In L&O, lawyers regularly call witnesses without right off the bat bringing up their criminal record. IRL, no competent lawyer introduces a witness who has a criminal record without bringing it up themself and right off the bat where you can address the record and make clear to a jury (or judge) that you're not trying to hide anything and that it's no big whoop (you hope).
@jeffreyriley8742
@jeffreyriley8742 8 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the idea that Lee was in the North to be more of an irritant influenced Stuart's cavalier attitude towards doing his job. If he expected a pitched battle, he obviously would have stayed closer to Lee.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 4 жыл бұрын
You have to look back to the cavalry battle at Brandy Station and the resulting criticism of Stuart to understand his actions leading up to Gettysburg.
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 3 ай бұрын
The oroblem is that we have here not trained soldiers that worked their way over years through the ranjs nor an understanding of how an army works and what following an order means. It is the difference between people having a hobby and professionals working in a company with yhousands of employes and naking it work.
@mcfail3450
@mcfail3450 2 ай бұрын
Basically Stuart and Lee both planned for Stuart to ride around the Union army like he did to Hooker. They both approved the plan and Lee deserves as much blame as Stuart. The part both failed fo realize is that Hooker's union army was stationary so riding around it took less time. With this gettysburg campaign the union army was moving north and so for Stuart to ride around it and link back up too much longer. If Gary is going to defend Lee and say he isn't to blame because he thinks Stuart is so great then Lee also should then have judged that if Stuart hasn't shown up yet something is delaying his link up and that something must be the union army moving north. But Lee completely fails to realize that.
@jeffreyriley8742
@jeffreyriley8742 8 жыл бұрын
29:21 This is an awesome part.
@jamesa.7604
@jamesa.7604 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy Dr. Gallagher's lectures but I'm not sure I'd want to be one of his students....Lol
@hardheadjarhead
@hardheadjarhead 3 жыл бұрын
He’s direct, he’s tough, but he’s not mean. I’d totally take a class with him.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me why Spring Class 2 was removed? F-ing YT.
@mcfail3450
@mcfail3450 2 ай бұрын
Also wondering this.
@kennethmorgan6516
@kennethmorgan6516 10 ай бұрын
There was fighting during the Confederate retreat. That was when Pettigrew was killed.
@OldePete
@OldePete 3 жыл бұрын
Who is cavalry "D", "E", and "F"? (at ~30:20)?
@OldePete
@OldePete 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind - got my answer a couple of minutes later.
@N2Dressage001
@N2Dressage001 3 жыл бұрын
Reading the written docs, Lee was targeting Gettysburg as early as fall 1862.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 2 жыл бұрын
Lee's target was Harrisburg and destroying the B&O bridge over the Susquehanna totally disrupting the movement of troops and supplies from the west. Gettysburg was just peripheral damage... major peripheral damage but it wasn't an intended target (from what I've read.)
@N2Dressage001
@N2Dressage001 2 жыл бұрын
@@indy_go_blue6048 Disagree, I see it was a feint. Reynolds, in his zeal, fell for Lee drawing him in to Gettysburg. Lee lost it on day 1 when Johnson didn't get there in time to assist in forcing Howard off Cemetery Hill. That was key.
@N2Dressage001
@N2Dressage001 2 жыл бұрын
Further, the street grid didn't help either to allow them to form lines, particularly at the salient.
