Still waiting for real scientific debate …….get discussion Until the jab comment Waiting waiting waiting ….

Love listening to David Starkey, great to see him back.....such a great academic should never be silenced, we need more intelligent people in our society...God knows we need them!

Important and serious discussions tend to be controversial and insensitive.

Fascinating discussion... up to the point of the Vx ination. Anyone who forces anything on to anybody for any reason is either a bully, tyrant or has an interest in the outcome financial or otherwise. If he DS had done as much independent research as he has in relation to his own subject of history then perhaps he too may have come to a point in the storyline that something 'ain't quite right'... is he aware of the Reset and NWO?

@@metgirl5429 I think you’re in the wrong place if you were hoping for scientific debate.

As an Indian I second your rejection of political correctness. The nastiest bits are getting swept under the rug, in order to fit certain deceitful political objectives.

Slavery have existed in pretty much every ancient empire in every continent in it's different forms. What the white people did in Europe was nothing remarkable or especially cruel in bigger picture compared to what has happened everywhere else. Like e.g. in Aztec empire which used slaves as one of their main sacrificial resource. Arabs and Ottomans on the other hand used both Europe and Africa as their source for all kinds of slaves for hundreds of years. From fighters to workers to sex slaves they used, and also sold to others. Like to European nations in later times. It was not called Ottoman slave empire for nothing. Difference is that at point when European nations started to rise in global power, they had developed both maritime and warfare technology to a new level which gave them advance over other most contemporary powers so that they could expand their empires more easily around the globe than anyone had done before them and they had firepower to subjugate others from America to Asia, if anyone else wanted to prevent them doing that. Vikings had already done similar things, pillaging resources, taking and trading slaves, exploring and colonizing new continents before, but in smaller scale. They had colonies e.g. in Newfoundland and Greenland, but they did in hundreds of years before Europeans with much more limited technology and support, thus their colonies seemed to fail. Too far off with no support and supply routes with smaller vessels. But for modern woke left there was none of this, they only focus on things white Europeans did. Like slavery and slave trade had not been commonplace all around long before Europe even had anything to call as empires.

Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon Of Akkad) did an excellent, long video on the real history of slavery several years ago. Among other things I learned was that, at one stage, the richest man in the world was an African king whose kingdom's economy was based almost entirely on the taking and selling of slaves. Another point that occurred to me is that we don't hear about slavery in the East. I find it hard to believe that there was no slavery in the Chinese empires, or the various kingdoms between India and China, but this is never talked about. Why?

How refreshing to hear this thank you

Well, actually is not an obscure or conspiracy theory. It´s well known and recognized by historians : Roma, The USA and pre -contemporary Muslim world (mainly the Otoman Empire) have been the more brutal Slavery based Civilizations on Earth. What Mister Starkey forgot to mention was the genocide committed on Native Americans, the substrate upon which the slavery in America was applied.

Yes. One of those people always worth listening to even if you think you'll disagree.

What's wrong with marmite

@@lumeronswift it's too expensive!

Not so. Marmite is terrible.

I used to dislike him intensely, but I was wrong to dismiss him without actually understanding him

And yet Starkey was very quick to dismiss Disraeli's "genius" whilst exalting Gladstone's. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Disraeli being Jewish.

Or gammon, or boomer... skin colour and ageism. These people are nice.

@@Torquemadia Sorry sir, for anti-semitism I am sure there is a Jeremy Corbyn channel somewhere around youtube. All jokes aside. I have listend to a lot of David Starkey over the years but I have never heard him say anti-semitic things. Could you point me somewhere where he explicitely says otherwise?

@@grumbeard I suggest you re-read what I said earlier.

@@Torquemadia Disraeli’s father forsake Judaism and Disraeli himself was raised Christian most of his life and even viewed it politically advantageous to be Christian so I’m gonna say his disagreements with Disraeli have little to do with disraeli’s familial Jewish traditions

Poetic and so very true. U said what I feel 😉

well said, oxygen indeed.

Best gay ever

Absolutely

@C K cut back on that soy milk, CK.. you'll be sprouting breasts before you know it.

A brave man, he gives me hope

@@johnglenn2539 after Douglas murray

Fear of ruin is cowardice.

@@jonahtwhale1779 That's not reality.

@@jonahtwhale1779 for some yes, but not absolutely. If speaking yo means your kids go hungry or worse CPS comes and takes your kids, you would hesitate too.

