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"Why aren't you cheesing" "Because I know how to play the game" Holy BASED datto

My elitist take is that not all loot should be earnable by all players if they aren’t good enough to earn it or aren’t willing to grind for it.

"Is Jez on my team? What is he running?" This is so real lmao, there's always that one friend with the jank loadout

“If the devs of my game never talked to me, ever…. That would infuriate me.” Datto discovering how the Witness and most Destiny villains feel about the Traveler.

I'm so sad Elitist Datto isn't Datto but with like I dunno an evil mustache. 2 sets of glasses just to show how fucking locked in he is

"Somehow, elitist Datto has returned."

Worst raid teammate I've ever had was an arc titan using lorely splendor (it does not work without solar). Doing deepstone, knew no roles, put himself on add clear immediately, then blamed everyone else when they died from ads. Double primary was a cherry on top. Edit: he also refused and insulted us when we asked him to get the tcrash cuirass from shaxx

Ill still stand by it, the comment at 28:50. Crown of Sorrow was THE best raid for new players. It was basically 3 groups of 2 the ENTIRE time. So I would be with my friend and just be like, "Mute EVERYONE but me. Ignore all the babble and yelling. I will hold your hand through this." And it worked every single time. I got 4 of my friends into raiding because of it.

22:28 The way I KNEW Jez was gonna catch a stray the moment machineguns were mentioned.

Saying PvE players have to grind comp is indeed a take. I don't think these pvp guys would want me in their teams lol

whenever I used to post LFGs on the bungie site, I would always end my requirements with the phrase "No Batteries Needed." It became quite a decent icebreaker for me and my team on a lot of occasions

Basing your game around the 1% was a hilarious slow motion decline for one game I played. It was a top down camera WoW-mechanic space game. 2012-present (and it's still ongoing) have been basically a 1% balancing act, and if you were not part of the 1% group, you basically had to do the destiny equivalent of solo GMs but it's actually a regular strike. Or you could just bot. They loved people who subscribed multiple accounts to auto-bot content. That solo GM-difficulty regular strike immediately became just a regular strike if you found anyone to play with you or just botted. The playerbase was so low that it was bot or log off. They made raids with that in mind. Imagine continuing to make DSC, Crota, KF, Vow, etc for 6 people when the average online playerbase was 2 people. They sniffed their own farts.

The ad clear thing is so based. As someone who hasn't REALLY done many raids, the ones I have done, I've always made it very clear I didn't know what I was doing besides a video I've watched on the raid. ..Just that its rare people WANT to help you, which is why I haven't done many raids.

Elitist take: most of the fan base have the most horrendous takes ever

Even if I’m a shy introverted person I find it more fun to learn I remember carrying friends with a competent team who’s more experienced than me but I remember playing teaching how to and whilst completing the encounters either I.e in dungeons or raids I remember my proudest moment as a shy quiet person myself I remember going “did you see that I did it I learned” and my friends in the team who’ve done it more than me went “yeah buddy I saw that! You did so good I’m so proud of you” I felt so happy I love when I also finally did my first legendary lost sector and I finally completed finished it by myself on my own even if I’m not a hardcore player I felt so good having done hard core content in games I play mostly because I feel good warm from knowing I learned it and practiced more to trying more stuff then helping people doing raids dungeons I’m very happy proud of myself I even have the same mindset with both Warframe and destiny I try to learn then I practice on my own time and I love getting genuine praise knowing people feel proud in a loving way when I learn pvp pve stuff and I get good at it decently with a good pace too so honestly I don’t like laziness I don’t like lazy people who just want to be rewarded more for purchasing things rather than dedicating time to wanting to learn how to play I love listening even if I do yes get yelled at or mocked shamed time to time I do still find players who carry me who are very sweet people who teach me how to play properly especially with raid mechanics Though my luck with finding kind players is major oof still I still cry getting shamed mocked kicked but I still try raids and dungeons teams even if I get scared time to time

"Is it good in legend onslaught" has become one of my favourite weapon metrics.

The ledges in the calus void room weren't ever bugged, you just jumped over them

If it was like a revoker and martyrs retribution instead of succession and forbearance literally nobody would’ve cared

root of nightmares day one got me feeling good at raiding and motivated to try them all. I used to be all about pvp but now raiding is what keeps me in the game

My main issue with event FOMO is not that it’s a limited time event, but instead just how much I need to play the event to get whatever it is. I usually unlock stuff at a slower pace than others, and it sucks to have done the event, to have been there, and not get the item.

Hot Take: Riven legit is not hard at all. You either stun and call out eyes or dps then shoot eyes, calling out one symbol for the lift is also not complicated.

