Dark Urge rejects Father, redeems himself and becomes a Hero - Baldur's Gate 3

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Azungi

Azungi

10 ай бұрын

The ending of mine playthrough as good Dark Urge

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@carter5323
@carter5323 8 ай бұрын
My first ever playthrough of the game I decided to go out on a limb and picked the Dark Urge origin, only having a small bit of secondhand knowledge of BG1 & 2 (coincidentally the same level of knowledge the Dark Urge also starts with). I spent the whole of act 1, 2, and the better part of 3 terrified that at any moment I would lose and kill my companions, that I had made a mistake choosing the Dark Urge and it would in turn act against me and ruin my experience, possibly even causing me to never want to play the game ever again, but even then I still tried to resist the urge. When Sceleritas threatened me with the proposal that if I didnt kill Isobel I would kill Laezel (my partner in the playthru), I started to think like the Urge, genuinely considering killing her just to spare Laezel. I decided to go against my better judgement and let Isobel live and in return I spent the night tied up, even more scared that I couldn't control the urge and it would get my party killed. When I stumbled in the sewers Orin revealed to me that she kidnapped Halsin and would kill him unless I killed Gortash, I dropped everything I was doing and immediately began scouring the sewers for where she could be hiding. I didn't want to have to be forced to kill against my will again. I had only found the entrance to the Undercity because I noticed a small blood circle ,which triggered some memory in a small recess of my mind that this was the symbol of Bhaal. I didn't even know Sarevok was alive yet, I skipped that quest, I was just going off my own knowledge. After I entered and fought my way to Orin, she along with the narrator revealed everything to me, coupled with the knowledge I had learned from reading various books along the whole game, everything had clicked into place. I knew I would have to fight Orin. I knew she had the Slayer form. But most importantly I knew that after I killed her, I, the only remaining Bhaalspawn, would be turned into that very same monster. It was tough, but despite me having "not trained well enough", I used the tactics, the tools, and the experiences I learned throughout the game to win the duel. When I saw Sceleritas' gored body float towards me however I knew that it was to all end here. Bhaal himself, not an avatar like Myrkul previously, would either kill me where I stood for having resisted him and played the evil character path wrong, or I would have to become his Chosen, the very thing I spent so long trying to avoid. Either way, all the progress I had made, the nearly three weeks I spent on my playthrough, would be erased. In the end I still stood firm and resisted, and in the end exactly what I had thought pass did, and I was killed right there. When the camera shifted to a cinematic view, and the narrator monologued I thought that was it. The Bad Ending to the Bad Character Origin. I was honestly content with the game ending there for me. Sure I was a little dismayed I would not get to defeat the Absolute, and I may not have fully understood when I started what I was getting into, but I was happy knowing despite the circumstances I did the best I could. That I had made what many consider the unideal first time playthrough matter to me. Of course though that wasn't how it ended. Where I thought I would be punished for resisting the very urges of the game itself, I was instead rewarded by Withers, the Avatar of Jergal, and the Avatar of the Game itself. Withers didn't just grant my character with life itself, but with the confirmation that despite everything, all of the circumstances, the confusion, the fear, I had truly done my best to make the worst better. That experience. That first playthrough. All of my odd choices I had made throughout the game, in the game or out of it that lead me to that one moment, had worked itself into creating an experience so utterly unique to me specifically that I don't think it will ever be truly replicated again. The Dark Urge is without a doubt the single best experience I ever had in a game. I started my journey afraid that starting with the Dark Urge would sour any attempt to replay it, in a way it kind of has, I don't think I can ever replay the game as any other character now.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 8 ай бұрын
I've read the whole thing. The Durge origin alone makes this game for me a GOTY not to mention that the game itself is amazing. Srsly I don't think I have ever experienced character personal story this good, there are so many moral dilemas in this origin that you won't experience in normal playtrough, not to mention that main plot is heavily tied to his background. It's a shame that a lot of people won't experience Durge story because they will play as custom becasue they think that Dark Urge is a evil playthrough origin. Maybe they add Durge as companion in the future or maybe when they realese defenitive edition. That would be amazing. EDIT - If only there was a option to meet Imoen and Adrian as Dark Urge with basically going full circle with the series.
@leanasa2915
@leanasa2915 8 ай бұрын
so true, durge playthrough sour my replay attempt, not because i have bad memory of it, but because it was so great that any replay from that point wouldn't compare to my first playthrough. I never played the first and second Baldur Gate, so my blindness to Baldur Gate lore made my first experience even more magical. How i wish ican remove my memory of playing this game, so i can play it like my first time again.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 8 ай бұрын
@@leanasa2915 If you don't mind bad graphics and dated gameplay then you have to try out BG1 and 2. BG1 is kinda average with intresting but dated story but BG2 story and companions are amazing for a game from 2000. It is kind of shame that we have only 3 characters from previous games in BG3.
@leanasa2915
@leanasa2915 8 ай бұрын
@@Azumgi yrah maybe i'll pick it up, people say bg2 is great, so i might be playing the 2nd one
@teru88
@teru88 8 ай бұрын
as a person who played the old games as a child and know what a good story can do to a person: i am so happy you had this experience and I pray you can find another soon.
@Blindluck92
@Blindluck92 8 ай бұрын
Withers is the best. Ask him to explain? "No." Die for your redemption arc? "Get up. You have work to do."
