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@copypaste_pro 4 ай бұрын

Lars in the 70s listening to pirate cassette copies of Motörhead’s songs 👁️ 👄 👁️

@utubeisgay72 3 ай бұрын

"napster made me force my drummer to take experimental medicine"

@georgekarson6599 3 ай бұрын

Lars was right

@YouTubesSucksDick 3 ай бұрын

@@georgekarson6599No, Lars had his blinders on. Ultimately, anything that is free in the modern economy can be advertised and taxed. He just didn't understand how to make money off of free music at the time.

@georgekarson6599 3 ай бұрын

@mieczyslaw2685 Ever since napster Music has sunk faster than a f****** led Zeppelin. Nothing but s*** in the last 25 years and you tell me hes not f****** right. Shame on you shame on you.🫠

@TheJestercraft 3 ай бұрын

Lars is a little rat.

@Meattornado 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone else remember when the middle class could afford concerts and vacations? It was a magical time

@Eman-wj8gq 3 ай бұрын

I've only ever heard about those times. Did those days really exist?

@Redacted-Information 3 ай бұрын

THANKS BIDENOMICS #Trump2024

@Eman-wj8gq 3 ай бұрын

@@Redacted-Information Trump sucks 👎👎

@shaneperreault 3 ай бұрын

They still can, everyone’s just poor now.

@user-mf3in4pv7h 3 ай бұрын

Middle class? What’s this middle class you speak of?

@PRND21 3 ай бұрын

I remember going to sleep while downloading 5 songs off Napster because it took 6 hours 😂

@vasocreta 3 ай бұрын

damn straight. LOL

@cdr861532 3 ай бұрын

I downloaded the first fast and furious movie……shit took like 2 weeks.

@MandalaOfThe7 3 ай бұрын

Then DSL. I thought we hade gone to ludicrous speed.

@cdr861532 3 ай бұрын

@@MandalaOfThe7 Absolutely. A friend of mine had DSL and he could DL songs in like 5 minutes. I was blown away. Every time i came to his house I would DL as much as possible and burn them to CD's.......still have some of them lol.

@SilentRage01 3 ай бұрын

@@MandalaOfThe7😂😂😂😂😂 I had 2 modems, and 2 phone lines in one computer. They were both slow

@alanho4471 2 ай бұрын

Dave Grohl was wrong for the right reasons whereas Lars was likely right for the wrong reasons.

@SamtheWarden 2 ай бұрын

Brilliant

@ryuhayabaker 2 ай бұрын

Lars's annoyance was a song on the radio was being played that they were still working on. So he wanted control of what was being released firstly, and then said it'll be the death of the music industry if it continues. He's almost correct in that, as music is just now so throwaway

@richardaaron4454 2 ай бұрын

Well said… As a musician myself, I’d use the download sites to hear a couple songs but then I’d go buy the albums if I liked them but I’m guessing that I was a minority.

@Bruise.Pristine 2 ай бұрын

Lars was wrong for the wrong reasons

@alanho4471 2 ай бұрын

Is music worse now? Is it just me? And maybe streaming and how it pays artists is a factor?

@johnbroskey736 4 ай бұрын

What pisses me off more than that is the prices of concert tickets

@DavidFrancis24824 4 ай бұрын

Concert tickets are expensive now bc people stole their music. It is the only revenue stream for musicians now. Its what people deserve for stealing music. Thats so arrogant to think anyone deserves anything for free.

@ButterBallTheOpossum 4 ай бұрын

@@DavidFrancis24824 thats not true. The reason is 3rd party ticket sellers. I paid $400 for rage against the machine tickets and the price on the ticket says $50

@mrjamesgrimes 4 ай бұрын

@@ButterBallTheOpossumyou bought them aftermarket…also Rage is lame

@ericwalters5382 4 ай бұрын

@@ButterBallTheOpossum Yep, Scalpers

@robsalazar138 4 ай бұрын

Thats what im sayin. Im not gonna say the name of the band because im still a huge fan, but theres a punk/rockabilly band from orange county that ive seen a bunch of times anyway, but the last time they toured before my wife passed, i wanted to take her because she loved them too but had never seen them. We looked up tickets, and they were like 60 bucks a piece! I know things are expensive now, but i refused.to pay $120 to see a.punk rok band that ive seen 10 times before and never paid over 25 to see.them. i wanted to go to the Pantera "reunion" as well and those tix were $100 a piece! Wtf?!?!

@blackhawk7r221 4 ай бұрын

Ha! Remember Axl Rose stopping concerts because someone had a camera?

@Paul-uo1vw 3 ай бұрын

Yea, that was common place for Axl back in the day. He ALWAYS found a reason to stop a concert.

@nostalgiajim 3 ай бұрын

And causing a full-on riot in the process......

@JeffreyShemayme 3 ай бұрын

In the 70's no cameras or tape recorders allowed in the arenas

@user-me3er7lm1o 3 ай бұрын

Axl would stop a concert because: He didnt like the sound of the music Someone looked at him wrong It was too hot It was too cold The lights were shining in his eyes Someone tossed a plastic bottle up on stage He was a prick and got paid when the fans should have got 50% of their money back.

@dldavis1212 3 ай бұрын

I have seen Guns N Roses twice since Slash rejoined the band and both times were so disappointing. All they did was show up on time and play a 3 hour set of their greatest hits. I paid good money to watch Axl fight the audience, quit the band mid show and start a massive riot, but all he did was sing songs!

@duaneshank6788 2 ай бұрын

Lars was absolutely right. He wasn't worried about himself, he did it for artists of the future...and now look

@NV86thr 2 ай бұрын

Now i'm happy to pay spotify. Not like most of the bitches

@E.C.2 2 ай бұрын

Damn straight,he knew Napster would destroy music. Well here we are,bands receiving .50 cents for 50,000 uploads. Dave has always been a clueless big govt leftist.

@ray.a7343 2 ай бұрын

Ya like they made $50 mil on a $50 mil sale 😂they get like $4 mil after the record company ,fees,lawyers, distributors, look up prince breaking down how much they actually get

@moogs05 2 ай бұрын

@@E.C.2can’t spell government ?

@E.C.2 2 ай бұрын

@@moogs05No I can't spell government.

@Sebastian-dx2xg Ай бұрын

I remember this situation. Should it matter? Lars was speaking for all musicians but he gets the crap because he was rich. They should be thanking him

@MrRwk314 20 күн бұрын

What did it matter? All shutting Napster down did was create 1000 more file sharing services. You can download albums off KZfaq now.

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

bullllshiiittt

@colbyclayton8052 3 ай бұрын

Lars was right. Digital destroyed the industry. Bands don't make a dime other than touring without a massive single.

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

LOL, Bullshit. More small ( and large)artist are making more than ever. Its the publishers that are crying because they cant exploit and control kids anymore. This was a dumb argument then, and is a dumb argument now.

@berlinocelot 2 сағат бұрын

It changed the industry and it's still trying to adapt to making f all money from recordings. That being said, trying to stop the tsunami that was the internet and the digitalisation of our lives seems in retropect, like trying to kick piss up a hill. This is the new reality so music has to find a way to still thrive as an artistic medium.

@robertdavidson-xr2ij 3 ай бұрын

I wore a homemade shirt to one of Metallica's shows that I paid $200 for mosh pit standing room only. It said "I had to pirate your songs to pay for this spot on the floor!"😂

@the-engneer 3 ай бұрын

I love this so much!!!

@DavidRamirez-fe5dd 3 ай бұрын

Lars cried that night

@thegaulbegaul 3 ай бұрын

That's f**kin awesome.

@davestuddaman8127 3 ай бұрын

How much is a ticket for a Foo fighters concert?

@DavidRamirez-fe5dd 3 ай бұрын

@davestuddaman8127 35 dollars at the boise open golf series. They are the entertainment, it includes the golf tournament and concert afterwards

@bassistdeath502 2 ай бұрын

Turns out Lars was spot on.