Your comment makes me think of the Lockdowns. I rarely wore a mask so one day I went to Walmart. I didnt wear a mask and I heard a couple behind me talking. Man: well he (me) isnt wearing one. Woman: shut up and wear one

It's such a shame for you. I've paid off my mortgage and handed my house to my kids, so I have a home but no property. I can say and do what the hell I want now... But it's been a bumpy road!

Bill burr’s old bit about that is so accurate - ‘if only we’d put the ‘f*ck’ after instead of before there wouldn’t be a problem!’

that was absolutely my first reaction aswell. looking forward to hearing him explain.

Yeah, but you have to remember, his political opponents will look for any excuse to shut him down. As always, points should be the subject of a debate, not the words used to get a point across. Lefties are intellectually dishonest whenever the facts are not on their side.

Meno Yano I am a person of pale colour, and I concur with everything that you said. Explain the context by what you meant , but why apologise ( unless as you said , it was meant in the was it was interpreted)

@@fossehigh Unfortunately he was thrown under the bus by Darren Grimes who issued a fulsome apology. If Grimes was so troubled by what Dr Starkey said, he should have edited the interview before releasing it.

That's what I thought, too.

@@boudicca9807 I stopped listening to Darren Grimes after that.

@@lydiamalone1859 Me too.

Starkey can boil the piss of the leftards without breaking a sweat. I love him!

@@royhypnol3735 saying let's go Brandon boils their piss too apparently! Bizarre that they're not too keen on LGB! 😁

@@royhypnol3735 who's that in your profile picture?

I love his history programmes - he has me captivated!

The lads not only let their guests talk without interruption but also listen to what they say and make intelligent and often insightful comments - a rare quality in mainstream media nowadays (although it used to be fairly common), but permitted by the Internet, fortunately.

I dare anyone to try and interrupt Starkey

Yep.

@@sicparvismagna5786 Starkey is a historian, not a virologist. He's also a nationalist, which taints his historical objectivity.

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@@fionagregory9376 we all know what he means! Who cares if there's an e missing!

@@andrewcheadle948 because lax spelling is becoming widespread, and it's not the right way.

he can talk about anything..he is astounding

@@sunnyroad5644 other than covid, about which he should probably stfu

These "covid injections" aren't vaccines, but Starkey seems to be ignorant of this.

maybe blunt & honest even waaay bsck then was being mislabelled

Could you please share a link to his channel? Thank you

@@GoldSilverShop - David Starkey’s channel is called ‘David Starkey Talks’ - good luck -Marion

Yes, there is always a Good Battle to be fought. At least to buy time until the right times comes, if not to win it outright.

Ever considered writing it out?

There are fewer younger people (native) we have been brainwashed not to have children, we will pay for this hence why this crazy time is upon us, we have no real force to fight back, against anything. And the evil forces know this.

@@domfrancis3140 It is always determined, ruthless minorities which move the affairs of man. You shouldn’t be so defeatist.

@@angusmcangus7914 you are absolutely right, "where there is a will, there is a way." And God is on our side, we must always have faith. Thanks 😊 for pulling me back....a little lapse.

@@darcyperkins7041 Not the mRNA ones.

I agree. Previous flu vaccinations are suspect as well. Now that our eyes have opened, we need to question & investigate everything - especially if there's a profit component.

Oh lord 🙄 That word is far to overused ! In a nation of fat cowards hiding in there overpriced homes being heroic isn’t bloody hard is it !

Love listening to David, he is so right in all he says, from a white English Christian lady & so damn proud of my culture, history & country.

What is he correct on?

The notion of the value of freedom of speech

@@uioplkhj we’re at war with an ideology. Narrowing it down will be difficult.

@@uioplkhj not on the covid 'vaccine', that's for sure

@v v yes he backed off a bit when KK challenged him on it. I sense that Dr. Starkey knows he’s not speaking from a position of knowledge when it comes to covid vaccines.

My thoughts exactly!

The Streisand Effect always applies. Whenever I see the Left attempting to cancel someone, it just makes me want to hear what they have to say. And that is because the Left want to censor influential people who oppose their ideology. And they will use any excuse they can.

He was on a (giant Swiss) Roll right there ...sublime to listen to.👏

I concur. It's unimaginable nowadays that Starkey was a regular on 'Question Time' and other BBC programmes. And that was only 2-3 years ago. I honestly think that our national broadcaster has completely lost the majority of our population.