@greatorder
@greatorder 7 ай бұрын
"Why didn't you let me die?!" "Because you're too fucking cool to die."
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht 7 ай бұрын
Spoilers, he is the old god of death, but allowed some adventures to take his domains and become gods so he could semi retire.
@Homieck
@Homieck 6 ай бұрын
@@AL-lh2ht Weren't those adventurers in fact Bhaal and others that took over?
@metru2185
@metru2185 6 ай бұрын
Withers: takes of sunglasses “Wake the fuck up samurai, we got a city to burn”
@Become-Eggplant
@Become-Eggplant 6 ай бұрын
Withers: Wake the F*** up Dark Urge, we've got a world to burn.
@MissChambersxo
@MissChambersxo 3 ай бұрын
Bhaal having a temper tantrum because another one of his kids has turned against him. Jergal laughing at Bhaal, reminding him that he was the original death god, and taking the Dark Urge as his chosen instead in the heart of his own temple. Nice
@brandanpalmer9712
@brandanpalmer9712 3 ай бұрын
Even better, it’s essentially a grandfather slapping around his idiotic, immature adult son, and taking his grandson away from such undeserved cruelty and taking you under his guidance instead.
@epicduckeh6
@epicduckeh6 7 ай бұрын
Withers: "Wake the fuck up, samurai..."
@endikaaspeurrutia1013
@endikaaspeurrutia1013 4 ай бұрын
We have an elder brain to burn
@internetcampbell2267
@internetcampbell2267 Ай бұрын
Damn... love that comment.
@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski
@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski 9 ай бұрын
“What is better, To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”
@shadowscall7758
@shadowscall7758 9 ай бұрын
Born good. Because then your evil didn't affect others in the first place.
@nickmalachai2227
@nickmalachai2227 9 ай бұрын
​@@shadowscall7758and what victory is that absence of effort? To simply ride the inertia of the soul? You don't choose how you are born, but to defy your nature and become better is the victory harder-won, and it is always the more worthy pursuit.
@shadowscall7758
@shadowscall7758 9 ай бұрын
@nickmalachai2227 you missed my point. If you were born good, you didn't commit evil in the first place and those people affected by it wouldn't have been. Do you think it matters to the family whose parents you slaughtered if you change later? The parents are still dead.
@nickmalachai2227
@nickmalachai2227 9 ай бұрын
@@shadowscall7758 you don't have control over that, though, and that's the point. I'm all for the absence of harm, but this isn't a "choose which origin", this is "who of these two is greater" and I think it's greater to overcome the inertia of life and improve than to continue assured that you awere already acceptable enough in nature.
@n.a.nameless5435
@n.a.nameless5435 9 ай бұрын
Paarthurnax!
@Nappanaia
@Nappanaia 9 ай бұрын
Karlach telling you she's proud of you makes it worth it in all instances.
@glowhoo9226
@glowhoo9226 6 ай бұрын
I can’t fr over her looking like the resident evil 4 merchant
@firebreathingguy561
@firebreathingguy561 5 ай бұрын
AHSHHS she does look like him ​@@glowhoo9226
@reptardudebro9562
@reptardudebro9562 5 ай бұрын
@@glowhoo9226Karlach: What’re ya buyin’?!” Me: A redemption arc. Karlach: What’re ya sellin’?! Me: My literal life fam.
@roarytheromanarcanine
@roarytheromanarcanine 4 ай бұрын
Withers gives the most genuine sweet grandfatherly smile when he tells you “the sole way to atone is to do better, in a new dawn. That dawn has come.” And I just love it. Do not disappoint grandpa Withers if you redeem the dark urge.
@untrustingstatue
@untrustingstatue 7 ай бұрын
> Durge dies. Withers "Nah. I'd revive."
@Tyrantlizard127
@Tyrantlizard127 6 ай бұрын
Withers is Jergal. I'm 99% sure of it.
@RemingtonDean
@RemingtonDean 3 ай бұрын
@@Tyrantlizard127 Literally the entire internet is sure of it.
@Tyrantlizard127
@Tyrantlizard127 3 ай бұрын
@@RemingtonDean He could also be the DM.
@pilotlist6276
@pilotlist6276 2 ай бұрын
@@Tyrantlizard127 his character model is literally named "Jergal Avatar" in the game files lmao
@gzapray7203
@gzapray7203 14 күн бұрын
This is not a simple revive. This is freedom.
@chara2038
@chara2038 9 ай бұрын
Jergal sure has a soft spot for adventurers that challange Gods... Or at least the evil he once wielded.
@eagleye2893
@eagleye2893 5 ай бұрын
Where the hell was he when Vlaakith Wishes you to death?!
@chara2038
@chara2038 5 ай бұрын
There's a difference between boldness and stupidity XD@@eagleye2893
@Fr0st1989
@Fr0st1989 5 ай бұрын
@@eagleye2893 he's the one who conjures up the "game over" screen with the option to load a previous save obviously
@eagleye2893
@eagleye2893 5 ай бұрын
@@Fr0st1989 Well that's little consolation considering Vlaakith gets away with Wishing you unless you follow the scripted story moment to the letter.
