Make it so.

There are fo-fo-fo four lights.

@@Manicmanuel I understand my concerns now please show me way to my ready room and get yourself a tea Earl Grey hot.

It would be his "What I've learned from my various commanding officers" program, heavy on the Picard.

It's exactly what he would say as well

Fuzzyscarfandmittens Would be Nice if he did an other Worf. " can i see you in private pls" :)

@Savage Jesus His balls aren't metal. Just ask Tasha Yar.

@@fwacfred He is... fully functional.

@@mathewdeering In three different speeds 😁

Store manager at 21, one time my assistant manager who was in her 30's tried that line about experience, I was like, this is what I want and there is the door.

and even for an advanced intellect and technological mind like his, bullshit requires enormous amounts of processing to resolve.

People do that all the time.

We are not worthy of this comment😆😆😆😆😆😆

Reminds me of Jordan Peterson.

@@azskyking6542 Jordan Peterson is a musty fedora.

the attention to detail in this show is crazy

Nah a smart officer with the ability to do so would brief as much as possible on the crew under their command before they assume command. For most people if the order to assume command was at short notice that would be limited. But for Data, well. He would know the entire service records of every member of that crew inside out and already have compiled a list of strengths, and weaknesses subject to change, before 60 seconds had even passed. I think it's more that he is double checking his calculations as his XO has suggested there is some variable he may have missed. But yeah, great acting.

Never really picked up on that but great acting from Brent Spiner!

Didn't notice that, that's really good

Most likely he loaded it in advance, but it is accessing it at that point - sort of when he comes across an unfamiliar word and then pulls up the definition.

HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Convenient, wasn’t it?

I think Picard thought Data would be able to handle it, but he wasn't sure if he was going to be accepted

minutes onscreen, but hours canonically…

@@meganega123 i believe it was more of a test, he wanted to see if Data was willing to request command and take initiative than just accept that he wasn’t considered…he didn’t have a ship on standby for no reason, it was always Data’s ship to command

He almost sorta kinda reminds me of Father Mulcahey from MASH.

This is the best episode I would have expected Brent Spiner to have won an Emmy for. That he has not won one to date is baffling.

you have to keep this mixture above 90% or we will all die🤣

Hmm maybe. But I think data honestly doesn't care about this guys judgment or insecurities and will proceed with assignment knowing ultimate he's capable with some persuasion.

Exactly this. Credit to the XO for being mature and quietly airing his concerns directly. He doesn't want to make a scene or complain. Although, "I don't like androids being my commanding officer" probably isn't a good enough reason to transfer so Data was right to shut him down.

@@Her_Imperious_Condescension That's true about quietly sharing his concern, although I wouldn't congratulate someone of his rank for not making a scene. But ultimately I thought it was dereliction of duty. The XO wouldn't do his duty because he assumed Data couldn't do his. As far as he was concerned he wants the "problem" to be handled by someone else. "I think this situation may be problematic, so I'd rather someone else deal with it."

The thing is, Hobson tells Data he's a racist (or close enough) in front of the entire bridge crew. That's terrible behaviour for an XO, poisonous for ship's discipline, and a sign that he thinks serving under Data is *worse for his career* than being transferred or relieved of duty.

I understood that reference.

Just going to say that!

He eventually became Captain of the Enterprise E. A worthy successor to Picard.

@@leonrobinson8180 Let's see if Star Trek: Picard follows the comics on this or not. I get the feeling they will not.

Truth...and yet from episode 1 to the end of the series, from the first movie til the last....he was never promoted. Then we get the shit show that ST: Picard is and even if Data had lived he would have faced a death sentence from the very Federation he served for roughly 40 years.... the writers really have it out for Data

@@leonrobinson8180 In the comics, yes... in canon he blew up saving the Ent-E... went out like a BOSS.

@@THEAdmiralXizor and his mind was still alive in the Collective as he tries to speak to picard true the assimilated Enterprise system right before he SD it when he's alone.

In The Outrageous Okona he was constantly trolling everyone.

My pick would be Worf with Data as a close second

Yeah, it's like getting checkmated by the toaster in your kitchen.

