*Don’t read my name……..* . .

??? I guess just speaking general knowledge/common sense is DESTORYING people Yall turn things into stuff it's not

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And he's 100% right too. Cause you're alot more likely to end up in a lasting relationship since they will actually be compatible unlike when you just go chasing and take anyone that'll take you sorta thing.

​@@Linkman8912 Own Tate Any% speedrun

The butterflies are gonna do what to me???!!?

Well said!

Great saying

​@@Pandainapandasuitcom to you and in waves😅😅😅

So, they'll leave when the garden is off season or when it needs tending to?

Exactly. I also like that he mentions that people on video games and chat rooms because there's undoubtedly someone who watches Thor that might have a fear of social interaction, so they find it easier to be themselves in a video game or online.

Pretty much no matter what anyone might say, someone on Earth hasn't heard it before. The mistake is getting us all together on social media and then pretending like everyone's heard it all.

@@MackZZilla And the people who stick to video games or online chat rooms because Thor told them they can find a partner there are 99% less likely to find a partner than anyone doing things IRL. Just because a couple who met in a video game got married once does not mean it's in any way statistically or practically comparable to other forms of meeting people. That point was overly sugar-coated. The real advice behind "get out and do things you find fun" is that you actually need to do things where you're likely to meet people in your age range of the target sex/gender. If you don't find those things fun, you have to do them anyway, or "learn how to find them fun" if you want to be optimistic about how it works.

@@NerdOnTheStreet Actually, statistically more than half of couples these days meet online. In the US, the figure was something like 65% of all couples (that includes online dating, forums, games etc). Thinking meeting someone online is less likely than doing stuff IRL is such a boomer take at this point. It's about compatibility. If your hobby you enjoy is crocheting or gaming, you're not going to necessarily be more likely to meet someone going out and doing stuff you don't actually like - what, so you could meet someone who likes something you actually have no interest in? That's going to go down like a lead balloon. Not to mention as Thor said if you're there just to meet someone, it's incredibly obvious and reeks of desperation. Another thing to consider is that a lot of people might be kind of shy or awkward in person, but are far more sociable and relaxed on simply voice chat. I met my own fiancee of 5 years in an online game and because we're both in that space, most of our friend group who are now married or in a long term relationship met each other that way. And yes I understand that personal experience doesn't equate to statistical significance, but the point is you get to know someone a lot better when they can just be themselves and they're not an anxious wreck because they're doing something they don't want to do and have difficulty meeting new people IRL.

@@Futu06 Statistics also show that ~half of U.S. marriages end in divorce, so that figure's not super impressive (especially if it includes dating apps, which are massively broken and only getting worse). I'm not a "boomer," I'm 25 years old. My own "personal experience" with online games is that most of the time there's not even an active voice chat (if there is one at all), and you're typically cycled out between sets of entirely different players every game. I don't actually consider myself a "gamer" since I don't play very often (it feels like a waste of time unless I'm with other people), but I do play sometimes, and it's alien to me how people could form any sort of meaningful rapport via that medium, let alone a relationship. Many safety features and codes of conduct also seem specifically engineered to prevent breaking through that ephemeral, per-round level of interaction. Did you, your fiance, and the rest of your actively dating friend group all meet each other _entirely_ online? Did they all just happen to be located within a physically accessible area? Or did you happen to know some of them in person first, and gaming was a way to _stay_ connected? With regards to "lead balloons," I _hate_ running, I don't enjoy board games that much, and I don't really care about script reading, but I can meet _way_ more women (and people in general) doing any of those things than sitting in front of a screen for hours (still not many, but infinitely greater than zero). Do you think a relationship with someone you met running is going to be based entirely around running for eternity? The best time to meet partners is during school, specifically because that's when you're around other people of your own age _without_ having to come up with a reason why (and because expectations haven't yet risen to the level of "they'd better like all the same things I do"). Hobbies come and go all the time; they don't have to be your personality. And being "incredibly obvious and reeking of desperation" has lots to do with how you present yourself and very little to do with your actual intentions. I can spot insecure people from a mile away when they're dropping self-deprecating jokes about how they're single all the time-- or, conversely, when they talk about how happy and secure they are to be single all the time, while still falling over themselves to make conversation with any woman that walks into the room. Just because you're lonely and doing things to meet people doesn't mean you have to act that way. Again, it's just less cushy to explain that-- both because it's rude to point out to people when they're being cringe, and because it's legitimately unfortunate that advertising interest is seen as a negative factor. It's much easier and more well-received to just say "do what you like, and you might (or might not) meet someone."