Elitist Take: Pantheon is not for casual players. Pantheon is not for LFG, especially the last two weeks. You cannot join an lfg and ask to add clear. (This is similar to the master raid take in the vid). If you dont know everything, dont waste ppls time.

I agree on enjoying the artifact perks. I think their a really fun way to healthily change up the meta jn a non permanent way. On that note however, i would enjoy a bit more variety in terms of what they actually are buffing season over seaon. It feels like its been heavily weighted towards solar overall, with a few notable exceptions for the seasons that the light 3.0 subclasses dropped.

As for the last take, I couldn't agree more. When my clan does VOW, we do the third encounter as chaos; pick something up and do the job. It made it so much more fun and stressful and chaotic and everyone learns the mechanics of the room.

Regarding the Seasonal Artifact stuff around 21:30 ; I feel like the seasonal artifact was fine until specifically Season of the Wish. I have been running the same Solar builds for half a year at this point and I honestly cannot wait for the seasonal artifact to change. I don't even care whats in it as long as it isn't Strand and Solar. I am so sick of feeling forced to run Solar, which is saying a lot because Solar is generally speaking my favorite subclass on all three classes.

2:15 it's like buying a violin and expecting to play Paganini because you payed money for it

25:56 I brought this up a while ago on Reddit (and got yelled at for even suggesting it) but I think it would be neat if raid seals could be gilded. Doing the raid + the current smattering of triumphs should get you the base seal, but the gilded seal should require a flawless + maybe more crazy stuff. People would go crazy for a shiny title that shows how good they are compared to normal raiders. Unique cosmetics that show your skill are highly sought after. I just think this would be pretty neat to have.

It's okay to admit to not know what you're doing in a raid. Because he's MY elite take: If you're really so good at a raid, you can easily carry one or two newbies thru it.Teaching them and a whipe or two isn't that big of a deal and shouldn't take long if you're actually great at the raid.

I played with a guy who refused to switch off of omni deadfall tether on master crota and claimed it was meta. There are just too many ppl in the game who have giant egos on top of no clue what they’re doing.

The only gripe I have with garden tether is when you're building and either portal comes back or is going out and tether themselves to you while youre standing in the milk to build.

"vow needs everyone to know what to do" and then there is Rhulk which only needs 4 people to know what to do but effectively only 2.

The Pace of Sanctified Mind is what boss battles should strive to do (imo), from what i remember day 1. Everyone had their role to do in the chaos, there was no slacking.

Spire of stars (last and penultimate encounter) was one of the best raid fights ever made. We can say prestige mode was bad, (im looking at you prism), but a raid actually requiring cohesion and a tight dps check was so satisfying to see.

Okay but on the garden tether thing, my raid group of friends spent literally three hours mashing our heads against a wall trying to do a divinity puzzle only to discover a week later that having gunpowder gamble equipped on solar hunter does actually genuinely break the tether mechanic for some reason

I'll accept "git good" when you accept that you may be wrong about what constitutes "difficulty" as it relates to frustration. Because something is more frustrating, it doesn't mean it's truly more "difficult".

20:57 Bro that Frostbolt clip out of nowhere was foul but still the greatest callout I've heard.

My elitist take is that nearly everyone has the capability to play content like raids, grandmaster nightfalls, and dungeons, but they're unwilling to try to do it.

Wholesome ad read, didn’t even wanna skip it this time

The best raid encounters are the ones that force everyone to take on some role, even if small, e.g. Oryx, sanctified mind

I'll never get the pantheon stuff because i can't get my group together for even a single normal mode raid and it's totally okay. That title will be so cool to see on someone in the wild.

I have the opposite problem, that being no one is willing to teach me. I can only watch so many guides before they arent helpful. I need to DO the encounter. Also, Daddo was an awesome guest appearance in the ad section

Bro that random frost clip was pure gold 😂

With riven coming up in pantheon, my clan mates have been griping about needing to do it legit. Something ive been telling them is really fun and a unique challenge for years! (I beat it legit when it was still fresh in forsaken) And lo and behold, i convinced them to do a practice run. And They loved it and crushed it in a couple tries and now say they would rather do it legit than clip her toe nails. I am glad pantheon is normalizing this "hot take" that more challenging raid encounters and not cheesing is more fun.

Counterpoint for the Solo Dungeon take: The newer dungeon bosses are damage sponges and not in an interesting way. Even with Solo Operative, shit's tedious as fuck. At that point, getting a solo flawless isn't much about managing mechanics and doing damage, but more about how much your time is worth to you and how much a 15 point triumph means to you.

Elitist Datto is my favorite Destiny supervillain. Thats my commander o7

I love the "we interrupt your Elitist Datto for this ice cream truck" moment My only complaint about this 39:24 is that, whenever I run VOG, it should be a knockout or isn't random enough. Atheon always happens to pick or not pick the same people. The last time I ran VOG, I ALWAYS got teleported. The time before that, I NEVER got teleported.

