fqxi.org David Eagleman at the FQXi SETTING TIME ARIGHT conference, an interdisciplinary meeting investigating the nature of time
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@cmoxiv9 жыл бұрын
This presentation blew my mind and explained many phenomena I am experiencing since I stopped computer gaming.
@Mike16598712 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. He's a great presenter and brought many interesting facts to light. I especially loved the part on schiz... very cool!
@SmokyVisions10 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling new discoveries in neuroscience like this will be a great factor in shaping 21st century society. What amazes me the most is how neuroscience today yields insights that are somewhat similar to what Eastern philosophies discovered through introspection. This shouldn't be so surprising though, since consciousness is a part of the brain and therefore direct analysis of conscious experience through "meditation" can produce somewhat accurate results.
@LaughingMan449 жыл бұрын
Can you link me to some of those introspective insights?
@FelixGigler12 жыл бұрын
That man's a genius! I really like the way he explains!
@earthlyfriend11 жыл бұрын
His enthusiasm is attractive.
@burakgunn11 ай бұрын
Another brilliant presentation. Thanks!.
@zanescheepers20844 жыл бұрын
There's actually a third option. Although the flash occurs when the ring is at a certain point, the brain doesn't stop seeing the flash when it stops. I've performed experiments which show that our rods and cones continue sending electrochemical impulses to the visual cortex long after they stopped detecting light, if the light intensity is high.
@KingdomOfDimensions11 жыл бұрын
I love these topics. Thanks for cleaning up my terrible rambling by the way. Your explanation was much more concise and understandable than mine.
@triniroti86812 жыл бұрын
this is a very interesting study.......i'm blown away!!!
@ThinkTank25511 жыл бұрын
This would also explain why time seems to go faster for older people. Fewer things can surprise them, and thus, their attention mechanism stays relatively narrow compared to younger people.
@lraoux8 жыл бұрын
I have epilepsy and I'm curious to know how this factors into the seizures that go on in my brain... When having petit mal seizures it feels like I have no control over what I do, which is a really scary state of mind BTW, but I suppose all the electrical activity going on up there is extending the seizure moment's Subjective Distortion and my body will have moved a lot more by the time I regain control..
@sKilfoyProdCo12 жыл бұрын
definitely want to hear the Q&A session!!!!!
@henrinaths18 жыл бұрын
The clock represents more information than the shoe so the brain has to work harder thus the illusion of taking more time. That's why a boring day at work doing nothing takes forever and when work is engaging and fun you sat time flies. Both days are the same length.
@lisasays61749 жыл бұрын
This is interesting and I wonder what the difference in experiencing time would be for two individuals of similar age/gender/background where one is neuro typical and the other is in the beginning stages of alzheimers.
@stephenfulton81328 жыл бұрын
We have to learn more about our brains if we are to make the type of changes that will enhance the quality of our lives. I am in favor of learning about this necessary field.
@CraigBeige12 жыл бұрын
Great video. Any chance you can post the Q&A?
@TheDivergable11 жыл бұрын
is it weird or good that when he showed the little movie of the flash and ring the flash was still in the middle?
@Spaceizcool12 жыл бұрын
After i watched this video, i understand why when i watch a short funny video(about 3 minutes), and then i watch it again, it seems sooo much shorter than before
@RandomGuy098712 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@KingdomOfDimensions11 жыл бұрын
I think it more like the brain is synchronizing sensory inputs it thinks are related, and it gathers from a variable time span of inputs usually around 80ms. This synchronization is really a perception of causality, but it feels like a compression due to our brain tending to perceive as causal relationships as instantaneous. The main difference between this and your description is that you do indeed perceive continuously, not in compressed 80ms segments, but relationships can appear to be.
@rooroo198812 жыл бұрын
I love that "CLOK" sound he's making.
@campion121112 жыл бұрын
vsauce got to the point faster
@DantsevDenisKa11 жыл бұрын
I made a simple website to test statement about 80/40 ms reaction delay. and it doesn't seem to be working. At this webpage once in a while delay between click and block flashing is 80 and randomly delay equals 40ms.(you can check when in browser console). I didn't experience cause/effect swap.
@Farreach12 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@FQxI13 жыл бұрын
You can find the tests here: eaglemanlab. net/flashlag/ (remove the space between the dot and "net")
@wawingnut111 жыл бұрын
Really interesting concept. My mind is kinda blown
@perseverance87 жыл бұрын
The description at first part of vid, essentially describes branch prediction in modern CPU implementation, however the brain has more going on vs any digital logic.
@pikan_golman4 жыл бұрын
why is the flash not lagging if we follow the ring with our eyes?
@Myusernamerulez12 жыл бұрын
That's still nothing like the time warping you get from a good trip. A lot of what we know about the brain today came from the study of psychedelic drugs.
@961kgb12 жыл бұрын
if i got it right, the final conclusion is that time seems slower when the brain uses more energy and faster when it uses less energy. but since we are talking about time perception, i can't help but think about how we percieve time when we're bored and when we are having fun. it would seem to me that when you're having fun, ur brain uses more energy than when you're bored, so time should feel slower, witch is not the case in reality just wanted to share some of my thoughts
@Runekek12 жыл бұрын
where did he give this talk? is it in denmark since theres danish?
