The issue with these trailers is that they don't show the full perk description. This is an exotic where they need to show full perk or else it's current sentiment where people saying it's trash

I want an exotic that makes gjallarhorn rockets come directly from my face.

For the Hunter exotic, it doesn't look like it packs a ton of damage. Those explosions didn't seem to kill anything off the rip, but if it's spammable with Flow State and Lethal Current? We might be able to just throw out a ton of nonsense for virtually no cost.

The Warlock chest HAS to have a second part to the perk. I remember when Swarmers was teased it only showed the 2 threadlings from a tangle. We only learned of the Unravel thing after it released. If that exotic has a second part that grants melee energy on suspend kills (or suspending enemys idk) then it might actually have a play. If not, then it's dead on arrival. And nobody is using this on prismatic, Datto, be fr.

They turned Failsafe into an exotic chestpiece.

Warlocks: rope-jitsu Titans: MLRS Hunters: "so we heard you liked the bombardiers" (nobody uses the bombardiers) Guys help i angered all 4 bombardier users 💀

For the titan exotic, they might just be doing it for flavor because “rockets go brr” but the titan does pull out a rocket launcher right after the barricade rocket volley launches so maybe it has some kind of interaction with rocket launchers. Like a brief moment of extra damage or something? Idk, just coping right now because they all seem kinda underwhelming

Warlock chest should be how it works by default

I feel about these. You know. I have a feeling idk what it is but I feel. A feely feel the feels... Feely

I did note that the Warlock only used the Arcane Needles on Champions. So hopefully enemy tier is a factor in how many Needles is needed for the Suspend. Perhaps: 1 needle = minors, 2 needles = elites + Guardians, 3 needles = minibosses/champions

as an arc hunter main, finally having an exotic that isn’t raiju’s, lucky raspberry, raiden, shinobu’s…. wait a second

Mataidoxia could be good if its built in a way similar to Second Chance. If Suspending enemies gave you melee energy, or if getting a kill with a melee also triggered the effect, it could help contribute to a heavy suspend focused build that would be a sidegrade for the braindead weavers+necrotic+osteo. Gifted Conviction could be ridiculously strong if it procced on Lethal Current's melee or on dodge. If it's only Tempest Strike or Ascension I think it might be an underwhelming meme exotic. I really want Hazardous propulsion to have some sort of synergy with Wardcliff or Grand overture similar to what Hunter has with Moths or Warlock has with Weapons of Sorrow. Like firing them while standing behind a barricade sends out another wave of missiles.

Warlocks got the Titan exotic treatment and the backlash shows this

I think these exotics also will have other secondary effects that aren’t as flashy or can’t be shown. My example of this is cyrtarachnes facade which grants woven mail (easy to show in a trailer), and flinch resistance (difficult to show in a trailer)

Hopefully warlock chest maybe gives us melee energy back for killing suspended enemies, or some other effect, just adding suspend to melee is dumb

For the Titan, I’m curious at specifically calling the Exodus Rockets - I’m wondering if this will be another hidden interaction exotic with a new exotic rocket launcher involving exodus rockets. So long as the warlock has a good passive effect I could see it, also, in the first clip it looks like the range might actually be insane on the explosion. I’ve come to the conclusion that Arc hunter is the most boring class aesthetically, and the exotics mirror that.

Ok so I think the warlock chest is underrated because of its usage on threadling builds. If you are running a threadling build and the aspect that gives threadlings on rift the main problem is uptime for that rift. You want to get it back as quick as possible but the only thing that does that in the class is a fragment that requires suspends. The only way to get suspends enough to make it worth it is to eat a shackle grenade with mindspun meaning you are not running weave walk and have to burn a grenade on not threadlings. If you run this you can run that fragement, use Weavewalk, a threadling grenade and the build something to build around which is melee charges. If you need a rift suspend a target and kill it. If you need to perch threadlings use Weavewalk. I am already using Monte Carlo for the threadling build so this seems like a really nice slot in for that build alone.

My guess for the warlock is that kills will activate the burst in one arcane needle and for the beefy targets like champs it will require the 3 consecutive like the video. Potentially having diff tiers of enemies create different size bursts. They have been doing that tiered stuff a lot recently.