@@handsomebrick I think they chose Spiner for this very reason, he was more experienced in comedy

I'd have to choose Q myself .

LOL... you are trying to use reason to argue with a space bigot. You have no power here.

@@JS-hw8ve But since the space bigot is outranked...

You have said it.

@@handsomebrick they have the same rank, only Data has been given the command role

@@SantomPh Then technically he was outranked by whoever assigned command to Data.

😂

A simple bitch slap would do...

@@deathtoll5000x Data can kill BORG drones with that bitch slap. A simple "No, Bitch" would suffice...

"You can go ahead and transfer yourself into outer space." 😆

*Tricorder puppet rises in periphery* ReQuEsT DeNiED

Epic

"I've been feeling troubled lately. Self-destructive, even." "Today is a good day to die!"

"And remember, it is always ok to have a death wish! All good warriors do" "Sir I don't think you understand the nature of my pro-" "Take the fucking bat'leth and set the program to level four, then you'll really want to die!"

I just flash back to the Geico commercial with R Lee Ermay, "Would a former Drill Sergeant make a terrible therapist?"

@@FerretJohn Ah, a good one.

Cheap writing tricks are literally all writers ever do in tv/movies these days. Like the Bond movies were even dragged down into the mire of turning them all into Netflix style episodes where every cheapest possible writer's trick was just thrown into a blender to force drama - ie, Bond and Blofeld are suddenly relatives (??), killing off characters constantly for cheap dramatic effect, every single movie Bond leaves the service for some reason then has to get asked back, every single movie they're all constantly banging on about "trust!" and "betayal!" every few lines. They even did the cardinal sin of cheap writing where they then killed off James Bond and suddenly threw in some totally unbelievable falling in love with some block of wood character he only just met and has had pretty much no relationship with nor even anything basic in common, then suddenly at the very end OH he has a daughter - chucked into the story blender for a few minutes to pretend there's a good story and drama. Every single movie and tv series does this stuff now, all written by committees of marketing executives telling a bunch of clueless hack writers what to do.

@@AD-kv9kj Shut the fuck up, crybaby.

Request denied

I believe that Data does have emotions. He just couldn't recognize them for what they were until he got his emotion chip. He was also programmed to be much more mellow and reserved than Lore.

SLAM!

That is what we call a power move.

At first I'm like, okay where is this video going? And then he completely wrecked him and I couldn't help but give a "take that" and "epic, Mr. Data" laugh.

It doesn't cost Data anything in this episode but it could easily have cost the mission if Data was called away from the bridge having a first officer who wont back your decisions is a risky thing! But in the context of the this episode they are right next to each other the entire mission so Data doesn't have to trust Hobson at any point which was lucky.

@@CoolCraftCool The thing is, if Data lets *anyone* leave because he's an android, it makes him look as if he too thinks he's unfit for command

True. He’s a peta’Q

you mean prune juice

@@vorsakend666 a warrior's drink

Klingons don't get credit for their intellect; which at least some of them must possess, else Q'Nos would never have gotten out of the Klingon version of the Stone Age.

Oh good, somebody beat me to the prune juice

@@jurgenronaaz4695 It seems there is no prune juice at all left for me, boo.

had me genuinely laughing out loud :D

I love Star Trek fans. "Just let me write an original character perfectly for this KZfaq comment."

Tenets or tenants?

@@bobbylow175 Good catch, thank you.

Goddess of Empathy !!!!!

But if you understood it you must agree with me! Anyone who disagrees with me is an uneducated trollop, clearly.

Whoa, WHOAH guy. We don't do nuance here.

in a next gen star trek comment section? If not here, where?

And it's painfully obvious in the Ukraine-Russia conflict these days. Whenever somebody says they *understand* why Russia attacked Ukraine, they're immediately called pro-Russian and pro-Kremlins. Doesn't matter they may not agree with the Russia's choices and merely understand them. Politicians, and I can safely say that it's the USA politics that's most at fault here, only see either complete submission, or enemies to be eradicated. And with the ease with which both information and opinions travel these days, this view is getting strongly imprinted on the general populace. I see a very real danger for the whole world in this.

