LAST BIG EXPLOIT! Avoid The Soviet Civil War!

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No step back added the new reworked Soviet focus tree and with it came new alt history paths all result in a civil war. BUT what if I told you there was a exploit to go down the right right opposition path and keep Stalin incharge AND HAVE NO CIVIL WAR! Brutally broken! Not only that but it includes 0 consumer goods and a load of production bonus's. OP Russia all ready for by blood alone. Putin would be proud!
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Hearts of Iron IV is a grand strategy wargame developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Released on June 6, 2016, it is the sequel to Hearts of Iron III and part of the Hearts of Iron series of grand strategy games focusing on World War II. The player may take control of any nation in the world in either 1936 or 1939 and lead them to victory or defeat against other countries.
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@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

@Kingbustercomments Жыл бұрын

Funny fish game

@CyborgCook Жыл бұрын

Is this time travel?

@franciscosoares2440 Жыл бұрын

@@CyborgCook probably released earlier for members/patreons

@Hjalle_Gaming Жыл бұрын

try to make a video about an exsploit i found. zero consumergoods as germany. you have to go imperial. under the civil war tak total mobelisacion and exstencive conscribsion. after that end the war. the rush "prepare for the next blockade" pared with 100 stab you will have zero comsumergoods

@isimiel3405 Жыл бұрын

Fish are the lowest production cost submarine

@agentwash1 Жыл бұрын

The cursed Timeline where Stalin had a complete total meltdown and plotted against himself then couped himself and put himself back in power

@FalkyRocket2222 Жыл бұрын

the doctors were too scared to take care of his insanity, bet that could happen in any timeline

@GyaruRespecter Жыл бұрын

Ioseph Stalin (Schizo Form)

@EnforcerX71 Жыл бұрын

Red Flood has a similar storyline, just with France.

@Marfius_Au_Marfongus 4 ай бұрын

The ideal timeline

@0ld_Scratch 3 ай бұрын

To be fair this is totally in character

@DoctorAllanGrey Жыл бұрын

you'd think the act of 'just ignore the events to see if they autofire properly' would've been QA'd fairly easily by the first guy to go afk while testing the paranoia but... oops.

@ghost28896 Жыл бұрын

I tried this, but was not able to recreate it. In my case it auto pick the top option (Bukharin) once the time runs out, and the war starts.

@imthedanger557 Жыл бұрын

@@ghost28896 he only posts exploit videos after paradox fixes it

@joelthorstensson2772 Жыл бұрын

@@imthedanger557 that kinda defeats the point?

@robertmowrey2009 Жыл бұрын

QA must click button now

@DKforever24 Жыл бұрын

@@joelthorstensson2772 Feedback explains his reasoning in his first 'infinite tank exploit' video a few months ago.

@notapokemontrainer800 Жыл бұрын

Stuff aside, I think you can actually prevent a civil war without exploits in the right opposition path There's a focus where it gives you a decision that has 50% chance to assassinate Stalin (80% if you get NKVD support), in which Beria then succeeds him After that, the coup d'etat focus would instead replace Beria with Bukharin without needing a civil war Edit: Also, the exploit Feedback used is actually a bug where if you don't click anything on an event pop up, it won't give any effects after the pop up expires. It may work on basically any event, including those in mods, not just the vanilla Soviet Civil War.

@rps215 Жыл бұрын

You have to protect either Yagoda or Yezhov, whoever you manage to befriend. Beriya will never turn to your side.

@tijmenwillard2337 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it sucks

@gabelol9987 Жыл бұрын

so ur saying that it's random if I get a civil war or not?

@gabelol9987 Жыл бұрын

or is it just because he's playing ironman?

@rps215 Жыл бұрын

@@gabelol9987 Not the civil war part but 2 things are RNG. First is who and what Stalin will purge, though you can protect some people at the cost of PP and Stalin's paranoia increase. Purges from "Stalin's Focuses" however cannot be prevented so timer is ticking if you want to save some people (I think Zinoviev and a few others). The second RNG is the result of Stalin assassination plot. You have higher chance if you manage to finish the NKVD focus, but even then it is still RNG and has no guarantee that it will be successful. If you are successful in assassination of Stalin, it doesn't save you from civil war just yet. Beriya still have the paranoia level increase if you do certain things and focuses. However once Stalin is gone, finishing the Coup d'etat focus will result in Beriya getting arrested instead of the civil war and you can get whoever you want (Bukharin, Rykov, or Zinoviev) in power.

