Taken from JRE #1646 w/David Holthouse: open.spotify.com/episode/4Uxb...
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@josephhertzberg27343 жыл бұрын
I have a close friend who did this same thing. He had done some time in the penitentiary previously for an unrelated crime and he plotted his revenge on his abuser. His steparent had raped my friend and his sister as children. His mom was already dead and had left the guy long ago. His abuser was a member of a 1% motorcycle club. My friend is no stranger to violence and he was going to kill the guy and call the cops and wait to be arrested. He was ready to do the time. He was fully prepared and brought a gun and a knife, as he wanted to stab the guy to death to make the kill personal. He went to the house knocked on the door and his wife answered. They talked for a long time and the guy died of cancer 6 months previous. He had also raped her daughter, and he talked to the daughter, who was 19-20 years old. Everyone cried, and that was that.
@aqualust50163 жыл бұрын
@Dawn Of The New Evil Age no that’s bullshit. People choose to be evil. We are all exposed to right and wrong.
@dom30733 жыл бұрын
@@aqualust5016 I believe it.
@fairwarning0073 жыл бұрын
@Dawn Of The New Evil Age I... I just can’t. This is so unbelievably fucking stupid.
@valentineeater35973 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why mothers choose to expose their children to monsters like this.
@aqualust50163 жыл бұрын
@@valentineeater3597 choose? Is that a bad troll?
@MFJoneser3 жыл бұрын
Abused men are more common than society admits. If we can drag this hurt out into the light, discuss it, we disarm it..
@edp32023 жыл бұрын
And boys/men being anally raped is humiliating and debasing and emasculating.
@jamesnightingale27883 жыл бұрын
@@edp3202 and kinda gay
@Rawdiswar3 жыл бұрын
This comment right here. IMHO you nailed it.
@jonathanbrooks97683 жыл бұрын
Such a good comment, yet a human cess pool of a reply section
@Rawdiswar3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbrooks9768 😳
@jopo79963 жыл бұрын
David showed amazing restraint not hurting or killing his abuser, and ruining his own life.
@zackhayes12683 жыл бұрын
@KLEOS fuck you and your stupid book you’re trying to sell
@ZeroFucksLeft3 жыл бұрын
@KLEOS Don't advertise in the comment section man
@gurgleblaster22823 жыл бұрын
While I whole heartedly agree with the sentiment. It doesn't solve the problem. Punishing someone after the fact does not deter the behavior in the first place. We need to stop stigmatizing victims. Male victims in particular are especially vulnerable to stigma. When boys start acting different after something horrific like this happens they often get bullied become isolated and avoid getting the help they desperately need. Because of the shame they feel. Its easy to say punish the pedos. Its apparently hard for people to just not call people faggots etc. when they don't know the person they are calling a fag might have actually been raped. (I am not suggesting they victim is gay just that homophobic slurs are often used as insults which can adversely effect children who were raped by same sex perpatrators).
@THOMASCOLTON13 жыл бұрын
Should be an amnesty on victim revenge against pedophiles all the way up to murder
@enotdetcelfer3 жыл бұрын
@KLEOS "be kind" then don't spam
@EndGameEnt3 жыл бұрын
I too was raped as a child and perhaps that's what made me feel so weak for so many years. I had crippling depression for 21 years and as a man, most people don't give a shit. In fact, during the me too movement, I was told to stay silent by countless people.
@jeann22643 жыл бұрын
So sorry! Peace be with you and stay strong.
@julieberry273 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry that happened to you. 💔
@EndGameEnt3 жыл бұрын
@@jeann2264 thank you for the support. Time makes things easier.
@EndGameEnt3 жыл бұрын
@@julieberry27 thank you for the support. People like you two make moving on more manageable.
@JEBavido3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear you went through that! I was sexually abused as a child and know how debilitating it is.
@PincheeAlee3 жыл бұрын
Considering how common child sexual abuse is... I'm really glad this story is being talked about on JRE. Survivors need a model of what it looks like to heal... especially men. This dude is a great example.
@zakkmylde17123 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as healing when it comes to being the victim of sexual abuse. There is only coping. It's been 15 years since it happened to me and no amount of therapy, talking about it or ways to work past it have worked. When you are abused something is taken from you and you never get it back, it's always going to be gone and you will always remember what happened. It's not the kind of trauma anyone can actually heal from, there is only healthy coping.
@myrtle12343 жыл бұрын
There is healing and forgiveness in Him. The day I decided to auger down into forgiveness and never turn back, He opened my eyes to the five hundred years of slavery, adultery, alcoholism, occult practice, pornography, and drug and sex abuse that lead up to what happened to siblings and me. Jesus stopped it with my house. My kids have never been exposed to one second of one iota of that shit. I’m no holy roller either. There is just one way out of the destruction and that’s through Him alone.