@chatarrra7457
@chatarrra7457 2 ай бұрын
@@eagleye2893well no. You can still refuse to go into the prism and you can directly disrespect her wishes by telling her you won’t do what she tells you to do, you just can’t insult her lol. And you can just not go into the prism when she sets it out for you. When you say ‘I’m not going into the prism’ she’s like ‘I will not be disobeyed!!!! But still maybe your autonomy will lead you to the right path if your words won’t’ or something
@Shikyonaito
@Shikyonaito 9 ай бұрын
As someone who who grew up playing the original games - when Jaheira finished off her speech with her catch phrase "... Nature's servant awaits." I was struck by a huge wave of nostalgia. Larian has created a fantastic story for a new generation but also has written a love letter to us older gamers who grew up with Baldur's Gate. Damn I love this game!
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
Same, Im now replaying BG1 and 2 and its great to experience this games again with new context. I kinda wished that there was a way to meet Gorion's Ward because I romanced Jaheira in BG2 so it would be nice to see them reunited. Or maybe few more cameos from older characters.
@thecursed01
@thecursed01 9 ай бұрын
@@Azumgi my condolences for having to play ad&d rules :) though 5e made some terrible things too compared to 3.5, especially magic that lasts more than one round
@mattmark94
@mattmark94 9 ай бұрын
too bad those idiots at WotC killed off the previous protagonist *offscreen*
@Shikyonaito
@Shikyonaito 9 ай бұрын
@@mattmark94 aye, I would've loved to go full circle with DUrge and run into the Bhaalspawn from BG1 & 2 and have a confrontation with them. THAT would make for an amazing climactic battle
@sterlingwirth7931
@sterlingwirth7931 8 ай бұрын
Imoen would have been nice to meet
@MonstersArcade
@MonstersArcade 9 ай бұрын
All of these cutscenes were so damn good. I feel that the Durge really is the main character of the game.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
He definitely feels more complete than a custom character because the Act 3 of the game really focuses around him and his backstory so playing as custom seems like you are missing out on a lot context of the game story.
@exantiuse497
@exantiuse497 9 ай бұрын
Imo Dark urge should have been the default main character. It's the only origin that feels like a continuation to the original games where the protagonist was Bhaal's spawn, and it gets so much extra content compared to custom or the other origin chracters I picked custom origin because that's the best option in almost all RPGs. I decided I would never play Dark Urge because I thought it was some meme origin where you were forced to be super evil, and spoiled myself on all the special stuff. Instantly regretted it because the story was actually really good and now I can't experience it fresh anymore
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
@@exantiuse497 Yea they really should gave better description for Durge. I played as custom and after few hours i made a new game because i fucked up Karlach romance and picked Durge because someone said he is really good and i promised myself that no matter how fucked up he will bee I wont restart the game and after Alfira death i got hooked into the story because i realised that Durge is a Bhallspawn at that point. With the diffrence that in BG1 and 2 its more of the story of good guy becoming evil where in BG3 Its evil becoming good.
@MsPokemonKO
@MsPokemonKO 9 ай бұрын
@@exantiuse497 Look, I understand what you mean, but I have seen how people reacted to Alfira's death. They would not take it if this was the only origin that allowed for custom classes. Trust me, it would have caused major issues.
@quantras2673
@quantras2673 8 ай бұрын
I believe Tav was always meant to be a Bhaalspawn but at some point in development they decided to let you play as just a normal adventurer as well. Honestly I hope Durge convinces Larian to do more origin characters like this. Having a character you can customize with a more tailored story like Durge is more interesting to me then playing the game but one of the pre made companions is the main character now.
@GattsBerserkArmor
@GattsBerserkArmor 7 ай бұрын
Dark Urge is the game's main character. A whole trilogy of baalspawn rebelling against their father.
@pennclick
@pennclick 9 ай бұрын
Bhaal Avatar’s voice is Doug Cockle, AKA Geralt of Rivia. Can’t unhear it!
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
Imagine Durge playing Gwent with Bhaal in order to save his soul
@figgot1571
@figgot1571 9 ай бұрын
Bhaal: "I have gift for you, child." Durge: "What is it, father?" Bhaal: "A round of Gwent." *Gwent theme plays*
@farrela3620
@farrela3620 7 ай бұрын
​@@figgot1571Durge : *nods*
@TheKrensada
@TheKrensada 4 ай бұрын
Well It's a good thing I couldn't get into the overrated trash heap that is the Witcher series.
@danielrobinson7872
@danielrobinson7872 8 ай бұрын
I enjoy that Larian gave Jergal some proper love. Although not talked about often in D&D, he will eventually have the largest role in the cosmic hierarchy at the end of everything.
@gasalpha879
@gasalpha879 4 ай бұрын
Jergal is inevitable
@thecheck968
@thecheck968 6 ай бұрын
I named my Dark Urge Dhawn, in dnd lore, it means plague. Perfect, a cute name with a dark double meaning just like my character. But I could have *never* imagined the payoff for her name. Wither's speech at 16:04 had me in tears. All at once, her name became the embodiment of the new life she fought for and the friends who gave her hope that it was even possible
@Just_som_Ottur
@Just_som_Ottur 6 ай бұрын
:,) Tell me, you rename her Dawn, didn’t you?
@thecheck968
@thecheck968 6 ай бұрын
​@@Just_som_Ottur Well technically she was originally named Dhaun before I morphed the two versions
@theshadowthie1
@theshadowthie1 5 ай бұрын
From what language ​@@thecheck968?