@caelphillips8895 Жыл бұрын

4:15 It means that the farmlands were privatley owned but heavily regulated and unionized as to ensure that the workers still had control over the land. If you want to learn more, I'd recommend reading the New Economic Policy. It was originally implemented by Lenin after the Civil war to help stimulate growth and then removed by Stalin (Trotsky supported planned economies as well) in favor of the planned economies which allowed for rapid development of heavy industry.

@Makarosc Жыл бұрын

Market Socialism?

@jaredsheehan480 Жыл бұрын

@@Makarosc State Capitalist actually, at least that's what Lenin called it.

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

More so state capitalism, like modern day China and vietnam

@caelphillips8895 Жыл бұрын

@@Makarosc Long Answer inbound. The TL;DR is not quite. They have differing economic and political frameworks, but similar ideas. Long Answer: Market Socialism still uses the capitalist framework of large private sectors with varying degrees of regulation. The NEP used by the Soviets required a much larger public sector than that of Market Socialism. It's also meant as a temporary solution. It was implemented after the civil war, because Lenin himself recognized that if capitalism is controlled by the working class, it can be used for a swifter recovery than an immediate transition into planned economies. However, Stalin moved away from the NEP and into planned economies because even though the NEP was providing a successful recovery, it was not industrializing fast enough. "We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or they will crush us." - Stalin's 1931 speech "The Tasks of Economic Executives (marx2mao.com/Stalin/TEE31.html). The Third Reich launched Operation Barbarossa in 1941. Ten years after the prediction. Market Socialism also does not require a the proletariat, or any subdivision of the working class, to hold a class dictatorship, whereas the NEP does. Class dictatorship in this sense means which economic class is running the government. In Marxist frameworks it's the working class, where as in capitalist and non-Marxist Socialism, it's the capitalists and "petite bourgeoise".

@Oujouj426 Жыл бұрын

And they should've stuck with it. Stalin and the other tankies left a giant blemish on communist and other far left governing styles.

@RokSzczura Жыл бұрын

When I first saw this I thought "They can't be serious". How could they miss such enormous exploit. This just shows that devs don't test their game and let you do it.

@benismann Жыл бұрын

i actually wonder how tf does it break. It should click the topmost option if the timer runs out, and it doesnt look like a news event (they dont do that), so what tf happens even

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

Apparently some hoi4 events when they aren't clicked just kind of.... expire. Which is weird bc I'm pretty sure eu4 and vicky2 just auto click the top option instead.

@RokSzczura Жыл бұрын

@@x999uuu1 Well, other options in Russian civil war, like tsarists and i think trotskyists don't work the same way. They expire and shit hits the fan.

@benismann Жыл бұрын

@@x999uuu1 ye but i wonder why is that

@gigaus0 Жыл бұрын

@@benismann There's a few way it breaks, but in this case there's no 'default' option, and since no option is triggered, the flag doesn't get set.

@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja Жыл бұрын

It'd actually make more sense to build mils inside a puppet that you are planing to keep as a puppet, as they'll give 75% of their mills and only 25% of their civs.

@sirundying Жыл бұрын

the more that you know.

@leviathansnemesis3742 Жыл бұрын

I've tried this 4 times now and it looks like the Dev's have fixed it.

@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx Жыл бұрын

Me: asking a month ago for Dave to complete Trotsky path without causing 25 world tension, with autonomous soviet republics, comecon and being able to Puppet evryone around you also Japan. Dave: *ask and you shall recieve!*

@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx Жыл бұрын

Actually it doesnt work as far as i m aware. In order to go Long live the workers focus or Permanent revolution you need ciwil war to be over.

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Yep. Hense why I didn't do Trotsky. TRUST ME I tried

@tempejkl Жыл бұрын

@@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx wouldn’t you just end the civil war then? If you get loads of military support you can end it by 1938 and then prepare for Barbarossa.