For the warlock one, I'm guessing that adding more melee to the same enemy, increases the radius of the suspend detonation. So you can probably suspend with 1 melee I'd guess. Otherwise, it's going to be absolute garbage. Even if it works the way I think it might, it still might not be all that amazing honestly

if it depends on the target i think it would be good. kill a red bar get the suspend but bigger targets require more needles. the other 2 seem fine to me

I'm wondering how that titan exotic will synergize with the aspect that sends out a suspension wave when you deploy your barricade. Does it suspend before the rockets come out? If so.. that'll be really nice

for the Titan exotic I think there was 7 explosions on the dodge whereas there is 6 rockets on the shield, so maybe kills increase the number of missiles? I think the Warlock exotic triggers the suspend explosion upon triggering a suspend.

Were any of the lightfall or witch queen exotics any good? Other than the pyrogales and that one warlock helmet can’t remember the last time we got a good exotic.

I hope that the little bombs dropping applies to the damage resist dodge and maybe pairable w lucky pants but i doubt it

Not sure if anyone's pointed this out but the Titan exotic does look like it works with Arc dodge, its in the first example at 6:30 but kinda blends in with the ogre slam

If the rocket barricade goes something along the lines of "dealing damage with the rockets grants class ability energy" there could be some good use cases. Im thinking void titan with overshield and devour + either bombers for more grenades or utility kickstart

I could see the titan one applying a subclass class specific debuff, like suppress, blinded, slow etc

The hunter exotic looks like it the explosions have a chain reaction type effect. The secondary explosions.

I definitely think the Titan exotic will be a good way to encourage me to use the barrier more. Especially when survivability in D2 revolves around using hard cover and moving about, my barrier often stays on cool-down not doing anything, so I really like the idea of this exotic because it allows me to salvage some value that would often otherwise go completely unused.

I’m hype for that Titan one. They’re gonna have to make it hit like a fucking freight train for it to be viable, but at least it’s cool.

I’m just saying I might be wrong but I think spirit of the bear on the titans exotic bond might be hinting at a new exotic coming for titans since it give super energy for the damage “the unbreakable shield” takes which is the titans new aspect yet no one has mentioned this

The new void Titan aspect was supposed to use your class ability like thruster right? So with the new exotic you could block and fire rockets theoretically.

I hope that Titan Exotic has hidden synergy with a weapon. It specifies "exodus rockets" so I'm hoping there's a new exotic rocket launcher that also fires exodus rockets.

Would be cool if needlestorm also works with the warlocks exotic. It would also be cool if they are added to the exotic class item spirit pools. Because if so I'd run the hunter one with 6th coyote so i can do two spins that amp me jolts them and launches those nades

titan when he’s fighting the ogre he does a dash back then launched missiles so twilight with explosives then it also launched off barricade something interesting is do these rocket work with other perks like Ghorn it looks the most fun out of the 3. Another question is are these perks in the double exotic class item cause the titan one suspending the firing missiles or launch a fire wave an missiles off a barricade could be fun

i know exactly how i feel.. the warlock chest visually is very nice.. as for the perks themselves they kinda feel = to aspects

4:24 better devils is 100% coming back because it’s shooting strand and in the twid where they showed off the new buff ui they show a strand hand cannon with one quiet moment (crucible origin trait)

was the enemy hit by the missiles stunned? maybe they have anti champ properties

a very niche case for the new titan one, the behemoth avalanche spam, where you loop your class ability with your avalanche nade and modified upper cut to just loop them all and AoE crash through mobs and elites

the way i see it, the Warlock chest is basically a free Aspect. it lets your melees proc Suspend like the Aspect does and can either free up that Aspect for a different two on Strandlock, or give Prismalock access to easy Suspend

One way to make that warlock chest better add “killing suspended targets with super refunds super energy”

They gotta add a little more these abilites by themselfs are very flat do they debuff, at all do they mix with anything? i feel like this is how abilities should already be expanded and maybe they should make new light debuffs or buffs for these.

Does anyone know if we’re getting more exotic armour other than these three

Titan one might be good, but if you get your class ability back if all rocket hit something that might be better

For the titan exotic. It would be good if it applied subclass effects on hit. ie. Slow on Stasis, weaken on void, scorch on solar etc.

For the Warlock exotic, if it could be similar to Getaway Artists allowing get suspension with melee while running other expects.

