Maybe the reason why no time travel ever existed irl is because everytime the machine is invented, the machine work itself out to prevent its own existance like the tanhaus machine XD

Sad Tannhaus will never realized he actually did save them. Such a good ending, loved the journey with you all! A+

- Hannah recalled the moment of her death in the last scene. - Silja named Hanno after her mother, Hannah.

There's a line in one of the first episodes when Charlotte says: "Somehow I feel like all of this is because of me..." and, well, she was absolutely right. A rewatch is a must.

Regina is the daughter of Claudia and Bernd (Doppler). Turns out Tronte was not the father, but that makes it possible for Regina to live in the origin world, since Tronte is part of the Nielsen family tree, a family that should not exist. Clauda, Bernd and Regina are all not born from Jonas and Martha,, so they exist in the origin world. Also, Claudia figured it out when she noticed that there are people in this loop that are not born from Jonas and Martha and she figured out they must come from someone else and there has to be a third world. It's a bit of a stretch, but it works. One of the best shows ever made that actually nails the ending.

And the craziest thing Tannhaus actually did save his son's life but never even gonna realize he did it. 😭

The sun never shines in the 2 worlds. Only in the original one, the sun comes through. You could say, the rest is DARK.

I like that Regina, Hannah and Katharina were friends in the origin world. No Ulrich to drive them apart or a dark loop that has it's own agenda

I'm gonna miss you three reacting to this show soo much. Love the dynamic between this trio. Funny how even you guys as reactors followed the rule of 3 without realizing it lmao.

- Tannhaus saved his family and he probably will never know about it. The most beautiful part of the show is that Tannhaus's machine worked. By creating it and creating the two other worlds, through all the events of the show it ended up saving Marek and Sonja without him even realizing it - The knot began due to a father's boundless love for his son (H.G. Tannhaus), and was ended by a mother's boundless love for her daughter (Claudia) - Time travel ended up preventing the invention of time travel! - In the beginning of Episode Seven, Tannhaus asks “can something exist, without ever existing?”. The answer is yes. Jonas and Martha saved Marek, therefore Jonas and Martha exist in Marek’s life. However, after that, Jonas and Martha deleted their existence, so they never existed. They were never born - In the original world Marek and Sonja have familiar names to Martha and Jonas: Martha = MARek TannHAus, Jonas = Sonja. And they both had been saved from drowning in water as same as St. Christoper (on a pendant) saved baby Jesus from drowning in a river - It makes sense Wöhler ended up with Hannah... Remember him saying last season he thought Hannah was the most beautiful woman in Winden. And also this season, that's why he's bothered by Ulrich for cheating on Hannah with Charlotte! - Bernd Doppler is Regina’s Father - A cool detail is that the intro song actually spoils the ending. Eva want's to keep repeating the loops so she wants a for ''ever'', Adam wants to destroy both worlds so he wants a ''never''. The song says NEITHER EVER, NOR NEVER. GOODBYE. - Even Eva thought Tronte was the father... her family tree on the floor illustrated this, but the tree was wrong, because Claudia fooled them :). These small details are spectacular. - Did you take notice that Unknown (Lip Guy) married Agnes Nielsen in both worlds? He has two Trontes, that's one of the biggest reasons why Adam thought that the unknown is the knot between the two worlds.

That shot of Jonas and Martha standing in the road is poetic. Jonas & Martha stood on the intersection of 3 roads, symbolic to the 3 worlds. Together, they exist in-between worlds, time, & space. Also if you notice the show is based on the number 3 theme. 3 seasons, 3 worlds, 3 ages and 3 time periods.

Mikkel in Season 2: "Maybe I'm just a small part of a large cancer."

Fun Fact: The actor of Woeller accidentely hit his eye before shooting, so the authors decided to put that as a kind of joke mystery in the series.

Katarina probably wasnt named Katarina in the origin world/dinner scene, her mother never met Hannah who she named her daughter Katarina after, they never say her name in the dinner scene

DARK is a masterpiece , never believe anything else.

Tanhaus - God Jonas - Adam Martha - Eve Claudia - Snake

Bernt Doppler was Regina's father, not Tronte. That's why regina wasn't part of the loop, the same for Hannah peter and katharina.