@floppados Жыл бұрын

00:00 - beggining 18:37 - end

@sansnoob3698 Жыл бұрын

so helpful

@Kingbustercomments Жыл бұрын

fish

@ivorycxxxx Жыл бұрын

Yooo tysm

@GamerFromKZ Жыл бұрын

Ok FeedBack, ok

@hemz5882 Жыл бұрын

OMG TIME TRAVELE1!!1!1!

@nickthegreek_f.t8848 Жыл бұрын

Οκ

@vitorsoriano5440 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@komodo_kuomintang8707 Жыл бұрын

@bad2603 Жыл бұрын

wait how?

@WarlordZsinj Жыл бұрын

Bukharin was a proponent of the New Economic Policy, which was a carefully crafted injection of capitalism and markets into the Soviet Union. Something that Deng would adopt for China later on. Stalin would adopt the collectivization of the farmers instead. Bukharin was considered on the right (within the party) because of this and some of his other thoughts. Also was considered the heir to Lenin until Stalin used him to win support away from Trotsky and Bukharin himself.

@ben9583_ Жыл бұрын

For context about the right opposition, yes, Bukharin supported giving more autonomy to the farmers. During the Russian Civil War, Lenin implemented the "New Economic Policy", which implemented some limited forms of capitalism for farmers. This was because the civil war devastated Russia and agricultural production had plummeted. It actually stuck around until 1928 when Stalin eliminated it. There were powerful figures like Bukharin who thought it should have stayed, until Stalin eliminated them as well.

@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx Жыл бұрын

Stalin Permanent revolution confirmed ? Stir proletariat uprising in neighbouring countries ? Dave you are genius.

@mytiliss682 Жыл бұрын

He becomes the thing he ought to destroy.

@remi609 Жыл бұрын

"Infinite number of frances" As if one wasn't too much...

@Assassi_BG_Gaming Жыл бұрын

doesn’t work on 1.12. Civil war still starts

@OccasusRaven Жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure FBG is actually secretly working with Paradox trying to find exploits.

@thewednesday5893 Жыл бұрын

I heard the kaer morhen theme from the witcher during the sponsor section and i felt so happy

@owenscastlexiii5131 Жыл бұрын

perfect timing for the sponsor to be fishing related

@aisir3725 Жыл бұрын

"We are in the lonely, cold part of the world" *Looks precisely on my hometown*

@jaredsheehan480 Жыл бұрын

This is quite a supreme exploit I must say.

@Ashathefree8 Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, Bukharin wanted to bring back the NEP, and essentially wanted to do what Deng did to China, so to being in limited free market reforms, there prob some differences between them, but I aint interested in doing a deep dive of studying either.

@unbindingfloyd Жыл бұрын

Dont think I didn't hear that NOD "flame tank" audio from C&C lol

@noneofyourbusiness3288 Жыл бұрын

4:05 "We just take the civil war and push it somewhere else."

@neilangelomolleda7283 Жыл бұрын

You could remove some of the malus by doin focuses and not rushing the Civil war. "Seek support from the party" unlocks the focus to get rid of trotskyite plot. And factionlism pp gain can be removed entirely.

@II.Justinian Жыл бұрын

I came here for cheese I found BIG exploit that changes game. FeedBackGaming you never change :)

@bigfish2796 Жыл бұрын

What, thehunter sponsored a hoi4 youtuber. This it the greatest colab in history.

@dylandevries75 2 ай бұрын

I thought the lines in the add in the beginning were cracks in my screen 😂😂

@fuadlabib703 Жыл бұрын

Keep going guys just 99k to go

@ethanstaaf404 Жыл бұрын

In this episode of Feedback Breaks Hoi, Stalin allows political discussion, everyone is unexpectedly happy.

@nomaders2 Жыл бұрын

the most historical game of hoi4

@Lancelot683 Жыл бұрын

So, I requested this from Antasil and I saw this here STATISFIED!

@ezehernandez Жыл бұрын

Amazing i hope i can try it before they fix it, i always go right oppo but this seems faster and saves some advisors

@fidoruh Жыл бұрын

But a part two for this one would be fun.