@tonymcnamara9368 2 ай бұрын

Lars was 100% correct! Napster became Spotify, and now, because record sales are so low, fans have to pay a fortune for gig tickets!

@NeoGeo85 Ай бұрын

jajajaja los recitales siempre fueron caros men.. no solo pagas la entrada tambien comes bebes y compras cosas! osea es un hiper negocio loa recitales! los CDs perdieron ante la comodidad de las personas en tener todo en digital..pero recorda que eso va a traer problemas tarde o temprano!.. por eso soy partidario del Disco Fisico

@Godloveszaza Ай бұрын

Yup dave was just full of himself.

@uncle_Samssubjects Ай бұрын

Lars was completely wrong, the market is rigged against the talent and in favor of the stakeholders who own the infrastructure. The prices are high because the talent sign shity contracts and the investor know they can milk the fans.

@Godloveszaza Ай бұрын

@@uncle_Samssubjects you said a whole lot of nothing uncle sam

@nectarinedreams7208 Ай бұрын

@@Godloveszaza That's rich coming from you.

@scottsw25 4 ай бұрын

Illegally downloading music exposed me to a lot of different bands that i never would have heard and i ended up buying cd's of those bands in the long run

@Xplora213 3 ай бұрын

You could have done the same listening to the radio. That’s what singles were for. Or music videos…

@scottsw25 3 ай бұрын

@@Xplora213 back then I was a metalhead. No one was playing bands like Amon Amarth on the radio in the early 2000's. I doubt they even get radio time today

@HandsomeBastard 3 ай бұрын

@@Xplora213Oh yeah just wait all day for the song to come on 😂 That's dumb AF

@Xplora213 3 ай бұрын

@@HandsomeBastard 😂 you are trading your convenience for money. That’s the entire point of copyright. Remember the artist gets paid when it’s on the radio. Not much but it’s more than you stealing the song. That’s the fundamental problem with piracy. You have kids who don’t realise how the artist actually makes money. The single is never given for free. The control of the playback is the only thing that gets the artist paid. The Right to Copy.

@Xplora213 3 ай бұрын

@@scottsw25 there was a single show in my country, 3 hours once a week and it was unlistenable. I started my love of Pantera and Slayer literally through Beavis and Butthead. Morbid Angel as well. Then I followed more bands through liner notes. Sepultura Desperate Cry video on the TV at 3am. There are avenues available at the time, and I don’t think people appreciate that we lost some of them because music piracy online just destroyed interest in trying to mainstream the underground. How did anyone hear Metallica in 88? People went out of their way to find it. You got lazy and didn’t even realise how much harder it was during the tapes and LP era.

@ZoeandZacsDad 3 ай бұрын

Napster turned into Spotify and no artist nowadays is getting rich from record sales ,Lars was absolutely right.

@briandarlage9815 3 ай бұрын

Most artist never made money off of record sales. They made money off of touring. Freaking TLC sold around 2-3 million records for an album and their label sued them saying they lost money. Lol.

@guanak1486 3 ай бұрын

Dope😂😂😂😂😂WTF bro, really?? That’s just the presentation/facade that it’s put out as a premise for FOMO, the ones that get rich now even more than in the past continue to be the record labels, producers and sh1t, artists have and always will make money off of concerts and merchandise and sh1t like this not disk sales even though were pennies on the dollar it was just a bit more than what they get now but still, no one is stealing from them but record labels!!!!

@Bayley4ever 3 ай бұрын

@@briandarlage9815 The record industry is corrupt. They sign deals with musicians and take the largest percentage of the sales. The artist gets like 10 cents per record sold. Artist did make money when they got better deals. But, now they don't get the same sales royalties, so they don't make as much as they did. Now, yeah they make more off of tours and merch.

@member57 3 ай бұрын

It's not because of Napster, look up "works for hire" and when it was added to copyright law.

@member57 3 ай бұрын

@@Bayley4ever Yep, "works for hire" added to copyright law means that very few new artists own their collective works anymore.

@mrcodyjmiller 3 ай бұрын

And now Dave won’t do autographs because people will sell it. How far he’s come.

@MrGallade475 2 ай бұрын

not exactly a hypocritical thing to do but ok. I wouldn't wanna sign shit for someone either in this shitty flip culture we live in if I knew they were just gonna hock it instead of actually thinking I'm cool and wanting my autograph to keep and appreciate.

@lukedodson3441 2 ай бұрын

He would sign if people didn't sell the autographs. He's actually the same.

@DMac1712 2 ай бұрын

Would you sign autographs if you knew that that person was just going to sell it? Give them a free payday just for your kindness?

@publius9350 2 ай бұрын

Lulz. Imagine signing a bunch of photographs for a dude showing up when your plane lands and people bitching if you don't. Praise this DC area high school dropout. screw you for bitching.

@mleone77 2 ай бұрын

@@lukedodson3441 It's very different. Dave doesn't sell his autograph. He just doesn't want to take time out of his life unless it's for a fan.

@kevinmoore5206 3 ай бұрын

Lars was right. He was looking out for you and the younger artists, Davey boy

@Isaiah538 2 ай бұрын

It was easier for Lars to see it being taken away than for Dave, who hadn't got it yet.

@murphmanin 2 ай бұрын

Nah he wasn’t right and most of the artists admit it these days. There was no stopping this and its better for music as a result. The music record execs are the only one that suffered. They’re the ones that should have evolved faster and screwed the artists for not doing so. Instead they opted to sue their biggest fans/customers for trying to obtain music that was just way too expensive to begin with.

@kevinmoore5206 2 ай бұрын

@@murphmanin Ok kid

@murphmanin 2 ай бұрын

@@kevinmoore5206 🥴

@-dugair 2 ай бұрын

@@Isaiah538little Davey boy was a millionaire 3 years before Windows 95 came out. And 8 years before Napster came out. And 5 years after Jethro Tull beat Metallica's ass for the hard rock Grammy! And Davey who's been in two of the biggest bands in the world.. Dave could out drum Little Lars anytime and that's with Dave only using one stick. And the guy saying that Dave killed Taylor. Play Taylor could only afford drugs in South America? With no logic and no common sense. And he's not embarrassed to put for that stupid of an argument... He's stupid enough to vote for trump again. That's why our education system is the laughing stock of the world. Everyone that votes for him should have to take their turn changing his diaper.

@mattmcdowell5225 4 ай бұрын

IT was years ago... But it applies today, and WAY beyond just the music industry

@user-lv6tl1vt6w 4 ай бұрын

They cried bc they needed money?... They were the first... That shit went nowhere.. I'm not arguing with em... They didn't see what was ahead... Do you own the license? If not stfu... If you do then collect

@user-lv6tl1vt6w 4 ай бұрын

Easy peasy... I don't know how things are going is not a defense... Own the masters

@cbartal1 4 ай бұрын

Obviously you're not a golfer

@robertbradburn9616 4 ай бұрын

@@user-lv6tl1vt6wnowhere? Napster,limewire etc all were shut down Metallica is a collection of cry baby pussies

@adammurray365 4 ай бұрын

Metallica was actually right… music industry doesn’t exist. Especially for up and coming rock bands… the market is dead really…

@davidstockdale4187 4 ай бұрын

And now all of these artists are thankful that metallica did what they did.

@dank1j 2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Lars took the heat.

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

What are you talking about. They did nothing, they stopped nothing. No artist is happy to have record producers drag them around by the short and curlys while stealing all their money their art earned. Yall just dumb

@TheSummitCove 3 ай бұрын

lars ended up being right all along

@Nun195 Ай бұрын

He was not right.