@@becausebuzzbomb6133 Actually, it's more because they don't actually understand why Russia attacked Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine because they want control of it. Blunt truth. They've even admitted all the "Donbas Genocide" folks were paid actors. and that "NATO expansion" is utterly bullshit. The reason the people you're talking about get called Pro-Krfemlin and Pro-Russian is because they *are* Pro-Kremlin or Pro-Russian. They've fallen for propaganda the Russians *admitted* was bullshit.

you mean racism?

I bet he got a ding in his official record, though...

And honestly, we all like Data, but say we get pilotless airplanes at some point. Even though much is already automated people would still feel apprehensive by a fully automated cockpit I'm sure. It may be bigoted but his doubts were real and he was upfront about it too.

Few have the opportunity to grandstand, kick ass an take names, and save the resident bigots ass. None should ever need to. Personally I would just replace him as XO but not transfer him. Military is vindictive like that. You know how many clowns begging for a transfer or to be kicked out I served with lol. Their suffering was entertainment of a level that can’t be matched…. Yes yes i know I’m a terrible person. 🤷🏾‍♀️.

@@queenbee8045 Yeah, to be removed from that position but still have to serve on the same ship would be the ultimate insult. Data's handling of Worf's insubordination in Gambit pt 2 is worth watching too: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLN7p65_v92YcqM.html

@@zuur303 Data is no automated pilot. He graduated from Star Fleet Academy and proved himself with his record, having worked up to his rank as Commander the same as every other. It is not like he was intentionally made to be a leading officer; he earned it.

a calm dismissal by avoiding eye contact is certainly something a human might do also

@@stonem0013 You are one cold bastard....

@@lrmcatspaw1 not really... they're just not petty

Ahem. PADD. Respect the nerd-dom.

Doesn't need to establish dominance. He knows the Starfleet etiquette. He knows that the Lieutenant Commander knows and beholdens to it and that he doesn't need intimidation to make him do his duty.

To be fair, he didn't have much of an argument to begin with.

@@whiskeyfur I don't believe you're qualified to be Captain May I ask why? *racism*

They are professionals in a military situation, its basically the military or military role. There is no argument. LOL? The subordinate was way out of line. Almost in an unprofessional manor.

It doesn't though.

​@@spitfiremanlizerd Well there's that, but I also gotta agree with the XO. Robots aren't people, they aren't alive. Data's intelligent, but I completely understand his apprehension.

We didn't actually see Troi do a lot of therapy sessions on the Enterprise, though. Worf and Alexander are the only recurring patients I remember her having that we saw visit her multiple times.

@@ArthurRex131 She didn't do a wonderful job with Reg, and gave up on Zimmerman within two minuets.

@@Djarra You can't cure social anxiety disorder after two visits.

@@Djarra She managed to patch things up with the Doctor and Zimmerman by the end of that episode, and Reg became a pretty important officer at Starfleet headquarters

Troi's character was initially there for the "male gaze"- that's why they gave her that tight uniform and not much to do @@ArthurRex131

Your not suppose to like your superiors... they are above you. You take orders period.

Thats pretty much ANY type of job / career where you aren't working by yourself lol.

@The Other Point Of ViewIIRC Kennedy was thinking it too but couldn't bring himself to go against the military/intelligence guys. It was a display of weakness, but it might have made him more resolute during Cuban Missile Crisis.

@The Other Point Of View It's true. My grandmother was involved politically in the running of our town. She was basically on one end of the political spectrum and she always said that the best partner she ever had when it came to coming up with new ideas and troubleshooting stuff was a guy on the exact opposite of her on the political spectrum. I believe she was left and he was right. But they both wanted what was best for our town so they both overcame their political differences and used their differing perspective on things to come up with better ideas and keep each other grounded. It just goes to show that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't automatically make them an enemy. They may just have a different perspective or see things that you've missed, just like you might have a different perspective from them and see things that they have missed.

@@Fraggr92 That's why batteries look like this. - [░░░}+

Except he and Hobson are the exact same rank - that's really why he was pissed that Data was in command. Because he was not chosen, probably due to his poor attitude or something.

@@oregonflatland If Data had more time in grade, he would be senior to Hobson and regardless of rank, Data had orders which made him captain.