Another voice banned by the BBC (because he stood up for Starkey) is Neil Oliver. He has done certain archaeological programs for the BBC, but now he's concerned about very modern topics. I find it troubling that some of Britain's, if not the world's, best historians are ignored and even punished when they voice their alarm for the way things are going.

Cancel your TV licence. The way that the BBC will learn is when the vast sums of wedge they fleece from the populous in exchange for their biased brainwashing rubbish, starts to dry up!

Join his you- tube channel and get the opportunity.

Some would say he has a giant fucking sack.

Yep, and we all need to nut up and take a page from his playbook.

Spot on. I wont dispute his intellect but he always comes across as a complete arsehole

I am a huge fan, and have been for decades, however I was disappointed with his totallitarian position on experimental drugs.

Agreed. Also the faith in the medical society was different then as well as the rigor of testing and time allowance before blanket use.

He too is probably scared of his own mortality, hence why he seemed to do a 180 on most of what he had previously said in the interview. These "covid injections" aren't vaccines at all, but he seems ignorant of this.

@@charlottetaylor4471 good point.

I agree with you completely on the compulsory vaccines

@@nickbrodziak611 then, thank goodness you’re not in charge of anything

Shame it took you this long to get him back on.

Starkey er fantastisk

I remember being upbraided by my Victorian-style presbyterian minister's wife grandmother as a kid for using the word 'damn', apparently sounding like Humphrey Bogart, heaven forbid. Jim Goad's description of the woke as the new Church ladies couldn't be more accurate.

It's only "dumb" in the sense that provided easy fodder for the ninnies of the world.

@@DoctorHemi ^ this. It allowed ideologically rotten zealots to intentionally misinterpreted it to do a coordinated hatchet job on him.

*couch* *cough* compulsory vaccination *cough*

We've never immunised during a pandemic. As the Belgium Geert Van den Bosch pointed out, what better way to select for vaccine resistant strains than to mass vaccinate with an only partially effective vaccine during the height of a pandemic.

He compares the conventional vaccines with these new experimental gene therapies, either wilfully or ignorantly!

@Kara Gray They rarely push back on their more right wing interviewee's.

But he's a dying breed. Within the next generation all those like him will have passed on. I don't think the rest of us will do as well as he's doing. It's going to get worse.

He wasn't cancelled for that .It was just the excuse.He was far more dangerous as an intelligent older white man who feared no one.

He's a genius in the way Orwell was. Orwell explained that his talent was an ability to confront uncomfortable truths honestly. This is a scarce commodity in a vicious ideological war , where our enemies occupy the fortresses and high-ground. Fortunately , as Feynman said ,you can't fool nature.

Absurd contradiction of his assertion of valuing freedom.

Very well said Amanda,he was a hero of mine regarding his straight forward history teaching's but after hearing him berate us unjabbed he's finished in my eyes

Oh fuck please tell me he does not believe that

There are no valid scientific reasons not to be vaccinated. Stop being emotional about your conspiracy theories and you'll see that.

@@jeffsparey9585 wow, you're vax-woke, aren't you?

he has fallen into the trap of believing these vaccines are as preventative as the polio vaccines. Surprising someone so bright has such a blind spot and I wished KK had the opportunity to push back on it more but Starkey didn't give him the chance

Yes, after a lifetime of hero worship, I am bitterly disappointed. So sad that someone who has great intellect, cannot see how unethical it is to mandate experimental medical procedures. He was born just after WW2, which brings many boomer tropes to mind.

The state does not own your body no matter what type of society it controls nor whether David Starkey says it should

But isn't it refreshing that those who disagree with him in response to your comment aren't demanding that he be cancelled? We can agree to disagree and in the spirit of debate that's a healthy thing. And who knows, maybe Mr. Starkey will think more deeply on the subject and come back with another take on things.

This is where we have to remember what generation he belongs. Many of Trumps short comings were weak points of his generation. Putting in "historical context " helps us keep things in perspective

That's supposed to be the Queen's motto - which is amusing, given that Starkey is an old queen himself!

They weren’t the first though were they. 😉

@@Matmus indeed they were not abs they were also quite quick to distance themselves. People don’t forget things like that and that’s why I think it would be good addressing the reasons they think he was/is a racist.

