The person portraying Anakin was Bryan from the KZfaq channel Always Believe.

That was the best part! Even though Anakin/Vader does NOT have Firce LIGHTNING ability

He's been cosplaying as Anakin with his friend as Obi Wan at Comic Con recreating their fight on Mustafar before he met his Ashleigh, his Padme.

The Anakin actor also looks more like Mark Hamill than Hayden Christensen does.

That guy could have been Hayden Christensen's twin brother!

Brett Eide facts i agree

Lol me too

You would think that LOTR fanboys would be far more upset since Gandalf lost while possessing one the most powerful artifacts in nerdom. At this point if I got the opportunity to direct a Star Wars film I would instead turn em down and have the studio just come out with make your damn Star Wars movies apps vs pandering to a bunch sad pathetic beta males whining over the internet.

Brett Eide Stoor hobbits could have beards.

@@garyjones2561 and Vader could actually use force lighting as well but he simply refused to Dew it.

Pray I don't alter the deal!

Vader: The wizard's sword has as much or even more power than my lightsaber. Boy, gather your master's sword and perhaps I shall allow you to live. With this ring and sword, I shall become what my master could not. Now sword of Gandalf,.We shall see how you bleed.

You shouldn't have come here old man.

Sadly you spell Gandolph which is Gandalf. This video is a hoax, a fanboy made up video. With lack of knowledge, passionless, fools who don't read books only comics. You don't know who's Olorín, Gandalf. Go do more research.

@@immortal_jairo88 actually, while I agree its rigged in Vader's favor, it was other fanboys who voted for the rigging in Vader's favor

Can you please suscrive the lyrics from ther conversation?

@@darthzannah2900 6:56

But did he actually get his hand cut off or was that some magic

@@benchotka5768 yes, that's why he had to use the Force to summon it back

@@Viking_Luchador uhh

I agree it was sick

Yes it was

It’s true

Having Gandalf turn himself into Anakin so Vader can face himself. That's just very clever writting

Kinda symbolic in the sense that Anakin is still there.

Anakin at his full power would win

@@sharlenegertruida7110 but he didn’t defeat the high ground

Anakin is vader

i know right omg

high ground defeat both of them

Palpatine would utterly destroy Gandalf to be honest

Palpatine should battle Sauron (when Sauron had a body).

Gandalf literally would just wave his walking stick and Palpatine would be unable to move....just stop lol

@@lethayle3388 Gandalf would have no chance against Palpatine...... palpatine will just hit him with force lightning and he is directly dead.

No obvious that the predetor is the best

how is this not one of the most liked comments??

@@Viking_Luchador holy shit someone actually noticed me

@@swaglevi4315 I feel like that all the time 🤷‍♂️ been watching @batinthesun since MySpace, felt like revisiting the classics for my Bday. And after 8 years, I still can't let it go: VADER CANNOT USE FORCE LIGHTNING!

@@Viking_Luchador i mean, technically he can. it's just that his suit is blocking him from using that high a level of force move

@@Viking_Luchador anyways happy birthday man!

Agreed.

you do not realize the full power of the dark side...

What do you expect? They probably only know him from the films.

GreenZubat indeed

Ivyn Taasin cant read so he waits for the movies. hence the star wars quote. read a book.

tom skywalker indeed truly disturbing

Wouldn't Vader be able to just instantly choke him to death

@MrMichael Afton its darth vader not dark vader

tom skywalker Really bro force lightning I’m dead 😂😂😂

@@moonlight5031 gandalf is a angel or god of natur something like that. not a man, just carrys the body of a old man. he is a mayar. one of the ainur and has even playd a role in the ainulindale/creation of arda (the world) just like sauron to is a mayar.

That shit was cool tbh even though he technically can't

He used force lightning before in Force Unleashed 2..

It’s Kinetite!

He can but it is weaker than the light side version of the lightning. It's sad how much Vader was nerfed

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9Vjh9yc0rq8ioE.html

it looked cool

AtomixxLP It also would have looked cool if Gandalf would have shot lasers from his eyes, while breathing fire. But it would have been stupid.