The ad clear one is so true man. One of my biggest hates is when people call add clear before all the actual roles have been called, and when you ask ‘who’s gonna do what?’ and no one responds.

I, too, want to meet this "legendary" triple gl launcher users in my group.

"Why aren't you cheesing this right now?" _Cause I know how to play the game_ Giga ultimate 300% based. Unironically one of the best takes I've heard about the game

got an interesting story with garden tethers. This was back before even lightfall was announced so probably patched out by now. My group had gotten Sanctified really low so all we needed was one dps phase, one we got up to without issue and were about to start by tethering to the boss. However despite leading the tether to the boss perfectly the tether decided, rather than connect to the boss, to connect to the SHUT OFF tether node right next to the boss and rob us of that dps phase

LOL reason why raid seals no longer needs flawless is oblivious. They gotta sell those seal pins bro😂

i wanna learn, but im always nervous to ask, scared of annoying people.

I'm not a big elitists by any means, but one thing I'll say is a lot of the player base don't know what they want with this game. Even myself. Each and every one of us could have a genie that could make our ideal version of destiny, give it a mile long list of things we want and within a week of playing our new perfect destiny, be asking for new things, changes, revisions and so on. Even things that a lot of people agree on, give it a few hours, a few days, maybe a few weeks and we want something new. We should definitely hold the game to a standard but realise, we'll be wanting forever, even if every time we got exactly what we want, we'd want more or different stuff.

Who'da thought the way to get me to not skip the ad segment was for Datto to show a bunch of fun pictures of his dad during it.

No Datto. The double auto Heir Apparent is for doing meme raids with your friends. 😂

I think that was the best manscaped ad I've ever seen, Datto just roasting his dad for more than a minute straight

Bit of an off topic but that ad with Datto Showing pictures of him with his Dad is so wholesome. made me tear up a little. On the other hand, I want to learn high end content. I want to know it but I'm scared at the people who have done it a lot of times, I don't want to mess up because I might let them down. I have that issue personally and constantly fighting it. that's why I rarely do LFG.

I think pantheon is a good push in the direction of not catering to the casuals. It definitely feels challenging and hard to do the platinums at the lower light.

i love this general conversation content.

Gardens tether mechanic is literally stand in a line . Never understood the hate for it.

As someone who is currently speed running GoS for WR, I can say with 100% certainty that the garden tether IS BUGGED and does not work as intended about 30 to 40 percent of the time

The jump cut editing for jokes is really good.

“You guys just suck at standing still” Everyone w stick drift lowers their head in shame

IDK if this counts since it's kind of elitist vs elitist, but most people who complain about the game being too easy or certain weapons/builds being too overpowered are almost always the same people who abuse the shit out of those things to perform in the most optimal way possible and then get upset that them using the best things possible makes the game easy. Top players using top meta gear need to just accept that they've mastered the game and therefore the challenge posed by the game they've mastered is lower.

Disclaimer I'm not a huge hardware person. The main advantages I would say of leaving the prev console generation behind are the capabilities of more RAM, faster CPU/GPU, better memory throughput/ I/O. I believe those hardware benefits translate to faster loading from memory for assets such as environments /models. You also have more room capability for physics calculations, enemy AI calculations and decision making, and improved graphical fidelty from being able to send more rendering calculations to the GPU and get them back in time. A big caveat is that with games you're not necessarily using these resources statically - you're doing a lot of extra work to optimize and make the most of current resources. That's why there is a big difference is performance quality from the beginning of a console's lifetime to the end - its that dev teams are learning how to make the most of resources.

I highly agree with the "everybody should know roles" idea. Vow is the perfect example for it. With the artifact swapping and how buggy last can be, knowing how to read, how to split, and how to dunk are all important for if something happens. Don't waste people's time by being stubborn about your role. Open yourself to being taught the roles by someone. You'll become a better raider and there's a good chance you can get another person to play with on the regular

Knowing any and all rolls also keeps you in the lfg’s with good teams. Flexibility is really important

Pantheon emblems are a great start to rewards for higher end activities. Id love to see like a unique roll of specific guns only from pantheon (using it as example.)

22:28 Jez catching strays for no reason 😭

The last time I did Garden, it was super funky on the boss, and while doing one of the Div puzzles, the tether was vanishing after a few steps for no reason that we could see. I do love the raid and don’t struggle with the tether usually, but that run was absolutely cursed 😂

As a former raider who's retired to filthy casual, I freaking love Elitist Datto.