Titan wall firing rockets is so funny

Arcane needle suspends targets could be good in a scenario in which ur in over ur head… but the strand melee’s take 10 years to come back to full and if u need 3 to cause a burst then it’s not worth it… better off using necrotic or sumn At least the arc one even got a kill tho and hunters have tons of goofy arc abilities to toss out, especially if ur built into it and I mean like… does each swipe of arc staff cause the skips to come out? Would they potentially count as grenades maybe and be affected by the jolt fragment? Titan one is underwhelming cuz like Mr tormentor shrugged it off and didn’t seem affected at all… tho I’d def use it with thruster for a lil boost of dps when I’m on the move… dunno if I’d use any of em tho tbh… Neat tho 😢

the hunter chestpiece might be huge if it works with flow state, since if it does, flow state procs off kills with volt shot weapons.

I'm curious if the exodus rockets stack with roaring flames...if so that could be a really silly build

I’m assuming yes the hunter one works with any arc aspects.

I think that prismatic is going to be quite weak due to the limited aspects and fragments. My guess as that it will be built around taking a power level hit in the neutral game in exchange for access to the powerful transcendence. I could be mega wrong on this though. Also I expect that the artefact mods will probably be the thing to make prismatic broken.

Yeah if kills shortly before class ability for the titan exotic would increase number or damage of rockets (or both), it could actually be super interesting

I know for a fact that other than pheonix protocol, I will not be wearing any mono exotics because exotic class items are freeing up my robe options (yay) and I can finally fashion my main character (I love my pheonix protocol ornament)

For the warlock exotic, it looks like it takes all three, which is redundant when the fragment for eating your grenade literally exists, not to mention the new bow that suspends as well. Kinda feels like they're just running out of ideas and this is going to be a GREAT exotic for the new prismatic subclass since it probably won't have access to grapple grenade BUT will have access to needle shot. Who knows. All I know is that it reminds me of Alchemist Raiment on the back.

7:35 nah, im bout to make a colossus set up 😂😂 Put on Skyburners and this exotic with a ton of transmog that makes me look like a Cabal Colossus 😂😂😂

I assume each has secondary perks as well. They seem to want every exotic armor to have at least 2 affects, not only for the ability to use their spirit for exotic class items but also to improve viability. My default assumption is the armor pieces will also have ways to get energy back for the required abilities but who knows

For the warlock chest, maybe one makes a small detonation and three makes a big detonation

Of the rockets can escalate damage maybe there is a play. Number of kills, matching elemental, ability kills, something.

I think each will be pretty ok in their own regards, its just how they would be used and how they would actually function.

I'm assuming that these trailers only show the main perks and that there is some secondary perks at least to the warlock and hunter ones idk about Titan that feels pretty simple and complete. Hopefully that's the case and the secondary perks save these exotics b/c as they are they are probably not going to see much play.

All these exotics will do more. The warlock one probably gives you melee energy on suspension kills Ala dawn chorus

I would like my rift to send a strand wave when I place it. Similar to how stasis does the freezing effect, that’d be great lol

Im pretty psyched/intruiged by the exotics. I already gave some builds in mind that ive mapped out in DIM, but i do think these exotics are made with Prismatic in mind. Totally get Datto's point about "gotta see the damage," tho. Id love to see Bungie take the direction of exotics like the Titan's and the Hunter's (and even the 'Lock's) leaning into being tuned SPECIFICALLY for champs and minibosses. Where exotics provide an anti-champ effect as a built in feature (eg Athyrs') or as a happy by product (eg Bombardiers taking on subclass effects), tune those joints to do sizeable damage to champs given the risk-reward of being in close proximity.

We only see what they do, not the full description yet. We shall see, but some of them do seem underwhelming. The Titan one though looks dope and could have some fun with that lol.

I saw these this morning and was impressed but unsure how to feel now that my opinion is here I feel alot better, thanks Datto

Is Onslaught staying when the Final Shape comes out?

Y’know, Armamentarium was the very first D2 exotic armor I got, and it’s what my Titan is wearing today. With the way I play, unless I’m going into something very specific, nothing has proven to be more CONSISTENTLY useful than just giving me another grenade. 🤷‍♂️

Is that failsafe on the Titan chest? Especially with it saying Exodus rockets.