@@PibrochPonder I agree Jim. I wish they’d been more direct and factual in what David was accused of in that he apparently has a history of subtle bigotry. Racism is stupid and for dummy’s (which is actually one of my thoughts in Starkey defence because to me it doesn’t make sense that a highly intelligent person would think less of people because of the colour of their skin) but I also think like you said the way many of these supposed anti woke channels of reason essentially threw Starkey to the dogs cheapened them for me, everyone talks about backbone but there was little of it when the incident happened. As I remember the guys disavowed his comments in the strongest terms and yet if they truly felt like that why didn’t they push for answers in this conversation? Unfortunately I think the truth was they were scared of not disavowing which I think is hypocritical considering the advice they give to others (self preservation maybe) and it also shows that the woke still have a very powerful card when it comes calling out racism, rightly and wrongly that seems to make most turn yellow. No ones perfect but it did make me think a little less of them.

@@Matmus I remember a very long and controversial conversation on Trig with Saint Birbilsingh soon after the notorious interview. I was hoping for a full discussion of Birbilsingh's allegations.

@@boudicca9807 could you tell me more?

But KK says Voldermort bad.

it is mindboggling really. With his wealth of knowledge, IQ, and first hand experience of how history is written and many times adjusted, he simply decides to blindly trust a presented science he knows very little about but must be aware there are the same dangers of various motivations of men. His argument against body autonomy is truly weak. So we can have all these eloquent academic debates about the importance of body autonomy in western democracy when it does not matter, but the moment it matters he says - i'm sorry you live in a society, your body our choice. Not to mention 99% survival rate for the most of the population and the fact the long term side effects are unknown.

I hear ya...I dont think he's on the money with that issue either

I completely agree. Absolutely it cannot be compared to vaccines who had gone through long term trials. His attitude reminded me of trans activist. It is not enough to decide to take the vaccine, but to think your decision gives you the right to compel others. Certainly to desire others to be given experimental medical procedures they don't want, is more sinister than compelled speech.

@@bobibufi1389 Agreed, and if it were polio he would at least have more of an argument but it’s not polio because of all the reasons you mentioned. And because of all the knowledge that we’ve gained since 1918 it’s not even the Spanish flu. My concern is more with the loss of meaning in peoples lives and their need for God. A society that holds materialism, wealth as the top of the hierarchy will inevitably yearn for more there’s always a pull toward oneness, love. “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Agreed on all counts

@Chase Williams - My appreciation for the Brits is improving each day.

I'm Australian and Starkey began appearing in historical documentaries in the 1970s I believe. I have many of his books on the Tudors. However, I was profoundly disappointed in his totallitarian position on the vaccine.

@@grannyannie6744 - Agree. We can’t all be perfect.

@@grannyannie6744 look up what happened with polio in the 1950's in the UK, I think that's influenced his view.

@@joycegibbs5267 I'm sure you're right. But here it's mandatory to be jabbed to work, not just nurses, everybody, and a sizable minority are suffering. To side with mandatory vaccination here is rather like saying, that your a proud member of the Gestapo and you believe genocide is important.

I think he is too afraid to expose himself to criticism on all fronts!

You enjoy hypocrisy, obviously.

@@davidwhite4874 hypocrisy? So, would you prefer that he be an anti- vaxxer?

@@corb5654 And there you go. Using the very language your hero disparages.

@@davidwhite4874 I have no hero's, and surely words shouldn't hurt as much as you seem to imply.

Oh dang. No one is perfect. But I know old people were targeted for the terror campaign.

He was misinformed on that point. The data suggests that the vaccine doesnt stop the spread at all. But we dont need it to. It does what its supposed to, greatly reduces the risk of serious illness and death. The fact that number of positive cases are still reported on a daily basis is about nothing more than control. The vaccine works, lets get back to normal.

@@davidkelly499 How is it greatly reducing death? From the end of July we had daily numbers of death attributed to Covid-19 up to ten times at the same time last year - long before the injections. So how have they helped?

@@davidkelly499 Majority of cases in hospital are double vaccinated. This "vaccine" doesn't help with the mild flu, it's a rushed product to make billions for the pharmaceutical companies and nothing more.

@@Lothnar5070 So you say majority of cases. That could be 51%. But 90% of the adult population is vaccinated. Unless the percentage of double vaxed in hospital is higher than the percentage of the vaccinated population then it seems like a useless stat. Can you provide an evidence for these stats btw? From second hand accounts from health professionals what I have heard doesnt back up what youve said.

@@monsieurlewop My response was removed by youtube for some reason? Im afraid to say that you have your facts wrong.

Grated on me too!

@@kelvincasing5265 :: Badoom-tish!!