I prefer Celibidache's live version, recorded in Turin in the early 1990s. Sure, it lasts an hour and a half, but the transcendent intensity is incredible.
@marks14174 ай бұрын
LOL
@sivakumarvakkalanka49384 ай бұрын
Good one, lol! :) :)
@mauryq21504 ай бұрын
XDDDD
@hiphurrah14 ай бұрын
Are you not mistaken by another conductor. I don't think Celi conducted in Turin in the 90s. Maybe you mean the Munich performance, it's astonishing (and -if i may say so- better than the one on Tinnitus)
@CannonfireVideo4 ай бұрын
Could you PLEASE teach my dog Charlie how to perform this work? The entire neighborhood will thank you.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
Sorry. The union won't allow it.
@leeturner12024 ай бұрын
My old cat Yogi once gave an absolutely riveting performance of 4'33". Unfortunately, the recording was never released commercially as the battery on my camera died at 4'31". My producer said we could alter the recording to get another two seconds, but I could not allow such chicanery to besmirch Yoga's artistic and meditative reputation.
@user-dh5bn2fe4b4 ай бұрын
Slayer delivered an absolutely brutal rendition of 4' 33" as an encore at Bloodstock in 2016. The crowd walked away stunned at what they just hadn't heard.
@robh90794 ай бұрын
When anyone discusses/asks 'what is music' - I insist that any definition takes 4'33'' into account. Btw; I saw Rommel's performance - I thought he tanked.....
@colincomposer4 ай бұрын
Astonishing performance. The calmness yet authority of Pipo's performance of Cage's most famous and iconic work is one for the ages.
@addernoir14834 ай бұрын
Indeed! Pipo's interpretation was purrfect.
@MichaelGilman4894 ай бұрын
I'm speechless.
@issadad4 ай бұрын
Reference Comment.
@Bullroarer175011 күн бұрын
My fluffball princess diana could never learn this difficult work in full, being an uneducated feline of the street, and an eternal chitterer(I’ve never had a cat who could not hold 20 seconds worth of silence before). But, my tuxedo cat Charles Wallace, from an early age, produced many unbelievable performances of it. Hard to believe a kitten could be capable of such delicate, raw, unexpressed emotion. A true prodigy, and his performances have only been refined and deepened with age.
@paulalcazar4 ай бұрын
This piece is truly one of the moments of all time
@vinylarchaeologist4 ай бұрын
Good one. Funny seeing meme lingo in David’s comment section. Not something I expected 😊
@ukdavepianoman4 ай бұрын
This video was brilliant. The climax of Pipo's performance was transcendent. A wonderful legacy from Pipo.
@MichaelGilman4894 ай бұрын
I've been trying to post Pipo's rendition of 4'33" on my KZfaq channel, but Tinnitus Classics keeps sending me Cease and Desist notices and muting the video. Very frustrating!
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
I’ll look into it. Pipo”s estate is difficult to deal with.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
I’ll look into it. Pipo”s estate is difficult to deal with.
@dmntuba4 ай бұрын
Pipo ROCKS!!!! We miss you sweet cat musician.
@wcsxwcsx25 күн бұрын
I knew I could count on you to find the reference recording of this work.
@user-mk9tb5mu3q4 ай бұрын
Thank you - I was waiting for this !
@stefanandressohn84484 ай бұрын
The Rommel/Braun recording was ahead of its time, but mono recordings just don't do justice to this kind of music. So, yes, three meows for Pipo.
@smurashige4 ай бұрын
Have you heard any of the cat Rosemary Brown's recordings? She claims to have spoken with the spirit of the late John Cage and written three pieces he dictated to her - 6'42", 5'21", and 8'56". And what about the cat Joyce Hatto's version?
@btwilks4 ай бұрын
Rarely does Dave incorporate two (!) Reference Recordings in one video - but this was certainly one such occasion. Pipo's recording is without doubt one of the finest versions of Mr Cage's most famous opus(sy) and it goes without saying (oops and darn it, I just said it) that Dave's own performance here is one of the finest of all exhibits in his channel's playlist of Reference Recordings. We Mighty can surely (Shelley?) only look on such works and despair. Thank you, sir, for providing an uplifting end to my day.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
You're very welcome.
@davidhowe69054 ай бұрын
How long is it without repeats?
@FCarraro14 ай бұрын
2:16, give or take.
@davidlemon38594 ай бұрын
I feel very proud to have acquired Pipo's outstanding performance of 4'33" at Tinnitus's release party at the Pierre. I also treasure Pipo's signature album, the 2CD My Favorite Fermatae. I decided to give a copy to my own cat to encourage her to take up a professional career, but I'm having trouble tracking down the recording, even on its vinyl mono release. Tinnitus is usually so good about keeping things in the catalogue.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
I'll look into it.