@kitty101413 жыл бұрын
@@myrtle1234 you did that sir, please at least partially give yourself credit
@ey3z4ya2 жыл бұрын
@@kitty10141 facts.
@Muffinadventures1232 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like he forgave or that he healed. I think it's nearly impossible to do both in this case. And that's totally OK. I think he was just finally able to tell his peice and get his revenge without landing in jail.
@haze11233 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking how common this is. The absolute worst side of humanity.
@DrunkSince19733 жыл бұрын
Just think humans are suppose to be civilized. Yet are worse than animals.
@tmsact3 жыл бұрын
Common is an understatement. It happens every nine seconds! Wrap your mind around that data for a second! Don’t believe me, do your research. It’s absolutely disgusting!
@dd-nk4jw3 жыл бұрын
or just make it ok to put bullet in the heads of people that do this
@tmsact3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler B #2 are you serious. Try every nine seconds!
@gAYCUNT-zt3qo3 жыл бұрын
@@tmsact ur taking that statistic way to seriously...
@chilliwraslin25103 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since Joe had some real shit like this, stories like these are fascinating to hear.
@665491113 жыл бұрын
yea man enough with all these famous ppl that talked for hours but with nothing to say
@afatasimatai3 жыл бұрын
he just had on the Lone Survivor.......
@beautifulwithbrain88273 жыл бұрын
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@TheSmilodon853 жыл бұрын
Mhhmmm the dark that you get sucked in...
@LClaypool3 жыл бұрын
Wow. As a man that shared similar childhood event, Afraid of the day I admitted I had also "planned" to my therapist, I was so afraid they would report me. God this is so real to me. So, sorry this happened to you brother.
@freetime2freeminds3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you didn't do it tho. And that you are here.
@LClaypool3 жыл бұрын
@@freetime2freeminds thanks for the kind words man.
@Zyborggian2 жыл бұрын
So they didn't report you?
@kaos013 жыл бұрын
You can tell this man has a good heart.
@KennySouluer3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy poeple go through shit like that and still choose to be compassionate
@KennySouluer3 ай бұрын
I think that’s what makes human so special there ability to suffer
@KennySouluer3 ай бұрын
Look at the likes of Carl Jung and Friedrich Nietzsche those guys had that dawg in them
@Megaman.ExE73 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says. It really takes a lot of gut to talk about being raped. That shit is traumatizing, especially as a young boy
@douca13 жыл бұрын
It follows you your entire life.
@ianwinn75783 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah. This shit haunts the guy every damn day but he tells it because it helps other victims come forward.
@TheMrsBeagle3 жыл бұрын
And yet people think people tell their stories for "attention". It's horrible, and it never leaves you.
@timboslice85593 жыл бұрын
I’m not saying it’s worse being raped as a guy as opposed to a women, but when it happens to a man it just strips any manhood away from him that he has...
@Megaman.ExE73 жыл бұрын
@@timboslice8559 It's not just you. I think most people agree with that statement. Not to discount anyone's experience. But there's obviously this cruelty to a male's experience that makes it more terrible than anything else
@mark2tech3 жыл бұрын
I like this guy. He’s super chill even when talking about these subjects.
@joech10653 жыл бұрын
It is really honey for the soul to hear how comfortable he's talking about it, because it transfers on some unconscious level that he indeed processed it all and this is past.
@IkesPimpHand3 жыл бұрын
The media never cared about men. I could go on and on but i am emotionally and physically tired.
@TheWilfred633 жыл бұрын
@@vanessabeauty5112 what the fuck is this?
@joshmurray12613 жыл бұрын
The media doesn’t care about anyone
@TheSmilodon853 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯 they don't give a f you have to be a man suck it up...
@yankeepirate60393 жыл бұрын
Not only do they not care, they are actively working to destroy traditional masculinity, largely through destroying femininity in women.
@machinediem47173 жыл бұрын
@@joshmurray1261 Dont bring that strawman ass response into this. If you've ever watched the news, especially in the last 4 years, you can see exactly who they care about.
@LodisVlogs3 жыл бұрын
He’s not a victim he’s fully in his power and his story will help others. Thank you Joe!
No way in hell that dude was the only one - you gotta put these perverts out there in the public so others don’t suffer man.
@viking_nor3 жыл бұрын
What do u base that on? Not the only one? Wtf do u know about that? Lol
@TxxT333 жыл бұрын
@@viking_nor regardless, they should be brought to the light to prevent further abuse. Abusers prey on the weak, if they have another opportunity they will probably take it. Also people generally follow patterns, nothing happens in a vacuum.