All these class enhanced exotic should have been aspect or tool kits related to that subclass… and exotic should ve been something like Pyrogale Celestial nighthawk anything. Is it asking too much for more aspect slot and more new aspect in general?

Mataidoxia would let me make a pretty good weavewalk build, since I normally keep the wanderer on, but weavewalk only having 1 fragment slot.

I wish Better Devils was normal kinetic instead of Strand. Seems like they’re reprising SO MANY primaries as strand and stasis instead of keeping them as they were. Plain kinetic weapons are great. I’m getting fewer and fewer options for chromatic fire haha

The only one that interests me is the titan exotic. It really depends on how much damage the rockets do though. Cause if its not good im just gonna use the exotic class item instead.

I've gotta see Datto's reaction to the new trace

The titan one looks like it would be fun for an ignition/radiant, incandescent build icl

For the hunter one it looks like jts just the jolt that’s clearing the ads and not the actual exotic

We’ll probably get a deep dive Thursday, explaining things in-depth.

A lot exotic armour is getting a buff in Lightfall. For example, Armamentarium will allow grenades to generate orbs of power, which in turn grants grenade energy.

Saw a meme about how the titan and hunter exotics are just the bombadiers but they probably dont have subclass synergy I completely forgot about khepris horn because its literally useless So now titans and hunters get an exotic that they already have, and warlocks get an exotic for a thing they already excel at

I like the hunter chest it kinda looks cool and is a reason to run the new aspect

These exotics look basic as a base exotic. Ideally they are in the Exotic Class items and just weren't listed last week due to spoilers for new gear. If this chestpiece is available as Spirit of Mataidoxia, and ANY charged melee hit suspends, this would be insane with the sliding Arc melee.

My issue with the Hunter and Titan exotics is that it isn't immediately clear what sort of synergies or interactions they have. Without knowing what sorts of keywords they play into, it's impossible to get a feel for how they'd be incorporated into a build or how stong said build might be. If the Hunter one either blinds or jolts when the projectiles hit, then I can see a potential future for it, but if it's just Arc explosives like the old Bombardiers was, then I'm probably never going to use it.

A thougt has just occurred to my sleep deprived brain. The titan exotic may proc off of the dodge ability, which could be super funny

What if with the titan's barricade rockets you match it with Arbor Warden so now you have two grenades of sort. Just a thought, would definitely be determined on the damage to see if it's worth it or not.

Warlock: mid Hunter: Meh, I can make it work prob Titan: holy sh..

I think people are sleeping on Mataidoxia (the Warlock chest). For solo lost sectors or any content where I'm fighting with teammates for kills, I will absolutely take a consistent champion stun that doesn’t require me to juggle enemy kills for Weaver's Trance. Especially because it uses your underwhelming (though still useful) melee charges. Slap on Monte Carlo and I'll spam those suspends even more.

Class ability can also be thruster for Titan.

The warlock chest piece combined with lightning surge tho 👀

I’m almost certain that if you need to land all three needles, there’ll be something in the exotic that gets your melee back faster (or it will be buffed to do that after player feedback).

"Titan version of the bombadiers" is interesring to think about.

Considering Strand Felwinter or Necrotic Grips can toss one melee and take care of an entire group of ads, if not kill everything shortly after, the new exotic is pretty bad. Hunter might be alright. Titan though, that just looks fun.

The titan one should've turned your Q into a charging headbutt.

finally another 2 burst hand cannon, hopefully with some ad clear perks

Do the titan rockets get Wolfpack rounds from Galli

Nobody seems to be pointing out that the titan exotic activated on a backwards dodge the first time round. Implying that it can either replace your class ability or there's a new class ability coming to titan.

If the Hunter one can work with killing jolted targets to shit these out, then it could be really good with voltshot weapons, but i dont foresee these being used much. As ive seen before in other comments, the crowd goes mild

Put on Sweet business with hazardous propulsion and finally become……Valus Ta’aurc

Welp if that's the case better start getting artifice armor if the class items going to be a thing..

The Titan exotic missiles should blind like the big ass cabal with the Gatling guns and the blinding rockets

I just hope you get a few more exotic weapons. We already know almost all of the exotics such as red death, the D1 assault rifle, the golden gun sniper, and the traveler trace rifle. None of these have been a secret. I hope they have a few more in stock for us not including the raid exotic or echos episode exotic