L0L

Kenice You mean Kinetite? Because Kinetite looks nothing like that, it's a sphere of electricity mixed with kinetic energy. It's an obscure technique, that's generated away from the user's body. Which makes it perfect for Vader, who's mechanical hands are literally incapable of channeling traditional force lightning, at least not without electrocuting Vader himself. Furthermore, Vader was only able to use it because of his close proximity to the Kaiburr crystal. You obviously don't know much about Star Wars, do you?

yeah rip, I meant kinetite.

Saruman.

and at the end he could have said " all too easy"

+Lachlan Tang Yes he can. He just never really uses it due to him being mostly machine.

Frieza Cold Darth Vader cannot use Force Lightning because of his severed arms. Robotic parts cannot summon Force Lightning. Get your facts straight

Lachlan Tang His arms are not severed his legs are. His arms are severly burned only.

No. OH MY GOD! In Episode 2 Attack of the Clones, Count Dooku cut his right arm off and in Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith, Obi-Wan Kenobi cut his left arm and both his legs off. Get your facts right bro

Lachlan Tang Fine whatever. I was never a Star Wars fanatic and its been years since I seen it.

Him against post-mastery Luke Skywalker would've been a more interesting fight.

Ha ha ha ha, sorry, ha ha ha ha.

Yah. The only thing Vader won here was having a troupe of fanboys

And yet, in the movies the only power he displays is creating a very bright light😂

@@kylekuhn5882 That is because he swore an oath to never be in his true form in his quest to help and guide the people of middle earth. If we take aside the fact, that he could dispel any force power Vader could throw at him with a flicker of his eye, since the force in comparison to power given by pretty much god would be just illusion, Gandalfs true form would be allowed since this isn‘t anymore just about middle earth, but the whole of Arda (middle earth is the continent, and Arda the world). His true form would be an almost biblical angel. Something we cannot fully comprehend without going mad. Vader isn‘t able to win this one.

Presiciy!

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kinetite

It’s treason, then.

No he's fucking not 😂😂 its in the comics. Its not lightening persay but very close to it. Jeez

Presicily my fellow Star Wars nerd. He is just simply incapable of producing such thing with out frying his self

I think that he also looks more like Mark Hamill than Hayden Christensen does.

Didn't look like vader was using lightning, more like absorbing it with tutiminus.

Doesn’t Vader use force lightning in legends

He doesn't really do it in the movies but he uses it in games.

yup

Actually Vader does have lightning

first of all he cant yes also since when does Gandalf have a freaking lightsaber staff i mean why

poda

Dooku is fucking strong af, he'd beaten Anakin and obi wan twice and nearly bested Yoda also the suit stunts Vader even further

Actually that was fellowship. As Gandalf the White, Saruman(or in this case Dooko) didnt and wouldnt stand a chance

@@maxmcvey8425 I stand corrected!

@@billmarrison9090 but yea Gandalf the Grey did get pretty smacked about by him btw sorry if that previous comment was rude at all wasnt meaning to come off like that 😂😂

@@maxmcvey8425 no offense taken!

I know Gandalf is really powerful and all but it really pisses me off that, at least in the lord of the ring trilogy, his strongest attack in war was a fucking flashlight. That doesn't really make him look very strong at all.

***** doesn't sound like you read the tolkin books

Actually Vader is able to use force lightning he just doesn't because it is going to fry his cybernetics and is basically suicide for him

Zman MC exactly. He isn't able to use force lighting. Him being able to use it in theory isn't exactly relevant if actually using it would kill him.

***** He's a god but has limitations when interfering with the affairs of mortals. If he wished he could of single handedly taken down the entire orcish army and Sauron but that would break the rules. In reality he is merely a guide for mortals so that they can defeat Sauron.

His "wizard" shell is much much weaker and killable.

That is not actually true. They are immortal, but their physical bodies can be destroyed. That being said Gandalf did die fighting the Balrog and Eru Ilúvatar sent him back. As a direct agent of the creator deity they are very much immortal in the truest sense of the word. Once physically destroyed he could be sent back just as he was in the books. Just so you are aware Webster defines Immortal as: the quality or state of someone or something that will never die, unending existence. You are speaking of biological immortality like that of tardigrades and some jellyfish.

