Red Eyes Dark Dragoon is more of a dm card than it is red eyes. The name says red eyes, but guess which material is optional... Not dm.

Really fun discussion! Although nothing compares to dragoon (it’s so far and away the best option), I do feel like we as a community (I’m at fault for this all the time) tunnel vision into dragoon. I do feel like there is a huge amount of potential in a card like master of chaos for example that could be explored a bit more. Great video!

The dark magicians should have had the effect when this card is summoned draw cards for each dark magician or dmg used to summon it

100% agreeing with this list ! Ideas for the next tier list : Best artworks for the extra deck DM monsters.

i never really played YGO much. Juat collected the cards when i was a kid and watched the show But man i just LOVE the artstyle of these fusion and ritual cards. So badass

Master of chaos is underrated. I have won so many duels by banishing my opps entire field. I know he doesn’t have protection but he’s a great card. Summoning chaos angel back, summoning the dark magicians back is OP

It's 2024 and we still don't have a way to make dragoon knight+ esoul with 1 card combo and we still don't even have a fusion card 🙆 how crazy is that a fusion deck with 9 fusion monsters with no fusion card really konami ?

Dark Paladin will always be the most badass and coolest looking card to me. I know that Dragoon is sort of an upgraded version of it, but I would like it to receive a proper retrain with a Buster Blader monster that synergizes well with the DM theme. - Make it untargetable - Makes all your opponent's monsters dragons on the field and in the GY - Gains 1000 Atk for every dragon in the GY and on the field - Your opponent can't activate spell cards or their effects

With Dark Paladin I OTK once my oponnent who was playing a Mill Dragon deck with The grass looks greener card. Just for that Dark paladin will forever be S to me.

The DMs will always be a disappointment for me, if only for the fact that it has 2800 instead of 3000 ATK. Would have been a great reference to the final duel in the Manga. As well as not be treated as DM and DMG while on the field or GY, would have preferred that over summoning them back.

I def agree with all of the fusion placements for the list and every point you make about each is spot on. There are points and changes I can go waaay out there when it comes to DM but that would be super long so im going to try to keep it short. I wish Rods' search effect would trigger when its also special summoned it to the field. Then when its in the GY, go back to the field instead of going back to the hand. There are so many other searchers that does this now, its time DM got a slighty better searcher. A Link 1 Apprentice of Chaos Spellcaster that by destroying a light and dark monster from the deck to search any ritual spell or monster with "Chaos" in its name is definitely needed and maybe a Link 2/3 Dragon Spirit of Timaeus that searches out any DM spell/ trap or any card that has "Timaeus" in its name. As it could set up your dragon fusion on the spot and solve that horrible ruling. Also if a DM, DMG or a Fusion Monster that lists either as material is special summoned to its link points, up to twice per turn,you can either: (Quick Effect) target one card on your opponents field, they are negated, or draw one card.

What's the maths? Vegeta be like "it's over 9000"

It’s a small nitpick but what can help DM in the future if we get more fusion support is fusion monsters that require a generic monster (DARK, Spellcaster etc.) rather than a hard specific named monster like some earlier fusions.

If there is 1 single card i wish Konami would add to this archetype its this : Dark Magic Fusion Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster that mentions "Dark Magician" as material from your Extra Deck, using 2 monsters from your hand, Deck, or field as Fusion Material. You cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you activate this card. You can only activate 1 "Dark Magic Fusion" per turn. If it sounds familiar it should because i took the text of branded fusion and just replaced fallen of Albaz with DM. This is a card that has essentially been printed before. There’s no excuse. It isnt even as powerful as branded because branded has a bunch of really good toolbox targets to go into with this. We have 1 awesome target and a whole bunch of poop.

The Dark Magicians is my favorite DM fusion monster. I just wish it was less costly to summon because the card in theory should be a great combo piece that helps us get to other key cards. It just has this weird duality when you really think about it. 1) it requires so many resources that it wants to be its own boss monster but falls short of that goal since it doesn’t fill the role that boss monsters usually fill. 2) it wants to be a combo piece but requires committing most of your hands important cards to make it, thus defeating what could’ve been the cards actual purpose. It teeters in between these two concepts and It seems like Konami doesn’t know what they want to do with it.