@@richardlahan7068 Even in civilian life, if you have been in an organisation for longer than your team mate, then you have seniority if the need arises.

Cesska STO - it’s interesting that he wasn’t chosen over Data since he is the same rank but in the command line of officers (red shirt). Data probably just has had more experience at that rank.

@@-007-2 Data wears the gold shirt due to his 2ndary roll as chief science officer in addition to being Picards No 2 (only medical wear blue in TNG series 1). It's the same as how Spock wore the blue shirt in TOS because he was Science officer on top of being 1st officer. If you watch the 1st series of TNG both Worf and Geordy have red shirts until they change roles. Dispite how it's used in various trek based games nothing on screen actually suggests starfleet has seperate/rigid career paths. Technically Data should have changed shirt, but since it was a short term assignment in an emergency it would have been pointless.

Hi Zack W - I'm so sorry for any kid that grows up in a difficult family or worse, or even 'just' in a family that loves them but doesn't understand them or their needs, or a family where they 'fall through the cracks,' etc. I'm glad you were able to get through it & find your way past it while winding up w/ some clarity about it. Every child deserves love & deserves a safe, functioning, nurturing, stable family. As a kid, I had love from family & still sometimes suffered, but someone had let me know this: Jesus loves you, & he loves everyone. That made a difference in my life & he was my 'true north.' Hoping for you all good things in life.

@@AJ-yw7hf Alona, thank you for your kind words and concern. But seriously, this thread is about Data. How dare you come in here and try to use me, my life, my experiences, my hardships and my accomplishments, all of which you know nothing about, as a soap box to push your religious drivel? Do you know what Data and Jesus have in common? They are both fictional characters who don't exist and can't directly do anything to help anyone. Do you know what the idea of Data has brought us? Entertainment and inspiration. Do you know what the idea of Jesus has brought us? An institution which has perpetrated eons of hatred and violence. Your religion is nothing more than a mechanism to explain the weather, brain wash and control the population and to justify atrocities. Good people will do good because they think it's the right thing to do. Evil people will do evil because it suits them. The difference is, good people don't need a justification. On the other hand, telling a bunch of folks who have been trained from birth not to think for themselves that the "word of god" is that we need to go kill those people over there, or accept whatever cruelty over here, has been a really successful tool for evil people to use. Just want to model yourself after a character because you agree with their ideals? Fine. I choose a scientist and humanitarian who is strong, intelligent, puts other people first and attracts the occasional strong, beautiful, independent woman. You want unconditional love? Get a pet. You want salvation? Believe in your self. Find your own strength. That's what I did. Don't diminish your own worth or the accomplishments of yourself or others by placing your faith in ludicrous fairy tails.

@Lucas Lucas I've been asked that before.. But no. I was on board with what this guy was saying until he brought up religion.

@Lucas Lucas I'm not a kid and I don't need help. I'm doing fine. That's my point. It's all these idiots who think Jesus is going to save them, who get under my skin. They piss their lives away making poor decisions and don't hold themselves accountable. They can't put two and two together, because they were taught not to think for themselves. Religion isn't the only problem, but it's at the root of many of them. Sorry if I came off too extreme on this guy.

