As usual, Snowden gives us practices we can take into our real worlds! In the bin go mindset, mental models, grand strategy, Utopian futures - and out comes the utility of Now.

What happens when the whole field of changeable constraints (left of the counterfactual line) is populated with hexa-complex systems and, given time, the whole field of complex systems rearranges itself to become one energetically optimally rationed oscillatory machine balancing its efficiency and effectiveness - what happens when this field becomes one giant global coherent bee-hive? There is danger of geting: Malkovich sens-making, endless variations of individual stories on a Malkovich theme (or by Malkovich triplets of all ages and professions), Malkovich experimenting, Malkovich experiences, Malkovich visions of the future, Malkovich innovations, Malkovich rearrangements, Malkovich l'art pour l'art, Malkovich-Malkovich of well-being initiatives buzzing all around and endless internal Malkovich-Malkovich monologue flow inside people's heads. Constantly buzzing and dancing, moving the bar of work-time continuum, but ultimately unable to break through the counterfactual line. What happens if/when this global hexa-hive realizes that true (non systematized) incoherence is the way to go forward or the way to simply be, that non-bee is the only guarantor for true (non simulated) emergence?. What if all our emergent properties currently held by our consciousness (emergences of our past life experience on the planet, from protozoa onward) are actually the pinnacle of conscious achievement? What if diligent honey-gathering in The next million years will emerge only the Nothingness, gaping hole inside every atom of our body, loosing spin and hollowing us from the inside out?

This has uncovered some key links for me; deep thanks to all involved. It's a truly confounding space & little wonder several well-meaning approaches run aground hereabouts. Please continue, everyone ! 😺

Thank you for sharing this conversation, I really enjoyed the information Dave gave regarding leadership

Plenty of sensible examples here going way beyond platitudes and debunking daft theories. Very practical.

Where do you draw the line between social engineering and mind control?