@Stevenirons Ай бұрын

@@Nun195 He was 💯 right

@1sonavabitch Ай бұрын

Napster was more about SHARING UNDISCOVERED music that did not have the reach of top bands like Metallica. It wasnt so much about STEALING music. The music quality was subpar if some of these idiots cant remember or did not live in that time. I spent alot of REAL money on albums of artists that I would have never known existed. And btw, this is a fragment of the full interview. It doesnt show him talking about how Napster helped alot of bands that did not have the resources to get their music out to people. Small Bands WANTED you to download their songs. There are alot of ignorant people defending Lars with their stupidity and lack of knowledge about the whole situation.

@jamesphillips7211 3 ай бұрын

Lars was spot on! Sure, you can't stop progress, but the inability to sell your music is/has crushed musicians. It's the principle of the thing, not how much any particular musician might have.

@jasonjewell1667 4 ай бұрын

Lars was not worried about hus money as much as what he seen coming. Lars was right. Artist don't make much at all now with all the platforms paying them pennies. Artists pretty much have lost their control.

@wolff6592 4 ай бұрын

Trust me Lars didn't see that coming no one saw that he was just greedy and didn't like the pennies Napster took from him. Music sharing created a great new trend where old or played out bands from as far back as the 70's got a renewed interest in life for their music was shared in countries otherwise unreachable. Like Henry Rollins from black flag once said. Metallica the greedy bastards could play in any country that had electricity make millions at the time but cried about a few dollars. While system of a down, nine inch nails and others got shafted when Metallica led a greedy horde. Their millionaires for this was before the modern music industry so those who are crying don't freakin know I was there I saw wtf happened f@ck Metallica I burned their records and never listen to them you should too.

@RabidRavenTV 3 ай бұрын

Also, part of the main reason Lars went after Napster was control of his own music/property and Napster sharing a stolen copy of the song "I Disappear" that they were still working on in the studio. It had alternate lyrics because they were still writing and recording it but it was already being spread to millions of people on napster

@FFM0594 3 ай бұрын

As Taylor Swift announces she is now a billionaire.

@jasonjewell1667 3 ай бұрын

@@FFM0594 That is dumb as saying just fo start an LLC and you will be like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk. Not everyone gets a top rated 25 year stadium career. Taylor is the .000001% of musicians. Her ticket sales,investments,endorsements and merch are worth a 100 million times her streaming revenue. Taylor has even fought back against the streaming platforms. I agree with her. If you are going to make millions of artists most of you should go to the artist. How the hell did spotify pay Joe Rogan $100 million if they eid mot get the add revenue while screwing artist. Name 3 songs spotify wrote.

@FFM0594 3 ай бұрын

@@jasonjewell1667 As dumb as it may seem to you, it proves the point that you can still get rich making music.

@noctisambulo7408 3 ай бұрын

Napster allowed me to discover so much more music than I otherwise would have heard.

@duds1916 3 ай бұрын

You just admitted to a crime sir.

@noctisambulo7408 3 ай бұрын

@@duds1916 Johnny Rebel ain't coming after me

@duds1916 3 ай бұрын

@@noctisambulo7408 what was your highest download speed ?? Do you remember? I think mine was like 9kb

@noctisambulo7408 3 ай бұрын

@@duds1916 TBH i don't recall. But 20ish minutes to DL a 3MB .mp3 seems about right lol maybe half an hour

@lennchadful 3 ай бұрын

exactly. in my case, artists made mor emoney. i heard a song, then bought the CD. a lot of the stuff on Napster was horrible quality. you would DL it, hears its trash, and have to DL a different file.

@jdaniel.guitar 2 ай бұрын

Lars was 100% right with hindsight.

@Elijah-Setters Ай бұрын

No he wasn't

@johnpal5112 Ай бұрын

Lars is always right😂😂

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

@@Elijah-Setters Bingo, weird aint it, its gotta be bots dude. I dont normally like saying someone who disagrees is bots but they are flooding this comment section and I refuse to believe people are really this dumb and clueless to not know how Naspter helped artist dramatically.

@treznorNSFW 2 ай бұрын

Lars is right though. and if youre just starting out and you havent sold anything and you cant get off the ground, but they are playing youre stuff for free, your fridge certainly wont be full. its a fight for all of music not just him. its for the future of music. hes got a valid point.

@user-hj2uw9ls9o 4 ай бұрын

Well Dave, those Pennies add up when your song is downloaded hundreds of thousands of times. As an artist, you have every right to protect what is yours.

@Nun195 Ай бұрын

It cost nothing to control c. There is no loss.

@Veganerd_ Ай бұрын

They don't even own their own music, bands have almost always had to sign it away to greedy record execs.

@nicolashrv Ай бұрын

@@Veganerd_ bands signed contracts for specific amount of records....most of them had no rights regarding the record, but they had rights for the music (two different things). The CDs were produced by the companies, not the bands, they didn't invest a cent into recording the albums, so it is logic the band had less control over the rights of an album. (it was explained by Beato regarding the horrific Taylor Swift music....if she wants, she can re-record all her original songs on her previous label, and she will retain full rights of those RECORDINGS, because she was the intellectual owner of her music, but not of the records). This is why most of succesfull bands changed labels or created better contracts after becoming famous, because they could demand better rights for them.

@blachubear 10 күн бұрын

Dave is worth $330 million, so he's good.

@ReinEngel 3 ай бұрын

Napster changed the world, man. It forced the industry to adapt knowing it would die otherwise.

@thomaspaine656 3 ай бұрын

They adapted by charging insane prices for concert tickets

@codyeakinsbradley 3 ай бұрын

It arguably emboldened them and now have pivoted to deals with Spotify to throw in major lable promos. Spotify turned "pay for play" into "pay for promotion or else we'll cut you out of algorithms of people that even follow you"

@braoha123 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaspaine656supply and demand. If you don’t like it, don’t go. Napster was good for music as a whole, there is a lot more music available for everyone to listen to now.

@braoha123 3 ай бұрын

And don’t get me started on record labels. They still try to scam artists even though they can just release their music and own it too.

@SuperEgo19 3 ай бұрын

Napster demonstrates that when someone’s effort is thrown into the public domain and made “free”, you can collapse an entire industry in record time. Music used to be the real cultural compass, and it’s gone forever. Record labels dissolved and countless artists lost opportunities for decades as a direct cause of Napster. Napster is the most communist thing that’s happened in modern history. You want to know what the result of communism is, study Napster. The Telecommunications Act destroyed radio, Napster destroyed the music industry, The Affordable Care Act destroyed healthcare, and now that college is free for a chosen few, the value of a degree has plummeted. I’ve always told my artists friends on the economic left that although dipping your toe in Marxist principles feels good on the way in, at the end, there is no utility an artist can provide to that society. Fulfillment gives way to control and the light is snuffed out…forever.

@pictures_on_silence Ай бұрын

Lars was right...today people think music is free...as a musician i agree with lars on this time

@pictures_on_silence 21 күн бұрын

@@ChristopherGray00 i can't contradict you .100% agree with you

@RNicolasRuvalcaba Ай бұрын

Back in the day I saw Metallica with Dave Mustaine, Slayer and Leatherwolf on the same card for 5 bucks at a no age limit club in Anaheim, CA. The 80's were good.

@elel9640 3 ай бұрын

Imagine being a kid in the 80s and the music industry trying to say who you could share your mix tapes with😂

@martinblank1484 3 ай бұрын

they did say that and added a tax to blank tapes.

@jaimergonzalezh 3 ай бұрын

It is not the same. You can not share 1 million mixed tapes practically for free.

@martinblank1484 3 ай бұрын

@@jaimergonzalezh Every tape...EVERY TAPE was taxed extra and in most countries. And CDs and other media. Yes it's not the same...it's worse.

@martinblank1484 3 ай бұрын

@@jaimergonzalezh Here, read this and look at the list...it's nuts! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy

@ClockworkGearhead 3 ай бұрын

@@jaimergonzalezh That's not what they argued, though.