*Don’t read my name……..* . .

Don't you think its unjust though? Imagine a situation where there are two men. One of these men is literally dying of thirst. I mean he's wasting away, you can see it clearly. He needs water or he will die soon. The other man, meanwhile, is sitting comfortably in a nice pool of cool, fresh water surrounded by trees and plants. The man right next to him is dying of thirst, but the dying man is not allowed to drink the fresh water that could save his life because the water is owned by a group of people who like the man currently resting in it and for no apparent or justifiable reason, hate the man who is dying of thirst. This is unjust, yet it is how our society functions when it comes to mate-pairing. The research out there (from what few sources haven't been ideologically captured) shows that prolonged denial of sexual and emotional intimacy, in general but especially in men, leads to increased emotional and mental instability, increased risk of serious cognitive dysfunction, greatly reduced sense of contentment and wellbeing, and a drastically increased propensity for violence and actual misanthropy. Our society claims to be oh-so-empathic to the weak and vulnerable, yet when men who are actually weak and vulnerable due to female cruelty and hypergamy ask for help, they are mocked, mistreated, ignored, gaslit, disregarded, and branded as threats to women's safety merely for existing.

You are clearly a perpetual victim.

​@@StarboyXL9unfortunately life is not fair, but its the same for men if they see a a girl acting very desperate. The good news is, the faster you get over yourself, the faster you will bounce back.

@@Ge0rge_0rwell Hello foid, I see you.

Big W

*Don’t read my name……..* . .

I met my girlfriend in League of Legends

W W W

Trust me bro 💀💀💀

Don't forget the cursed knowledge he and chat like to exchange.

Or he's saying "you can eat my whole ass" to some character in a video game, and I'm here for it

Or ruining your perception of life by figuring out that & is a stick figure dragging its ass.....

a literal god

@@yevgeniykhakhaev9788 thanks for the reminder, I had almost managed to forget this one

Translation: This is great because even though it's bad advice, it's good advice for something different than what it's supposedly about.

@@NerdOnTheStreet - How does that make it bad advice? Just because it has positive side effects regardless of whether or not you're successful doesn't mean it's bad advice. There is no "method" that's 100% successful. Even if it's 90% successful, that's still 10% of failures, and 90% is absurdly high. Those 10% would still be better served by doing it this way where they'd incidentally make other friends than the method of being a toxic bitter asshole who refuses introspection. That way won't work for dating, and also has the side effect of pushing friends away from you for being a garbage person to hang out with in general.

@@KingBobXVI The point of advice is to advise on how to do something/get somewhere/etc. If the advice doesn't actually increase your chances of success, then it's bad advice. Consider this: I want advice on how to better manage floor space in my living room. A KZfaqr says, "paint your walls blue. Even though you might not have a better-managed floor, at least you'll have pretty blue walls." That advice is bad because it doesn't answer the question I asked, and it instead gives me an unsolicited prescription about something else. More broadly telling people not to be "toxic bitter assholes" is slightly more sound advice, although if you're going to call people who have an issue with the practicality of some advice "toxic bitter assholes," I have to wonder how positive of a person you really are yourself. (What you're really doing is projecting a negative idea of a person onto anyone who's single against their desire, which lets you both bolster confidence in your non-working advice and avoid considering larger societal reasons why people might not be able to find partners when it should statistically be easier than ever.)

Bro it really isn't that deep. ​@@NerdOnTheStreet

@@pinkdrink6535 Don't read it then, bro.

Thor gets me stoked on life. I don't know how to put my finger on it, but he is the truth. Not many creators out there are doing anything like him.