@@zackw4941 Those who do not take personal responsibility do not know their own religion. From a worldly, psychological perspective, Christianity is about becoming a better person. The motivation to the person is couched in mysticism, but the end result is a better person... if all tenets are followed properly. When it comes to purely secular results, Jesus of Nazareth and Gene Roddenberry had the same goal. I'll stick to the requirements for God's forgiveness. There's so much more about personal responsibility in the Bible, but I'll stick to this because it's what you brought up. Jesus flat-out says that even if you profess and believe, if you do not love thy neighbor as thyself, Jesus will not know _you,_ and will not intervene for you on judgement day. He might not speak against you, but He will not speak for you, either. On top of accepting Jesus as your savior, these are the requirements to receive God's forgiveness for your sins. 1) Admit you have sinned. This need not be aloud, but the first step is always to admit that you have a problem. 2) Make amends. Make things right. Don't just punish yourself, that's not enough. You need to make the victim whole again, as best you can. 3) Take steps to keep yourself from performing that sin again. An ounce of prevention, and all. This is the part that speaks to becoming a better person. You slipped and made a mistake. We all do that. Get back up and learn from it. Change yourself such that it doesn't happen again. 4) Forgive those who have sinned against you. "... and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us." Basically, don't hold a grudge. The cycle of revenge is a terrible one, and accepting the extended olive branch is necessary to break that cycle. You need not forget. Do, indeed, take steps to keep yourself from being burned again. But you do need to forgive. Judaism is about building a better society. Christianity is about becoming a better person, a lot of which is personal responsibility. It's all about free will. You can ask God for strength to make the right decision, but making that decision is ultimately up to you. In the end, _you_ are responsible for your actions. No human is expected to be perfect, but they are expected to try. If a Christian does not take personal responsibility, they have missed the entire point. I'm not saying you're wrong here. A _lot_ of so-called Christians really aren't. That's true of any religion. But when you find the 10% (or whatever) of professed Christians that truly _are_ Christian, know that they aim to become the kind of person exemplified in Star Trek. Live long, and prosper, my friend.

Yeah, but that's how Riker will figure out that all of DS9 is actually an illusion.

@@sebfox2194 Riker did find out that all of Enterprise is an illusion, why not DS9 also?

That isn't how he figured it out, though. He even said that he could get used to the idea of it. It was the fact that his "wife" was a holodeck character that allowed him to figure it out.

Starfleet officers have always been openly racist towards Ferengi, from the very first time they show up in season 1 of TNG.

@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 In fairness, the attitude that Starfleet officers have towards Ferengi tends to be a reaction to Ferengi society and their actual disposition. Almost 100% of Ferengi match the stereotype that Starfleet expect of them.

the beatings will continue until morale improves

@ Neo. Your therapy is going to be two hours of combat training per week on the holodeck, and I'm prescribing you four mugs of blood wine, daily, until symptoms abate.

Geoffrey Forbes you know that wouldn’t be the worst therapy for a lot of folks ( assuming they threw up most of the blood ale before the alcohol hit their systems ). A sedentary lifestyle is definitely a contributor to some of our ailments.

I'm sure one would help in assertiveness training and helping people confront their problems.

@Ciaran Wilkinson Klingon counselor: stop feeling sorry for yourself, petaQ. It's your career, you want more rank and responsibility, do as Kahless would do: seize your opportunities and take what you want as a true warrior would. Glory to you and your house. Qapla

Data is a weapon, regardless of what people may think.

Not sure about protocol(s) in Starfleet or typical space operations, but Naval and typical maritime protocol is to address whomever is placed in charge of the vessel by whatever means or circumstances, as "Captain". For example, if the captain of a fishing vessel with say, 20 hands on board, were to fall seriously ill and have to be evac'd suddenly for medical care, whatever person either takes or is put in charge, is usually then addressed as "Captain" until they are no longer required to serve in that capacity. In another example, for purposes of crossing international borders on land, the chief operator of a land-based vehicle, such as a truck, who normally holds the title as merely "driver", takes on the title of "Master" of the vessel (Master is used since the vessel is not a ship, and giving the title of Captain would not apply). This denotes that the person designated as "Master" of said vessel (the truck) is the one responsible for the correct paperwork, and assumes the liabilities and consequences of any incorrect (or worse, misleading) entries that may not be properly documented on the provided paperwork. It's a title thing. Someone must be in charge, and be accountable for actions taken. So whether Hobson truly admires or likes Data or not, he's sort of admitting that Data is the person in charge, and addresses him as so, be it begrudgingly or otherwise.

All you did was use a whole bunch of words to agree with me. The very end of the episode - after Data saves the whole mission - is the FIRST time that Hobson ever addresses him as “captain.” He pointedly refuses to follow this tradition throughout the entire episode, always addressing Data as “sir” and never “Captain.” He does the bare minimum to remain subordinate and withholds a certain degree of respect until the very end.

​@@stanpatterson5033 I think they use 'commander' like that sometimes

@@gotham23us I can reduce it down: racist learns lesson, makes feeble, last-minute "amends"

@@youknowwhoyouare2269 it must be sad to live in a world where no personal growth ever counts for anything

He barely did his job as XO - continually arguing with Capt. Data and delaying the implementation of his orders. In the episode, he displayed insubordination.