@markmiller37134 ай бұрын
I was wondering where this was going to go. Thank you! 😁
@GrapeWallsOfIre4 ай бұрын
What a legacy Pipo leaves behind! I do hope one of my cats can achieve such greatness.
@mikeminden10903 ай бұрын
The lifetime of rehearsal is evident.
@poturbg86984 ай бұрын
You should have included a HIP reference, which would include the opening and closing of the keyboard to demarcate the beginning and end of the piece, as David Tudor did at the premiere.
@wouterdemuyt10134 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the recording that's lacking in detail, but I didn't hear Pipo purring during the performance. It's a pity because I think it really should be played with vibrato. Here she sounds a bit like Norrington's cat...
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
Please don't insult the dead...
@wouterdemuyt10134 ай бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide She was a great cat: When you notice a cat in profound meditation, The reason, I tell you, is always the same: His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name: His ineffable effable Effanineffable Deep and inscrutable singular Name.
@sivakumarvakkalanka49384 ай бұрын
Hahahaha! 😂 Good on yer, Dave! I am not sure i can live with that rallentando Pipo makes towards the end but.... that's just me.
@user-mm5tg1mc1f4 ай бұрын
Dave: That review was brilliant! Harold Schonberg would be jealous.
@pascalrousseau14 ай бұрын
Just for fun, i asked chat gpt. "John Cage's "4'33"" is a composition where the performer remains silent, creating an experience of ambient sounds in the environment. There isn't a single reference recording since each performance captures unique ambient sounds. However, David Tudor's premiere performance in 1952 is often referenced as it marked the first public presentation of the piece."
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
Obviously Chat GPT needs to educate itself further.
@petroslinardos4 ай бұрын
Yes! John Cage, himself a cat person, would have definitely been thrilled to have experienced Pipo's unmatched performance, and would have probably felt deeply honored.
@user-et8mh2ki1c4 ай бұрын
With so many strong competitors, I'm astonished at how you maintained your objectivity in making this choice. Sadly, Pippo pre-dates my time with your videos, but the quality of her performance really comes through in the clip you showed.
@miltalive4 ай бұрын
Ptpo's interpretation was transcendant and carried me to heights previously unknown
@joeboucher6954 ай бұрын
Okay, I'm sold. Where can I get it? Did you put it on Bandcamp?
@benferguson61314 ай бұрын
May Pipo's memory be a blessing.
@UlfilasNZ4 ай бұрын
Profound indeed.
@FREDGARRISON4 ай бұрын
Pipo's performance was definitely John "UN-CAGED" Thanks Dave
@swimmad4564 ай бұрын
Once again David dismisses the unique British contribution to the discography. Winston Churchill’s ginger cat Jock made the first stereo recording to appear on LP and this immediately superceded the German version made under less than ideal wartime conditions. For many years it was the Penguin Record Guides rosette version.
@dennislovinfosse62934 ай бұрын
"I have nothing to say and I'm saying it"--John Cage. More Pipo, please!
@ftumschk4 ай бұрын
Apart from Rommel the Cat, the _actual_ Erwin Rommel also released his own recording. It tanked.
@DavidJohnson-of3vh4 ай бұрын
chuckle
@ugolomb4 ай бұрын
I just realized that my cat has been rehearsing the work for several months!
@bjornjagerlund37934 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with this piece is that when the egg clock rings after 4.33 it destroys the whole experience.
@davidoberg69894 ай бұрын
My graduate thesis was an in-depth study of 4'33", which was one blank page after another. I also provided the thesis committee with a CD of 4'33". Finally, during my oral defense. I said nothing but with conviction. (By the way, I was tested beforehand.)
@ericodealmeidamangaravite19214 ай бұрын
The best recordings of this piece doesn't use any vibrato at all. So, I prefer maestro Norris Washington version.
@theodentherenewed47854 ай бұрын
You must've considered this idea: sitting in front of the camera silently for 4'33" and then ending the video by saying: "that's it! I produced a reference recording of 4'33" . it think it might've been a copyright infringement on John Cage's part - he didn't invent silence, he just put his name next to it. It's akin to a well-known painting "Black Square" by Kazimir Malevich. it's hardly an original idea.
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
It never occurred to me because Pipo owned the piece and would have killed me if I tried to steal the spotlight.
@seanmcfate8264 ай бұрын
All hail Pipo!
@francoisjoubert68674 ай бұрын
This is outrageous - it is the opinion of the CAT people. What about the great recording by my Great Dane Axel (with fart obbligato) or his dearly departed Aunt Freya’s 1980 early digital one Docca (Neville Marriner and the Adoggamy of St Bernard in the Meadows)? Your survey is really incomplete. And what about the 1906 recording of Tsar Nicolas’ poodle Nicolai? Outrageous, I tell you!