Claudia was a scientist. Jonas and Martha didn't grow up with a normal education, they never finished school. That's why Claudia was able to analyze the loops write it down and give the information to her younger self to read in the next loop.

The photograph didn't include Tronte, it was Bernd Doppler who actually was Regina's father. Tronte (and the entire Nielsen family) was born of Jonas and Martha, so he won't exist.

This was fun. Do a drunk Dark explainer/family tree drawing!

Never have a song choice been as perfect as "What a wonderful world" in the episode. Chills every time

This is one of the best series finales I've ever witness.

What's great about this ending for me is that while this final season got rough at times, I think in hindsight, it was supposed to be rough. We were supposed to get frustrated with all the circular "end is the beginning" "stop the knot" "continue the knot" etc etc talk, up till the point where Jonas and Martha appear to Marek and we're still on our toes wondering if something's gonna happen that will keep it going on forever. That's what makes this ending so cathartic and emotional, just as an ending should be. Such a well earned ending for a spectacular show.

This is one of those rare shows where you get closure at the end, and it does it so well. Also, we will never know what caused the injuries to our favorite side detective.

Can we give it up for Peter and Bernadette? They're the only couple that finds their way to each other in every world AND have a happy ending.

This Martha never knows that she's pregnant...I always wondered if she would have decided to not help Jonas of she would have known...

Dark to us viewers: we are a perfect match, never believe anything else 😭 Love this show! 10/10, thanks for the reaction 😍

_How did middle Jonas become Adam?_ He was in a suicide mission for a huge part of his life, everything he did failed, he was betrayed by many people he loved, and even his face became disfigured. I think he ended up possessed by resentment and became convinced he had to just destroy everything.

Helge told us about Tannhaus since episode 1 : Tick Tock!

Regina's father wasn't Tronte. That was Helge's dad(The one who made the nuclear plant) who may or may not have been his biological father.

This trio needs to react to 1899 the new show made by the Dark writers/producers! The actor who plays middle Jonas will be in it too and it will be in English/multiple languages. It comes out in 2022!! And it’s been a blast, thank you guys so much for reacting to DARK ♥️

Guys, the explanation on how Claudia knew about the third world and found the way out of the loop was by using the 1-second time still to tweak each timeline. It all started when she planted the idea into younger Claudia (if we succeed, Regina will live). This is shown during the flashbacks in 3x07 when they meet in the office at the nuclear plant, in the original episode in season 2, younger Claudia was holding Gretchen, which jumped over to older Claudia, and older Claudia was standing up; in this flashback we see that it is completely different, meaning that it was changed; thus this lead to our current version of Claudia to make the right adjustments which end up with her meeting with Jonas at the end for the first time. Basically, in Dark universe, time is not just a linear infinite loop, but it`s rather a multitude of loops, similar to each other, like a stretched slinky. This theory also explains Tannhouse`s book, which is a bootstrap paradox; there was actually a timeline where he originally wrote it, then it was given back to his younger self, and stopped writing it, just plagiarize it. There is a great video explaining all this called Claudia`s timeline explained/what is the loophole, you can check it out and thank me later.

Rewatching is a must. So many details, connections, references and foreshadowing that are usually missed on the first viewing.

Tannhause's time machine worked. He got his family back. Just not in the way he intended.

Yo... I just realized... Tanhause succeeded in saving them. All that BS technically led Martha and Jonas to save his family, and he'll never even know it. My brain hurts

This was my #1 Dark reaction crew so far and believe me, I watched them all ;) ... great job!

We need these three for more series. This was so special

This show is like the Schrodinger's cat experiment. We witnessed for 3 season a duality (two worlds both existing). What we didn't know was about the cat (Marek and Sonja). Once we saw Jonas and Martha save them (the cat is alive), the other reality vanished along with Martha and Jonas who were born of the "no cat alive" world.

The last song over the credits is a perfect fit with Nenas "Irgendwie, Irgendwo, irgendwann" (Somehow, somewhere, sometime) it describes the relationship of Martha and Jonas so nicely. "moths fly to the light like you and I"

Everything started because of a fathers love for his son and ended because of a mothers love for her daughter(Claudia, Regina)

Egon in Martha's world went to Hannah because even though the baby she was losing was Ulrich's, Hannah still needed to travel back in time to young Egon in order to have Silja.