@CaptainColdyron222
@CaptainColdyron222 Жыл бұрын
Lee wasn’t specifically targeting Gettysburg in his invasion of Pennsylvania. It just happened to be place where all the roads came together and enabled the ANV to assemble. That’s the only reason the ANV ended up at Gettysburg. Lee wasn’t trying to draw Mead to Gettysburg. He was just trying to concentrate his army before Mead was able to come up and destroy the ANV in detail. He’d probably have been happy to have Mead not show up at all at Gettysburg enabling the ANV to reunite without bringing on a general engagement.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
Longstreets failure is not a “ lost cause” argument. It is truth. The criticism of Longstreet was well earned and deserved. It still baffles me how anyone can blame Lee for Longstreets insubordination. Lee didn’t order an attack at 4pm, but that’s what he got
@andythompson3777
@andythompson3777 4 жыл бұрын
True. But neither did he order an attack at dawn. That is Gallagher's point - 1. the Lost Causers claimed incorrectly that Longstreet was ordered to attack at dawn, 2. Longstreet was a poor subordinate at Gettysburg and took too long on the 2nd day. The Lost Causers had all the ammunition they needed to berate Longstreet for his behaviour on Day 2 but they overegg the pudding by lying about a dawn attack. Lee absolutely has to be made whiter than white and so they exaggerate how poor Longstreet was by making up a lie - to the extent that apparently he lost the war! - even though the historical record would have been enough evidence.
@spencerkimble3824
@spencerkimble3824 3 жыл бұрын
It is a lost cause argument. The orders were not clear to attack at dawn. Orders were clear to remain unseen (causing the delay) Longstreet did follow these orders. If lee was disappointed with Longstreet’s performance, he was never subsequently demoted or replaced indicating that. The lost causers never mention JEB Stewart, Ewell, or indeed Lee’s failures AND the biggest problem Longstreet had was that he was RIGHT
@N2Dressage001
@N2Dressage001 3 жыл бұрын
Ewell shares most of the blame for the loss by not securing Cemetery Hill on the first day.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 3 жыл бұрын
@@spencerkimble3824 wow how clever to use the same old worn out lost cause argument lol. Nobody said that the other guys are blameless. Lee, ewell, Stuart, and so on all made mistakes and share blame. I'm simply pointing out Longstreet's role in it. We could talk all day about the mistakes Lee and others made. We could talk all day about Meade, Sickies, and other Union mistakes too. Longstreet's bright idea was a pipe dream. It wasn't practicable or even possible. Entire armies and miles of supply wagons and logistics just don't pack up and move like that in front of another army who is squared off with them. You really think Meade would suck his thumb and let Lee move his entire army around and get between him and Washington?? Give the man some credit lol. There's no way that would have been allowed.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyRebKy I use the same argument about logistics. During Lee's retreat he had some 30 miles of train stretching down 2 or 3 roads; however cautious Meade might have been he wouldn't have allowed it to happen. I also tend to think that, however wise it might have looked in hindsight, had Hood been allowed to circle behind the two Round Tops he would've run smack dab into the V Corp which was at that time just NE of LRT. They would've been unsupported and isolated and possibly wiped out. JMO.
@limalonges1
@limalonges1 10 жыл бұрын
concur with Richard meyer
@spencerkimble3824
@spencerkimble3824 3 жыл бұрын
Meade moved people around at Gettysburg. Rosecrans moved people around at chickamauga…
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 2 жыл бұрын
Poor old Rosey had the misfortune of opening that gap right in front of Longstreet immediately before his attack.
@patriciafitch2432
@patriciafitch2432 Жыл бұрын
Did Lee suffer a minor heart attack during the battle of Gettysburg? Did Jeb Stuart arriving late cost Lee the battle?
@hokie7373
@hokie7373 Жыл бұрын
Lee had a cardiac event in the spring, before gettysburg
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 3 ай бұрын
It was stupid to attack where the suppprt lines for the army of the potomac are very short and Lee's army could not forage with the imminent threat of battle. We see that they did it anyway and that it was a deseaster.
@Guitcad1
@Guitcad1 5 жыл бұрын
I greatly enjoy Prof. Gallagher's lectures but I would not want to be a student in his classes. Frankly, I'd be afraid to ask questions because is so sarcastic and caustic towards his students.
@indy_go_blue6048
@indy_go_blue6048 5 жыл бұрын
I thought just the opposite. Yes, he's sarcastic at times but he usually follows it with a smile. He wants his students to THINK, not just absorb what he's teaching. I'd love to have him as a teacher, or just to sit in on these seminars or his lectures. Personally I have no problem with sarcasm IF a person can take it as well as (s)he gives it, otherwise (s)he's just an ass.