@thecheck968
@thecheck968 5 ай бұрын
@@theshadowthie1 drow, I’m pretty sure
@MR.LMR1996
@MR.LMR1996 5 ай бұрын
What I love about the Dark Urge path is how much their journey mirrors the journey that the rest of our companions have been on. We're not on a journey to just have our parasites removed. We're on a journey to free ourselves from both our past and oncoming tyrants. The Dark Urge's bloodlust is a tyrannical influence on our mind just as much as the horrors that Karlach, Astarion, Lae'zel, Shadowheart and Wyll endured from their past choices and the choices made for them. This is why I can't do an Evil Dark Urge run. As to resisit the Dark Urge, as well as helping the friends we've made on our journey resist and defy their personal demons and tyrants, is an act of rebellion one must follow to be finally free. It is better to be free then it is to be powerful. I'd say that's the theme I got from the overarching narrative of Baldur's Gate 3 in the journey our party members have been on.
@saamjaza1742
@saamjaza1742 3 ай бұрын
If your friends, your closest compatriots in this dreadful time, can rise up and overcome their own trauma, growing stronger for it, on what right have you to not do the same?
@randomfandomcreator2376
@randomfandomcreator2376 10 ай бұрын
4:37 Omg! The expressions are so good! The dragonborn race is surprising the most expressive in this game! I love it!
@SuperKratosgamer
@SuperKratosgamer 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the expressions are good, but the drgaonborn is the less expressive of them.
@TaliZVasTyria
@TaliZVasTyria 9 ай бұрын
It just makes me more disappointed that the dark urge doesnt exist as a companion. The voice actor and the relation you could have with tav could have been unique
@figgot1571
@figgot1571 9 ай бұрын
So that's what you look like when you do intimidation rolls.
@Andrew_Waples
@Andrew_Waples 7 ай бұрын
Everyones voice is so dark and moody. Meanwhile, Karlach:" I'm so damned proud of you!"
@Era-Core
@Era-Core 8 ай бұрын
Playing as The Dark Urge pretty much feels like the canonical way to play Baldur's Gate 3, since the previous Baldur's Gate games also featured the Dead Three as major plot devices, and The Dark Urge makes the story even more interesting as it tries to fight the urge within itself as a Spawn of Bhaal, given a chance for redemption through amnesia, all done by that disgusting and pathetic asshole of a mass murderer Orin.
@treesuschrist1782
@treesuschrist1782 4 ай бұрын
Between BG3 and Cyberpunk 2077, I seem to be developing a liking to protags who die only to get back up to take the big bad down. "Wake up hero, we have an absolute to burn"
@glowhoo9226
@glowhoo9226 6 ай бұрын
So I think it’s safe to say that the mc is unofficially Jergal’s chosen
@tooth2887
@tooth2887 7 ай бұрын
I JUST REALIZED YOU NAMED THE MC FUCKING DOVAHKIN. THAT IS SUCH A GOOD FUCKING NAME HOLY SHIT
@NoName-ym5zj
@NoName-ym5zj 7 ай бұрын
>You should've trained harder master! >Durge: One-shots Orin.
@New_Dawn73
@New_Dawn73 2 ай бұрын
Open hand, Monk go crazy orin did not know what was coming
@bluyu
@bluyu 4 ай бұрын
And thus, Yenna became the new Bhaal's Chosen, for she brought her own paring knife.
@Fr0st1989
@Fr0st1989 6 ай бұрын
"A hero has risen from the legacy of death" seems like a little call back to Act 1's "Such raw hatred for life, born from death" xD
@ywiz8135
@ywiz8135 4 ай бұрын
No, it was a recall of bg1 and bg2's main character, who was also a good aligned Bhaalspawn.
@SUPERMavic
@SUPERMavic 7 ай бұрын
"Dovahkiin cast Howl of the Dead on Self" * Proceeds to scream * "Orin failed a Saving Throw against Dovahkiin" nice.
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 7 ай бұрын
The part where the Dragonborn speaks is so cool!
@christopherjones5700
@christopherjones5700 9 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, as amazing as her voice actress is, and how cool her character design is (being the hottest Chosen notwithstanding...) The Dark Urge would have been a fascinating NPC to encounter similar to the other options, he would have been the ONLY dragonborn worth mentioning, and he would also be able to use any of the 8 custom character voice options to avoid conflicting with a default Tav's. Although Tav's voice is so rare to hear that even if it was literally the same guy I don't think anyone would really care.
@artorious5321
@artorious5321 9 ай бұрын
I never get tired of this scene, 10/10 would play it again
@D3NIAL_DEN14L
@D3NIAL_DEN14L 10 ай бұрын
Wow thats crazy, you could select the dark urge path and you could have a redemption arc??? IDK why but I wasn't expecting such depth, but since there already are so many things possible in this game I never imagined I guess I shouldn't be surprised haha. I am still probably going to go full dark urge because I was originally going to go fully evil. maybe Ill try redemption some time later.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 10 ай бұрын
TBH the game feels better if you resist the urges. The companions have a lot of new dialogue especially Jaheira and Minsc and the romance has some really emotional scenes. I loved Red Dead Redemption 2 and DU story was on par if not the better of Arthur's. Also the Act 3 is amazing if you play as DU because this is where you learn a lot about his past and man it was probably even better than the main plot of the game.
@Dodovacer
@Dodovacer 10 ай бұрын
@@Azumgi I imagine so - after all this seems to be much closer to BG 1 and 2. Since it was so long ago - and I was a child when I played BG1 and 2 I did not realize it then how dark some of the story is... and the graphic at the time also helped. But here it is all on display and a much more truthful BG experience. For that reason I also started my DU game this weekend.
