So painful but true

True

Got it first time fuckers

Laughs in I got the bow second run 😂 Update I've got it twice now. Feels weird to be this lucky since I still don't even have heartshadow

I got it 1st run 😂😊

I like that you can look down at the final arena and up to the starting area in both this and Pit

wild

@Ya Mum grasp and duality are hella fantastical, to the point he doesn't see them as real, but idfk how Pit isn't grounded when we've dealth with hive temples like that since D1

You can see the end areas at the start of pit, shattered throne and grasp. Put, it’s in the pit (you can also see the starting area from the boss room) shatty t it’s the big fuck off spire (you can also see the starting area from the boss room) and grasp if you look for the ketch in the distance, it’s above the boss room. Duality, shatty t and prophesy all use the same alt dimension thing but that stuff is so ingrained into destiny now I don’t even notice.

@@atomic_waitand shatty t

That and I like how hitting the nodes feels like running the gauntlet in a way, and it really rewards you getting more and more efficient - as in there's no RNG to the mechanic and its purely map traversal and knowledge. I enjoyed figuring out Duality and beating it the first 4 or 5 times but after that its become a real slog. Definitely felt more of an accomplishment beating Duality day 1 vs Spire, but I think Spire is going to be fun for longer.

Me and my buddies place this as the second worse dungeon in the game.

@@reachcole514 i love this dungeon just wish enemies were more unique

@reachcole but why tho? You can't just drop that In here without context.

@@Brawlio13 primarily the final boss room. We all hold disdain for Wyverns so an unkillable high damaging wyvern drops it quote a bit on its own. Short dps phases with the inconsistency of Wyvern hitboxes. The fact that supplicants can Spawn in the middle of every area in the rooms makes them more aggravating than in any other activity.

Same!! Vow was my first raid and my Sherpa pointed out where we started the first encounter once we got to the final boss and man something about that triggered this dopamine rush in me that made me really stay with the game since then. I really enjoy that about this one as well and hope others get that same rush of satisfaction

@@groovydolph Just seeing the sheer distance we've covered to get to where we are is awe-inspiring! Can't recall another game where I've felt that, and it's part of the reason why Destiny keeps me coming despite its MANY shortcomings.

@@ajeenius7437 agreed brother!

Good call👍

Or just get good

@@DiscoDevil197 lol

@@DiscoDevil197 Using the proper counter to an enemy is "gitting gud"

Doesn’t levis breath do like only 20k a precision hit

it also does an awesome job of letting you feel like you progress, from a narrative and setting perspective. You start running (probably more like eager edging) through the dunes, then you come across this abandoned western town with the bushweed (nice touch there) and see the spire in the distance. After the door in the ground opens up you travel through some incredibly large basement that just screams big vex plans and mystery. You get to ascend the tower from the outside while platforming with dizzying heights below you, have an epic bossfight on the top of it while constantly risking being pushed down (especially at the end of a damage phase), drop down through some vents, rotorblades and techy rooms, to face a really good boss in the basement, which you actually saw earlier in the dungeon traversing some hallway, and all of that is presented in a very thematic, clear way. Definitely a cool first experience.

^ this, in and out; easily farmable

The traversal sections and overall atmosphere are what makes Dungeons Dungeons and not just three person raids

Japan is beautiful on foot though

@@commentingchannel9776 Its what makes them not strikes, imo.

Lightblade is my favorite strike because so much of it feels like a dungeon with less mechanics, but also clearable in reasonable time depending on the difficulty, which I think Legend tends to hit, but still having to deal with the Champion nonsense. I’d say I like this the most for similar if opposed reasons: I like that it feels like a more intensive yet similarly rewarding Strike more than the past dungeons. It probably doesn’t have the same atmospheric impact that basically all the past dungeons had, for sure, but of all the dungeons I could be invited to run back for loot with my friends, this is the first that I think I’d happily do a quick run or even more (circumstances willing), and not having craftable weapons in the pool just adds to that incentive.