He didn't go looking to be the wholesome channel. He just is doing what he loves. .... :P

@@master1442p what are you defining as a "problem"? Being single? Cause if that's the case, if you view being single as a problem, that's the desperation he was talking about. If you think someone joining you in life is a "fix" for your "problem" then you're missing the message and point. You don't find someone by making that your goal. You find someone by making connections, connections based off of mutual interests and personalities. Let me ask you this, do you have a close friend? A best friend? If so, did you go searching for someone to be your best friend? Think on that.

@@master1442p being single isn’t a problem, relationships are built on compatibility, respect, and communication. You won’t find that chasing after people, you find it by fostering a community and being a respectful person.

I think he woke up every day and did that

His take on TikTok being forced to sell is flat out incorrect. It's his only "bad" opinion I am aware of. But then, he has no experience in targeted behavioral analytics, so he isn't fully aware of how devastating and dangerous it can be. It is an extraordinarily powerful method of radicalizing people to become hateful and encourage them to commit acts of violence against a society or segments of society. A hostile foreign government having that power over our populace is unacceptable. It is also unacceptable for China to have direct access to GPS data which exposes who works in federal buildings, courthouses, and infrastructure. edit: I responded, but it is not showing up. Very suspicious it's not showing up. Cyberdemon's response was full of logical fallacies and I explained why. If someone is invoking the "no politics rule". First, that's for Discord and live stream chatrooms. Second, this is not politics. Politics involves politicians and elections. There is no politician or election here. This is foreign affairs or foreign relations subject. No rule banning foreign affairs or foreign relations talk.

@@potato9832no one is 100% but he’s closer than anyone I’ve ever seen 😆. My understanding of his TikTok take that TikTok being forced to sell is not ideal simply because we trade one governments snooping for anothers. clearly the USA in control is a lesser of two evils but he’s saying that is also wrong for reasons, which yea I can see. I’m just not that distrustful of all things government when it comes to the US or governments in general. but you have to really get into the weeds if we start talking about government, so it’s easier to just be on guard when it comes to moves any government makes. All that said, yea I’d rather have TikTok not be a national security threat but being forced to sell still has some stink on it at a base level.

@@potato9832 Your viewpoint would be valid had the govt. not publicly admitted that they're banning it specifically because they couldn't control the Isntreal-Palestine war narrative.

​ @cyberdemon1702 USA is not in control of private corporations. In China, corporations are always controlled by government. In USA, corporations are regulated by state laws allowing for submitting articles of formation and licensing. The federal government regulates imports, exports, and taxation. There is NO control of the operations by state or federal government. There is a universe of difference between control and regulate. Justifying China's ability to manipulate and social engineer Americans by invoking "USA spies too" is a bad argument. For one, it's a tu quoque fallacy. Two, USA is not hostile to itself or Americans. China is hostile to USA and Americans. (A false equivalency fallacy.) Third, this is not about spying. It's about the ability to manipulate. (A red herring fallacy.) There is no stink about being forced to sell. This is not a free speech violation. Corporations don't get free speech let alone a foreign corporation; let alone a foreign corporation controlled by a hostile foreign government. This is not overreach, because the federal government places embargos and import/export restrictions on a long list of products and services. It is 100% within the purview of the US government to regulate harmful products and services entering or operating within the US edit: Removed the "attitude".

@@cyberdemon1702 I responded, but it is not showing up. If this is censorship, that's really, really bad.

Youre a female and therefore your life is on easymode. No man has an easy life as average woman does. Your life experience in dating is equal to that of a male movie star.

Hey, good for you. And always. Always. Keep up the goblin nonsense. Have a good day :)

ALPHA isn't a thing, at all, not even in wolves like those losers will claim the dude who did the "study that proves that they do have alpha behavior" was done in captivity, when a colleague of the man doing it mentioned this afterward, he redid it in nature to verify, finding that in fact no, in nature that behavior is not exhibited, turns out it's just captivity, you put a bunch of animals in an area with limited resources and a fixed influx and yes a hierarchy will form quite easily, he's been trying to disprove it ever since :(

That's what being full-release lets you do💪

He didn't destroy any of Tate's arguments lol He simply disagreed. Not to say Tate's arguments are hard to destroy. If I sat down with him, it'd be an easy win. He'd resort to name-calling and talking down to me. That's all he can do. Dude doesn't have an ounce of intelligence or logic.