@kimmywimmy7305 4 ай бұрын

I used Napster for things I was never going to buy as a college student. I did buy CDs of the bands and songs that I really I loved.

@cliffyknight 4 ай бұрын

Same here. I downloaded stuff that I would never have paid for, and I also bought plenty of CDs and vinyl of bands I love.

@MrSpooner1985 4 ай бұрын

Ditto. I also downloaded songs/albums i was considering buying to see if they were good, then would buy the album so i got a better sounding version of the song/s.

@kylerstorm9260 3 ай бұрын

yep. i remember his era. bands pretty routinely put one or two good songs per album and the rest of generally garbage. that’s why streaming became popular, people were tired of paying $14.99 for one good song. if a band was good and the album was good, plenty of fans shelled out cash to support them.

@frankthespank 3 ай бұрын

Exactly! You think I was going to pay $17 for a copy of re-Load?! It was bad enough I paid for Load! I became a fan of Metallica in the first place when I bought a pirated cassette version of “…And Justice For All” at a flea market for $3. Then after that I went to Tower Records and bought every legitimate copy of every single one of their albums on cassette as soon as I got enough money as a kid and then all over on CD and these mofo’s want to say I’m “stealing” from them when I download a demo of one of their songs or a God awful whole album of their greatest sell-out hits? What a bunch of un-cool rich greedy idiots is what they looked like.

@Xplora213 3 ай бұрын

Never going to buy? But you wanted to have it anyway? A car thief never intended on buying it either. You’ve tried to convince yourself that this is ok, but you missed the part where everyone did it, and the music industry is dead now. You did that.

@turdbooger6051 2 ай бұрын

Lars was right. AI is the final death knell for working/gigging musicians.

@Skycladatdusk78 2 ай бұрын

I've always been team Lars on this argument. This lead to the collapse of record sales and bands only making money on tour and why tickets and t shirts cost what they now do.

@Aevilbeast 2 ай бұрын

That's 100% wrong and just an excuse the music exes came up with to explain away their crazy extortionate prices...If anything Napster started the whole digital music scene and brought more money into the music industry than anything in the past 50 years. Just think how much money they make from things Itunes, streaming, ect. and it was a kickstarted by file-sharing programs like Napster. It got people learning about digital music and showed great and convenient it was and more importantly, it got people hooked on it. Also think of how it increased the potential audiences since people were able to discover bands/music they might not have if they had to pay, that they are now more than hhappy to support by buying there music/merch, going to there concerts, ect. The reason ticket prices and shirts cost so much is down to greed, inflation, and the simple fact that people are willingly paying despite how crazy expensive it is. Why wouldn't they charge more if they can get away with it? Unless people stop supporting them and giving them their money, NOTHING will ever change.

@ianwakers Ай бұрын

@@Aevilbeast They make practically nothing from streaming. Your entire post is wrong. 1 billion plays gets you 45k. That was Snoop Dogg, who also owns his own label. So the profit isn't going to the labels either. That's 0.000045 cents per stream. If someone's song is streamed ten thousand times, they make 4 dollars.

@Aevilbeast Ай бұрын

@@ianwakers But here's the thing, if streaming didn't exist do you think those people who stream music would've bought the songs/album to listen to them? Maybe some, but no where near all of them. So streaming is making them money that they would've other wise not made. So while it may not seem like a lot, at the end of the day it's another revenue stream that is still money they are making consistently, with to no effort on there part. The digital age is upon us whether or not we like it. Streaming content, whether music/movies/ect. was inevitable, and not something that was going to stop. Instead of uselessly trying to fighting it, wasting valuble time & money, artists need to learn to properly us it and benefit from it. It's similar to what happened when the radio and records became popular artists were afriad they were losing money because people could now listen to their music at will, and the artists who tried to stop it or refused to cooperate were the ones you lost out, but the ones who evolved and took advantage were the ones who not only survived but thrived. Streaming is NOT their enemy, and isn't something that's losing them money, it's that they aren't willing or don't know how to adapt and capitalize on it. The customer makes the market, if they aren't willing to pay for music and want to stream, then it's on the artist to find ways to adapt. it's not on us, the customer, to worry about how or how much money they make.

@nicolashrv Ай бұрын

@@Aevilbeast dude, the money goes ALL to Spotify.......you don't get it. Spotify only cares people USE their application. But they don't care what they listen, as long they are connected. This means the cake has to divide in 1 million pieces from each customer. Before, if you liked Metallica, you spent your $$$ on Metallica. And if you liked Eternal Champion, you go and buy Eternal Champion's album..........but how does Eternal Champion competes in the Spotify pool?? It is IMPOSSIBLE for any new band to be noticed today. You have to share space with 1 million bands, all making 10.000 songs every 10hs.... Today more $$$ goes to the "music industry" but LESS money goes to the musicians.

@nicolashrv Ай бұрын

@@Aevilbeast and regarding your second post, YES, people will still be listened, because you still have to SHARE your music with someone, who will share it to someone, and who will share it with someone.........today is THE SAME.......difference is now you have to either do it the old way, mouth to mouth (or link to link so to speak), or get into the spotify pool and basically WASTE your investment because almost no one will listen your new album. One thing is to use YT as a promotional tool, and other is YT as the selling tool.....it's two different things.

@timmyo778 4 ай бұрын

I’ve practically rebought my music collection like 4 times over through the years.

@rebeccabollinger7750 3 ай бұрын

Just stick to vinyl. ❤

@brigittescott2438 3 ай бұрын

Yeah technology has evolved. In the 80’s you listened to music on a Walkman you were cool… now basically everyone has music in their pocket on a phone. I remember seeing my first cellphone in 1998

@randal1633 3 ай бұрын

Twice over for me. Good ol Columbia house got me started lol

@FatalChaz33 3 ай бұрын

It's your own fault. If an artist tells me illegally downloading is good I would be a fool to pay for it. So are you.

@brigittescott2438 3 ай бұрын

@@FatalChaz33 we invented pirate copies mate!

@bonechip01 3 ай бұрын

Lars was right. It's the bigger picture.

@Naindurth 3 ай бұрын

gotta give it to him, he saw it

@Kalivermore925 3 ай бұрын

Yeah but now all artists put their music on youtube for free

@jturquoise 3 ай бұрын

Exactly Right as rain.

@calciferblack2409 3 ай бұрын

@@Kalivermore925 They're paid in ad revenue.

@Sonic-gy7kq 3 ай бұрын

@@Kalivermore925which they control. They say now that it was about how they choose to release stuff. Not allowing someone else to release their stuff for them. Which was happening, stuff getting leaked before the band could release it themselves.

@slowraceultra 2 ай бұрын

Lars helped save the music industry.

@andrewfrey5562 3 ай бұрын

Downloading songs and chatting on aim with my friends in middle school was such a great time

@TaxinGigs 2 ай бұрын

Dude.....

@vegasgone07-dh4lb 4 ай бұрын

It's not about money it's about copyrights and control of release.

@Hurtz2Pee123 4 ай бұрын

.....it's about copyright and control of when and how to make MONEY lol.

@CaughtCrazy 4 ай бұрын

It's always and all about the money

@vegasgone07-dh4lb 4 ай бұрын

@@CaughtCrazy copyrights and control of release comes before money. Giving away free music would be stupid if you didn't get paid.

@Hurtz2Pee123 3 ай бұрын

@inspectremagna agreed

@bcg6760 3 ай бұрын

Which is also geh. Make art, put it out, end of story, anything that happens after that is pompous bitching.

@williamkatzer7824 4 ай бұрын

What pisses me off are ticket prices for concerts these days.

@bostaup6253 4 ай бұрын

Fake concerts at that!!