This might be the first Dungeon I try to solo without inevitably hating the dungeon due to failed attempts tedium lol

You can speed up duality encounters and it feels much more rewarding because there is so much risk involved if you screw up. Duality by far is the hardest to solo flawless imo

@Ya Mum ye but shattered throne is blindness simulator, so automatically bad

Yeah, I dunno. The whole thing felt a little boring to me.. And thematically confused. It felt like they just stuck Vex assets in a generic environment. I don't think the dungeon was bad, just average.

@@lucashytinen8160 my solo flawless run in doodooality got ruined by those broken ass bells

No that would be saltagreppo

My opinion is here, Cayde-Sex would’ve loved this Dungeon if he hadn’t been FOMOd 😢😢😢😢

Opinion goblin (I mean that in a nice way)

Datto is opinion man and fallout is shotgun man what would all the other destiny youtubers/streamers "___" man be

I'm going to be much more willing to hop in and run through it every reset to get the exotic vs Duality, that's for sure. After like my 25th clear w/ no exotic and like 2 SMG drops I've given up ever running that damn thing again.

@@jerryballstein Bro, I feel your pain. I’m 31 clears in on Duality and still haven’t gotten Heartshadow to drop.

Got it

oooh gotta try that

It's not as easy as it sounds, although it is still incredibly easy lmao

One warmind cell with global reach will activate every node in the room if you have the buff as well

No way, the alt fire will activate any node‽

Disagree. The damage phases of the 2nd and 3rd encounter are very brief and are obviously intended to be done as a group.

I feel like you're making all of that up in your head. Glad you're having fun tho

Lol designed for solo players??? - I want what you're smoking

This one is likely the one least designed for solo players. I took a buddy with me who is new to Destiny through it, so naturally I had to do a lot of damage, and the DPS checks were absurd. I was using a god rolled linear with font of might and debuffs and such plus witherhoard, and it only put a little dent in the consecrated mind boss. Final boss is was super tough, took like 45 minutes, we used rockets and fusion rifles and still, super little damage done.

@@Boris_The_Turtle people have already solo 2 phased harpy and solo 3 phased the wyvern. If your only point for why something WASN'T designed with solo's in mind was damage then the damage should be like 4-5+ phases to kill with perfect damage. the fact that solo's are killing bosses in similar phases to most lfg groups just proves that it WAS designed with solo players in mind. But specifically with GOOD solo players in mind.

Just to nitpick, because I think it’s better than how you described it; if I remember Byf’s explanation correctly then it’s more that we discover after thwarting the Vex’s primary plan of luring and trapping the subminds in the tower by killing the Siren, we discover that they had a secondary plan in place to blow the thing up after ensuring they’d gotten whatever data the Witness sent them to collect from it. It’s one of the most interesting (and more importantly, realized in-game) Vex plotlines I can genuinely remember since Perfect Paradox during the Taken King, with them now working directly under orders from the Witness itself to enact multiple plans with backups in place as well. Granted to what extent their goal was to trap the subminds versus collect the data versus blow up the facility is certainly up for discussion and ironing out the specifics with, but the fact stands that they had multiple plans at play together operating on different levels of… intention (I guess is the best word I can think of)

@@Boulder7685 thanks for the clarification, ill have to go watch the video. Another cool detail I just remebered was that in the large jumping section, you see the wyvern attempting to get past some doors, meaning the whole thing is in motion from the very beginning. Great attention to detail throughout.

@@azap1378 had an exact moment of realization of that Wyvern myself. Saw it the first go through, paid it little thought, then as soon as we went to replay it I saw it again and realized that was the boss and the only Wyvern in the entire dungeon.

In the first jumping puzzle you can look off to your right and see the final boss opening up doors and making his way towards the core. Pretty neat detail

@@underscore_5450 Bro you might be on to something

"So let's get to taking out their command"

@@RiggedFem one by one.