Focus on improving yourself and don't go chasing women 🤔

@@bradleyamos9519 Is the alpha male hobby just about making superficial gains like money or cars, then?

*Don’t read my name……..* . .

he's clearly been thru some shit

@@DontReadMyProfilePicture102 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Experience can take you a long way. I'm in that middle ground at 35, and I can see how little I could see at 25, and how much further there is to go by 45 and entering the big strides of life (kids becoming people, major career progression, etc). Experience makes all the difference (though a few never use it to learn/grow sadly)

This is actually pretty trash advice. On it's surface, "don't be desperate" isn't wrong, but that's not exactly useful. Telling a mostly male audience to take up pool or MMORPGs to meet women is objectively bad advice. If you struggle to date trying to meet women at the local game store, the pool hall, or any other place that is mostly men isn't going to work. If you're not having luck getting dates going to a space with four men per woman is going to virtually guarantee you aren't even close to being the most desirable man there. If you want to give actual advice instead of servicing your own vanity you need to be honest. Men that can't get dates simply are not up to women's standards and need to improve themselves before trying to find someone. I get that Andrew Tate's guru scam purporting to teach men how to convince women to do live camming for them isn't solid dating advice, but this isn't any more realistic and it's not great for women either. Frankly, this advice is going to upset more women even if it's not as harmful. Women do not want unattractive men hassling. The fastest way to get kicked out of a social group is to be an unattractive man that hits on the women in the group. Women are just as shallow as men if not more so. I'm not going to go into all of the details, but if you're overweight, don't dress well, and don't have a solid career women aren't going to be interested even if you share similar interests. That's how you end up being friends with a bunch of women that aren't attracted to you. That's great if you want to have a front row seat to girls you like getting with other men, but not so wonderful if you value your sanity. It's not misogyny to tell men that they need to be what women want if they want to date. You want a girlfriend? Put on some muscle, get down to a maximum 15% bodyfat, dress better, get a respectable job that can provide for a family. Then you should start expanding your social circle looking for women.

The same happened to me and my wife. We're together more than 10 years already

For me, it feels extremely hard to just meet people. I go out and play pool with some friends, but we never interact with anyone else. And it feels bad. I've recently created a discord server, and the people I've met are awesome, but we might get one new regular member every few weeks.

The secret is to do the things alone. If you are with friends than you wouldn't give "new" people much attention. I met my wife at a party where I could have spent the whole night just talking with friends but instead I socialized and found a connection with her. Going out with friends is rarely a good chance for meeting new people unless it's a party or otherwise a mixing activity such as dancing.

@@marcthomas6437 Nobody talks to someone who's alone. Being with a group is a prerequisite for anyone to think about talking to you, because if you're not, then it means something must be wrong with you that you don't have any friends to be with. That's at least how it is in some US cities.

People like me that dont naturally make connections can easily be seen as dis genuine, im not keen on body language and im sure i can be off putting cause im usually honest to a fault. I live in a well populated and growing area and havent had much luck, when i do i tend to attract the wrong kindof people as well. Idk im at the point where im ok not being ok if that makes sense. It sucks especially if you are in fact high functioning (autistic) because most others have expectations that you think like non autistic individual. Definitely find a doctor that actually studies it and get their diagnosis if you suspect it. Best advice I can offer is trying the "shotgun method" of meeting people in a more populated area, this way if you dont gel with someone, its not a big deal.

You should try to test for adhd or autism. If you do indeed have any disorders, I think its healthy to find out asap. (I have adhd and finally being diagnosed changed my life for the better) I know a lot of people with adhd and autism tend to have more difficulties holding long lasting relationships.

I could see all of those hobbies as situations where talking to each other as yourselves would be rare, especially if you are extremely introverted. For Pathfinder, if you aren't/weren't meeting with the group an hour before to eat then try that. Debate and writing can end up exclusively about the work of you let it.