What I appreciate is that even though he doesn't believe Data can captain the ship, rather than try to make him step down, he asks for a transfer. Rather than trying to attack Data's position, he chose to remove himself from the equation. He may not have agreed with the decision to appoint Data as captain, but he wasn't arrogant enough to try and usurp it.

He had no authority to do that anyway. The only thing he could do was ask for a transfer. He was an insubordinate bigot. At least he appears to realize that in the end.

@@Capt-Intrepidcalm your tits. You don't need to run around proclaiming that everyone with some sort of prejudice is a bigot. That in all likelihood makes you a "bigot" too. The episode gave a better morality lesson than you ever could. Life is about growth and they displayed growth in the character. The fuck else do you want?

@@sir_john_hammond did you ever finish the episode? He acts like an asshole and refuses to follow orders. He even directly ignores data.

Andriodist

Android is not a race. Actually, I wouldn't want an android as a captain. I'd sacrifice an android in a heartbeat to save my ship, no matter how much it pretends to be human. Detroit: Never Human.

@@RKroese Klingons - one of the examples he used - are definitely a race. It's also not nearly as clear-cut as you're implying that in that universe the Soong-type android should not be considered its own race, albeit a very small one.

@@jdotoz Android is not a living being, no matter how much it pretends to be. I do not feel for it.

Rewatch the episode The Measure of a Man in season two.

Knowing how this whole episode played out, all I can do is...LOL!

Data was the second sub plot. Their conflict wasn't that important

@@blankb.2277 Social justice is always important

heinzerbrew i mean to the plot. The only point Data was needed to move the plot along was to uncover the Romulans which would’ve happened with or without Hobson

@@blankb.2277 I understood your point and agree with you. However, don't you think the epioside really needed an anti-racism message? It was really important to show a white man being racist towards artificial life forms, yet again.

So much of it is so good. If you're curious, I highly suggest TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY. If you only pick one, do TNG.

You’d be amazed how wild Brent Spiner’s sense of humor really is.

start with TNG then DS9 VOY then ENT and THEN go watch the TOS it makes the films cringe

@@random_an0n That’s weird, I remember watching the movies first and then I watched TOS, and the movies were still quite good.

They're just following Article 2 of the Cole Protocol: "Destruction or capture of a shipboard AI is absolutely unacceptable."

@The Orange Ranger 1. Open an Administrator Command Prompt 2. Type "gpedit" and hit enter 3. Browse to Computer Configuration>Administrative Templates>Windows Components>Search 4. Double Click "Allow Cortana" 5. Set to "Disabled" Close enough.

...and keep this alternate version of Internet Explorer too, ya drone!

lol!

@@ceejayc6502 ow the edge.

@Waldo Rojas Thats why i said "i would like" if you read it well...

@Waldo Rojas I bet the people who upvoted your first reply are regretting it now.

Bravo, sir, Bravo!

But what would that help?

@@Tyrone-Ward It would help Commander Spot. Duh...

After that, please report to Enginering, where you will begin polishing the inside of the Jeffery tube with a brillo pad.

vindictive and petty commanders tend to get stabbed in the back at the first opportunity.

Wall to wall counseling.

Rates of murder-suicide would skyrocket if klingons gave psychological advice to people having trouble.

Imagine Worf in a tweed jacket

"I don't think I have the confidence to..." *(BAM)* "GROW A PAIR YOU WORTHLESS P'TAQ! FERENGI WHINE LESS THAN YOU!!!"

So, you are troubled because you sense your mate is seeing another? Easy solution. You must challenge this other in a fight to the death to restore your honor! If you die, well of course you no longer will have this problem...However, should you vanquish your foe, you must then anger your mate until she attacks you physically and by throwing things at you. During this rage, you must "duck alot...Oh I almost forgot, here is some of my favorite Klingon poetry. You must read it, during her attacks for victory to be assured!

Well he does. He's not saying Data isn't a good choice for an officer in general, but for specifically captain.