@electricVGC Жыл бұрын

True Dave feedback gaming moment

@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Жыл бұрын

Manchuria and Inner Mongolia are different enough for it to make since to be releasable

@linzabfb Жыл бұрын

"What I'm gonna do is mine the Atlantic *laughs like cpt Torres*"

@greenmanwithagreenplan904 Жыл бұрын

The fact that you can actually skip the civil war.....

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

Could you do this going down Trotskys path too?

@OverlordMalarkey Жыл бұрын

just casually using Witcher 3 music in your sponsorship haha

@AdiKq Жыл бұрын

Nice. I love that exploit but I think it can be use even more.

@andrewgreenwood9068 2 ай бұрын

4:24 worker cooperative rather than state enterprise. Similar to Yugoslavia under tito.

@NetoKruzer Жыл бұрын

I demand part II... Do it...

@newbornspirit Жыл бұрын

damn dave. you broke it again

@calpster2390 Жыл бұрын

this doesnt work? how do you just avoid the civil war it just automatically fires?

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

It doesn't automatically fire. You have to click a button on the event to make it fire

@calpster2390 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming it does for me every time. Is there any other factors or steps that i have missed?

@subboid Жыл бұрын

Stalin ignored his paranoia for one minute and got overthrown by himself, and then chairs

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Chair world conquest

@notjustiny.6750 Жыл бұрын

Basically the Right Opposition was an anti stalinist movement to return to both the NEP and stop collectivisation, think of modern day chinese economics or yugoslav economics where the state controls a small important aspect but leaves the rest to the market. In Hoi4 this translates to less consumer goods, because state resources are no longer being used for all of management

@vebjrnsannerud6987 Жыл бұрын

would this strategy work if you go the path of romanovs?

@nathanielclaw2694 Жыл бұрын

Is it working with 1.11.13 ?

@Sky4Jus Жыл бұрын

You should play Lithuania. They're focus tree ia actually really decent. You get to annex the entirety of Poland and get all the cores with one easy 70 day focus. Plus you get lots of civs and mills from factories, and avoid war against Germany. It's actually decent.

@yushka1917 Жыл бұрын

Yeah im sure he didn't know that.

@juliansickmann9379 Жыл бұрын

Germany needs a Dlc to buff it I thought maybe a dlc called mittel Europa (central europe) where germany like the soviets gets buffed and gets more decisions and you can upgrade adolf and so on , Austria will be like Poland you have many paths you can choose and you can become very strong and at last Scandinavia will be treated like the Baltics all of them have something in common but also their owen ways

@JadenLightvale Жыл бұрын

Hello ladies and gentlemen it is Feeeeeedback gaminggggg

@LudietHistoria Жыл бұрын

There's always a part 2..... In our hearts

@Teufelshund86 Жыл бұрын

Seems to be fixed :( tried it four times, doesn't work anymore

@919Loki Жыл бұрын

Why are your subs still on "mine laying"? The button is disabled, but they are still on the mission?

@scubandym1941 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@KimFareseed Жыл бұрын

Isn't an event still supposed to go through a defult option, if no button was pressed?

@bekom864 Жыл бұрын

Not this time

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Default option is WORLD PEACE!

@keterpatrol7527 Жыл бұрын

Feedback Gaming after playing the newest patch for 5 seconds:

@Agent-wp3yi 6 ай бұрын

Btw u cant send eq to anybody anymore not even to Spain so no eq sending and stopping the sending to get it again

@sfmtestingstuffz Жыл бұрын

Does this work on 1.11.13?

@Nick-rs5if Жыл бұрын

Should have said: "100 000 likes of 100 000 mines" ;)

@MikeJProto Жыл бұрын

what about the exploit where you can use console commands in ironman mode?

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

NO IM IRONMAN!

@luca7124 10 ай бұрын

Does this still work

@Ashathefree8 Жыл бұрын

Whats so great about setting up collaboration governments? You always use them, I dont use them personally.

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Nations capitulate quickly and get free compliance

@Ashathefree8 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming Im sorry I wasnt clear enough, i mean that one mechanic where the compliance gets high enough you can set up a little puppet state in occupied territory.