@spaceerror_3571
@spaceerror_3571 10 ай бұрын
Wait, isn’t that the main goal of dark-urge play though?
@adamburow726
@adamburow726 10 ай бұрын
@@spaceerror_3571 Murder Hobo Playthrough
@Palumtra
@Palumtra 9 ай бұрын
You don't have to play as the Dark Urge to be a murder hobo, but it indeed offers a lot more brtuality options than "normal" playtroughs. As the name suggests, and that's the beauty of it, it only gets as dark as the player wants it to be. The fact that the original appearance is also a white/pale dragonborn almost feels like a small Paarthurnax reference from Skyrim, a dragon who overcame his own evil nature by himself.
@skynet0912
@skynet0912 5 ай бұрын
Withers is like Captain America: "If they hurt you, hurt them back! If you get killed... walk it off!"
@jcosmozd
@jcosmozd 7 ай бұрын
When i first saw this after playing BG1 and 2 it gave me the immediate and immense feeling of “HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN”
@pablothecoffeelover2551
@pablothecoffeelover2551 5 ай бұрын
BROOOO THE DRAGONBORN VOICE SOUND AMAZING
@DJGTgaming
@DJGTgaming 9 ай бұрын
As a monk, I just spammed topple and stunning strike and Orin was stun locked the whole fight.
@allecsgaut8161
@allecsgaut8161 8 ай бұрын
You know, I read that Withers is hinted to be Jergal, or at least connected to him. For him to be moved by this, wow
@equinoxxed_7502
@equinoxxed_7502 6 ай бұрын
it is all but confirmed, he IS jergal. and he fucking hates the dead three. So for Durge to defy bahl only to die is a big no no for him.
@HypnoHeart101
@HypnoHeart101 9 ай бұрын
“You don’t deserve the Murder Lord’s Blessing!” “Fool… I AM THE MURDER LORD.” …at least that’s how my first playthough went. Come on. We all want to be the bad guy sometimes.
@miqotelover
@miqotelover 9 ай бұрын
Gosh this game truly is incredible. It needs to win several game of the year awards for the writing, and script.
@VOXindie
@VOXindie 9 ай бұрын
Game is trash.
@marquisepixley684
@marquisepixley684 8 ай бұрын
​@@VOXindietroll
@yasiegonlastie5483
@yasiegonlastie5483 6 ай бұрын
Congratulations chief, how we feeling?
@miqotelover
@miqotelover 6 ай бұрын
Feeling good BG3 won GOTY :D@@yasiegonlastie5483
@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs
@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs 6 ай бұрын
So it was written, and so it is.
@skeletonking4119
@skeletonking4119 7 ай бұрын
16:06 honesty this is so much motivation and self growth!
@cletusmcyeetus5975
@cletusmcyeetus5975 4 ай бұрын
I find it funny how your companions just stand there looking at you dead
@hal64738
@hal64738 9 ай бұрын
I haven't finished the game with the dark urge but i love watching these videos as if it was a tv serie about Dungeons and Dragons. And it's incredible how they gave so much depth to the whole Forgotten Realms pantheon and lore
@seeinred
@seeinred 10 ай бұрын
So Seceleritas is indeed immortal. Which in turn would made him one of the Bhaal's avatars. Lesser one, but still. Huh.
@BeAsTMoDE528
@BeAsTMoDE528 10 ай бұрын
how is him being immortal evidence hes bhaals avatar he became bhaals avatar after the fight. u dumb.
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 10 ай бұрын
This storyline kinda reminds me of Spawn.
@RazielTheUnborn
@RazielTheUnborn 9 ай бұрын
I mean, dude tells you that many of his favorite deaths are by your own hands.
@RazielTheUnborn
@RazielTheUnborn 9 ай бұрын
@howardchang5106 He is quite sincere so long as you embrace your inheritance. He only gets two faced when you keep pushing off your urge.
@adamgoyer2077
@adamgoyer2077 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I didn't realize the Durge has this kind of redemption path. Much Gratitude.
@LivingDewCrew
@LivingDewCrew 8 ай бұрын
Oh I get it now. if you reject the entire path she takes all your blessings. I had done everything and rejected the blessing at the end so I never got to see Orin's slayer form
@eagleye2893
@eagleye2893 5 ай бұрын
I had no idea that Orin's Slayer Form was determinant on whether you actually got it yourself. I always assumed Orin would enter Slayer Form regardless if you got it or not (not that I would ever sacrifice one of my companions to get it)
@crepooscul
@crepooscul 10 ай бұрын
Dovahkiin. Dragonborn. Heh
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 10 ай бұрын
Now that I think of it, I should have named him Paarthurnax. 😄
@bastiisalive
@bastiisalive 9 ай бұрын
@@Azumgi “What is better: to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”
@Ryank117
@Ryank117 9 ай бұрын
Pretty cool that you can play a redemption arc through it. I might try playing paladin with dark urge and resist
@anders8461
@anders8461 9 ай бұрын
Oath of vengeance against Bhaal? Damn it sounds so good ngl
@ManforSomeMarkets
@ManforSomeMarkets 7 ай бұрын
You may or may not break your oath at least once in Act 1
@IIC7
@IIC7 7 ай бұрын
Paladin Durge is pretty fun and engaging storywise. My paladin who has these terrible thoughts is doing everything he can to prevent another innocent life from being taken like a certain hopeful bard. It's actually because of what happened my character became a paladin 2/bard 10 by Act 3 all the while using her lute. My paladin/bard did become an oathbreaker but the first time I used the oathbreaker channel oath was on Orin. Let me tell you that fight and this scene was absolutely surreal.