@artvandelay38403 жыл бұрын
@@viking_nor Dude, it's not like trying a new food for the first time. You think he just got it out of his system? He definitely has more than one victim.
@ianwinn75783 жыл бұрын
Actually, David does name the guy in his follow up article "Outing the Bogeyman" on Anchorage Press which he did as soon as he found out the guy had other (alleged, sigh) victims. I'd post the link but can't because I'm in Europe and they won't let me. Check it out, it's chilling and very well written. He's a brave and righteous and tortured dude. I wish him nothing but peace and success.
@marla-singer3 жыл бұрын
@@artvandelay3840 EXACTLY!
@djspike969fm3 жыл бұрын
So sad and painful to hear how so many people get away with abuse.
@gidge343 жыл бұрын
Happen to me and I carry the guilt and shame to this day and I’m 50 and it happened 45 years ago. Much love to all❤️
@douca13 жыл бұрын
I finally forgave my abuser after 50yrs. Don't carry the shame & guilt. Do the next thing. Forgive the person and move on. Your life will be so much better. God bless you.
@yzettasmith41943 жыл бұрын
I found that reading The Body Keeps the Score by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk helpful, maybe it would be for you.
@gidge343 жыл бұрын
@@yzettasmith4194 thanks you🥰
@markosimonovic91603 жыл бұрын
@@douca1 i am just curious, not to be rude or anything but how do you forgive something like that?
@oompaloompa91393 жыл бұрын
@@gidge34 the guilt and shame belong to the abuser, always. It is not your shame and not your fault. Place the blame where it belongs, on the abuser only.
@Garrus19953 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the guy for being able to rise above what happened to him. I was never molested or anything terrible like that, but as a kid I did receive some emotional/psychological abuse that saw me go to therapy for a few years. It’s hard to move on sometimes because why should a person be made to suffer if they’ve done nothing wrong?
@nolanolivier67913 жыл бұрын
Both of my parents were violently abusive. My mother was basically an emotional wreck because she had been trapped into marriage and children with a man she didn't even want to be with, so she would act out; it was erratic and unpredictable behaviour, which manifested as physical and verbal abuse. My father was different because I realised quite early on that he enjoyed beating me. By the time I was 13 he started to become afraid of me, so it largely stopped (he's a complete coward). I've forgiven my mother because I realised that she was almost as much of a victim as I and my brothers were. She was barely more than a child when she had me and she didn't deserve to be forced into parenthood. More than that, I realised that she is sincerely sorry. My father has apologised but I cannot forgive him because he has yet to convince me that he is truly sorry. I know he is motivated out of fear. When I was 17 I called him out and his response (utterly devoid of self-awareness) was to threaten to call the police. That's how much of a coward he is. I had basically put it out of my mind until 2 years ago, when one of my brothers committed suicide. The crazy thing is that even after that, I still don't think he feels any genuine remorse. I've never been raped, but I think that an adult beating a small child is somewhat similar to rape because the child is completely powerless; the child has no recourse but to beg and scream, and in the course of that the child becomes aware that the adult is provoked to greater violence by their begging and screaming, their expression of powerlessness. It's an awful experience to realise that your father enjoys inflicting pain on you. And the worst part is that you're somehow the one who feels guilty in the end because you think you're actually being punished. I've thought about beating my father many times. But I can't bring myself to harm a weaker person for no better reason than my personal gratification. Somehow I would be left with the guilt.
@Garrus19953 жыл бұрын
@@nolanolivier6791 I’m very sorry for everything you had to go through. Stay strong and be a better person, not only for yourself but to prove to your abusers that you didn’t let them win.
@firehorsewoman92553 жыл бұрын
I worked with a guy who made the most disgusting sexual comments to me. When I fired him for it he begged me not to tell anyone in our circle what had happened. I told him that I was going to tell absolutely everyone. I said he should have thought about that when he did it. I have never regretted outing him. I did it to protect anyone who might come in contact with this guy in the future. I wanted to get the word out about him. I also knew someone who, while they were working with a guy, listened to him make all kinds of sexual comments about his step daughter. When the two of them got back to the office the guy I knew outed the pervert to everyone. He completely humiliated him to anyone that would listen. The guy quit the next day. Always out them. Always. Strike quickly and mercilessly. It's the only way to protect others who have no idea how dangerous this person is, and puts terror into the hearts of these monsters. Predators look for victims that will accept their excuses, believe their lies, and give them second chances. Anonymity is their only protection. Remove it and you remove ability to operate. Never think you have destroyed their life. They destroyed their own life. Never be afraid to be the first one to speak up. Even if you feel you won't be believed, you'll increase the chances of the person that comes after you to be believed. Be perfectly comfortable knowing you were the one that brought on their demise
@SwissMarksman3 жыл бұрын
💯
@canttReid2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so brave😂
@Logan_932 жыл бұрын
This comment is cringe
@garrettsaulnier2651 Жыл бұрын
You have obviously never been a victim of assault.