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
Well they did ask some stupid questions for people in university level history lol
@InfiniteBoredom149
@InfiniteBoredom149 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt term it as caustic. He does use a lot of sarcasms but it's just his sense of humour. Watch his other lectures and audience interactions and you would see the same approach.
@johnlafontaine4003
@johnlafontaine4003 4 жыл бұрын
I find his demeanor fun and engaging. Then again Im old.
@TheGazaMethodChannel
@TheGazaMethodChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You need to watch the old TV show about law school called Paper Chase. Now there is some real life docudrama mean and nasty. Ah the good old days. Lol
@comitatus111
@comitatus111 5 ай бұрын
Not a Confederate fan at all....but if Lee had just not engaged and pivoted around to the south east and formed up a good defensive line the war could have ended differently. As a person who loves the United States of America I am glad he made this fundamental mistake. Lee didn't deserve to win and his decisions that day saved a lot of Unites States Army lives and possibly the state of the Union.
@LeeHoFooks
@LeeHoFooks Жыл бұрын
The truth hurts. That's why this man gets some hate.
@mcfail3450
@mcfail3450 2 ай бұрын
Idk. I love him and would love to take his class and be there to press back on his Lee loving. This session he really stretched a few times when the woman asked him about Stuart and his only defense of Lee approving Stuart's bad plan was "Lee thought Stuart was great." Ok but that's not really a defense Gary. It is basically saying the truth is Lee screwed up in letting Stuart ride around the union army and take A B C with him. Lee signed off the plan and recently had seen a review of Stuart's cav corps he knew all the information yet still allowed the situation and failed to forsee an issue with having DEF with him. Gary continues to defend Lee and say "Lee is somewhat culpable" then proceeds to blast some subordinate for being themselves. Imo Lee failed to adapt after losses in leadership. He fails to adapt to different subordinates. He continues to send vague yet binding orders when his corps commanders need specifics and movement. For example Gary argues Longstreet should have made the executive decision to go right yet Lee pretty clearly forbade it. Literally loves Lee so much that even when Lee does give specific orders and someone follows them Gary says "but Lee's leadership style always allowed modification and Longstreet should have known that he could break orders." Come on man. Everyone but Lee is blamed for what they should have known but Lee isn't blamed for that same thing with Gary. My stretch theory is Lee cared alot about his reputation. He carefully lead the army in a manner in which every order he gave he wouldn't be blamed. He gave vague orders for that reason. If a subordinate failed Lee would just say "not my fault. I told him to take the hill and his plan failed." This is because Lee gave the vague order to take the hill and it was up to the commanders to make these vague demands actually happen with plans.
@adambrown798
@adambrown798 3 жыл бұрын
The reason Lee didn’t tell Hill to support Ewell is because that was the ultimate test to see if Ewell was another Jackson, or not, both in terms of aggressiveness and initiative.
@jaywinters2483
@jaywinters2483 Жыл бұрын
“Like”, “like”, “like”. 1/2 the vocabulary
@jaywinters2483
@jaywinters2483 Жыл бұрын
“like”, “like”, “like”…1/2 thier vocabulary
@jeffsmith2022
@jeffsmith2022 8 жыл бұрын
Eating and drinking in a classroom???
@Guitcad1
@Guitcad1 5 жыл бұрын
This isn't 5th grade. These are grownups.
@sandraoldfield5404
@sandraoldfield5404 5 жыл бұрын
@@Guitcad1 The sounds are awful on the video. All the cans opening
@JohnnyRebKy
@JohnnyRebKy 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie van Brewen grownups ?? Lol. Today’s 20 year olds are like 6th graders 30 years ago
@spencerkimble3824
@spencerkimble3824 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in every class I ever took in college…
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 3 ай бұрын
We did it in high school as certain teachers liked to do it themselves and we had a very productive working atmosphere.
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