@blancat.7174
@blancat.7174 6 ай бұрын
I truly recommend to break your Oath at some point because the Oathbreaker NPC has great dialogue options and the lore behind why you are an Oathbreaker Paladin is juicy af. I honestly consider Oathbreaker Paladin the canon job for Good Durge because the lore and how well it works narratively makes the most sense.
@XLR108
@XLR108 5 ай бұрын
her shapshiftnig into you makes me wish that maybe dialogue being voiced by Tav would have been really cool
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 6 ай бұрын
The Dark Urge as Dragonkin is just fantastic and menacing. It was my first playthrough, too.
@DriftScale
@DriftScale 6 ай бұрын
The crazy part is he rejects not only bhaal.. he rejected his soul too by becoming half illithid
@soham3025
@soham3025 6 ай бұрын
Baldur's Gate 3 casually having another Major Milestone - the Redemption Arc of a born evil
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 8 ай бұрын
Okay now that I know you can have a redemption arc I'm gonna have to do a Durge playthrough next. I'm a sucker for a good redemption arc.
@Dazdigo
@Dazdigo 7 ай бұрын
Urge is clearly Jergal's favorite/chosen!
@user-ko7iq5vg3e
@user-ko7iq5vg3e 3 ай бұрын
4:29 Note that the appearance or whatever Mimic looking spell that is doesn't have the Withered appearance of the Character so that means if they were to impersonate the Dark urge they wouldn't even fool anyone especially without the scars
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 3 ай бұрын
I think he has no illithid veins not because she cant fake them but because its just Orin mocking him and acting like him BEFORE he lost his memory to show him how far he have fallen. She ACTS like old you to mock you that everything you have achived was undone by her and only by her. Or it could be that im just overanalyzing it and the devs just forgot about the veins.
@marbleherogaming735
@marbleherogaming735 5 ай бұрын
Sceleritas fel is such an interressting character And Withers is such a homie.
@0jutai
@0jutai 9 ай бұрын
I wish we could play through the game with Durge as a companion, rather than having to play him ourselves. I'd love to be able to have my character interact with him, and guide him.
@richardshiflett5181
@richardshiflett5181 5 ай бұрын
Durge would succumb to their Urge if they weren't player controlled.
@eagleye2893
@eagleye2893 5 ай бұрын
​@@richardshiflett5181Going by Companion logic. We'll probably need to pass a check to convince Durge to fight back. Or have Max Affinity with Him (Going by Default Durge being a Male Albino Dragonborn Sorcerer using Voice 5)
@WasaWasabiWasa
@WasaWasabiWasa 16 күн бұрын
I think it's more interesting the way it is honestly. I think Durge should be the canonical Tav.
@solarRinn
@solarRinn 3 ай бұрын
Why tf the Dead Three are all assholes, but Jergal, who actually was all three in one person, so to speak, is so much of a wholesome guy?
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 3 ай бұрын
Because Bhall Bane and Myrkul used to be a mortals and they achived godhood and on top of that they were pretty evil, especially Bhall who was just a human serial killer.
@nikogarcia201
@nikogarcia201 Ай бұрын
Before their ascension to godhood, Bane was a cruel tyrant, Baal was a serial killer and a rapist and myrkul was a necromancer with a god complex as well as a mad scientist. Godhood change nothing about their personality.
@avenreir
@avenreir 6 ай бұрын
I almost didn't watch this because I haven't beaten Durge for myself yet, but I'm not one to be thrown off because of spoilers. I'm so glad I watched and I'm so excited to see all of this for myself. I'm so glad that Durge gets a second chance if they reclaim themself and stand up for what's right. Withers FTW.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 6 ай бұрын
Dont worry there are more plot twists in the Dark Urge playthrough especially at the act 2/3 and the end game.
@TheImaggine
@TheImaggine 8 ай бұрын
this is exactly why I will never consider any other dark urge run as canonically.
@gar-feels4438
@gar-feels4438 6 ай бұрын
I got to this fight and immediately got killed by Orin, I still defeated them after but it was far less satisfying to miss this great cutscene
@xrunner55
@xrunner55 8 ай бұрын
Sororocide awaits, he gives it away what Orin is.
@dumbfukx
@dumbfukx 4 ай бұрын
yenna running completely opposide way than going home is funny
@CandyHatsuneWolff
@CandyHatsuneWolff 6 ай бұрын
Why did I not think of the name Dovahkiin? 😭😭 It's perfect. Though I guess it caught me off guard; my brain stopped as it had a "does not compute" moment. "Wait, this isn't... isn't this the wrong game?" 🤣
@lawrencefosterjenkins8216
@lawrencefosterjenkins8216 2 ай бұрын
Something very satisfying about that killing blow being a cantrip
@elongatedsedation324
@elongatedsedation324 6 ай бұрын
I rejected Bhaal just because I was playing as a manipulative dragonborn sorcerer who despises being someone's slave due to being a Dragonborn (Dragonborns were the slaves of dragons), and I still decided to be the biggest asshole I could so that my actions were truly my own and not some stupid God's.
@Tyrantlizard127
@Tyrantlizard127 6 ай бұрын
You know, I get the feeling that Bhaal and his cult were inspired in no small way by Khorne.