Except he's infinitely better choice for captain considering his mental power alone

@Abigail Slaughter I mean technically Data isn't even of the same biology and just built with humans in mind. So I wouldn't call it racism, at least not in the classic sense. In contrary to actual racism, which focuses on superficial differences, Data really does have a very different brain and mind.

Is that Lore or HK-47?

underrated comment of the month, Mazaroth.

Hopefully Lore, will a murderer, isn't QUITE that insane.

Heck yeah! How's that for recycling? ....Look, that human would take apart Data or Lore in a heartbeat, and you probably wouldn't even blink. This is just equal rights.

Deal with it!!!1!!

DS9 showed that Klingons understand and empathise with mental issues. The episode with Worf, Martok, Bashir, and Garak all in a Dominion prison together and Garak being the only one with the skills and knowledge to get them out but having to contend with his claustrophobia, eventually breaking because of it, then forcing himself back into the tight space to finish the job. He earned a lot of respect from Worf and Martok that day.

Just not the fake Klingons from star trek discovery... I'm going through season 2 and it's depleting my disbelief suspension reserves.

@@skynet4496 Quick! Divert power from non-essential functions (like vision and hearing during the show)!

@@JLee-rt6ve I cannot divert power from critical thinking functions and my senses. That's why I wasn't tricked by the panic-demic and it's ridiculousness 🤪

"The different species thing" ist not the point. Its because he is a KLINGON. At least i guess.

Pretty sure the XO was just showing his racism…

I don't need an essay to break down bigoted "thought" processes

@@youknowwhoyouare2269 and we need your comment?

@@True_Term incel

So would Ferengi...if they didn't charge so much

@@theguy6037 the ferengi could definitely provide a lot of counsel to most leaders and people in star trek, they're business men and business men know how get stuff done

He was just checking that no members of the species he just vilified were on the bridge.

DS9 is the best...

"I am programmed in multiple Captain techniques."

@@ziiofswe 😂😂😂😂😂

i've always been curious

@@One.Zero.One101 in deference to Slick Ric, Space Mountain has been replaced by Data. lol

@@ziiofswe Captain KIRK techniques!

A Nebula class starship is definitely not a "much smaller ship". Actually it's quite large. Normally it have almost as large crew as a Galaxy class. Although it was not in this case. But ofcourse it doesn't change Hobson's feeling, that android cannot be a good captain.

Nebula is the Galaxy successor. Same size, different configuration. Galaxy is nice and spread out, or in other words, a giant target no matter what profile. Nebula is compact, much smaller profile from sides, though large saucer section still presents good target from top and bottom.

The only thing the Nebula Class lacks is the neck that connect the saucer to the engineering section. Other than that, it has nearly the same amount of interior volume space as the Galaxy Class.

I believe that in the lore, the Nebula and Galaxy class vessels were developed concurrently, indeed one of the functions of the Nebula class vessels was to recover Galaxy class saucer sections that had been separated from their primary hulls and reattachment had been rendered impossible by damage or loss of the primary hull. Hence why the saucer sections were essentially identical (Note the appearance of a Nebula at the site of the loss of the Enterprise D, for example). The reasons for producing two similar designs are quite obvious - the Galaxy class was designed to be a long service, deep space exploration vessel, its duties required it to be a generalist - carrying vast cargo holds, massive amounts of scientific equipment and extra space for dignitaries and entertainment that the Nebula did not need for its role as a more specialist vessel. Instead the Nebula class was clearly following a design cue from the TOS Miranda class with underslung nacelles and a mission specific 'pod' that could be removed and replaced for different mission profiles. This meant that border patrols might be fitted with extra torpedo pods or long range scanning equipment while a vessel being sent to investigate an anomaly in a nearby nebula (ha!) or tertiary star system might be outfitted with a 'pod' designed specifically to gather the details expected to be found. The Nebula was not a successor - it just had a different use within Starfleet.

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he didn't trust him because he is racist? are you slow or something?

yeah data owned that racist coward

Worf was freaking out the entire time Keiko was in labor. "Now is not a good time!"

Denied , mic drop.

data should have kicked him in the head and thrown him in the brig tbh

And even if by some off chance Picard made a bad choice, that's not Hobson's to argue.