@harmless-kun Жыл бұрын

100k Likes? You hear that everyone? Why not?

@kilianfirebolt Жыл бұрын

Why are you building civs in mid 38

@meklavier4664 6 ай бұрын

I think they have patched this bug. I try it and it does not work

@victorsache558 Жыл бұрын

Does it work with the left opposition to? ( the civil war part)

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Yes however if you go Trotsky you can't progress down the focus tree

@victorsache558 Жыл бұрын

Just fixed my comment. I meant the left opposition but still got the answer. Anyways, thx

@gixo-sama8524 Жыл бұрын

i tried to do the same as he did in the video but the war still fire idk why ?

@impostorsyndrome1350 Жыл бұрын

you don't do infinite tank exploit anymore in your games?

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

The exploit is too spicy to ignore.

@bogdandrugov2127 Жыл бұрын

ye Dave the right opposition was about returning to NEP so it was kinda lessez faire version of cummunism

@cgulls6827 Жыл бұрын

I've tested it in a singleplayer game and it doesnt seem to work? Does anyone know what I might have done wrong

@Gaster_Master-ep6ef Жыл бұрын

dosent work for me either im not sure why

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Don't click

@cgulls6827 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming I dont click anything 😭

@nothingforwatch Жыл бұрын

F for Queen

@backroomswikide Жыл бұрын

What I'm wondering is why you always convert to cavallery as the ussr

@boomknight1015 Жыл бұрын

Did they really forget to put a timer on that? lul

@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын

Napoleon didn't use divide and conquer, he used defeat in detail

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

errrr those are the same thing

@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming No, no they aren't: defeat in detail is a military tactic; divide and conquer is a diplomatic and military strategy

@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming Although, it's worth mentioning that Napoleon tried (unsuccessfully) to divide and conquer

@rafaelaugustosimoes1813 Жыл бұрын

PART 2 !!!!!

@sgrizzo48 Жыл бұрын

Wait does that mean that you can keep ALL of your generals? O.o If so i hope they don't patch it anytime soon >.>

@kevinhayes3672 Жыл бұрын

If a country is making no consumer goods for years does everyone run out of trousers?

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Yes

@powerfulslime39 Жыл бұрын

You should try the Vatican mod

@Muinko Жыл бұрын

part 2!

@Bigzthegreat Жыл бұрын

the new focus trees are supper trigger happy with consumer goods. USSR and lithuania have so many of these consumer goods modifiers.

@maxvisser9528 Жыл бұрын

Part 2 when, FeedBackGaming?

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

55 BILLION LIKES!

@maxvisser9528 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming on it!

@slemansleman1356 Жыл бұрын

Perfect

@geometryd Жыл бұрын

2:25 USSR had the largest navy in the world.

@crossl4055 Жыл бұрын

I tried do this today and not worked, the civil war began (even dont doing nothing in the event) and I only had 17 divisions and Bukharin as leader, so I think that this bug was fixed

@koya6470 Жыл бұрын

It worked for me. Just did it now.

@permableinkpollo7982 Жыл бұрын

whats the name of the mod?

@peoplesoft2784 Жыл бұрын

My condolences for the Queen’s death. I don’t like monarchies in general, but I always respected Queen Elizabeth and what she did. Not sure If I’m being presumptuous but my condolences

@blueshark4926 Жыл бұрын

THE QUEEN'S DEAD FUCK YEAH GOD BLESS AMERICA

@yushka1917 Жыл бұрын

THE WITCH IS DEAD DING DONG

@enriktigasna Жыл бұрын

You could play her in hoi4 😞

@triersero2763 Жыл бұрын

So it is just like kaiserredux

@Sarkoth2718 Жыл бұрын

Would this work with the tsarist path?

@kobaltblaa2611 Жыл бұрын

It would work if you werent blocked by the "Consolitade power" focus, which has a requirement for the ciwil war to be fought and won.

@Sarkoth2718 Жыл бұрын

@@kobaltblaa2611 Ohh, thanks for the clarification :)

@justrugut9082 Жыл бұрын

Flame tank under flaaaAaame boy. 10:23 check it yourself

@tristanthebaut2073 Жыл бұрын

Let's hope paradox will never patch ot

@armaansingh9188 Жыл бұрын

Which mod is this?