@JYDWolf
@JYDWolf 9 күн бұрын
You should have acted. They're already here. The Elder Scrolls told of their return. Their defeat was merely a delay, 'Til the time after Oblivion opened, When the sons of Skyrim would spill their own blood. But no one wanted to believe, Believe they even existed. And when the truth finally dawned, It dawns in fire! But, there is one they fear, In their tongue he is Dovahkiin: DRAGONBORN!
@radicalmarxist9909
@radicalmarxist9909 5 ай бұрын
Dark Urge looks awesome.
@flabbergasted6231
@flabbergasted6231 9 ай бұрын
I think if I ever get the game and play as the dark urge I will make my character look similar to Orin but much less gross lol.
@lucasvhinever2817
@lucasvhinever2817 9 ай бұрын
Having Karlach cover her beautiful face in these cutscenes should get ur saves erased from steam lmao (only half kidding)
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
I thought that she looked more badass in that outfit 🥺
@mausolus8466
@mausolus8466 4 ай бұрын
"Thou art now faithless - godless - and doomed to wander the Fugue Plane for eternity" wait, does that mean that, at long last, Wall of Faithless has been removed from the Forgotten Realms universe? I mean, wandering Fugue Plane for eternity is not exactly picnic, but it still beats fate of being turn into brick in wall that slowly erodes your consciousness.
@jackriley6802
@jackriley6802 6 ай бұрын
Withers always comes in clutch
@chrisvieau6781
@chrisvieau6781 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you have the two OG's alongside what I presume is the Romance pick. Adds a lot of substance to this scene. Withers cracked a smile! He witnessed a great legend unfold in real time, and even got to give a huge middle finger to Bhaal.
@jeremytitus9519
@jeremytitus9519 9 ай бұрын
Sororicide awaits!
@thomash8408
@thomash8408 26 күн бұрын
I did this duel with a storm/oathbreaker sorcedin, and my god, it was super funny. Orin couldn’t even get me below half my health, mainly because I went to the house of hope and got a bunch of goodies.
@aidanedwards8931
@aidanedwards8931 2 ай бұрын
When I fought Orin as a barbarian Durge, I stunned her, and wailed on her. It was way easier than I anticipated, though it may have been because I was at max level
@TheSaphireKatana
@TheSaphireKatana 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what astarions reaction is?
@belial1821
@belial1821 6 ай бұрын
There should be a dlc where the long mission should be to kill bhaal for good.
@hangman4011
@hangman4011 9 ай бұрын
I'm almost certain your dialogue option is an Avatar: The Last Airbender reference about inflicting agony tenfold, similar to Iroh saying the same to General Zhao.
@davidtaylor142
@davidtaylor142 Ай бұрын
Actual canon ending
@voyagersmarch8776
@voyagersmarch8776 9 ай бұрын
I feel like Dark Urge redemption arc is the canon mc
@oblivionsweeper
@oblivionsweeper 8 ай бұрын
I wished you gained a form that is opposite to the Slayer form for the redemption arc, it seems like a waste to lose that kind of power🤔.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 8 ай бұрын
There is a book that Volo gives you when you save him that explains how some Bhallspawns managed to trick the Bhall into giving them Slayer Form while keeping their mind sane. Also Gorions Ward also could become a Slayer in BG2 but he had trouble controlling his form and few times you lost control over your character even if you are good. Its weird that Durge cant be a Slayer as a good guy, maybe they give us a option when defenitive edition comes out.
@glowhoo9226
@glowhoo9226 6 ай бұрын
@@Azumgiit’s because the slayer isn’t a form you take. You’re letting something possess you when you transform.
@IamTheCursedKing
@IamTheCursedKing 9 ай бұрын
I wanted the dark urge power but not submit to some pathetic god. Redeemed myself but continued to kill everything in sight
@yusufkaradag8983
@yusufkaradag8983 6 ай бұрын
Well bhaal was not that pathetic you know yeah as a character he is but he was too strong before cyric killed him after he return from death he become weaker
@Krystalocke
@Krystalocke Ай бұрын
Do you think that Withers gave up his position as the God of Death for similar reasons? Eventually growing tired of answering the prayers of murderers and sinners, hoping that one day someone would turn against their nature and seek redemption, but they never did.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi Ай бұрын
Kinda ironic that the most irredeemable character of them all was the one that reedemed himself.
@xenawarriorprincess3972
@xenawarriorprincess3972 8 ай бұрын
I think I understood most of that. I'll try to take it to heart and see what happens when I do an evil playthrough or a bad playthrough or something and when you saying resisting the first camping rest, do you mean killing that tiefling with the guitar? Is that the only thing you can't resist?
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 8 ай бұрын
Yes Durge always kills Alfira but you can show remorse for killing her, all tough there is a way to save her but its more of the bug rather than option.
@empirednw6624
@empirednw6624 5 ай бұрын
Sadly you couldn’t save your crazy butler too😢. Would have been cool if you could have made him normal too.
@cakeyeater7392
@cakeyeater7392 6 ай бұрын
Its unfortunate Jaheira died in the assault on moonrise in my playthrough.