I used to play phantasy star online on ngc which had the 2 most rare sword a 1:64000 chance from the final boss and the other a 1:24000 chance from a rare enemy. Literally only a handfull of people got them legitemately in the world and it was awesome because it made some legendary drops actually legendary. And we clearly werent entitled af back then because it wasnt a problem

Hello elitist datto, my dad recently got a root canal. Your ad briefly terrified me. I am on to you and your eldritch knowledge. They may not believe but I do. I do.

Jez isn't even awake and caught a stray 💀

Okay, Datto, that ad cut made me laugh so hard I had a coughing fit. I haven't talked with my dad in over a decade. And he's bald. I may get him that for Father's Day, or his birthday, just to mess with him.

He was saying Garden Tether and I was so confused half the time thinking this was some hunter tether strategy I didn't know about 😂 My favorite thing about prestige calus was having people randomly teleport into his shadow realm.

The garden take was so real

It’s so healing hearing these raid takes. Except for the needing a whole team of flawless to get the seal. It’s hard enough finding 5 people who can walk in a straight line AND keep their head up and the least punishment I get for that the better lol.

In D1 I remember spending so much time babying my guardian and not wanting to touch anything that I didn’t feel ready for. The day that all changed was when I told myself I would try to one man the Crota raid without cheesing anything…when I pulled that off it was an eye opener that I could do anything I wanted as long as I was determined enough and since that day I’ve constantly tried to push the ability to do some of the hardest stuff solo.

Remember: the most elite and endgame loot is the day 1 raid belt as it's a real object. Anyone who says that there isn't enough "elite" loot in the game just wants the "elite" category exclude anyone below them. They just want to have something that tells them they are better than someone else.

My only mild point of disagreement with the first take is that the high tier loot in question should be reliably obtainable. If they added some new exotic specifically for master raids, for example, i think it should have a fairly high drop rate (maybe 20% or more).

Last take is amazing. My favorite moment playing Destiny was doing nukes in DSC with no plan, Mr. Blue Sky blasting over the call, and everyone just running around doing mechanics randomly. It's way more fun when you know all the mechanics and when roles change.

I was there for your cataphract grind and i versed you while also trying to grind out cataphract lmaooo

No items should be locked behind PVP

I gotta say: I'm NOT elité at all but I still agree with the general idea of this video. I just started doing solo dungeons (I solo flawlessed Prophecy a month ago and now I'm aiming at solo flawless for other dungeons) and I have ONE mere raid clear, in wich I was constantly ad clearing, and you know what? I couldn't care less. Destiny 2 community is full of both bad but nice people as well. I just found the right people to play with and IMPROVE MYSELF. As Datto said on the first or second take: buying the game gives you access to the contents, It doesn't entitle You to "catch 'em all", otherwise everyone would have dark matter camo in CoD or everyone would just swipe throgh bosses in games like Dark Souls and Elden Ring. YOU GOTTA GET BETTER, COMING FROM AN AVERAGE PLAYER. P.S. Sorry for my potentially bad english, hope I made myself clear enough. P.P.S. Love You Mr. trv, You are a legend

your dad looks like such a wholesome dude

My buddy was really worried about raiding to the point he never did it. Made it a mission to get him a clear in every raid. Started with RoN and tried to make him do mechanics at least once per encounter. He not only got hooked on raiding, he got Conditional on his first ever clear of a raid. Really cool way for the game to dangle that treat in front of him.

When the world needed him most, Elitist Datto returns.

The stuff about bugs for raid is probably mostly copium but holy after farming nezarec a ton he bugs out like 1/10 kills. Usually its just visual but occasionally we finish both light and dark and he just decides to wipe anyway, or we hit the point where we should get wiped and he just doesn't do it and lets us finish running lol. I think its just funny. Also gaze just doesn't work a lot where his shoulders don't even give off light/dark. I think it might be internet related or something but I sometimes have to let someone else pop shoulders because it wont show on my screen.

This is a great video well done!

"I want to learn" Boy do I wish this was how the majority are

Loved the elitist datto’s takes, but let’s be honest here, the real hero was datto’s dad and that ad read, just chefs kiss. 😂

This video is inspiring me to actually learn raid encounters

Garden final boss is a perfectly fine fight, people who say its cringe just don't realize or have the teamwork that is required.

These threads are so interesting because it’s like listening to someone who’s been on sudafed for fourteen years and can’t see colors anymore.

I would say, although i agree that buying the content does not entitle you to the loot, RNG should not be so prohibitively bad that people can do 50+ plus runs of an activity without getting a specific drop So while you shouldn’t be entitled to loot, there should be some sort of bad luck protection

Elitist Datto coming out?? This is gonna be good.

Datto going full Louis CK “GIVE IT A SECOND!” had me rolling

I remember properly doing the Garden tether and it not working multiple times during the whole raid