If they gave us a monster that Counts as Buster Blader and DM that would be crazy. Especially since Tenpai Dragons are about to take over and Buster Blader/Dark Palidan is the perfect foil to it

I run The Dark Hex Sealed Fusion in my DM deck and it turns everything into a contact fusion. Timaeus the United Dragon also does wonders to make the DM fusions worth it

Cartesia goes hand in hand with Dark Magician

If Dragoon was in Master Duel I’d have 2 plus I’d have Dark Calvary

We need a fusion spell like branded but said “after using this card you show your oppo 12 cards (GY, Deck, banish, field that mentions DM o RED in the text, if you cant banish face down your cards”. Two other monster light attribuite and a new chaos monster. Fusion monster that mention timaeus, errata timaeus spell and link monster

Nice. I would agree.

Yes you would have a Buster Blader in your DM deck.

Always felt Girl Dragon Knight was kinda underrated, just had no good Fusion spell to summon it

Amulet dragon, dark paladin I personally love because I just hate sky strikers. Dark cavralry is fun too, bit tricky but nice in witchcraft because I think it's common to have a full hand of spells.

“The Dark Magicians” should let you treat its name like DM or DMG depending on how you summoned it. Would make it really cool for cards like Dark Burning Magic/Dark Magic Attack, that sorta thing.

Putting the dark magicians as B tier is criminal

Spot on list! The Dark Magicians annoys me; everything I've summoned it I go "that's all you do?" The fact it doesn't identify is just straight up disrespectful lol. Ever since the Anaconda ban; DM has been struggling. Anaconda setting up Dragoon and Soul Servant plays; the deck felt legit DM BEST DECK!

Would having both Dark Paladin and Dark Dragoon in play at the same time be op? I just feel like they would make a amazing team, I also still need to get my hands on Dark Dragoon 😅

It would be nice if the dark magicians doesn’t say you have to summon dm AND dmg in order for the effect to work. So you have to play what is literally the worst card in the deck to have that effect. Sorry but dmg is just bad. Only reasons to play the card in the deck are soul servant and this card. Personally I don’t think either are worth it.

Are we goin get a decklist for LEDE format since now you can play test irl? I think you can run a legit DM deck using SOL engine w/o having to replace DM entirely

I agree with you on every choice you made I can't wait for the time dragoon gets out from the basement I also like master of chaos only for the fact it can also reborn any monster from your grave Let's say for example you have something like mirrorjade or chaos angel in your grave. You get your full value from summoning him it's not just a lethal Play also board breaker going second. I can see that coming in some situations I would put him in A tier even higher than dragon knight but that's just me I use him so much more than the dragon knight

List is good! I feel like DM the Magical Dragon Knight is more D tier though, purely because it not only requires a vanilla Extra Deck monster for its recursion effect, but it also needs a Level 7 or higher Dragon/Warrior monster as one of the Fusion Materials. No easy way to turbo this out with Link monsters, which just makes it even more annoying to summon imo. It’d be such a fun card to use if it didn’t have such baggage

Dark Paladin: the hex sealed fusion, fusion parasite etc

I’m a Paladin Fan since 04, it’s a shame it’s placed there, but it’s true… Dragoon is top tier though

Dragoon Supremacy❗️❗️❗️🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🗣

I see loza vid, i hit like

I don’t agree on dark Palidan, his effect is pretty good. I would place him C tear

Watching this video makes me cry at how bad DM is.

Quintet magician is not a dark magician fusion card? I thought it was.

Dragoon be like "not today Satan".

The main thing i use master of chaos for is follow up after dragoon dies. Turn 1 make dragoon Turn 2 opponent spends all their effort killing dragoon. Turn 3 make dragoon again. Option one is to make another, but option 2 is to reborn the dead one, and go for game.

Music remix name?

Loza: "Why do I suck at YGO?" Also Loza:

Not agree. S - Dragoon A - The Dragon Knight C - The Dark Magicians No contest. D - Dark Paladin, Master of Chaos, Cavalry The rest is not even measured.

Dark Paladin is A tier not D tier

S Tier: DM the Dragon Knight A Tier: The Magicians', Knight of DM, Dark Cavalry, & Master of Chaos B Tier: DMGtDK, Dark Paladin, & Amulet Dragon

Just put the whole DM deck in the F list and move on bro