@paulgreengod Жыл бұрын
@@Logan_93 found the nonce
@bigchiefsmackaho3873 жыл бұрын
My abuser died in a car accident when i was 8. It was a family member and because he was also young (11) i never told my family about what they had done. I just had to sit with it for decades until a friend opened up about his abuse as a child. To this day he is the only person i really talked with about it because i feel like all it would do is cause undue pain to his parents, whom i love very much.
@douca13 жыл бұрын
You have a kind heart.
@simonpepper97213 жыл бұрын
They?
@DavidMcNeal-fg9bd3 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar story. Almost exactly like his. I have grown to the same level of comfort talking about this in my mid 30’s and I think it’s great to hear someone else sharing their own story so publicly. Victims have to be able to talk openly about the trauma they endured in order to take that power back. My abuser had almost the same response when I confronted him. I also agree that I have not forgotten or forgiven him... but I won’t carry the weight of hating him. That’s too much weight to carry and will only lead to a destructive lifestyle.
@DavidMcNeal-fg9bd3 жыл бұрын
If anyone reading this has some skeletons locked in their closet and needs and ear, don’t hesitate. Start a conversation and get that weight off your shoulders. If you have nobody to talk to about it, I will share with you my stories and listen to yours.
@ottoweininger81563 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcNeal-fg9bd you're a good man. I wish you all the best.
@georgecoull18833 жыл бұрын
When it happened to me I was 9 . I told my mother because I was afraid to tell my dad. The man was found dead at his home of an overdose. No my dad didn't do anything.the guy was dying of liver cancer and was facing 7-11 year's in prison for rape of a girl and 2 other boy's . Only charged for 1 case. I'm 37 with 2 kid's and I'm super overprotective of them and held them back on doing thing's, so this is still affecting my life to this day. These people should be castrated and sterilized
@thizzguy10183 жыл бұрын
It's hard George, it truly is. Good luck my man.
@jeann22643 жыл бұрын
I agree. Upon being found guilty, along with doing time, they should also castrate and sterilize these perverts!
@terrypeters86823 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what happened to me. I have never told anyone due to embarrassment. It is sometimes a very sick world.
@douca13 жыл бұрын
Now you have told thousands. Good for you. Now forgive that person and be free. It took me 50yrs to forgive. Many fantasies of killing this man.
@terrypeters86823 жыл бұрын
Thank you The hate runs so deep for so long. To be free is the only thing I want. @@douca1
@aurwood683 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry it happened to you..
@xXelitegpXx3 жыл бұрын
I’m thankful there’s people strong enough to speak about such topics because we have a lot to learn about human behavior, in every aspect.
@bluesman09033 жыл бұрын
I had this happen when I was about 7 by a uncle, more than once, about 2 years later (1968-69), he was hit and killed while walking in the road to get gas for his car, the driver was drunk, but I seen this as justice, this incident has haunted me my whole life. I can see where someone would want to kill the offender. I wish I was given the opportunity to confront my uncle, not sure what I'd say, but i wish I was given that chance.
@Sarcasmtomasksadness2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry I hope you can find peace and healing
@bluesman09032 жыл бұрын
@@Sarcasmtomasksadness Thank you,
@MsSimpleMovies2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you were violated like that, and that you carry it with you. As for that "human" garbage: Good riddance to bad rubbish.
@MFPanduh3 жыл бұрын
That was incredibly powerful. He admitted illegal activity and still called out his abuser. My upmost respect.
@Logan_932 жыл бұрын
Utmost*
@thatguyhijolly63163 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read this piece but I’m a cop and I’m striving to become a child crimes detective (not there yet) one of the first things I’ve learned from the detectives I’ve met is that most of the time when these predators say “oh well I got molested as a kid so I became a molester” they’re lying because that’s a popular myth due to shows like criminal minds and law and order, it’s true sometimes but the majority of the time they’re lying and fishing for sympathy, these people are master manipulators don’t feel bad for them.
@sweetazzmofo2 жыл бұрын
Counseled many of these men. It is a disorder, not something learned.
@bluesman09032 жыл бұрын
Thank you, because of this misconception of child molesters I debated for years ""do I want to have kids", just because of this. well I had to wonderful boys, adults now, and I never had the urge to even think about molesting them, it's just a bullshit excuse, I'm in my 60's now with 4 Grandkids who i love dearly. I have never told my sons about being molested when I was a child, for fear I wouldn't be able to see them because of this misconception, I still don't know if I should tell them, I think it would be hard for them to wrap their brains around this. And Sir, I hope you catch all of these POS's.