BattleFrontStudios He only brought Gandalf back because he had yet to complete the task of ensuring that the One ring was destroyed. I always pictured Gandalf at the bottom of the chasm with the word continue floating in front of him and a countdown timer.

the only problem with that is that gandalf can be killed albeit temporarily, so a plasma sword cutting threw him would put him into a regeneration cycle.

Sequel?

been watching @batinthesun since MySpace, felt like revisiting the classics for my Bday. And after 8 years, I still can't let it go: VADER CANNOT USE FORCE LIGHTNING! now on the one hand, all Gandalf had to do was damage Vader's life support system. However, with the Sith being sorcerers themselves in a way, I think he might be able to counter any of Gandalf's magic. But the important thing is, we're only talking about Gandalf the Grey. If this was demi-god Gandalf the White, he could've handled Vader no problem

Actually according to legends vader had a special less powerful lightning that his suit could use that wasn't actually force lightning so he could be using that in this video

@@Viking_Luchador also no, Gandalf the white still would have lost as anikin was a GOD in his own right, especially now that disney decanonised mediclorians which means vader is even more powerful than he was on mustifar when he lost to obi wan so he is basically a god.

@@3mmaplayzmg actually, according to the Legends timeline, midichlorians didn't actually cause the Force, they just accumulated in the blood of people who were Force-sensitive. But if we are taking all of Disney's retcons into account, Vader should actually be WEAKER since everything we've seen Jedi & Sith capable of in novels, comic books, and video games "officially" never happened. On a personal note, with all the calls to break up Big Tech because of their violations of anti-trust laws, I want Disney to be broken up. Forced to sell off all their acquired assets over the past decade. Lucasfilm, Marvel, 20th Century Fox, etc. The only reason Gandalf didn't do more in LOTR was because he doesn't want the mortal races to become dependent on the wizards to solve all their problems for them.

@@Viking_Luchador yes he can u don’t read Star Wars comics

milly nord yes... ronald vs the king lololololol please! make them throw chicken nuggets at each other!

The Racka Racka made a similar video.

+milly nord kfc vs mc donalds will be better

+Joe Xnsa There is already a video that did that...

+milly nord yes

Ahhahahahah so true

just because of force lightning?

can force lightning as a darksider can emit it from anywhere. They usually choose their hands. Just because he has a robotic limb doesn't mean he can't use it.

He knows how to master force lightning, but he simply can't duo to his suit. It would cause too much damage and he would eventually die

Motomori Tonburi no he cant use it he has robotic hands look it up

I did, and that's non canon

No you're wrong. Vader literally CAN NOT use force lightning.

I thought he COULD OF learned before he became dependent on the "suit". Its possible that he could of out of his left hand but considering that Ventress never did in TCW but did in the older one (I THINK) he might not of learned. I'd be funny if he could use it. Because it wouldn't come out of his hands, I'd have to come from his body XD Funny when you think about what'd it look like if he tried to without his suit. In the older Clone Wars he's still able to use the force out of his ROBOTIC HAND despite it being blown off. I guess his arm then. Plo-Koon used something similar to force lighting but only for stun use.

TheNuisanceBird The force is different. Force lightning needs real hands to channel through. Not artificial.

No that I think about it: How does/did he use the force out of his hands? I guess the force is that "amazing"

TheNuisanceBird The force doesn't have to channel through hands.

I would just become a rock giant and beat the shit out of vader, since Gandalf can be whatever he wants

@@yes3545 tell Gandalf to become made of sand :)

@@archferrier4482 fuckin why?

@@yes3545 to scare Darth vader everybody knos anakin hates sand

@@archferrier4482 ooooh, yeah I'm not much a star wars guy but that's a great idea

Who cares it was epic.

@@xshullaw Who cares about epic. We care about a genuine discussion.

@@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 It wasn't a discussion until you commented.

Neither vader, vader would just insta crush that old mans neck

@@Intellectual_Paradigm-Jedi You're illiterate. Gandalf isn't an old man. There, some knowledge for your childish brain.

A staff can't become a lightsaber type thing.

Alucard BloodyVampire Exactly. Gandalf is an Istari and the gods created them to fight other gods. Gandalf's form as an old man was just an affectation and not Gandalf's true form.