@@pinkdrink6535 I did get tested for autism, and the psychiatrist told me I could go around saying I was "recently diagnosed with autism", but that they wouldn't formally, paperwork diagnose me. I got the impression the more formal diagnosis was for accessing government support, job assistance, etc., which I don't need anyway. I'm fine in structured environments like the workplace; it's just free-form social interaction I have trouble with.

@@Virtuous_Rogue that sounds very likely. With Pathfinder, I've felt like it can be kind of a placebo social interaction - you interact in-character, and it feels real at the time, but when you leave the game table it has no lasting impact. Meeting for food is a good suggestion. My current RPG group also tends to chat a bit before and after games, which does help I think.

Wait so if I naturally don’t go out and do things I’m just kinda doomed to that for eternity? That’s rough.

Well, you can just go out and try things, maybe something will stick. No one is born with a hobby, everyone had to start at some point. That said, I get it, being a boring person myself. Time and money are also a constraint . It can get rough.

​@@steellamasterthen when you decide to go do things you enjoy there's no women around anyways. Not my preference that there's no women into the things I'm into to the point they go to meetups. Autism is a curse.

@@steellamaster I'd say it depends on what you want from the other person. Like how do you envision a relationship and with who? Is it going out and having fun, or both of you staying in your own respective houses and communicating online? Because either one of those choices have their own respective concessions: If the person likes to go out, you'll have to meet them at a middle ground; if the person likes to stay in, you'll have to be the one to take initiative because they'll probably think like yourself that they are doomed

​@@depressoespresso6522he'll have to be the one to take the initiative in either of those scenarios unless others see him as valuable enough to put the effort into taking the initiative with themselves.

Just don't forget your towel

42!!

If you can, also get yourself a Babel fish to translate women-speak

Also note: 42 is the character code for *. * is a wildcard,, it can mean anything. Thus myself and others like to think 42 was Adam's way of saying the answer to life, the universe and everything...is whatever you want it to be. #SatreFTW #PhilosophyWithThor

wait a minute-he's using a MOUSE?!

@@davidshi451 not really , he has a scroll ball mouse

Maybe your sensitivity is too high. Whenever I handwrite something with a mouse (rarely) or draw with the mouse (occasionally) I always turn my sensitivity down

..You know the term "practice makes perfect"..?

Dude probably has an electronic sketch pad to accomplish the writing stuff.

Hell yeah

wow, Bumble? Bumble is as much cancer as Tinder. In some countries, you cant even set area range. It tells you that there arent any people nearby, unless you drive 15+km away, then suddenly there are people in the zone you have been in. German and Swiss girls use it mainly as promoting their Instagrams, They also do not understand, that when matched, THEY have to write something first. And even if they do, they usually write just "hi/hello" or a single dot. Just like tinder, premium, which allows you as a man to have some interaction, costs depending on your age. Yes, there is age discrimination in states outside of USA. And as a male, you will have to pay more (my sister was asked for half of the price it tries to ask from me).

I've always thought of bumble. Can you elaborate on your experience with it, prior to meeting your spouse? What was the interaction like? The responsiveness? Any bots? And is it for "Asians" as all of their ads suggest? Sorry for the questions in advance.

@@BAPK1602 Dating apps are for everyone. By asking if they're for Asians, I'm sorry to tell you, but you're a bit racist (perhaps unintentionally) and nobody likes that 😬.

People asking for their boundaries to be respected just sounds like a red flag to me 😐. It's such an obvious thing to want in a relationship that it sounds weird when people praise others for it. It's like "I don't gaslight my partner and he doesn't gaslight me." It'd be weird if either partner did 🧐. It's the same thing with boundaries 🤷‍♂️.

Now THAT is a story to tell the grandkids, followed by telling them about D&D and getting them into a campaign

@@tiagobelo4965 and then sell them

Online or in person?

Goddamn rights you did! That's how it's done, son! I've told my daughter a bunch of times, "If you aren't sure a boy would want to hang out with you, ask if he wants to play D&D. I'll make sure you got what you need for it to be fun." D&D is like Soylent Green! It's people! 🤣🤣

Selling her friends 🤨? What does that mean?