@theconiferoust95983 жыл бұрын
It is amazing: the dynamics of pain, truth, and power and how interconnected they are. It is beautiful to see the strength and reverence for truth of someone who has seen such pain.
@scottsoward3 жыл бұрын
Deep and powerful conversation/ topic. Good to have to this discussed open and honestly, and therapeutic for those who've gone through similar horror.
@ocvp_tx69513 жыл бұрын
I would NEVER leave my kid alone with anyone who’s not my wife
@genmapi3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone's a devil. Society will not run without trust and faith.
@salter843 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who experienced this as well, you can never be too careful. Rapists & molesters are brazen. It happened by my own family, so, it’s hard to trust anyone with your children.
@ocvp_tx69513 жыл бұрын
@@genmapi sorry but based on my own experience you can’t trust anyone. Better safe than sorry.
@ocvp_tx69513 жыл бұрын
@@salter84 same here, please be very careful who you trust your kids with
@SarahMc5853 жыл бұрын
@@salter84 I’m So sorry someone betrayed your trust like that. I hope you can heal from that wound xo
@mskatonic13 жыл бұрын
My husband was raped by his brother for some time when they were young. The dude is now some "macho" type and the golden child in the family. My husband still struggles to this day.
@viidakkomehu95333 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear, must be hella hard for you and your husband. But ill give the same advice i gave this other guy... "without judging urself or the experience, i suggest you go through the emotions it brings to u, its not gonna be easy but you can do it." when i say you, i mean ur husband.
@aurwood683 жыл бұрын
This is horrible..
@snowbunny7832 жыл бұрын
Very sorry for your husbands trauma. Out the son of a bitch. Give him exactly what he deserves
@lopezrealestateservices3 жыл бұрын
Joe love you for the guests you have on. This guy is super brave, the guest, and honorable.
@danthegreat97903 жыл бұрын
I’ was 13 years old when it happened to me. I am now 24. There doesn’t go a day where I don’t recall those memories even when I don’t want to think about it that day plays in my head.
@danthegreat97903 жыл бұрын
@@AhFeiLee I tried going and didn’t like being inside a small room the way they looked at me and asked questions made me feel like they were judging/blaming me
@physicalmediaempire83983 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Stay strong and always keep moving forward.
@viidakkomehu95333 жыл бұрын
without judging urself or the experience, i suggest you go through the emotions it brings to u, its not gonna be easy but you can do it.
@sunshine39143 жыл бұрын
@@danthegreat9790 Try writing or speaking it out even if in an empty room. It will help towards healing. There’s also probably a hotline you could call.
@danthegreat97903 жыл бұрын
@@viidakkomehu9533 I’ve tried doing so and the only feeling going through are strong feelings of anger and hatred
@sam-cs7ne3 жыл бұрын
Very strong individual, talking about being raped knowing millions will see it. Can’t even imagine
@igot5onit4233 жыл бұрын
The Eminem effect
@berto37453 жыл бұрын
It’s worth hearing and seeing the whole podcast...such respect to these two guys. Towards the end when there’s a moment of silence between Joe and David. Powerful!!
@l.hutsonspe10073 жыл бұрын
You are brave on so many levels David Holthouse. Mind-blowing. Thank you truly for sharing.
@wolfman84493 жыл бұрын
I did NOT expect what this podcast ended up being when I clicked on it I went into it wanting JRE back on youtube because I miss squatch and UFOs and I came out still wanting JRE back on youtube but because I miss these long deep and thoughtful convos with interesting people that have lead fascinating lives.
@Papa1Smurf13 жыл бұрын
Kinda puts some of the other guests complaints into perspective, doesn’t it? 🙃
@nathan46783 жыл бұрын
What do you mean
@areyoutheregoditsmedave3 жыл бұрын
Demi lavato?
@Catlady-mw4en3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I think it puts most everyone’s complaints into perspective.
@piercepluenneke74383 жыл бұрын
By that nobody should be able to bring light to anything bad because fuckin Syria exists. One uping others issues is a really dumb thing to do not to mention one uping on other peoples behalf. Are you not dead or dying? You have no right to feel any negative emotions then!! Brilliant.
@issaggg10873 жыл бұрын
shut up and give me my yogurt!
@Cocarat2063 жыл бұрын
This guys film is amazing and I had to pause this episode and binge it before I could continue. Worth it.
@DMWBN33 жыл бұрын
Hard hitting, I'll go to Spotify for the full story.
@thessalymeteora37893 жыл бұрын
Heavy stuff man. Heavy.