CorsetGrace The Valar aren't gods they are just Arch Angels and Morgoth is basically lucifer

***** Cool...good to know. =D

***** And sauron is just a dog .

naunau311 sauron is not a dog, but he got beaten by one in the silmarillion :D

Exactly!

The lightning he uses comes from his suit but he can use a sort of lightning I think

@@slightchance3502 where in canon or movies do we see it?

The Emperor can use force lightning why wouldn't Vader?

@Luc Germain You're correct.

ok good for you

WOW yeah!

Grand Theft Gamer not really. Gandalf would've died a more painful death

Grand Theft Gamer Nope. Gandalf would be fried to f*ck. Also Sidious in the EU has survived ROTJ, lived in clone bodies, ripped wormholes in space and destroyed entire rebel fleets, and teleported people across the galaxy. Or Sidious could just speedblitz and hack him up to pieces with his lightsaber.

Grand Theft Gamer Old Normal Wizard VS Old SPACE Wizard... I'd hella watch that

Jackspedicey 2

Ikr. He can use lighting but it is weaker than the light side version of lighting

You have become powerful my Apprentice.

Emperor Palpatine Indeed... What is my bidding, my master?

+Anakin Skywalker HAHAHAHAHA OMG THIS MADE MY YEAR

+Anakin Skywalker you're a legend

+Emperor Palpatine the force is strong with me my lord train me teach me the ways of the dark side of the force

Delicious.

Jonathan Covington i only got upset with the Captain America Vs Master Chief ;-; They do it depending on the VOTES so its not really good

Scioneer vader would destroy Gandalf especially the comics version.he just needs to force choke him then get his sabre and cut him in half don’t know how you think Gandalf could win I guess your just a Gandalf fanboy.

@@spider-man5262 It's called 'drawing a logical conclusion', sadly for you. Gandalf is not only not human - in actuality he IS a demigod, not only has one of the elvish rings, but his depictions in the movies let out one crucial detail. Gandalf - as well as his fellow Wizards - are only permitted to use a small part of their actual power while in Middle-Earth, since their mission is to guide the mortal races against Sauron, not fight him themselves. So no, Vader stands no actual chance, despite your "fanboyism".

That restriction would still apply to this fight,since it was set in middle earth,Vader has no such restriction, plus he's essentially evil space jesus

I don’t think Gandalf stands a chance, Darth Vader was not only trained in the Jedi ways, but the ways of the Sith too.

Totally

***** *Unchained melody starts playing P.S. a new fanfiction is born :-)

Captain Hotdog yeah I thought that was sketchy too, ut technically he can, he just doesn't because he hasn't mastered it, plus it's too detrimental to his respiratory system.

In depth, both his hands were burnt and replaced with cybernetics making it to where if he used it the electricity would flow through the hands, up the body and use it against himself

Captain Hotdog he uses kinettece which is a string of force lightning that doesnt harm him

kinetite

Captain Hotdog His suit has a FORM of lighning

@- so he’s not better then Hayden?

actually he does... it's powered by his suit.... it's just not as powerful as the regular force lightning.

Jairo Buchting Really? i thought due to his mechanical arms he was unable to conjure sith lightning...what do you mean powered by the suit?

his suit has power to create force lightning... it's just not as strong

Jairo Buchting I'm reading from a different cannon sources that the same thing "his mechanical arms prevent him from creating Force lightning" What are you reading?

Technically, he can't create force lightning because it would risk damage to his life support, not because of his organic limbs. Theoretically, he could generate it, but it would be risky to do. However, Vader can generate a form of lightning called Kinetite, which he probably used in the video. Vader's suit CAN NOT generate lightning.

+Catter Peener I would rather see Gandalf be set against Elminster Aumar from D&D Forgotten Realms if all possible, for Elminster Aumar is Gandalf's True Rival & Ultimate Imitator for different reasons since August of 1987, still remains that way to this day.

+Catter Peener Why?

+Catter Peener only a jedi can defeat the dark side and gandalf is not a jedi:D

As Much As I Love Gandalf And Lord Of The Rings I Am Going To Say Vader Would Win Because He Is An Awesome Character

+Catter Peener you underestimate the power of the dark side

"That name has no longer any meaning for me!"