@flyepikskate11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! :D
@earthlyfriend11 жыл бұрын
variation in time: due to the stimulating power of the full spectrum light from the sun?
@chrissellgren444012 жыл бұрын
is that from doctor who?
@utuebmakeustupid12 жыл бұрын
I only see the flash in the middle of the ring no matter where I focus my sight. I can't see the delayed image. Can anyone explain?
@prongs41373 жыл бұрын
Your perception is a lot better synced/recalliberated/fine tuned than average people. You're doing something regularly that has trained your brain that way.
@Xuhybrid12 жыл бұрын
Ive spent a lot of my life playing video games. I watched that video on vsauce and the flash was dead centre for me. I was a little confused when he explained what i shud have seen lol.
@Giyuo11 жыл бұрын
Is this the reason why in the movie "epic" all the smaller animals live in a faster time than bigger ones?
@ixeqilibrium2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact.. If you look at your wall clock the first second seems last longer than second, third.. etc..
@mcrage8112 жыл бұрын
in the reversed sample I saw the ring aligned with the flash..
@Capulator812 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting but he didn't say anything about choice, is there an error with the title?
@utuebmakeustupid12 жыл бұрын
@MrWp97 Like I said, no matter where I focus my sight ...
@EletroSensor12 жыл бұрын
It won't matter if the action your body is performing is actually the "present", because you will percieve them after they happened, hence you are living in the "past". You are your counscious part of your brain.
@nihilnihilnihil10 жыл бұрын
actually flash looks rigt inside the ring for me, does that mean i have some kind of distortion in my brain?
@prongs41373 жыл бұрын
It means you do some activity regularly that has trained your brain to be more accurately perceptive than most people. Like playing a lot of video games that require hand eye coordination, for example. Or you're neurodivergent. Perhaps very slightly neurodivergent, perhaps more obviously, but there's nothing wrong with it. It's not bad, just different. N if you're obviously neurodivergent, life is going to be hard because the world discriminates against people with differences like that.
@JobvanderZwan11 жыл бұрын
So 80ms translates to 12.5 fps - at 25fps every two frames are smushed together by the brain. Is that why it's sufficiently fast to not feel choppy? In which case... have these perception tests been performed with professional gamers?
@ThingEngineer11 жыл бұрын
So then entire body does a full refresh, then we have a snap shot of that span of time and perceive it as a moment in time. Doesn't that mean that our minds are compressing time in 80mS packets down to something much less maybe only a few mS? If so then time is much different than what we perceive.
@Flowmaster92511 жыл бұрын
we are the line between past and future, thats the only way we are aware of both
@yagot232312 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. In this video /watch?v=RjlpamhrId8 the result show that there is an improvement in time perception in that kind of situations.
@DeamMe12 жыл бұрын
Where was the conference? Btw nice work!
@jareknowak87122 жыл бұрын
👍
@IneffableLifestyle11 жыл бұрын
What people perceive depends on what happens after what they see even though they see the same thing? Wow..
@ThingEngineer11 жыл бұрын
I can never trust my brain again, causality is out the window without a reference of some type.
@TheDivergable11 жыл бұрын
actually i saw it not in the middle so im fine i didnt know u have to look at the red square
@rowanwax12 жыл бұрын
Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey, totally
@earthlyfriend11 жыл бұрын
its not guessing ahead it is living in the past. the reason why it seems as if it is guessing is because it is assigning past performance to was is seen as future phenomena hence we are in the past but think we are in the present.
@BullShitThat12 жыл бұрын
@961kgb right idea, wrong perception :( When your brain is bored it is minimally distracted, & is not thinking about anything in particular. Which means it's MORE aware/focus on the little things you're doing, like what you're actually thinking about, seeing/hearing/smelling/feeling around you. This takes more energy resulting in time seemingly moving slower. When you're having fun, you're distracted/entertained, you don't need to think, you just need to perceive/enjoy, requiring less energy.
@freedomsk8er110 жыл бұрын
Hey its Paul Rudd !
@MikeHawktheTroll12 жыл бұрын
Vsauce rolling in!
@henrinaths18 жыл бұрын
+ALAKTORN Precisely the flash represents more information so your brain want to analyzes it more thus takes the illusion of more time. It's only remembering it. The circle is boring and doesn't change. But the flash you want to figure out what colour, duration, purpose. Once my brain figured out it represented no significant information I saw the flash and circle at the same time.
@FullofDeth11 жыл бұрын
I, for my personal interest, would like a better measurement for events, seconds just seem to not work very well with the individual perception of each person. and his work has done great advancement in this field, hopefully it cures schizophrenia.
@EletroSensor12 жыл бұрын
Study of psychedlic drugs is extremely important for study of the brain, specially brain disorders, but I'm not sure the "time warping" you get from drugs is quite the same. It may be just due to the loss of bits of memory. Psychoactive drugs act on multiple parts of the brain, so it's difficult to analyze a single "symptom" and give it one explanation only
@shikarabu10 жыл бұрын
*koh* He "snaps in his mouth" so much man. I like his explanation though.