Claudia is the ultimate MVP! And the build-up is so subtle, but you always see that she is clever and wants to figure stuff out. Love Dark, it is almost perfect even in its complexity with almost none plot hols. Incredible show!

The biggest plot twist (and also the disturbing one) for me is that Regina's father is actually Bernd Doppler (Helge's father). Can you imagine that? The age gap between Claudia and him? Let that sink in.

Best show ever ... Perfectly written

Is amazing how, in the end, the show where they recurrently show us the sons and daughters ending their parents lives, is basically about the extents the parents would go for their children. Tannhaus created both worlds in order to save his son, Martha preserved both worlds so her son could be born, and Claudia ended them so Regina could live.

DARK Reaction Checklist 1. Did two characters have sex? NO - But we did get some filthy hand-holding 2. Did a character wake up from a nightmare? YES - Everyone 3. Did a reactor reference LOST? 0:30 - Comparing the duration of DARK to LOST 20:35 - "You literally said it's going to be like LOST." "The eyes..." 4. Did a reactor have their mind blown (OMG, WTF, etc.)? 5:00 - "Nothing is complete without a third dimension" 6:05 - "WE'RE GOING TO THE ORIGIN WORLD!!!" 11:00 - Helge beatdown, Part Deux 14:30 - Jonas snatches Martha. 17:25 - "Yeah, everyone's always expecting someone *yawn*" 20:10 - Adam and Eva, reunited. 24:27 - The moment when everyone thinks they caused it in the first place 27:50 - "You and I are a perfect match. Never forget." 5. Did a reactor call a plot twist in this episode beforehand? YES - Suraj speculated that there might be a third world. YES - Rana speculated that stopping time travel would also stop the time loop in general. YES - Technically, Rana basically called the last shot for Jonas and Martha at 15:00 26:20 - Suraj guesses that Marek and Sonja represent Jonas and Martha. Unscramble their names, perhaps..? 6. Did a reactor correctly call a plot twist for a future episode? NOPE! Now the episode-loop begins. 7. Q&A Aftershow Clarifications 32:00 - Suraj: "How the family tree started" It started fully formed. The boostrap paradox requires that causality is necessarily pre-completed. The end result causes the beginning state, and therefore you can't have an origin for the product. There wasn't an original family tree that slowly got corrupted with incest. It always happened that way because the knot just so happened to require all of these things in order to remain intact. In the origin world, there were only a few players like Claudia, Regina, Hannah, etc. They were instantly consumed by the knot because they would inevitably interact with bootstrapped characters. There are certain ironies within it, too. Woller remarks back in Season 2 that Hannah had her choice of men, but she ended up with a weird artist and cheating with the town bicycle, but that he always found her beautiful. In the origin world, they would have ended up as the true match because he always appreciated her, unlike her loop matches. 33:40 - Rana: "Do you think there are scientists out there that will eventually crack time travel?" The best we can say is 'I don't know' to that. There are certainly lots of theories of time that involve moving at immense speeds, or wormholes that cross immense distances. Neither are close to being a phenomenon ready to be harnessed by our current technologies, though. You're also stuck with the paradox that if time travel is possible, wouldn't we already know about it? Wouldn't someone from the future have eventually gone back to the past and messed with enough things to make it undeniable? Wouldn't a future human have stood on a stage and said "I'm from the future. Here are things that will happen all across the world today" if they could? The lack of evidence doesn't disprove it, but it does increase the unlikelihood. 