Yup, being a deity / avatar, he can't even die.

I forgot what other force power Vader has is called but it's like force lightning but it is more on the side of kinetic energy. Plo Koon also uses this power

+Andrew Herbert Old man vs very skilled knight with a sword made of plasma. I would put my money on Vader

finalfight versus That old man surprised everyone in Middle Earth and fought in many battles with his sword and staff.

Meme Notyou Unlike Vader he had to look after companions. And last time I checked when Vader died, he stayed dead, whereas when Gandalf died he just became even more powerful.

+Andrew Herbert not properly a god but near.

Also that is why he didn't want to take the ring right?

Wow... Talk about savage

+Grandmaster Sub-Zero its the truth

+Xavi Golden Shit, I was going to say that. Good point. Vader can't use force lightning. It's established cannon.

+Xavi Golden He could , bot it hurts him more than the opponent

+Alketezer tak He can * , but * xd

+Aljaž Mihelčič Or sheer amount of "Vader can't use force lightning", "gandalf can't block lightsabers", "magic is not force", "Vader is conduit of Force and force is omnipotent so he must be omnipotent". Or whole "which one is stronger". I mean, can't we just enjoy the nice visuals and over-glorified version of showing fan option polls? They could just cut to point where after asking random people "who would win?" just show the numbers and say "Yeah, Vader would win by vote because 7% of more fans." Put up a crappy 10-frame animation of Vader force-chocking Gandalf, video done. Instead because they don't go to 60-minute length combat movie taking in according EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LORE (for Gandalf, it exists in form of three books, bunch of movies and at least three roleplaying supplements, and for Vader... Sheesh, not going to even count those book/comic numbers!), people turn really salty about everything in it.

+Eltharrion True 😂

+Aljaž Mihelčič One of the lesser appreciated joys of life.

+Eltharrion Yeah but for real VADER DOESNT DO FORCE LIGHTNING. My god anybody who watched star wars should know that. Things like this should be done by nerds for nerds. People that dont even know this basic shit shouldnt do videos about them. Dont get me wrong theres alot of other super power beatdowns I enjoy, but just the fact that they rely on fanvotes to see who wins is just bullshit. As nice as the visual effects are alot of other stuff is bullshit...

w00ds98 Then what about people who are not considered "nerds", are they disallowed to like or create material like this? For example myself, I am not 100% familiar with SW's Extended Universe. More like knowing only 3-10% of it, thus really making me "not SW nerd/geek". Should I be disallowed to comment here? They are clearly stating at start of video and throughout that they base this on votes, and simply re-create what they think is cool and enjoying to watch based on those fan votes. Votes that, seeing their usual vote base, doesn't know jackshit about stuff they vote for. In more than few episodes, I've seen voters state facts that are completely wrong. These are not studied facts or outcomes like for example Death Battles claim to be. I am not saying one cannot be disappointed at it, but I am simply directing my previous comment to people that start a flame war over this when they admit they are not using any scientific measurements. Those people who are calling this video favored are true, since this is a video made BY fans, FOR fans. Not nerds, not critics, not masters of lore. Just fans who like something VERY much. And even if like it, have not studied it to bone and soul. If one is not allowed to like something without learning everything of it, then I suppose I need to start hating the entire world soon. And that is all you can quote me on this one.

In what way is this fairly accurate it's literally outright stated that it's rigged Invaders favor also gandalf could've just used a lightning spell or something along those lines.

Darth Vader most likely used the force forcing Frodos hand open.