@memewood1029 Жыл бұрын

This isn't a mod, this is just the No step back dlc.

@kinseward5663 Жыл бұрын

doesnt work sadly, tried it 3 times this afternoon and it would auto-pick a random option for the civil war for me after about 15 days

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Running all DLC and latest patch no mods?

@e365exercise3 Жыл бұрын

Same for me. Auto-selects, then I’m at war.

@villadavid1997 Жыл бұрын

Same for me, didn't work

@kinseward5663 Жыл бұрын

@@DaveFeedBackGaming yeah

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

From what I understand anyways, the Right Opposition was a particular subset of soviet leadership after lenin died. It was represented, as it is in game, by Bukharin and Rykov. It was called that as it was the more "right wing" (still very communist) side of Marxist leninist thought. The Right Opposition wanted a continuation of the NEP established in 1921 under Lenin and taken away by Stalin in 1927. They believed that the soviet union was too agrarian and the industrial proletariat too small to actually achieve socialism, so allowing small scale private enterprise back as opposed to a top down centrally planned economy would help kickstart industrial development and eventually "grow into" socialism. Keep in mind, when the NEP was first introduced, it was a compromise the bolsheviks did to restart the absolutely devastated soviet economy after the civil war. The Rights just saw it as the true way forward instead of a bandage. This is in opposition to the collectivization and five year plans the rest of the party wanted. If all of this sounds familiar, it's because China would end up doing something similar under Deng Xiaoping in the 1970s. Which is to say that the obstensively communist nation of China is clearly a state capitalist one nowadays. (This is why stalin and the rest of the party didn't like the NEP btw, with Trotsky fearing it would just lead down to capitalism) I think if this happened to the USSR in real life then they would have ended up something like modern China today. Definitely a higher quality of life than the actual USSR gave to its citizens anyways.

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

Also yes haha le funni TNO man

@RandyMCPEmaster Жыл бұрын

But i wonder what would happen when the great depression hit though..

@mapoch9000 Жыл бұрын

Soviet economy by the 1927 was demonstrating small growth rate (especially in heavy industry) and this rate was decreasing even more. So USSR would have ended up as lebensraum, and its citizens as ash.

@x999uuu1 Жыл бұрын

Huh that's actually a good point.

@someguywithabanana6417 Жыл бұрын

the NEP, unlike dengism, had stuff like trade unions, worker co-op bussinesses, and soviets (which are also trade unions but not really) so it is doubtable the soviets would end up as authoritarian as China.

@stormpixel2489 Жыл бұрын

does it work with the other paths?

@jonathanapold7827 Жыл бұрын

i think those have a ideology check(except trotsky)

@DaveFeedBackGaming Жыл бұрын

Sadly not

@quentin6505 Жыл бұрын

About the curtailment of the farms and the debates inside the bolchevik party which are actually fascinating ; Boukahrin's stance was that Russia was too backward and rural to directly implement a full collectivized economy. The workers and the peasants had to work together and hence the worker's party should'nt impose a collectivized economy to a peasantry that just had gained the owned ownership of the land (1917 you know) nor impose drastic quotas on the farmers and use the capital to develop the industry (which is actually how the USSR industrialized so quickly IRL). Basicaly it meant that the soviet economy was meant to grow at a slower yet more human pace. It also meant securing democracy inside and outside the party, even thought that depends which member of the right opposition you are talking about. Tomski for instance was more prone towards independant trades union even thought he played its part in muzzling them. In contrast Trosky's platform was one of general regimentation of the workers and the peasantry, fast industrialisation and development to make Russia an active beacon of socialism that might spure and support the revolution throughout the world. He got wierldy allied with what used to be called the "worker's opposition" (because some of its members were actually real wokers such as Chiaplakov in contrast with the many journalist, lawyers, and other petit bourgeois ascent that ruled the party) that denounced the bolchevik's bureaucratics manners, the fadding of the soviets and trade union powers, but that was merely tactic. If I had to choose back then i would have went with Boukarhin tbh.