@eoghanbyrne9555 4 ай бұрын

€127 to see pearl jam in dublin, they haven't been here since 2010, soooo go fuck yourself pearl jam

@billybeck 4 ай бұрын

Now is the opportunity to go see bands in halls and theatres, pubs and clubs. Buy a cd or record, a t shirt and a load of drinks, and still have a load of money in your pocket compared to going to the arenas and stadiums

@1sttvbn 4 ай бұрын

The extra fees……

@theoneandonly4577 4 ай бұрын

Taylor Swift… 2000 bucks. Easy….

@JPibbs2198 3 ай бұрын

Lars was right. Lots of folks didnt like that it was coming from a multimillionaire but looking back idk how you can say download and streaming culture didnt hurt musicians. And now concerts and merch are more expensive to compensate.

@blindhol 3 ай бұрын

Oh so you think they would have keep the prices low if they were making enough on album? Unlikely. Everybody is out for all they can get. The ticket monopoly is basically scalping their tickets now. The venues have signed contracts with the ticket companies.

@mikal Ай бұрын

And now nobody can sell albums anymore because it's all free. Thanks, Dave!

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

People are selling more than ever, perhaps your music is just ass

@friday13michael 3 ай бұрын

And now Spotify charges listeners and doesn’t pay musicians. Boy, great job everyone.

@stilwelljoshwa 3 ай бұрын

The thanks goes to metallatarda for that.

@Gendo3s2k 3 ай бұрын

... Really??

@PackOProofPudding 3 ай бұрын

@Gendo3s2k No Spotify does indeed pay musicians based on how much people listen to their songs. Dude Is lying out his ass.

@kirksta123 3 ай бұрын

@@PackOProofPuddinglook at how much musicians receive for a stream

@TinoSoto 3 ай бұрын

@@kirksta123how much?

@krt88nc 4 ай бұрын

Wonder if he feels the same way today considering how badly artist get screwed by the industry over streaming?

@TheSuziemojo 4 ай бұрын

I guarantee he doesn’t feel the same way as he did in this interview LOL hypocrite

@ANTIStraussian 4 ай бұрын

get exposure on Napster/soundcloud/ youtube then make 10 million with a tour. The music studio already stole your record sales anyways 😂

@krt88nc 3 ай бұрын

@@ANTIStraussian and of that $10 million, 4 million goes to lawyers, 3 million goes to cost of touring, fuels, truck, bus and equipment rental, 1 million goes to ancillary costs, 2 goes to the band and their staff.

@ANTIStraussian 3 ай бұрын

@@krt88nc nope your numbers aren't correct. Touring has the highest return to the musician of any revenue stream. Ask post malon if he likes how sound cloud made him famous overnight or if he would have preferred to be found by a talent scout, got an agent, signed a deal and put out an album

@krt88nc 3 ай бұрын

@@ANTIStraussian lol, ok

@k1ngN0rk 2 ай бұрын

Napster, eMule, mIRC, MSN Messenger, Winamp, Nero Burning ROM... Man those were the days... 🥲

@LittleJohnaton Ай бұрын

eMule!! i havent seen that name in about 20 years hahah

@flanaj2 2 ай бұрын

Dave Grohl is a massive hypocrite. He tried suing WCW for using a rip-off of their song for a wrestler.

@mztweety1374 4 ай бұрын

To me, lars and Prince are right… it’s about permission…the ones who wrote the songs should have a say in it. It’s like owning your masters. I cannot stand hearing my favorite old school songs pushing credit cards and pasta sauces. corporate is selling artists music for commercials and it’s insulting and cringe af. And as much as I love Dave, I haven’t exactly heard Nirvana push anything on commercials lately have I?

@detroitdiggler2728 3 ай бұрын

That newest Batman movie had "something in the way" pretty heavily playing on its advertising.

@-The-Darkside 3 ай бұрын

Hilarious, most artists sign with record companies and sign away all permissions. If you don't make it that far then you probably aren't making millions anyway.

@Nun195 Ай бұрын

@mztweety1374 Ай бұрын

@@detroitdiggler2728 That song fits perfectly in that scene. I’m talking about commercials.

@notchomomma239 4 ай бұрын

Lars is not cuddly, but he doesn't mix words either. Lars ALWAYS said, "This is to protect the little guy who does have an empty refrigerator while they have the top downloaded song in the country." Either we support our musicians or we don't.

@Blackjackdime 3 ай бұрын

Good point. I see both sides now.

@Grounded_HVC 3 ай бұрын

Fuk em. Half of them went to epstein island. Including the idiot in this video. Dave Growl seems to have something to do with Kurt's death too. I could care less what any of these celebrities have to say anymore.

@commandercorner5575 3 ай бұрын

That was a lie. The little guy was getting far more exposure thanks to Napster. Lars wanted to keep the little guy irrelevant and unheard of.

@tom5028 3 ай бұрын

@@commandercorner5575exposure can't pay bills or put food in the fridge though. If exposure doesn't lead to actual income it's worthless.

@gregoryperez7890 3 ай бұрын

Bands make most of their money from touring and merch the record labels make the money from album sales

@Retro_Fear Ай бұрын

Lars was right all these years later

@m.r.4455 Ай бұрын

But, 20 years later, it turns he was right, defending material records against on-line diffusion. Napster is no longer a problem, but bands can’t sell record anymore and many of them can’t stay on business anymore.

@insomniacbritgaming1632 3 ай бұрын

Its not just band affected, it affected smaller bands

@seditt5146 9 күн бұрын

Smaller bands were held back by the system Lars promoted. Now its dying and independent artist canb actually make money instead of being exploited even if they did make it. WTF, we are like 20 years past this crap and the data is clear. No one was hurt by it but the terrible people who exploited children and young adults into getting them to sign their life away and even they barely got touched. Either yall are bots or stupid I cant tell really

@caw1337 3 ай бұрын

I downloaded everything back when I was a kid, I had 20 bucks a week...Now that I can afford it I own pretty much all my favorite albums on vinyl.

@donaldhammond627 3 ай бұрын

Yep… this

@krissieserra-allen5263 4 ай бұрын

Napster WAS indeed taking money away from the smaller bands that’s what Lars was REALLY making his statement about! He was NOT standing up for Metallica, if you ever bothered to really listen to his words, BUT was indeed standing for the smaller bands that got ripped off. LARS THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR US! You still catching fire from idiots for it….

@ANTIStraussian 4 ай бұрын

Wrong get exposure on Napster/soundcloud/ youtube then make 10 million with a tour. The music studio already stole your record sales anyways 😂

@michaels.9894 3 ай бұрын

Dawg he aint gonna see this

@onewarriornation602 3 ай бұрын

@@ANTIStraussianTell us you're clueless about the music industry without telling us.

@DougBull-jo9vc 3 ай бұрын

Lars and rest of Metallica don't give a shit about anyone but themselves they are scumbags.Right after kurt died they were mocking her live on stage they also talked shit after layne Staley died

@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын

Dude is talking about exposure on Napster like it automatically made you a millionaire. If someone gets your music for free, do you really think they will go out of their way to spend money to see you? Some will, most won’t. Exposure doesn’t pay bills.

@thename5069 3 ай бұрын

Little did we know, lars was fighting the good fight.

@jaylinsa 3 ай бұрын

It was the right message, but everyone shot the messenger

@-The-Darkside 3 ай бұрын

No he wasn't. Hes made more money in the last twenty years than all his previous years combined. And he's on Spotify 😂

@thename5069 3 ай бұрын

@@-The-Darkside so you just hate people for having more than you? Bro thats some small dick behavior

@carlosrobles5591 2 ай бұрын

@@-The-Darkside Yeah, Metallica didn't need the money, the next generation of musicians needed it, and now here we are with rock music being dead. Lars was right.

@ShrinkRaptor 3 ай бұрын

Um, no sorry Dave. You seem to forget HOW he got that money in the first place. He was making a statement for a lot of musicians, not just himself.