No it's for a few reasons first of all his suit is weak to it so even if he could use it it would most likely backfire heavily second when he limbs got cut off and he was put into the suit he lost a lot of his potential he was weakened when it came to using the force that's half the reason why he never upgraded his suit the pain it caused him made his connection to the dark side even stronger which is the only reason why he's more powerful than Anakin

@@xiswarmin firstly, Vader can use tituminis. The same ability that satele Shan used to block a lightsaber with her hands, and Yoda used to absorb lightning. We see this when Han shoots at him in ESB and Vader deflects it with his hands. So, Vader could deflect lightning with his hands. Therefore, he could also shoot lightning. If you don’t buy that argument, then consider that, in canon, Palpatine allowed Vader to customize and modify his suit however he liked. Obviously Vader would have modded it to make him stronger and be resistant to lightning. He has survived his own suit being shut down before anyway. Secondly, weaker sith than Vader have used force lightning. Vader was still exceptionally powerful despite loosing his limbs. And that’s only if we’re talking about legends. In canon, Vader never lost any potential. Saying Vader can’t use force lightning because we’ve never seen him use it is like saying Palpatine can’t use force choke because we’ve never seen him use it.

@@artyfarts8006 I'm pretty sure the reason Vader was able to use his hand to Block Hans Blaster bolts was because his hands were Blaster both resistant we see throughout the series or materials that Blaster bolts don't go straight through matter of fact most metals they don't even dent or whatever material they use

@@xiswarmin again, it’s a force power called tutaminis that was taught to all Jedi in the order. Vader simply using his hand is a common misconception. There have been plenty of uses of this throughout all Star Wars media.

+Pocket Heart yeah

***** No he didn't. He's been a great actor everywhere else, and his VISUAL acting even in Ep 2 and 3 is really great. His line delivery is garbage, and so is Natalie Portman's, another good actor in every other movie. No, he didn't ruin Star Wars, George Lucas' retarded "directing" did.

***** Maybe not, but my point is I don't think he would have ruined the film if he had a director that wasn't batshit.

+Pocket Heart "they ruined starwars" still watches it.

+nate “rocker” rackenstien Next to jar jar binks and the actor who played anakin as a child, i'm starting to notice a trend of anakin actors being absolute shit.

Interesting they both had same actors in those movies :D, its Christopher Lee

PES 4 EVER I think that was the point

xD yeah

rip such a genius actor

Plus Scaramanga and Dracula.

hey Vader can use force lightning but it hurts him and damages his armor and it was sideous original plan for vader because almost all sith lords in the past used force lightning

GENERICNAMED he physically CANNOT use Force lightning because he does not have a natural hand, which prohibits him from channeling it. Get your facts straight

In the Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary, under Darth Vader, in the Data File, it says -"As a result of having artificial arms, Darth Vader will never be able to conjure Sith lightning-nor be invulnerable to it."

Thanks for the support guys. I knew something was funky in that video. Ha!

That wasn't force lighting...it was...um...mechanical lightning beams. ya...ya...

I actually kept waiting for that to happen.

Lolooo

😂👌

Nope cuz gandolf the white still used the shit out of hobbits to do his work. He a coward. Vader would crush the white to🤣🤣

@@bradennichols3154 A coward who literally gives his life to save the world, and fights on the front lines in a battle that he cannot win. Yeah, your definition of coward is pretty strange.

Its best to not kill Gandalf the Grey, it generally unleashes a demi god.

He can't

christopher carlisle He did once in comics

@@alpborakirte801 in old cannon..

Attention seeker

@@christophercarlisle7887 Correct but he can use "Kinetite" a variation of Force Lightning.

I believe I saw a scene where the Witch King was easily able to defeat Gandalf the White, and the Witch King is not a divine being.

That was just the movies trying to boss up the Wicth King; it doesn't happen like that in the books. That said, however, the ring-wraithes draw their power from a (previously) divine being, so the Witch King is still above Vader anyway, I think.

GreenZubat Y'know, technically, the force is a divine being, and Vader, like all other Jedi and Sith, draws his power directly from it. So Vader is AT LEAST Witch-King level.

Ok, I did not know if that scene was cannon or not. I would say Vader is about equal to the Witch King, but I do not know how Gandalf would fair against the Witch King, and that is Gandalf the White I am referring too. All in all I would say Vader could take Gandalf the Grey, but not Gandalf the White.