@drakearvidsson6936
@drakearvidsson6936 25 күн бұрын
The withers isn’t a good guy.He merely saves you since there he has a famous adventurer to do what would otherwise be his own job.If you play as the dark urge even more so since he can then snatch bhaals prodigy into his own fold under the pretense of kinship.He is a true god.He could have anyone in the realms bend the knee to him.He choose the dark urge only to spit in the said faces of his own former coworkers the dead three that he himself choose to carry his own power before he weakened himself out of boredom.He saves the dark urge because it’s convinient. More so to the point illithid’s do not have souls in the traditional sense.Jergal the withers what ever you prefer to call him does not save you because he wants to help you as a friend.The dead three’s plans interferes with his own domain as much.As it does with the other pantheon gods in the story
@DanteD84
@DanteD84 6 ай бұрын
And here I thought The a Dark Urge was just some dumb murder hobo character, he’s actually really important
@merkoid5195
@merkoid5195 3 ай бұрын
What’s the name of the music that’s playing while the butler is being stabbed?
@InnerFire6213
@InnerFire6213 9 ай бұрын
Never interested in the dark urge play through but with this redemption arc i might give it a try after all.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
There is missconception about Dark Urge being a "evil playthrough" and thats wrong. Dark Urge is a origin for people that played older games and want their characters to have some kind of backstory. There is only one scene when you have no control over your actions at the act 1 to show you how dangerous your character really is. Its still possible to save the groove, lift the shadow curse etc. as the Dark Urge.
@Tyrantlizard127
@Tyrantlizard127 9 ай бұрын
What was your character's class? Looks like a fighter/paladin multiclass, but I'm not so certain.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
Pure Fighter with Eldritch Knight subclass
@Tyrantlizard127
@Tyrantlizard127 9 ай бұрын
@@Azumgi Gotcha.
@justachad6494
@justachad6494 9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for asking lol. Came here searching and glad I found it.
@4ksandknives
@4ksandknives 8 ай бұрын
IIRC, Dark Urge was the original Tav, but Larian changed it up last minute.
@howsad2397
@howsad2397 8 ай бұрын
Shouldn't've honestly
@quantras2673
@quantras2673 8 ай бұрын
Honestly Larian should go with the approach they took to the Dark Urge for future games. I don't personally care about playing the entire game as say Astarion, but if I could have a custom character who was a spawn who broke free? I'd be more interested in that.
@ElMassi666
@ElMassi666 2 ай бұрын
Man Geralt was being kind of a dick here
@marekszojer5410
@marekszojer5410 9 ай бұрын
My scalefriend in Bhaal what gear are you using?
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
Armor: Reapers Embrace (Kethric Thorn armor) Helmet: Helm of Baldurian Gloves: Gauntlets of Hill Giant Strenght. Boots: don't remeber the name but i think I bought them from Dammon in act 3. Cloak: The Deathstalker Mantle (basically a Dark Urge cloak) Sword: Baldurian Giantslayer. I Don't remember the trinkets.
@occultcenturion1131
@occultcenturion1131 9 ай бұрын
What armor is your Dark Urge wearing?
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
Reapers Embrace. Armor that drops from Kethric.
@harael257
@harael257 8 ай бұрын
what playthrough do you play dark urge?, cause I'm intrest to make it my first playthrough
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 8 ай бұрын
If you are planning to go for redemption then do it. It was mine 1st playtrough and i dont regret it. Just don't get discoruged by him in the beggining because the payoff is amazing.
@ryncores1803
@ryncores1803 5 ай бұрын
So pretty much the dead 3 got greedy in their hunger for souls that they almost ruined the mortal realm and still would have lost as mindflaters have no souls.
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 5 ай бұрын
*Spoiler warning* Later on you learn from the brain that Dark Urge never wanted to control it. He wanted the city to be slaughtered by it and become Bhall chosen but Orin kinda ruined it for him. Basically the same thing Sarevok wanted in BG1. Its kinda ironic that person that caused everything saved everyone in the end.
@hideakiakio6698
@hideakiakio6698 5 ай бұрын
​@@Azumgiexcept I'm pretty sure seravok in bg1 did not want to become his chosen he wanted to usurp him
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 5 ай бұрын
@@hideakiakio6698 yes you are right but I meant that Sarevok wanted a slaughter of many people just like a Dark Urge.
@matthewsimmons9277
@matthewsimmons9277 9 ай бұрын
What point is there to resist if saving the female silver Dragonborn bard is impossible?
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
To protect further victims from yourself.
@TehLightraven
@TehLightraven 8 ай бұрын
To motivate the player to resist and to make the urges feel like an actual threat? It's not like the dragonborn bard matters anyway since they were created solely to be killed in that scene by durge.
@Josh-cf7xf
@Josh-cf7xf 5 ай бұрын
Does he call you faithless and godless if you play as a cleric?
@danaramand7552
@danaramand7552 3 ай бұрын
Is Bhaal voice also the Witcher's one? 😮
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 3 ай бұрын
Yep its Doug Cockle who voices Geralt of Rivia.
@Enkarashaddam
@Enkarashaddam 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but you killed Alfira so there can be no redemption
@Azumgi
@Azumgi 9 ай бұрын
You have no control over her death and you can show remorse multiple times for killing her in the game. Her death was a reason why Dark Urge tried to resist the urges. And don't forget that if it was not for Withers he would be dead.
@Krovos_
@Krovos_ 9 ай бұрын
Dark Urge literally says he will always remember Alfira at the end of the game if you do the good route.
@hgyuuuuhj098
@hgyuuuuhj098 9 ай бұрын
F. Alfira and everything she stands for. Would do it again even after redemption
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