@justinanderson3241 3 ай бұрын

My freshman year of college (2005) I was living in the dorms. This was waaay before Spotify or streaming. Everyone had iTunes. And this kid in the dorms showed me this program that would show every single person in the entire building iTunes, and you could download any song that anyone had. So you could literally acess 700+ student's music libraries. It was insane. I had something like 3,000+ songs. It doesn't sound that cool now with all the streaming services we have, but back in 2005 that shit was GOLD.

@ev0lution187 3 ай бұрын

MyTunes, it was a glorious time

@MrCmendenhall83 3 ай бұрын

Limewire bruh

@Flyhightreklow 3 ай бұрын

Yes! MyTunes! I was also a freshman in college in 2005 and used the same program!

@J-Mac8 3 ай бұрын

@@MrCmendenhall83limewire was full of viruses 🦠 🦠🦠🦠🦠

@didamnesia3575 3 ай бұрын

It is still awesome to own your own movies/music copies

@glenseivers8318 4 ай бұрын

Lars was right and still no one acknowledges it

@jojop6387 4 ай бұрын

Not really, the people that used Napster were actually way more likely to buy the cds they downloaded and even a bunch of official merchandise. It was a way of getting more people to potentially hear your music without the barrier of entry that was the initial investment of a cd that you might not like.

@andrewolson6731 4 ай бұрын

No…really

@Ave_Satana666 4 ай бұрын

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@Ave_Satana666 4 ай бұрын

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@Ave_Satana666 4 ай бұрын

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@jjones1287 2 ай бұрын

And everyone keeps talking about mix tapes… that was different … either that was underground music or music that someone bought and put on a tape and passed around…. NOTHING like Napster and what we have today … no one can afford to see the shows anymore cause they went from $30 -$50 to $100 -$500 and that’s just if you want normal seats most artists sell extra packages to supplement for thousands of dollars

@Beezie23 4 ай бұрын

I don't see foo fighters giving their music away for free. Just saying.

@tylerattwood9392 4 ай бұрын

They don't give it away for free, bit they don't bitch about their music being pirated

@illuminati5160 3 ай бұрын

Their music gets illegally downloaded just like everyone else wtf are you talking about?

@strafer8764 3 ай бұрын

@@tylerattwood9392 maybe he’s a pacifist

@murph4100 3 ай бұрын

Because nobody wants it

@jesses5465 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if Dave still feels the same way! I would love if someone showed him this clip.

3 ай бұрын

Grohl has never been too bright

@steveredenbaugh9058 3 ай бұрын

Dave Grohl and his shitty band are WAY over rated... actually they really Suck...

@emuhunter1 3 ай бұрын

I all but guarantee that his perspective has changed. As much of an ass as Lars is, he was absolutely right I think: illegal streaming led to the music industry being where it is now.

@jesses5465 3 ай бұрын

@@emuhunter1 I agree and disagree, I feel it definitely played a part but I also feel to a degree if I remember correctly, CD prices were skyrocketing.

@emuhunter1 3 ай бұрын

Definitely true. I'd have to look at reliable sources to verify but as I remember off the top of my head there was a downturn so to speak in the record industry circa mid-90s and as a way to recoup some of that, CD prices went up. I should rephrase my earlier statement: it wasn't like Napster by itself killed the music industry. It definitely sped things though from my recollection.

@1BillyPeterson 3 ай бұрын

And this was before he made it to Wembley Stadium. LEGEND

@airchristus Ай бұрын

I wonder how Dave feels in 2024 with Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music....

@blachubear 10 күн бұрын

Dave is worth $330 million so he's good.

@Weld_in 3 ай бұрын

They were actually correct. It was about ownership of their music. Something most modern artists don’t have.

@rickdavis32 3 ай бұрын

He's makes their case, but explicitly states when it's about metall8cas pennies it's kindof a fuck you scenario. But when it's the small guy it's get music there better and lose money or lose that avenue!

@modest_mind2526 3 ай бұрын

Right, because this whole Napster thing is happening today.

@Weld_in 3 ай бұрын

@@modest_mind2526 the effects of it are, absolutely. good puppy.

@solaradam7470 3 ай бұрын

they actually are sell outs with fanboys

@6thUser 3 ай бұрын

Really sad how short-sighted Dave was. Lars was absolutely on point, for the thousands of bands who couldn't make ends meet. And the tech and industry changed quickly, from file sharing to streaming, but musicians are left with breadcrumbs. And today, even established bands are struggling because only way they ( they as in the band and all production team) can make a living is by touring which has gone incredible expensive it's almost impossible. And little bands don't stand a chance. That's why there are no new great bands, because eventually they have to get a day job to support their families.

@Lamtitude 3 ай бұрын

wtf are you talking about? Small bands have the greatest opportunity of all time to reach millions of people right here on KZfaq. There is no excuse for not making it if you have talent and music that people will like.

@buzzfightbeer8023 3 ай бұрын

@@Lamtitude if you think a band's earning potential, at the beginning or the middle of their careers, hasn't been vastly reduced due to streaming services and a lack album sales, you really shouldn't be commenting. This is established fact for the industry as a whole. Now, do some bands get exposure that never would have before(like The Warning, Polyphia, etc)? Asolutely, and that is great. But that is mutually exclusive to the point about streaming. Why do you think so many old bands are touring until they are in their graves now? Why do you think tickets to any well-known band are hundreds of dollars? That was not a thing until streaming and P2P services came along. This does not mean that all of these people praising Dave are wrong though. At the time, it was only huge bands that were being shared on Napster(and Limewire, and Kazaa). So his comments at the time were true. But I bet if you asked him today, now that he has toured with well-established bands that are struggling financially, he may have a different response in the streaming age.

@uzi978 3 ай бұрын

you're so wrong, artists have a much better chance promoting themselves online vs signing a terrible record company contract.

@rphntw1n 3 ай бұрын

Big facts. Dave Grohl is a POSER!

@Allison_Chaynes Ай бұрын

Lars was right. Not only was he right, but if he didn't speak up I think that would be worse. It's better when the big bands put their support behind something like this. There are many people that wish they fought harder with Lars.

@OntarioRob 2 ай бұрын

Dave's in the business for the right reasons

@drcuda71 3 ай бұрын

They were 100% correct about Napster

@thedethrocker8858 3 ай бұрын

Yep .....everyone seems to forget that

@davidtuttle7556 3 ай бұрын

Napster is theft. Period.

@sbentsen2714 3 ай бұрын

@@davidtuttle7556yup, and ppl still act like the cool kids who don't give a shit and get upset when "the authority" takes away their fun and their free music they're not paying for.

@Dinkbass 3 ай бұрын

Found the gathering of the cucks!

@dannelson6980 3 ай бұрын

@@davidtuttle7556 I put my entire catalog on Napster and the catalog of few friends labels and bands as well. Napster was the best way to discover new music, nothing has ever been close. The major labels attacked it because it leveled the playing field. Killing Napster was simply restraint of trade. It could have been changed to a pay model that was so cheap it would not have been worth stealing the music. The distribution cost with Napster had dropped to $800 a year for a entire label. The bands and indy labels would have made more money. But there would have been little reason for the major labels to exist.

@user-hj2uw9ls9o 4 ай бұрын

Well Dave, I don’t want to pay $3-$400 for nosebleed tickets to your concert.