35:15 - Suraj: "Still don't understand why EvaEgon went to EvaHannah during the apocalypse." Because EvaHannah has to perpetuate the incestuous family line for Eva's world to make sense. Silja has to be born in Eva's world as well. It's also why Bartosz was saved from the apocalypse by his older self. He eventually needs to end up with Silja and bring about Hanno/Noah and Agnes. Etc. etc. EvaHannah can't be allowed to die, so EvaEgon is entrusted with taking her back to the 1950s. 36:30 - Suraj: "I think when we dream, we are living out our alternate reality lives." Uhhhh... I dream about really abstract stuff all the time. Giant pool tables. Symbolic stuff. I think it's probably more likely that dreams are the mind's way of tackling psychological and emotional problems, or putting ourselves in what-if scenarios as a way to explore them in case we stumble across them in the future. That being said, I almost never remember my dreams, so maybe this is just my only reality. Sadface. 39:35 - Suraj: "(paraphrase) I still don't understand how Claudia figured it out." She realized that there are people outside the knot. Everyone else in the world that isn't in Winden as well as herself and Regina (and a few others) were not reliant on the time loop for family origins. This means that there has to be history outside the time loop, and that it cannot be a natural occurance, otherwise it would be intrinsic in all history. Furthermore, by taking EvaClaudia's place, she was able to realize that Eva's plan was to use the apocalypse to branch history, which allowed Claudia to realize that she could ALSO branch history. By sustaining the cycle up until the moment of the apocalypse, Claudia ALSO used this moment to send herself off in another direction, and this new branch for Claudia is the one that meets up with Adam to tell him that it can be done. Originally, she was tasked by Eva with delivering the plans to the time machine suitcase to Tannhaus shortly before Noah kills her to find his pages. While that does still happen, she also sends herself to 2053 to speak with Adam about the third world. Also, the reason she knew about the switchpoint at the apocalypse is because it was discussed on the radio shortly after the apocalypse. During that episode, y'all were talking over it, but the radio announcer did briefly mention that time appears to have stopped for a nanosecond, breaking causality, and Claudia was present in that scene. Plus, Claudia is always shown as being incredibly smart and realizing the potential of the dark matter, so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise that she might realize that time travel only works as long as the origin of time travel exists. 42:00 - Rana: "Who did you feel the worst for?" This really is so hard to answer. I think I feel the worst for Jonas. He's led down so many paths just to get betrayed or used by someone else. Ultimately, he's forced to kill the person he loves the most in an attempt to break the desire that controls his actions, but that just leads him to become so nihilistic as to attempt to end the entire world. Even in the world where he isn't influencing himself from the future, he just gets taken advantage of by Eva instead. There's no happy world for Jonas. Lastly, something not really touched on during the commentary is the relevance of Ariadne. Adam realizes that the journey to truth is often a maze, but it's a labyrinth that leads to the center rather than branching outward. The red thread given to men heading into the labyrinth by Ariadne is represented both by the actual red thread in the caves, but also the threaded coins that connect the bodies of the children strewn throughout time. However, the most important connection is that Martha's monologue during the play telegraphed the ending of the series all the way back in Season 1, Episode 6. In the monologue, she says that there is a knot, red as blood (incest), that cannot be undone or unwoven, but that it can be destroyed by cutting through it completely. However, there is an unbreakable bond (we're perfect for each other) that links all things within the knot together still. That even though the knot is destroyed, everything remains. In the finale, Martha asks Jonas "What of us will remain?" Ariadne answers this in that everything remains, even if it's destroyed. Even in the origin world where Jonas never existed, Hannah is compelled to choose Jonas as the name for her child. There's a sort of invisible bond that will affect the people of Winden, and that although the knot is gone, its phantom memory still lives on, somehow.