@stephaneprevost_19673 жыл бұрын
Ouf, that was intense... i'm little upside down right now. That is how powerful it was. And I was never abused.
@taylorlibby76423 жыл бұрын
I found out 2 years ago that my abuser had died on my birthday the year before.
@thekosmokramer3 жыл бұрын
howd they die?
@shineboxofiran18993 жыл бұрын
@@thekosmokramer he stabbed himself in the back 40 times and jumped of da bridge.
@taylorlibby76423 жыл бұрын
@@thekosmokramer Natural causes according to the obituary. I was on the other side of the country at the time.
@F_And3 жыл бұрын
@@shineboxofiran1899 got clintonef
@taylorlibby76423 жыл бұрын
@P Harrell Honestly wasn't happy or sad about it. More disappointed that I never got to confront them myself.
@travisduvernay22413 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that I grew up in Juneau and have never heard of him. Good on him for learning to cope with this.
@darkwhitemoon3 жыл бұрын
I can’t cry, but just now I cried so deeply
@SarahMc5853 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@DirtyWorka3 жыл бұрын
Powerful headline. Had to watch instantly
@kashaw333 жыл бұрын
Even the most difficult thing's should be talked about! It's part of the healing process.
@frqbkpsa45943 жыл бұрын
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@jplauche3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to check out the whole interview.
@santaclaus30773 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of Joe's top podcasts hes ever done.
@mushroomlasers74703 жыл бұрын
I've seen the adapted play off broadway called, "The niteman cometh".
@TrainnWheelz3 жыл бұрын
Ooooahhhahhhhh
@KerioFive3 жыл бұрын
@@TrainnWheelz Dayman!
@ianmcconnell70933 жыл бұрын
Gotta pay the troll toll!
@oc74553 жыл бұрын
Gotta pay the trolls toll
@frqbkpsa45943 жыл бұрын
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@Burgmannn3 жыл бұрын
Now stuff like this made me a longtime listener.
@KajiCarson3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this guy's essay over a decade ago in high school, it was that good.
@jean-mikail72073 жыл бұрын
i appreciate this guy’s courage
@DragonNo13 жыл бұрын
Great story! One that is worth listening more than once. It touched me. Abused children suffer great trauma. Trauma is part of our human condition. Either we can cope with it and become better human beings, or repeat it and propagate it. I don't know if David did the right thing, but what he did made me think about how I can become a better version of myself..
@readytoworkboulder3 жыл бұрын
Damn, and I thought my life was complicated....
@MagicManAleister7 ай бұрын
This came at the perfect time in my feed. I recently found 2 of my abusers on FB and am working though how to even approach this and eventually confront them.
@cashmoneyx93723 жыл бұрын
My abuser died in a car crash about 4 months ago. Kinda sad because I too wanted to take him out myself but at peace because no other child will be molested by him in particular, still dealing with the anger and depression and drug use. But I have a lot to work on,
@Rissy6173 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry Angelo. Thank you for sharing your story. You are a survivor. I hope you can continue your healing journey. You're not alone ❤️
@princetulip82702 жыл бұрын
In your shoes still. Hard to imagine this rage will ever end.
@JimmyValmer853 жыл бұрын
Wtf, man. Dude was into the rave scene; was an undercover neo-nazi; abused as a kid... One of the best episodes, ever! This dude is legit. Proper.
@spyjams0136 Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude abused as a kid so legit bro
@theresathompson91233 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he had named him if others might've come forward? I bet there were others. He just lied.
@lookSOflyLIKEme13 жыл бұрын
He later in the episode states it's been several ones.
@bkm27973 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, once they have predated they almost always Never stop until they are stopped by the law, or what this guys first decision was. Recently they just caught a ring of 400,000 child sexual predators through the dark web, after they have been caught they will spend little time in prison 2-3 yrs. no matter how heinous their crimes and released back into the public...insane.
@gurgleblaster22823 жыл бұрын
Naming him might have also damaged relationships in his life. How close was he to his family? was his perp family? there are so many things that we just dont have the context to. I respect his choice, coming forward is hard enough. Talking about it is hard enough. Thinking about it is hard enough. There is not telling how much fallout he would have faced on top of the trauma he is dealing with.
@Catlady-mw4en3 жыл бұрын
@@gurgleblaster2282 he probably wasn’t close to the rapist’s family, or he wouldn’t have needed to stalk or write a letter to get in touch. It sounds like he really just gave him the benefit of the doubt. It’s sad, but people are capable of unimaginable things, and they’re also capable of regret and being regular people. Sometimes the difference between good and evil in one person is just timing and circumstance.