Ohai Driku The force is not divine, it's just mystical in a vague way. Ironically, the force is more akin to magic, and jedi to wizards, in the proper sense most people think of than the LotR "wizards", who are actually five angels sent by God (Eru Illuvatar) to repel Sauron. At the end of the day, for all his dark side powers, Vader is still just a mortal man, below the immortal, divine Gandalf. In this respect, I find it hard to believe Vader would be more powerful than Gandalf (Grey or White).

lol i was thinking the same frase

It's a trap! the research is not strong with this one

The videos are decided by fans moron so it doesn't matter if the battle is one sided or not whoever the fans decide wins

It's a trap! I passed

I passed

+Bruno Shredsson (And also sexy) It kind of is. There`s a possibility that Gandalf the White returns!

+Eivind Bjørnenak I was waiting for him to come back as Gandalf the white and kill Vader. Gandalf is pretty much LOTR Jesus after all.

Blasphemer Gandalf should never be compared to him.

+GTA V World Champ Dude, Tolkien wrote Gandalf as a Jesus allegory, he was an open Christian and Gandalf the Grey coming back as Gandalf the White was a direct allegory to the resurrection of Jesus. His friend CS Lewis, another open Christian, did the same Jesus allegory with Asian in Chronicles of Narnia. If you think it's blasphemy, don't blame me, blame the authors.

+Valdemire Kreshnov As far as I understand, it gives you power depending on how powerful you already are. That is why Gandalf did not wanted to even touch the ring he said that the power would be too terrible for him to wield. Also it controls the other rings and gives mind control abilities.

Thank you. The movies weren't clear aside from the line, "One ring to rule them all." I know it sounds simple.. but, it's really vague.

+Valdemire Kreshnov The One Ring doesn't do anything to anyone, aside from the invisibility thing :). To be honest, we don't know what other powers it could grant, as the only person to wear the ring, aside from Bilbo and Frodo, was Isildur, and even he didn't note any other powers. To put it simply, the ONE Ring will corrupt the user into a pale imitation of Sauron. I think what Farrex was getting at with "powers" was the other rings, which did grant various other powers, though in the end they were ultimately created to be controlled by the One. Not sure where the "mind control" abilities comes from, because wouldn't Gollum have been able to just mind control Bilbo? Or exibit some formof mind control in the caves? But he doesn't. It has mind control powers ONLY for the one that created it. Then again, it HAS been a long time since I've read through Tolkiens earlier works, so I could be mistaken :)

sapherno11 I have not read Simarillion nor the Hobbit book, but a friend that has, told me that it has mind control abilities. That through those mind control abilities was the way that Sauron tricked everyone into thinking that he was an Elf and was able to give the rings. Also several people in other comments here mentioned the mind control abilities. As for the power one I have heard several people mention it on the internet and I simply thought it was real, people that they claim that they have read the books several times, but well you never know. Also when Gandalf refuses to take the ring in the Shire, he says that if he touches the ring the power would be too terrible for him to wield. Also it does not turn you invisible, it rather brings you to wraith world, where someone with knowledge of the wraith world could take advantage of it, but for a hobbit that knows nothing of the wraith world, well he just becomes invisible and sees some weird shit.

I've read both, and from what your friend said, I don't think he read them either, or very well. Basically, what happened was Morgoth, The Enemy, was defeated, and Sauron took his place. He attempted to destroy the Numenoreans, and eventually did so by tricking them, making them think, through treachery and deciet that he had "repented", when he had not. One of the ways he made them think he had changed, was he granted them knowledge of the Maia, specifically the Rings of Power. However, nobody knew he had made the Rings to rule all until HE put on the Ruling Ring, and the Elves knew, and warned the others, though it was far too late to save Numenor. Everyone knew Sauron was NOT an elf though, they knew he was a Maia. Not to point holes again, but just because someone mentions it, doesn't mean its true. the RULING Ring DOES have mind control powers. ONLY for Sauron, that effect does not work with anyone else. And each of the regular Rings of Power, the ones with actual powers, Gave the strength to "Govern each Race". Same with the "Powers". As far as I know, it only grants additional powers TO Sauron, or rather, to the Master of the Ring, and to no other. The other rings did grant additional powers, though at terrible cost. I"m well aware what Gandalf says, and more specifically, he says this. "I would wield this power for Good, but Through me, the Ring would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine." Meaning that if Gandalf had attempted to use the Ring, he would have become, possibly, more great and terrible a threat then Sauron ever had, Controlled by the power of the One Ring, corrupted by it, and becoming a pale shadow of Sauron.