It great to have stuff in common from the start but in the end you don't marry someone for their hobby, you marry the person you see you future with, if you two love each other and willing to work together to keep the love going, you are good. Maybe trying to keep the love going is something you can have in common. But I know what you talking about too much, I'm my community it not so bizarre to marry young so you can find alot of young women/man who desperate to get married and to meet a partner,

If you're alone you have so much freedom to go do what YOU want to do. Go find your happiness without a relationship and someone will see that and want to be a part of it. Source: married >10 years

@@j0a3k It must be so easy to give this kind of advice on not seeking out a relationship when you're already married.

Cute story, I hope you two keep getting along well!

i was in a bookstore, buying books and tabletop games, when the girl at the checkout asked me if i wanna join their gamenight they do at certain place at certain hour. I told her i can't, because next day i'm leaving again, since i live 1000km away and go there only for vacation few times a year... Thats how it ended.

​@GhostAeonWolf you can still keep in touch. talk online. you never know how things can end up.

@@MauiWowieOwie I met my girlfriend online, we would talk about things we shared an interest in and started catching feelings... I must admit its tough being in a long distance thing (I found out she's in Ukraine, while I'm central USA), but she's really precious to me and I think loving her is worth it.

@Armament0fJustice congrats on finding love man. Hope you two can get together in person in the near future!

LMAO! I noticed that too.

I think it's cuz he's actually trying for once instead of just writing it quickly for illustrative purposes

Pat on your back! Having the courage to do that puts you ahead of a lot of people.

Worst case scenario, you had a good time.

I still remember that feeling mate. I was out of a 7 years abusive relationship. I felt like garbage. Started dating again after a few months and it felt really awkward but I kept going. Soon after I met a fantastic girl and we clicked on tje first date. Fast forward today, we've been together for 10 years. married for 7 and we have a 6 years old son. My advice, keep going forward friend. Like Thor said in this video, try to have fun and take the positive from this dating experience. Baby steps. Hope everything turns alright for you!

Good stuff mate

⁠@@Deceneu66thanks. I’m thankful that my reason for being out of the game wasn’t something that hard, and I’m sorry you went through all that. I’m just really bad with women in person. I can’t pick up on signals. So dating apps have been great for me because it takes the guess work out of figuring out if a woman is interested. I’m so glad you found someone and that it’s going so well! That’s incredible and I’m happy for you. Hoping to do the same before too long.

Some of the best relationships I’ve witnessed never started out as a relationship. Just two friends supporting eachother.

It's funny how 99% of the comments praising the video would disagree with you, because if you're a good part of the other person's life, it means they don't "love themselves enough."

It's also a psychological thing, women participate in mate poaching more than men. It's because the man has already been vetted by another woman.

*Don’t read my name……..* . .

Yeah, that's part of it. But another part is women liking men they know are valuable. And the best way to know if a man is valuable is if he has the interest of other women. Being in a relationship naturally leads to that.

That is NOT what it is God you people are so naive it’s hilarious. ( women like men other women like. They literally chase down married men)

​@@angelodecock6280 that implies that women are instinctively homewreckers, which I'm pretty sure is not the case. I'm pretty sure most women won't make advances on you after they know you're taken. I swear, every time someone talks about dating on KZfaq 50 guys come in with the weirdest takes on women.

At this point, we don't need to say the Tate brothers are "alleged" rapists and traffickers. Those two are truthfully subhuman garbage.

Huh, I was 25 yesterday and I’ve never had the urge to follow that guy. No judgement, well done for recognising the negative mindset and coming out better for it, but what led you to follow him in the first place? Did he just pop up in your videos and he sorta made sense to you?

​@@dylanclarke9497Tate is doing what most of these (usually rightwing) grifters do. They give you an extremely simple reason why it's not your fault that you are single/lonely/unhappy. "It's the womens/foreigners/jews/gays/trans' fault" Because it's what you subconciously want to hear and there are thousands of other people like you agreeing with him, you get roped in. And when you start behaving like Tate around other people, of course they reject you (especially women), which makes you fall for his lies even more.