@neart2810 3 ай бұрын

He doesnt set ticket prices go blame the the ticket sites for letting scalpers in

@jeremyviromek 3 ай бұрын

yea Dave

@cameronpritchett8300 3 ай бұрын

😂

@kurtismillard955 3 ай бұрын

They don't make the prices the venue and management does

@Vonlicktenstien 3 ай бұрын

I’d pay $3 for sure

@kencoakley8366 Ай бұрын

I'm from the same culture as Lars and James. I started listening to Metallica in 1983, when I bought Kill 'Em All. Until 1990, I was part of the Boston Thrash Metal scene. My friends and I would get audio and video bootlegs of the Big 4 as well as German and Canadian bands, whether they be live tapes or demos. When Lars started criticizing Napster or any downloading, I knew that he would be exposed as a hypocrite because he was from the same tape trading culture that I came from. I saw him in a Documentary called "Murder In The Front Row", which was about the San Francisco Thrash scene, and Lars went on about how he had more demos than everyone else. That's getting music without paying for it. I saw James on Joe Rogan's podcast, complaining about illegal downloading. I don't think he got the memo saying that people are streaming now. I also saw him in a Documentary about Metallica, talking about hanging out at Lars' house, recording all of Lars' albums to,a bunch of cassettes. That sounds like hypocrisy to me.

@arianprofit 3 ай бұрын

Dave was young. Now that he sees smaller bands and the whole industry changed, je sees what Lars was doing. Not being selfish

@mysteryshrimp 3 ай бұрын

Lars wasn't bitching because of money. The song that was at issue was unreleased and unfinished. An artist should be in control of when their work is ready to release.

@jaimevelasco7957 Ай бұрын

Then he should have fucked with record companies not peer to peer file sharing. I think he was very much bitching about money. Cheers

@hooner52 3 ай бұрын

Lars was just the one who stood up for the little guy.

@funfromabove9728 3 ай бұрын

The little CEO

@andyfigueroa9599 3 ай бұрын

I see what you did there.😂

@ccink3931 3 ай бұрын

@@funfromabove9728ya someone call the FBI there is a guy here who wanted to be paid for his work!?!? 🤦‍♂️

@uberhaxorzskelletor 3 ай бұрын

@@ccink3931Lars is a hypocrite because he too listened to pirated music and most music wouldn't be financially viable to sell unless they get pushed by a radio or a lot of people listen to it so in most cases stuff like this is a positive for the artist in the long run because they have a bigger customer base that will pay to see them or just support them especially now with stuff like paypal. Don't act like Lars is doing this for the artists starting out or who aren't as big as Metallica

@barefootandindependent 3 ай бұрын

Lars is a little guy.

@tomstorm2963 Ай бұрын

It's pretty awesome to see all the comments that are saying that Lars was right.

@ShaneVanD79 2 ай бұрын

And we don’t want to go to a concert that costs us an entire paycheck just to get in yet here we are!

@Dr.Vincent_D_Gilmer 3 ай бұрын

In the early 2000s, Lars Ulrich, the drummer of Metallica, found himself at the center of a controversy that shook the music industry to its core. It all began when Metallica discovered that their songs were being freely distributed on a then-popular file-sharing platform called Napster. Furious at the prospect of their hard work being shared without permission, Lars took a bold stance against Napster and its users. In interviews and public statements, he passionately voiced his concerns about the impact of music piracy on artists' livelihoods. Lars wasn't just complaining about money; he was fighting for the rights of musicians everywhere to be fairly compensated for their work. He argued that Napster's free distribution model devalued music and undermined the creative efforts of artists who relied on album sales and royalties to make a living. Despite facing backlash from some fans and critics who saw Metallica's stance as out of touch with the digital age, Lars remained steadfast in his belief that artists deserved to be paid for their music. His outspoken advocacy ultimately led to legal battles and changes in the way the music industry approached digital distribution and copyright protection. While the Napster saga may have been a tumultuous chapter in Metallica's career, it also highlighted the importance of standing up for what you believe in, even in the face of controversy. And for Lars Ulrich, it was never just about the money-it was about protecting the integrity of the music and the livelihoods of the artists who create it.

@NicholasBennettC 3 ай бұрын

When i was a kid i download every Metallica song. I've since paid to see them in concert multiple times and bought a lot of their stuff on vinyl when i COULD just listen to it on Spotify

@kenon6968 2 ай бұрын

Well they both got what they wished for, Lars can put all his stuff on Spotify and get paid fractions of a penny and Dave can rest assured that every single one of his songs is available free online

@user-eq3xq4zx1u Ай бұрын

Well said, Dave. Another reason I love Dave Grohl. He's awesome.😅

@kylenigro5850 4 ай бұрын

If you're an artist and someone pirate's something you've created or helped create you have every right to be pissed off and do something about it. If you think it's no big deal I'd say you pour your heart and soul into something just for someone to come and claim it, see how you feel afterwards.

@gingerjammer22 4 ай бұрын

I mean...he was the drummer for Nirvana and lead singer of the Foo Fighters so I feel like he knows what he's talking about

@kylenigro5850 4 ай бұрын

@@gingerjammer22 You don't think Lars Urlich knows what he's talking about? Plus if Dave Grohl put out a new Foo Fighters album today and some website was allowing people to pirate the album, I'm pretty sure he'd be singing a different tune now (pun intended). The thing about when Lars Urlich sued Napster, it didn't sit well with a lot of rock/metal artist who were anti-establishment. Little did they know he was protecting all past/present/and future artist from essentially getting robbed. You purchase an album from a band its a licensing agreement that in exchange for money you and you alone own that album and have the right to play it any way you see fit, but you don't have the right to redistribute it and you don't have the right to profit from it unless in accordance with fair use laws. So a reaction channel can listen to and record their reaction to a song or songs, but they can't just repost and profit from a song.

@brettwest4664 4 ай бұрын

You do realize album sales are one of the lowest forms of income for artists right?

@kylenigro5850 4 ай бұрын

@@brettwest4664 depends on the artist I'd say, and income is income. I know I wouldn't like it if someone was potentially costing me money. Nobody likes having other people going into their wallet taking they're cash.

@brettwest4664 4 ай бұрын

@@kylenigro5850 you'd be wrong

@davidwollpert5276 3 ай бұрын

It’s not about pennies, it’s about the pay structure of the industry. So for all of you fools who are complaining about the price of concert tickets, it’s partially because you stole all of the songs through Napster, so concerts are band’s only source of revenue now. You’ve no one but yourselves to blame, you were so eager to get free music!!! Look in the mirror next time you want to complain about ticket prices!

@hw2508 Ай бұрын

Napster is dead. When Apple took over, and then Spotify, the problem was that this legal platforms don't gave / give enough money to the artists. Or only to a few artists. That concerts are that expensive: 1st depends on the band. 2nd is in the hand of the customer. Just don't buy the expensive pop artist tickets. But too many people want the expensive show and not the simple but good music show.

@davidwollpert5276 Ай бұрын

@@hw2508 obviously Napster is dead, I was speaking in past tense. And Napster set the stage for everybody continuing to want free music, instead of buying it. Now it has evolved into the “all you can eat” streaming services where bands get next to nothing and fans get any and all music they want for a small monthly fee. And then fans want to complain about the price of concert tickets. Maybe quit stealing band’s music and you can have reasonable ticket prices.

@J450N26 Ай бұрын

Such a stupid comment, online music streaming would came sooner or later

@davidwollpert5276 Ай бұрын

@@J450N26 of course it would have. Nobody has said it wouldn’t have. But if the public hadn’t developed a taste for free music from thieves like Napster it could have been developed at fair prices, so your favorites bands might still have record contracts, and concert tickets would be fair prices. Do you know how many successful bands have lost their record contracts because they couldn’t sell enough records, because everybody is listening to their music basically for free online. If the pay structure was different bands could still have recording contracts. It’s called supporting the artist that you like, so they can continue to make the music you like, you short sighted mutton head.

@hw2508 Ай бұрын

@@davidwollpert5276 do you really think tickets would be cheap if streaming would bring in more money? I think the big artists would take the additional money. And the smaller artists have to fight for a reasonable income and for 'customers' anyways. They are not able to dictate the prices. Yes, more money from streaming would make life easier for smaller artists, but that does not mean they would lower ticket prices. It is a whole new business to make profit with a tour. Take the risk etc.