@longlivegarybusey64093 жыл бұрын
@@bkm2797 That never happened. Don't make shit up.
@julianchavez44163 жыл бұрын
Goodness. Great podcast but very rough to hear. Being someone with this type of trauma slightly triggering but an absolute relief listening to this man knowing that you may not be alone.
@thewalkingdude87863 жыл бұрын
Honestly this was the best episode of JRE I've seen in a while
@siedhaholmes99453 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is powerful.
@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this story tracks exactly like my own life, by early 30s I had literally found and stalked him to the point of planning it all out. I never went through with it. And same age difference to, was classed as a juvenile , and we have since found out he was working with vulnerable children because his juvenile record was sealed and it was the early 80s before an actual register was in operation , I managed to stop that . But wow , men need to talk about this all other more . Much respect Joe
@laurenkoper40393 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. This man is fascinating.
@quicksilver2k973 жыл бұрын
This episode, if any, should be on KZfaq
@stevens27063 жыл бұрын
DAMN THAT WAS HEAVY!!
@alternativehealthandbeauty39283 жыл бұрын
How brave of him to come forward with this story. He may have made is easier for so many people to do the same.
@douca13 жыл бұрын
I agree. It happens more than you know.
@xtreme_survival78793 жыл бұрын
When you hear a man has been murdered and the police can't find a motive or a suspect, this is a possible scenario that I will consider.
@kelvindesilva44083 жыл бұрын
This was powerful to hear. I cant imagine the strength it takes not to give into his rage.
@Vitalbowhunting3 жыл бұрын
Joe asks question at the exact same time I’m saying in my head “I hope he asks this question”
@kskwerl683 жыл бұрын
16th street mall is def where I would expect this meeting to go down
@tameyourmonkeymind33823 жыл бұрын
Love you videos so much they have inpired me to start my own chanell so thank you
@laurenashley72962 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so intense and amazing and I think helpful for many who are scared to tell their story.
@leftfordead83363 жыл бұрын
My 3 sisters and brother were molested by our ex grandfather as children, whether I was or not I'm not exactly sure as my memories of that point in my childhood are not the best anymore being an adult. He's more than likely going to die in prison for those concerned as that's where he is currently but if by some chance of luck he doesn't, I'm waiting. What I would like to people to gather from this I suppose is that you never really know someone until it too late, watch over and protect your loved ones. Likewise there's no shame in being a victim of abuse and for those that need to hear it it get's better I promise you, if anyone ever needs someone to talk to you can reach out to me anytime.
@iii9782 жыл бұрын
how can someone be ex grandfather?
@leftfordead83362 жыл бұрын
@@iii978 he’s a child molestor serving time in prison. he’s not family anymore dude pretty simple actually
@iii9782 жыл бұрын
@@leftfordead8336 he is still your grandfather molestor or not. Pretty simple actually.
@leftfordead83362 жыл бұрын
@@iii978 real funny what does this add to my topic ? just trying to be a prick or what ? hope you never have to experience anything like this in your life
@iii9782 жыл бұрын
@@leftfordead8336 You just can't pick and choose like that you leftist for dead.
@phototron87803 жыл бұрын
Great documentary.
@adamlee10843 жыл бұрын
Which of his are they talking about?
@phototron87803 жыл бұрын
@@adamlee1084 Sasquatch on Amazon Prime
@MUN00K3 жыл бұрын
I know two guys who have been through this. I think it’s sadly common...
@christhomas83393 жыл бұрын
Conversation like this help to get closer to the problem, still a long way to go until we understand, but that’s because people are repelled from the empathy to try and understand. Definitely understandable, but hard to solve as a result.
@wotan109503 жыл бұрын
He DID subsequently name him in a follow up piece, primarily because the rapist turned out to have victimized several other people. Fwiw, I myself was sexually assaulted at age 13 in a movie theater by an older man. When the momentary opportunity came to escape, I ran like hell for my life. But surprisingly, it didn’t bother me that much…….and today I’m bothered by the fact that it didn’t bother me! I chalked it up at the time to just another pervert, preying on a young kid.
@HumanManufactured3 жыл бұрын
Finally some good content
@iancipollini95983 жыл бұрын
I was sexually assaulted by an older boy (I was 6-8 he was 14-16) over the course of years. I didn't tell my family till I was 28.
@jeann22643 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry! Peace be with you. Stay strong.
@keirachirello91952 жыл бұрын
Very brave. That must have been so difficult to carry that pain for so long
@superluminalsquirrel93592 жыл бұрын
Fellow Ian, I’m sorry you had to go through that but I admire your courage for telling the truth.