@@dylanclarke9497 charisma and logical fallacies. Using logic at first to prove a point but that point goes onto something completely illogical but because he uses logic at first you can almost fall for it. That’s why I think young guys fall for his crap

Cos you didn't get his point, and it's fine. He won't be 100% right in everything, but one thing he knows for sure is a hoeflation, where you have mid girls chasing top dudes😂 if you think he wrong about that ask yourself why you was single all thouse years and why girls rejected you or kept you in friends zone 🫡😆

Exactly, that's why we have highest rates of single people in history, lowest birthrates ever and almost non-existent marriage rates. You people are speaking out of your ass and just like him, nothing is backed up by data.

People who are introverted: *my worst nightmare*

. . . why? You're just people. People hang out. Sometimes they say awkward shit. It doesn't stop you from speaking, does it? Either way, to mix that with Thor's point: have you considered not dating or asking out these people, and instead just chilling with them, allowing whatever is to happen do so naturally?

This sounds like good advice. Now I just need to work out what I look for in a partner ...

@@aracheldra8763 -Girl (Optional) -Alive (Optional) -Goblin

Until they get bored of pretending they don't judge or understand it.

I get what you’re saying but I met my partner on an online mobile game and we’re both antisocial af. Not sure what your hobbies are but you can definitely still meet someone!

@@dylanclarke9497 Oh dont mind me, I'm not too worried on that front =P I'm a hobby smith, but I also like to dabble in a bunch of other crafts, lots of stuff u can make that people can use with that.

@@dylanclarke9497 Just because you can doesn't mean you're likely to. The unspoken other side to the "get hobbies" advice is "...that your ideal partner would enjoy" at the end. You're just relying on luck otherwise, and luck isn't real.

@@NerdOnTheStreet you can always look at it the other way and see that just because you can’t now doesn’t mean you won’t. Not sure what being negative about it will do for you but defo won’t help you find anyone.

How many people, hearing this kind of advice, are going to go out and get into hobbies they don't actually care about while trying to delude themselves into thinking they "love themselves" when it's really all just a long-term act to find a partner? Isn't it the same thing?

It's ironic isn't it. The only way to go is to let go... it's easy to grasp, but difficult to follow. The world advises the diametrically opposite thing across all areas.

You can be as charismatic and as natural as you want but regardless of what you do if there are physically no women around to see you doing things it doesn't matter how little you care about meeting someone.

There's no women into my hobbies or at least none into any of them enough to get involved in the communities. I've had therapists tell me to drop hobbies and pick up ones I don't enjoy as much just to meet people. Reality is complicated, sometimes you have to go the disingenuous route.

@@Stopaskingwhyandjustreadit What hobbies do you have that are so obscure you've never found women interested in them? I have female friends interested in casual gaming and competitive gaming. In war-hammer. In sci-fi/fantasy novels. In many anime/manga/LNs. In Engineering and Programming. In Wood-Working and Black-Smiting. In Digital and Traditional Painting. And in Martial Arts (mostly HEMA). These a some what broad categories in the end. And these were friends (not people I dated). But still, women I grew close to as I had fun trying out a range of hobbies. You don't have any broad hobbies that would overlap with a lot of people. The only of my interests that I've not seen any woman engage with, is Linguistics and Con-Langing. But Dublin is pretty small, so rolling the dice doesn't go super well here.

​@@handsoapincmy biggest hobbies over the last 10 years have been Yu-Gi-Oh (game stores don't have women in attendance unless it's for MtG which I don't enjoy), Fighting games (might be different in your community but I've never so much as seen a woman at an event that was there by choice) and now Beyblade (currently in a lead organiser position, secured multiple sponsors for our biggest event yet leading up to X's release). I was into ballroom dancing for a good while too as I competed in highschool but I'm not really interested in women 20+ years older than me. I'm on the spectrum.

​@@Stopaskingwhyandjustreaditwhat kind of disturbing things are you into?

​@@godlygamer911I posted a reply to the other guy 10 minutes ago but I guess my experience is invalid

Yep, as with most advice, moderation is key and the truth is actually somewhere in the middle. Doing whatever you want without a care won't get you a relationship, nor will seeking one out with no other goals or interests. You need to do both while balancing them against each other (i.e. choosing hobbies that are _likely_ to let you meet someone, and aiming to meet someone who's interested in at least _some_ of your hobbies.)