Wires D'ARC

From what I can gather, he’s plugged into a wall outlet in an imperial land tank outside of rubicon

He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, unplug this beast, and break their grip on Rasputin.

funny thing is that I so bad at memorizing things, that after doing it solo and then master with 2 friends for the title I still don't remember most of them lol.

And prophecy gets a pass for reusing the lake of shadows strike boss, grasp has a giant ogre and captain that we’ve definitely never seen before ever 😭

I don’t think they necessarily “get a pass” but rather this was the straw that seems to be breaking the camels back, so to speak.

Duality’s Gahlran doesn’t have the exact same mechanics as Gahlran in Crown. Also, Gahlran’s small form is just a Cabal Bather. The Siren has the exact same “shoot eyes, then I run away” as Consecrated Mind.

@@kasm7870 however the mechanic is still overall different in spire then garden, they just included the minor mechanic it has during damage, Galron still aggressively attacks you, the ogre in shattered still shoots taken orbs, the lake of shadows boss still pushes you with his shield, etc. They all don’t have anything unique except the overall mechanic you use to get to damage and the harpy is no different if that makes sense

@@kasm7870 Also, Siren is still in the game. GoS is still in the game. Crown of Sorrows is not. Personally, it doesn't bother me, but I have to admit that I've noticed practically everything this season is reused from past content. We've got Bunkers from Season of the Worthy, we've got Cryptoliths from Season of the Hunt. We've got a giant shrieker boss in the first week that's ripped straight out of the vaulted Savathun's Song strike. We've also got Warmind nodes to collect straight from the Warmind expansion. Even then, the only reason this bothers me is because there appears to be very little original content / new additions, aside from the Dungeon environment and some of its gear (I'm not OK at all with them reusing seraph weapons in the loot pool when there are other seraph weapons in the WORLD loot pool currently), the seasonal weapons, part of the bunkers and the story itself. All that said it's very early in the season, so we don't know what else is coming yet. But its a very short season, and we've also got the Dawning festival taking up a fair bit of time. I'm not expecting much length from the story, nor anything significantly new in any other bunker destinations we visit. It's very clear that Bungie spent very little time on the season compared to earlier seasons, but then again there's been a noticeable trend of reused content throughout this year, compared to last year's seasons. I hope this means that we can expect a sizeable update when Lightfall launches, because overwise I have to wonder what Bungie have been working on. They've clearly shown they can do more, with last year's seasons and the Witch Queen expansion, and whilst I appreciate their desire not to overdeliver and increase our expectations, presently our expectations are seeing the game move in a downwards trend. Not that I speak for everyone of course. Sorry for piggybacking off of my initial reply to your comment. Just my two cents on the current situation in Destiny.

D1 never had a raid?

@@Vino976 it never had anything on Mars, sorry for the confusion

Helpful tip: Supplicants spawn every time you complete a circuit, if you leave the first circuit just before shooting the final node and then complete the first and second one at the same time supplicants will not spawn, or they will spawn and despawn after a sec.

When doing the dungeon solo this is what i felt aswell. final room felt like it was too deadly for how long you had to be there. i get that tuning for solo and 3 ppl is very hard, but in this dungeon it felt really rough compared to the other ones.

imagine smth like archer's tempo on a scout or hand cannon...

I say screw it and give it on an auto/LMG, give me breakneck 2.0

Funny you say Half Life 2 because it reminds me a lot of Portal 1 and 2 with all the platforming, man made facilities and isolating atmosphere. I guess it just gives off Valve vibes in a good way.

They could have at least changed the color of it. Maybe even changed the moss on the vex because it doesn't fit the environment like it does in Garden.

It seems like it can get decent perks but the issue is that it's both an auto and a 450 auto with auto's being pretty bad and 450 ones being some of the worst weapons ingame currently.

Cope

@@ADUSN Mald harder bud

I LOVE the sense of mastery here

@@somedude1887 I'm not the one rationalizing paying for the same assets again.

@@JL32506 Noone is being attacked, Luke.

My first solo flawless attempt was ruined because I fell to my death on the fall through the shaft right before the final boss. I got it done later on, but damn that was annoying