@PROV3it2 жыл бұрын
Great content joe
@bruhdon47483 жыл бұрын
The amount of boys who’ve been abused as children is insane & we wonder where this “toxic masculinity” comes from, usually a childhood full of abuse and trauma & the only way men can usually express themselves is through violence
@thomasbobinski41273 жыл бұрын
Damn that was too heavy for 7 in the morning but that ending was powerful, "It could be anyone".
@RPJs-Cuisine3 жыл бұрын
Going on Spotify tonight to watch full interview! Holy Shit!!!
@awesomeHOBO1173 жыл бұрын
Really missed your podcast on KZfaq really hard to get Spotify here in the country
@brainumb60783 жыл бұрын
I had this happen to me by a older female when I was ten, I’m lucky it didn’t completely fuck me up, I do deal with thing well I think, but the pain in my heart when I here this happen to young ppl is what I can’t handle, it so common
@mc26collum3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to bury it since he's a family member. Most of the time, it's successful but once every few years I break down.
@therugburnz3 жыл бұрын
Thanx Dave
@heatherwhitehead37433 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened to you. God bless you
@Jess-kn8vl3 жыл бұрын
Facebook or other social media is hard for survivors. Either someone you know is friends with these abusers or your own curiosity seeks them out. Its complicated grief, social media triggers my PTSD I cant even be on there. This guy is so brave for telling his story I totally get why he wanted revenge to get "rid of" the threat. He said he is also drawn to darker stories where it could be repetition compulsion, to subconsciously have a victory over the original wound. I have also put myself in situations where I could have been victimized again and it took almost 2 decades to understand why. My heart goes out to all survivors out there 💛
@ianwinn75783 жыл бұрын
Lovely sentiment. You're brave too for confronting your own demons.
@mothermurdererpodcaster Жыл бұрын
Yes 💯
@Tracydot33 жыл бұрын
Rapists don't only do it once. But everyone deals with trauma differently so I can't fault this guy for choosing not to name him. It's his decision and he knows what's best for him.
@maebandy3 жыл бұрын
Everyone experiences traumatic events. Ultimately, what heals us is to feel connected and heard by others rebuilding our trust in humanity. Vengeance becomes mostly a solo mission. Outing your abuser to the shouts of an angry horde only redirects the focus towards them and future violence which creates more pain, shame, and human isolation. We are all part of a fragmented hive mind seeking to repair its broken bonds. Abuse is a betrayal of care, we want to know how, why we were left unprotected and if we can be safe again. Sending a part of our psyche out on a kill mission means less protection guarding the gate and certainly a band of damaged mercenaries upon return. Compassionate kills are sometimes necessary but they are supposed to be the responsibility of their community because these criminals are a lesson, are a symptom, we're supposed to trace back the disease.
@Tracydot33 жыл бұрын
@@maebandy One of the main reasons to name abusers is to prevent them from hurting others and to help other people that abuser has hurt. Very rarely if ever do people do that just once. But if the survivor of abuse chooses not to name that person, it is their choice 100%. We are in charge of our healing journey.
@sunshine39143 жыл бұрын
He eventually named him after finding out he wasn’t his only victim.
@maebandy3 жыл бұрын
@@Tracydot3 yes, name them for yourself, to call the devil by his name. But not to feed a crowd who would rather hunt down an evil than deal with their own discomfort and sit with the wounded.
@timbuckll3 жыл бұрын
I really like the new look of the studio.
@misterx47573 жыл бұрын
Dude is powerful. Hope he's healed.
@brandonc1273 жыл бұрын
At least you spoke up and didn’t drown like I did man. Kudos
@tumpnewmedia54173 жыл бұрын
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@daftnord49573 жыл бұрын
it's too bad real comments get crapped on by bots
@cryforthemoon3 жыл бұрын
I still think about murdering my abuser even though he already killed himself over 15 years ago. Trying to avoid prison.
@bobmateljan69863 жыл бұрын
That's how abuse perpetuates it is what a child learns and becomes damaged by and the cycle continues. Break the cycle. That goes for untreated mental illness of many kinds also - discover the truth, understand it, learn about it, admit it, treat it, and help end the cycle.
@youngmoneycashheavy3 жыл бұрын
Love the the new background but that sign to big lmao aye Rogan u got me hooked on ur show again
@StonkeyDomp3 жыл бұрын
"Give them nothing, take from them everything!"
@ozz76023 жыл бұрын
I'm with you SIRE.. FOR HONOUR FOR FREEDOM... TO THE DEATH..
@animiefansHQ3 жыл бұрын
little confused bc david actually ended up naming the abuser on a follow up essay, bc he found out the scumbag had abused several other children as well, was this mentioned later in the podcast?
@BADLUX3 жыл бұрын
4:20 I immediately thought of the restaurant scene in Sleepers