Tannhaus Maschine worked perfectly. He saved his family.

Had Jonas and Martha chosen to stay in the Origin World, and not prevented the Tannhaus deaths, as you joked, they would have died in 1986 when Origin H.G. Tannhaus split and destroyed his world. So it would have ended badly

The only question I have, at the end, is, "What happened to Agnes after she did Adam's bidding?" I like to think that she met up with Doris after she left Egon, and they lived together away from Winden.

I'm gonna miss these Dark reactions. Maybe I'll repeat the cycle and re-watch it in 33 years.

The split second that I thought that Jonas and Martha suddenly appearing was about to cause them to die in an accident is probably the most panicked I've ever been.

The ending in the origin basically proves that everything that happened in the two other worlds weren't forgotten. Hence the Jonas's rain coat. They were scared of being a dream but they were still remembered even though it is classified as "deja-vu"

This show kind of broke me in a way no other show has done. I binged the whole thing and then when I finished it, I felt empty. It felt like I lost something so dear to me. Probably the best show I’ve ever watched.

Guys, guys, the families are, starting with Hannah: Hannah - Egon Silja - Bartoz Agnes - "The Origin a.k.a Cain" & Noah - Elizabeth Tronte - Jana & Charlotte - Peter Ulrich - Katarina & Francisca - Magnus(this pair made the correct decision and didn't had incestous children) Mikkel - Hannah Jonas - Marta "The Origin a.k.a Cain" - Agnes This is the connection between the families! Without one of them the rest can't exist except, the outer links, that are: . Egon & Doris . Jana, Ines, Claudia, Helge & Helena . Hannah, Katarina, Regina, Alexander . Bartoz(yep, while the final implies that Regina didn't met Alexander and didn't met Bartoz, the fact is that in our hearts they met in the origin and Alexander was busy and just couldn't go to the party) And we have a Charlotte by name, but that isn't the other worlds Charlotte. We will have Jonas by name, but that isn't the other worlds Jonas. And most possibly(though that it implied that Katarina gets her whish of not getting children) we will have Martha by name, but that isn't the other worlds Martha(The same to Magnus and Mikkel). So, why did Egon in Light world went to Hannah? Because Hannah lost her baby with Ulrich. YES, the blood was a miscarriage, and she was losing the baby. And he was taking her to the past to later get a kid with young Egon and make Silja, so Agnes can exist, and so Tronte and so Ulrich, and so Martha herself(and yes Martha and Jonas aren't only related by Mikkel side but by Hannah too. And yes, Mikkel hooked up with his great great grandmother), and so on.

I min silence for those who haven't seen this masterpiece yet 🙂

You three should react to *"1899"* . It's another show by Baron bo Odar, the creator of Dark. It's coming out in 2022 on Netflix.

"I feel like those two represent Martha and Jonas" Well, some fans actually pointed out before how Sonja is an annagram for Jonas. Also: MARek TannHAus. Edit: I also feel like their tempers are pretty similar. Martha was prone to angry emotional outbursts, especially towards her parent, like Marek. Whilst Jonas obviously also had occasional outbursts throughout that whole madness, his demeanor was more calm and quiet overall, like Sonja's.

On rewatch now that you know its even more fun haha because you can piece up things much better the second time and dont have the feeling of being lost like the first time you watch it.

Suraj your theory about Tannhaus's son Marek and the wife Sonja being symbolisms of Jonas and Martha is an actual theory. We think they are kind of like flipped reincarnations of each other. For example the wife name was Sonja and if you flips the letters around a bit you get Jonas. Its not quite the same for Marek and Martha but they both have Mar. Also things you never really touched on Regina's dad was Helge' s father. You see that in the picture at the end showing the old man with Claudia and Regina....so yeah that's nasty lol And the Origin baby was indeed Tronte's father so Jonas and Martha are their own supreme great grand parents lol

The look on the others' faces when Hannah talked about her dream gave me the impression they all had a similar experience.

I guess you guys have missed one important point. The unknown - Jonas & Martha's son, was actually Agnes' husband and Tronte's father.

The leftovers would be the perfect show for you three

Its crazy that the Song, playing in the credits, is just like made for this Show. It fits so well

The awesome thing about Dark is that despite it being short (3 seasons), it is incredibly rewatchable. So my immediate suggestion for everyone is to rewatch it. In this way, the show puts us in the shoes of the characters who "know" what's going to happen. No other show has this ability!

Been following the reactions for many shows with you and i must say this one was by far the best, Dark rules and so does you! xoxo

Claudia is smart. I mean she became the head of the nuclear plant, back in a time when women were usually not more than secretaries or housewives. She is just freaking awesome and pretty much the only one who could solve all that shit on her own. Jonas and Martha both didn't even finish school, so no wonder that they were never able to solve it :D

Rana makes so many random guesses so it's not a surprise if she gets couple of them right. Those predictions are also half baked. Niki is relieved that the show is done. 😂 Suraj is going to rush to watch all the explanation videos to be more clear on the time travel.

The next show from the Dark Makers is soon out on Netflix: 1899... the Teaser is already out.

Yeah most likely the original Baby just drowned on the bottom of the river and they just couldn't find her.