@user-yv1ob8og6h 2 ай бұрын

I downloaded 5 songs on Napster back in the day… 2 of them were incomplete… 20 years later I spent thousands of dollars on Bon Jovi just cause I got to listen to it’s my life for free every day… thanks Napster… today KZfaq is doing that job legally

@PauloVaRod 2 ай бұрын

You’ve always been the best Dave !!!

@scottgordin9709 4 ай бұрын

Lars was right, we were all mad and bashing him, but he was right

@Eiraart 4 ай бұрын

That didn’t age well. Streaming has destroyed income for the smaller artists who could’ve had a shot at a career if people still bought artists work

@gizzit2712 4 ай бұрын

Except there is an Insanely higher amounts of small artists then there has ever and I mean EVER been due to things like youtube/streaming. The problem with an over saturated market it, is you generally have to be the best to rise up to the top and you still will need a factor of luck.

@matthewreichlin4993 4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Easy for him to say, he's already made it.

@jackd2083 4 ай бұрын

It’s far easier for a new/small act to get noticed. They need to make their money doing shows and selling merchandise not cd’s though.

@basskick666 4 ай бұрын

Record a good song...press it on vinyl...it WILL sell and you WILL make money. Never been easier.

@Rusmiester 4 ай бұрын

The music industry has changed where live gigs are the bigger part of income for artists. You want to defend the artists then target the labels who take the majority of the profit for every single and album sold, push the price up for their own gain which fuels people to think £20, nah, I will just download it for nothing

@mr.pringle8466 3 ай бұрын

There is 100% a difference between a musician and an artist.

@Planet_Caravan_94 Ай бұрын

Lars was right, fuck ya Dave. It's not about the money or the amount but who's in control

@nrtg6290 3 ай бұрын

Those were the days man

@stephenbarbieri3269 3 ай бұрын

At the end of the day Lars was right. Artists don't earn shit from streaming

@Deltron37 3 ай бұрын

Right/wrong? Dont matter. It would have been this way regardless. The music industry has always fucked the musician. They would have found a way to this point no matter what. At least this let the customer get a leg up for a min before it went to hell.

@CadillacJak 3 ай бұрын

This is why you don't sign record bills and you own your masters independent artists Today, make millions of dollars a year

@M0RGAT0RY 3 ай бұрын

If you signed a contract, you don't own your music till 20 years passes@@CadillacJak

@rontronimous 3 ай бұрын

@@M0RGAT0RY That's the point, most artists are on to the game now, there isn't a contract like that as you don't need the label for distribution anymore.

@AnneHathawayRules 3 ай бұрын

This comment is talking about more than the music industry. There are people who receive no money at all from streaming services even though they acted in or wrote the TV shows or movies. The co-founder of adult swim is an Amazon delivery driver and frylock from aqua teen hunger Force had to wash dishes at a restaurant because he receives no royalties.

@crocco_official Ай бұрын

Back then, I used to think like Dave, but now I realize that there began the end of a healthier and much more valued music and cultural industry. Now, thanks to MP3 and Spotify, music has become disposable, and people don’t value artists and music like they used to. I believe that due to these ‘advances’ and technologies like A.I., we are truly losing value as humans. This is part of a deeper discussion. Now I see that the struggle was much more than just pennies

@rowanmelton7643 3 ай бұрын

20 years later, Lars was right. Streaming has destroyed the music industry. Now tickets are 100s of dollars

@brianbutler501 3 ай бұрын

Someone who can’t afford food in the refrigerator can’t afford the legal fight. Lars Ulrich was not only fighting for himself, but he was also fighting for everyone who couldn’t afford to fight for themselves.

@kaarsty 3 ай бұрын

I remember my dad coming down on me for illegally downloading music. I told him “dad one day this will be the only way to get music” and here we are

@Weoutherewildin 3 ай бұрын

But it’s not.

@gettupp 3 ай бұрын

And it killed Rock... Way to go

@maranon1971 3 ай бұрын

@@gettupp No it didn't

@kyrusinek 3 ай бұрын

@@Weoutherewildin You can still buy CDs, vinyl and .mp3 files. No one really carries a cd or vinyl player around anymore. mp3s are useful as you can keep it on your phone. I think the value of songs has gone down. I dont feel any ownership/pride of an mp3 file and I dont want to carry around a cd player or deal with vinyl. Spotify is a thing but I refuse to pay per month for music. They need some new way to improve the experiance of "owning" music i think.

@Dino-god69 3 ай бұрын

@@gettupp MTV killed Rock 😂❤

@watchlistenlearn Ай бұрын

Dave was still learning at this point

@jimcamp2423 Ай бұрын

I get Lars/Metallica, Grohl needs to realize it's the time portal for the next generation(s) artists/musicians.

@alainorozco8032 4 ай бұрын

More reasons to love Dave Grohl

@Bob-zh7lr 4 ай бұрын

Grohl is a tool.

@nathandosch2503 4 ай бұрын

Doubt he would agree with himself from then, now.

@Animal_Mother 4 ай бұрын

Like the whole monkey sex aids thing?

@turboduckhead6179 4 ай бұрын

Or hate him

@patrickquinn9405 4 ай бұрын

There's an interview he did for Rolling Stone I believe it was, where he says in hindsight, he was wrong and sees now Lars and those who were with him were right as they were waving the red flags on the end of the music business.

@OGCuckleberryfinn 3 ай бұрын

A lot of artists felt that way, Lars just said it. Tons of rappers felt the same

@NotSoLiberal Ай бұрын

Imagine if all the Foo fighters albums had modest sales because the albums show up on Napster first. He wouldn't say the same

@user295295 2 ай бұрын

Beer: good; Napster: bad!

@mixedmartialoddest 3 ай бұрын

Dave not realizing Lars wasn't just fighting for him, he was fighting for everyone including the guys that aren't making 50 million dollars.

@smokeyjayshouse 3 ай бұрын

He wasn't. Thanks to napster I found new small bands heard their music and then if I liked it I would find their custody and buy them.. honestly after napster was gone the little guys didn't have a chance. Lars screwed the little guy. No one is gonna buy a cd of a band they never heard of to see if it's ant good.

@mixedmartialoddest 3 ай бұрын

@@smokeyjayshouse Never heard of Morpheus or Frostwire?

@georgen5882 3 ай бұрын

Yes and how many people went out and bought a CD after already having it for free? Are you really that thick? Maybe you did that but 99% of people were not going to and did not. Lars never said other bands can’t give away music for free. He was fighting for the choice to do it, which they weren’t given with Napster. He was right, people just hate him so much for reasons they can’t even explain and refuse to admit it.

@alexengel6240 3 ай бұрын

CDs weren't even profitable for most bands. That's why merch costs so much on tours. Y'all deadass don't understand the economics of this industry

@mixedmartialoddest 3 ай бұрын

@@alexengel6240 Right. Most of the money from albums sold went back to the record label, which in most cases paid for the recording and advances that it had paid for. The band still needs those sales or the label will just drop them.

@dankdrum5150 4 ай бұрын

I love to dis Lars… but Lars was right on this one…. I think if you asked Dave to revisit this he might agree.

@WaywardBrigand 4 ай бұрын

Lars admitted to pirating his own music. And if you wanna say he owns the music, why'd he have to pirate it to get it?

@boombonic666 3 ай бұрын

Daves got a Ferrari, at this point I doubt he cares.

@Quinn37 3 ай бұрын

And it was just the beginning.

@Quinn37 3 ай бұрын

@@WaywardBrigandHe didn't have to. He used a pirating site.

@TheLegendaryFenix 3 ай бұрын

Lars came out and said he regretted causing the Napster fiasco

@enzyme181 2 ай бұрын

They werent just doung it for Metallica, they were doing it for everyone else who couldnt say anything.

@PeopleLiveAboveMe 2 ай бұрын

If Napster continued unchallenged, it would have eventually affected the bands that needed every penny from sales. As much as we shit on Lars, he did right.