ARey 1010 Basically.

Sulu Solo he can use kineetece ehich is a force lightning that dkesnt harm his cybernetics

He can, it would just hurt himself.

It's NOT force lightning. It's lightning generated by his suit. It's not as powerful as lightning generated from the force like Darth Sidious.

When Vader was close to he Kaiburr crystal in the Temple of Pomojema it amplified Vader's Powers letting him cast lightning. I'm guessing the Ring is having a similar effect in the video.

Solo Sulu Y'all need to read some novels and shit

Артём Гончаров just like any dark side users...

Louis-Philippe Nault use wikipedia smartass

Артём Гончаров While it's true that Vader can't use force lightning, he can create a condensed ball of electricity from thin air in front of him and use that to attack in more or less the same way force lightning works... I don't remember the name of the technique now, but it appears in one of the comics. Basically he uses the force to create force lightning in a way that doesn't come in contact with him. It's one of the several things Vader learned to adapt when using the force in his suit, like how he changed his fightning style to adapt to the suit's weight, and other things like that.

Persona Ohnlyne i hope that you will find girlfriend someday

Артём Гончаров I don't wanna find one. What for? So we can eventually get married, have children, have them live in this forsaken planet full of violence, injustice and death so they can repeat the whol thing over and over in a never ending cycle of doom and human despair?

the thing is, Gandalf kind of lacked the will to kill. also the whole being partly immortal thing comes into play, yes vader would not be able to kill him permanently but a lightsaber to the gut would put a bitch out of commission for a few days

NoESanity Lacked the will to kill? Tell that to the scores of orcs, goblins and uruk hai that he casually gave a towing to during the battles.

Autumn Gaslight yes because killing a good guy gone bad is totally as easy as killing the imaginary friends of the fucking devil made flesh

That's why he got beat hehe You just didn't specify who he didn't intend to kill :P If it means anything, I was with Vader all the way :)

Gandalf is actually in the range of 54,000 years old.

Damian Wayne™ 6:40 LOOK AT THAT, he actually looks like Luke's father haha

Ehhh....I still prefer Hayden. He looks a lot like a live action version of clone wars anakin though. But Hayden will always be Anakin to me, it's just burned into my brain even though he wasn't that good. If they remade the prequels and used this guy my brain would refuse it as canon and wonder wtf I'm watching, lol.

Damian Wayne™ I agree, this guy looks like he could be Luke's father.

Damian Wayne™ Yeah, he does have a strong resemblance to Mark Hamill. He would have been my choice for Anakin Skywalker.

The Batman Happy you agree, father.

Good death? I don't think getting your guts cut by a lightsaber is a good death xD

Backon Lazer Not if you're turned on by suck thing. c; It'd be a great death then.

Backon Lazer lol, i meant they didn't make him look stupid, they had him go down fighting as opposed to begging like a weak old man or something

"Hey I made fun of Lord of the Rings so much it made this guy puke. Where's the mop?"

Star Wars is an intergalactic rip off of LOR. Tolkien did it first and also did it best. And ROJ is Sesame Street compared to Return of the King.

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@@Viking_Luchador Trust me fanboy. I could care less what some middle aged burger flipper that has to ride Go Karts to be happy has to say about anything lol.

@@derkwayne1833 wow, it took you two whole months to come up with that I am damn impressed you are aware that I am not a fictional character from a movie, correct? it is very important to this conversation going further that I understand that you understand the concept of reality

They didn't put Gandalf the White instead they put form of a jedi which means they are lack knowledge of Tolkien's world.

@@immortal_jairo88 bit like how vader can just rip people in half.....

@@gamerknowledge539 yeah normal people.

@@immortal_jairo88 any... people...

@@gamerknowledge539 i know mortal beings.

One master for another.

next one is palpatine vs sauron

well middle earth is screwed

0_o That's one too many dark lords for the Rebel Alliance and Middle Earth to deal with

what the fuck are you saying, bro people in 2020 were pretty stupid

Kinetite?

Ans Gandalf is literally part of the maiar literally sngelical beings easily stomp Vader.