Instructions unclear: I no longer hate myself enough to force myself to try different hobbies that women are interested in just to have a chance of meeting one instead of doing what I actually want to do which has zero interest from women (not my preference but theirs).

Ok but when the source of that uncomfortability is from a lack of relationships, you’re screwed

@@theonlyjoe_ Which is when you need to unlearn the lie that relationships are what define your value.

@@ecyor0 I mean they don’t fully define it but they definitely play a part. If you can’t reproduce or if you don’t have someone to love, you won’t be as complete a person as someone who at least has the ability to have those things should they decide they want them.

It's not like you can't take steps to make it more likely at the same time, though. You can cast your line for as many years as you want but you'll never catch anything if there's nothing there to catch. I don't really like the way this advice is usually phrased, because it's telling people they don't need to be an active participant in the process in order to find somebody. No, you do, you just can't let it be the only reason you interact with anybody.

​@@XIIchiron78Yeah, you're right. You should of course work on yourself, and try to improve what you're offering. But what this advice is saying, is that don't try and force it to happen, because desperation is very unflattering. If you're approached and turn out to be a slob or unkind, then you need to work on your personality (try to realize that people want to be treated how you want to be treated). If you're not approached, work on your appearance (work out, dress well, take care of your hygiene). But don't actively pursuit people all the time, of course you can ask someone out occasionally, but don't let it seem like you NEED it. I've hardly been single since I was 12, and I've never had to ask anyone out, or really done anything special to achieve that. I just treat people with respect and kindness.

@@Phelixc The fact that you've "hardly been single since you were 12 and have never had to ask anyone out" makes you almost unqualified to offer advice to people who don't have the same charisma/luck/whatever you credit, imo. You're just listing off things you assume are wrong with people who are single and looking.

@@NerdOnTheStreet I'm not great looking, and I'm not charismatic. And anyone who knows me, would tell you I'm certainly not lucky. What I do possess of skills though, is a calm demeanor and good listening skills which makes women comfortable around me. The fact that I'm not trying to get into their pants at any opportunity is simply enough to lower their guard (and they do have their guard up at all times usually, because of desperate men). In high school I used to be surrounded by girls every recess, because they felt comfortable enough to talk about everything with me. I'd be in a sofa with about ten to fifteen girls, just talking about relationships and day to day life. Most never showed an interest in me romantically, but others liked me for the abilities I had. Just be confident in the fact that what skills you possess, will be something a woman will find attractive. For all the female friends I've had and do have, I've learned this: there is no secret skill or trait that is one sure way to get them interested, every woman has their own preferences. But there is one surefire way to make them shy away, and that is being a pest. Confidence is key, and to find confidence, you have to believe that what you're offering is enough (it very often is). I've heard women talk about wanting nerdy, lanky, short and stocky (not all at the same time necessarily, but you understand what I mean). All traits dating apps would have you believe is undesirable traits. Most of the women I know don't want to use dating apps, because they would be inundated with request from men wanting to get into their pants. Most want a meaningful relationship before the getting into their pants part. So the boring tip that most guys struggling to find a girl hates to hear, is what is being said here: be yourself, put yourself in a position where women can find you and just be respectful. If what you have been doing hasn't worked, broaden your horizon. Join new clubs inside your field of interest (or perhaps even in the fringes of your interests), get some new clothes (if you're bad at it, ask someone you trust for help in finding clothes that you look good in) and be vigilant about your hygiene. You are good enough for someone, you just have to show yourself to that someone.

Run naked through a wild field of tall grass?

Weed is lowkey cheap

@@Saint_Medusa It actually is. I spend like a quarter of what I used to spend on alcohol on weed up in Canada. XD

All the best fellow blazblue fan. The wheel of fate is always turning

*Massive* W for you being able and willing to recognize her boundaries, be a legit friend, and wait for her to come to you! :D Glad you two are happy together!

It's a sad state of affairs when doing what every single one of your ancestors managed to do is now essentially restricted to lottery winners.