Suraj at the end going: "OOOHH HEEELLLL NO" cracked me up for literally 5 minutes straight. What a show! What and end!!!

This is the only episode in the entire series that is not part of the knot/loop. No matter what any previous episode may have made viewers think was gonna change, every episode before this one was set in stone. Also, Bernd Doppler was the father of Regina which allowed her to exist in the Origin World because she wasn't a product of time travel, but she also never met Aleksander because their meeting was a product of Ulrich who does not exist in the Origin World, thus no Bartosz, and because Katharina never met Ulrich, no Mikkel, Martha or Magnus, and because Charlotte and Elisabeth were both products of time travel, no Franziska. Every teenager we met in episode 1 was never born in the Origin World. Claudia made the most accurate Family Tree because she was the ONLY person who know that Bernd Doppler was Regina's father. She deduced from the Tree that the Tiedemanns and the Dopplers were outside of the sections of the Tree that were specifically produced by time travel, thus she knew there had to be a world where those time travel sections did not happen. That's how she determined there was a third world.

You guys should watch The Leftovers next!!!

Summary of Dark: Crazy scientist wrecks the world to save his son!

Katerina in this world, because of her mum and what she says to Ulrich that "she did not want children", it seems like did not have any.

Also i love how in the end the show was about grief and what it makes you do.

Vampire Diaries actually a banger show, and Suraj can make Boone references for 8 seasons :D

I really hope you all reunite for 1899.

Pls do a drunk explained. This was an amazing series from beginning to end easily one of the best you've done.

Fun fact: Everyone seated at the table at the very end were all the characters not born from time travel.

OMG PLEASE DO BUFFY!!! I really don't think you will regret it. It's such a ride and I think it has elements that all three of you will enjoy! One of my favourite shows of all time!!

I was again crying becasue of Rana and I remembered the first time I saw the finale omg you guys

„The bridge is closed“. So deep meaning…

We will meet again. When the new show '1899' comes out. It looks like the end but it's just the beginning!

I love the moment where Marek and Sonja come back to Tannhaus, and he says "Ich habe die Betten noch gar nicht abgezogen." (I haven't stripped the beds yet) with kind of a cracking voice as if he wants to tear up right now. Such great acting. He is just so happy to have them back.

The GOAT of tv shows endings

Words cannot describe how beautifully well written this whole series was. 🖤💙🖤

I like how the end of the show was also the beginning of the show in a way.

I'm so glad I got to re-experience this show with you guys . The ending of this show personifies the word " melancholy ". Thanks for the great experience.

Thanks to y'all in the comments for recommending this when I was watching the Hill House reactions. This will be one of my favourite shows ever.

Future Claudia is giving all the info so far to the younger Claudia. This way in every loop the Claudia is getting incremental info. Thus at last she solved the mystery after all these loops

I love this show. Loved watching the three of you doing reactions. It's been so much fun. Thanks for an awesome ride! 👍

I’m so glad you guys loved the series and the ending. I’ve always looked forward to your reactions to this every week and it’s bittersweet that it’s over. I think you three should watch the movie Coherence, on Amazon Prime. It’s a wonderful, mind fuck of a movie. I don’t want to say how but it’s similar to Dark. Just a thought.

the last scene they filmed was jhonas and martha in the road and afther that they had a mexican party with mariachis yeaiii

By the way, the creators of Dark are working on a new multi-lingual historical mystery/horror show called 1899 that seems pretty promising. Seems like something Suraj would definitely like.

This made me tear up I love this series so much. Thank you so much for reacting to Dark, it's been a hell of a ride. Love you guys ❤️

During the finale, when Jonas and Martha started to disappear I just smiled. Knowing that all the pain and cycles were finally over. One of the best shows out there

In the origin world, Bernd Doppler is Regina's father.

I love seeing Dark with u guys U should watch these series too :) KINGDOM (Korea) Strangers from Hell (Korea) The Victims Game (Taiwan) Ju-On Origins (Japan) Equinox Into The Lake Girl from Nowhere

this was an amazing ride! it was awesome to rewatch this masterpiece with you guys. AND YES, PLEASE DO BUFFY!

i really enjoyed the journey rewatching this aqmazing show with yall.