@RexTee43810 жыл бұрын
yeah it's annoying
@andygaras11 жыл бұрын
persistence of light?
@poohpush12 жыл бұрын
brent spiner is in the front row
@jbhewitt1211 жыл бұрын
no, because the ping would just add to the 80ms lag your brain experiences. Case 1: If i do something in the game and the ping is (hypothetically) 0 then you will process it 80ms later. Case 2: if i do something in the game and it take 80ms to show up on your screen then you will process it 160ms later.
@InurMomsMouth42012 жыл бұрын
watched this on acid.....thank u....don't judge me open up ur mind
@abcdefghilihgfedcba10 жыл бұрын
that flash/circle thing is stupid it’s obviously because a bright flash leaves a longer-lasting perception than a darker color, so at first you see it where it should be but then the flash is perceived for longer than it really is and looks like it makes that optical illusion
@AskEpic5 жыл бұрын
That just encourages his point, its an illusion. The brain is guessing from the information it has.
@Coolio191111 жыл бұрын
no it processes it faster with more accurate results
@phorse12 жыл бұрын
How does this have anything to do with choice?
@ThinkTank25511 жыл бұрын
This is yet another piece of evidence that supports Jeff Hawkins Memory-Prediction Framework. It seems to me what is actually happening is that unexpected situations are causing the attention mechanism (as describe in terms of Jeff Hawkins cortical hierarchy) to expand, so we are taking in more information all at once. Maybe it's not energy, but rather, INFORMATION that reaches the top of the hierarchy that quantifies time our subjective perception of time???
@ANTIMONcom12 жыл бұрын
someone have to send this to TED.COM
@LiberatedMind110 жыл бұрын
babiddy boo bop bapiddy boo!
@degraves200311 жыл бұрын
This has application in Transportation Engineering.
@Myusernamerulez12 жыл бұрын
Anybody who has ever taken psychedelic drugs knows that we can drastically change our perception of time.
@EletroSensor12 жыл бұрын
You don't need drugs for that, just turn off the lights in the room and write something down (there should be a dim light, of course). You will feel yourself writing before you actually see it.
@jgsw5639 жыл бұрын
i couldnt watch because of stupid camera angles
@dgresko7 жыл бұрын
This is great but it talks about the nature of perception not the concept of choice or free will.
@misleadspax11 жыл бұрын
ummmm I can't be the only one who sees the flash in the center every time.
@user-kp3gr2tm1j5 жыл бұрын
Mr.GK
@Coolio191111 жыл бұрын
you mean sent
@eavsm11 жыл бұрын
I can't get my head around surprise number 3. :s
@jbhewitt1211 жыл бұрын
our brains are the way they are because of millions of years of evolution... given the constraints imposed by our own biology, this is without a doubt the optimal arrangement :)
@yangmungi12 жыл бұрын
...hmmm....ok.....WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh.
@latingirl95112 жыл бұрын
So if shorter people really are "closer to the boarder of the present" does that mean children/midgets, who are both lesser in height, does that mean they are both more in the present?
@Wolf_Kami11 жыл бұрын
so just humor me for a seconds ... when you smoke or eat weed and time starts to move slower that means your burning more energy and thats why you feel hungry afterwards cause your brain has burned so much energy and needs to be refilled
@monitorhead13243 жыл бұрын
He’s made a great documentary called “the Brain with david eagleman”. Best in the field. Check it out.
@EletroSensor12 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for myself on use of psychedelic drugs, but it is a scientific fact that psychoactive drugs have multiple effects on a person's neurochemistry, thus affecting, among other things, the percpetion of the outside world. This is something from the outside altering something from the inside. Make no mistake, drugs have serious hazardous effects on the brain. The 'time warping' from the video is a natural phenomenon, and is, as you saw on the video, caused do to the brain's 'delay' time.
@douglasauruss11 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with choice? Please change the title.
@earthlyfriend11 жыл бұрын
A good example would be the Nathan Mayer Rothschild when Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo. Reputedly Rothschild received the information before the public and was able to manipulate the London stock exchange hence becoming one of the richest men in Europe.
@ClovenBow262012 жыл бұрын
So if you die, you won`t be dead for around 80 mileseconds?
@rom90112 жыл бұрын
i come from the past
@Xuhybrid12 жыл бұрын
And yeah im havin trouble watchin this cuz of the blind assumption that its like that for everyone.
@Bl0ck3dz12 жыл бұрын
24:35 nnNNNOOooo! :D
@mikumiku1412 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel so stupid... At least everything he said makes sense to me.
@rowanwax12 жыл бұрын
Emissary = slowest ping ever.
@dekuie11 жыл бұрын
I'm not here to poke fun, or diminish the point of this video. That being said I had a very similar realization several months ago while having a horrid overdose experence with synthetic canabinoids (which i do not use anymore, and do not suggest anyone use.) This point was one of a couple of very interesting thoughts that I recieved following this experence. The other is related, but too long to fit into the remaining number of characters. Synthetic drugs are stupid, don't do them kids.