@stephencoats15014 ай бұрын
I wish they played this work more often in supermarkets, elevators and the people in the next apartment could well do with playing this on repeat rather than Kanye's and 50 Cents more recent symphonies. That's my opinion anyway. My dad has played this on repeat since I saw him last in 2017.
@zdl19654 ай бұрын
Pipo's has actually become a historical recording, since the artist is no longer with us. Maybe, Mildred and Finster might give us their takes of 4'33". By the way, were Rommel and Eva Braun kitlers?
@FranzKaernBiederstedt4 ай бұрын
Wait a minute, how can there be historic recordings by Rommel from the 40s when Cage did write the piece not before 1952? I'm confused... time travelling cat performers? What world are we living in? Besides that the rendition by Pipo is truely remarkable!
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
Let’s not get pedantic about mere chronology.
@HermanVonPetri4 ай бұрын
All composers occasionally lift segments from their other compositions. What's little known is that 4'33" is really an excerpt from a previously unpublished and untitled piece that was only released posthumously upon his death. That premier "live" performance began on August 12, 1992 and hasn't ended yet.
@loganfruchtman9534 ай бұрын
My own recording is better. Took me 20 years to learn and research. RIP to Pipo. Her recording was inspirational and emotional
@DavesClassicalGuide4 ай бұрын
Her.
@loganfruchtman9534 ай бұрын
@@DavesClassicalGuide Sorry. But I took almost my whole life studying this groundbreaking peice of music
@sleepjar70134 ай бұрын
My cat Fluffy gave a world class performance but successfully sued me over publishing rights. The recording remains locked in her safe deposit vault at the bank.
@ahartify4 ай бұрын
Yes, Pipo had astounding stamina and control, and never panicked. Such grace and serenity.
@mjears4 ай бұрын
Well, 8 full minutes of talk about 4'33" - I had to tune in just for curiosity (especially since I can understand everything at 2x speed). I know you & Cage share a love of cats, so the report is unsurprising. But I’m itching to tell the (true) story of finding the _published_ “score” of this work, properly catalogued in the Sibley Library, which specifies only that it has 3 movements, all marked TACET. It does not specify the timings, so the popular “title” of the work is misleading. (Sorry for the earnest interruption … carry on.)
@billspectre95024 ай бұрын
I thought this was going to be some kind of joke. 🎉😂
@Decrepit_Productions4 ай бұрын
Why rule out the 3min28sec version? Very likely the first movement exposition repeat wasn't taken, a legitimate perfomrance choice for all but the most rabid Cagists.
@Baritocity4 ай бұрын
This was a landmark recording for the label, too. It was their first release where the audio engineering didn't leave my ears ringing.
@stevemcclue57594 ай бұрын
Meowvellous!
@tracykilleen6704 ай бұрын
What?! Not even a mention of Snowflake?
@wayneday31164 ай бұрын
Where's the piano? You've got to have a piano (preferably a Steinway) within paws distance to properly perform this piece, otherwise Pipo is disqualified for consideration. Sorry.
@hegelseyes4 ай бұрын
it's simply drawing the logical conclusion of modern music sounding like a cat on the piano?
@wayneday31164 ай бұрын
I almost forgot. Pipo had to have a stop watch, too. No piano, no stop watch, no performance.
@ColinWrubleski-eq5sh4 ай бұрын
Nepotism! The fix was in! The biased American feline-o-philic critic should have recused himself from commenting. And Gracie (from Star Trek IV) and her fellow species-mates are hotly contesting that only cats were allowed into consideration. After all, they argue, the best musicians (humpback whales) on the planet are also the best at silence when they do not sing.
@francoisjoubert68674 ай бұрын
Exactly. What about the dog recordings???
@TenorCantusFirmus4 ай бұрын
I'd like to politely disagree, everyone knows the best performance is by kitten Berlioz from "The Aristocats" 😁😁. Meanwhile, my neighborhood's cat is such a bad instrumentalist, it wasn't even able to pull out a performance of this piece - At 2' 16'' you can even hear a middle C it struck with a paw!
@trevorguy634 ай бұрын
Sonics are terrible 😢 too much background noise. Excellent performance though!
@howard52594 ай бұрын
The environment is the whole point of 4'33". Without background it is just silence. Pipo understands that.
@DavidJohnson-of3vh4 ай бұрын
Heh heh heh...
@SimonHesterLonelyPianist4 ай бұрын
By the way, my dog's performance is far better than any cats. Much better than his Bach any how, which tends to be too loud.
@bbailey78184 ай бұрын
4'33" was actually commissioned from Cage by John de Lancie for his basset hound.
@SimonHesterLonelyPianist4 ай бұрын
Didn't Mozart write a concerto for Bassett Hound?
@dr25494 ай бұрын
Call me Old Fashioned, but for me this masterpies was ruined by the HIP people
@strikeachord72284 ай бұрын
This channel is becoming too serious. Lighten things up a bit!