A similar situation occurred in the TOS episode The Galileo Seven, with several crew members being openly hostile to Spock's authority as first officer while stranded with him on a dangerous planet, despite Kirk's great trust and esteem for him.

The Picard never makes mistakes.

I thought relieved of duty means kick your ass out of Starfleet with dishonors? If I'm being autistic again then I'm getting the guy really had no issue with androids, he had just been trying to get relieved of duty for some reason and figured racism towards the Captain would start a dialogue that would do it lol

to be fair, he hadnt done anything wrong in the initial request to be booted out, Data gave him the opportunity to either rise above his prejudice or not.

He asked to be transferred, not relieved. Being relieved for insubordination probably comes with a permanent reprimand that makes further advancement harder.

@@asdffdsa541 The report on Hobson's behaviour will wind up in his jacket. He may possibly one day get a command but it will be an insignificant assignment because promotions board officers are not likely to have confidence in an officer who couldn't do his damn job as an exec during a combat mission.

And yet Data was also willing to murder Captain Picard to save some robots. So... erm...

Not sure if you're aware of this but if we use your definition of 'robot' in that sentence, Data is a robot. Like he said in that episode. If he chooses to sacrifice himself to save Picard, that's his choice.

It wasn't Data risking himself, it was Data risking a human without that human's permission.

In exchange for three sentient machines, which are also probably alive. Did you watch the episode? Again, Data is a machine. If you can empathize with Data as life, then you can empathize with the exocomps.

@@darthkek1953 No he wasn't. He offered to sacrifice himself to save Picard. He just wasn't willing to sacrifice what he considered to be another intelligent lifeform without its consent.

@Manek Iridius Well, I wouldn't have gone on a tirade. A tirade implies I would have yelled it at him. I would have said it calmly, but in a very stern tone of voice. When chewing someone out use ice. Not fire. People don't respect your authority if you go on angry rants. The only people in the military who get away with ranting are drill sergeants, and that's because they perform a different duty than commanding troops in the field. If they were assigned to field command they wouldn't behave in the same way. Also, seriously, with a crisis going on this man does not have the luxury of turning down a vital assignment just because he's got personal problems with his superior officer. In a crisis you buckle down and do what you have to do. Furthermore, there is nothing unprofessional about reprimanding a person for bigotry. No matter how "civil" he is about it his behavior is still unacceptable in his line of work. Whether you're bigoted against a race, gender, religion, societal class, nationality, or sexuality you'd better leave that behind you when you join a uniformed service. There are no white people or black people in the army. Only green people.

@Manek Iridius While formal, I wouldn't quite say his request was professional. But I guess you needed to use that word to then compare and say "unprofessional."

more human how?

I have no idea what you're talking about

@@Daiyuki117 same here, I read it twice and still don't know what he was trying to say.

There the trope of the XO and Captain first meeting. The XO did have a concerns. I would like it more isolated and better worded. Other than a minor hiccup, which they thjey both help cause, they work well together.

The new shows feel like rich kids jerking themselves off, and given some of Roddenberry and Berman's proclivities that is saying a LOT.

It's also not about exploring and making discoveries about our own humanity

@@BlackangelKatakuri tng was an american propaganda show

Yeah that was pretty bad writing IMO.

The whole point of that was to show that Data's thinking is extremely different to that of a human's. He thinks deductively with complete logic. The Chinese finger puzzle requires lateral, counter-intuitive thinking. He could obviously have easily torn the thing apart, but he was attempting to solve the problem, not just free himself. They were attempting to demonstrate that he could solve huge scientific and mathematical problems in his head with far greater speed and efficiency than a human, but lacks the creative capability humans have.

@@NoJusticeNoPeace Intriguing.

@@NoJusticeNoPeace 'He thinks deductively with complete logic' Mmmm.... Logic. Data has shown he already has the knowledge required to solve the puzzle with deductive logic. With the experience of a handshake as a puzzle, he learned that too much force or speed fails, but just the right amount of speed and force makes a good handshake. The same is with the finger trap. Pull too hard/fast then you fail. Pull slowly/gently and success. So this scene was a farce.