I appreciate your comments but I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. This was a comparison of Dawn and Elemonator. Agreed there are chemicals you can’t mix with bleach. Anyone that does this professionally should know what can be mixed and what can’t. Dawn will never work better than a soap that was formulated to work with bleach.

Thank you

Thanks for watching and commenting.

There’s a fine line for soap use on siding. Too much will equal extended timing in rinsing and possible spotting of soap from not being rinsed good enough. Pay close attention to windows and screens. Too little, it doesn’t stick and reducing the ability to work on the siding. Roofs are different. You can use more with little issues. I use slo mo for roofs and Elemonator for siding.

Yes

I don’t use the manifold for house washing, only roof cleaning and stronger mix projects. Just a quick note. The water at 100% is only 45-50% of your mix if the bleach is at 100% also. Soap is usually barely on. As you back down the bleach valve, the water pulls more which reduces the strength of your mix. The flow rates change depending on how you set your valves.

Typically no. If it’s really hot in the summer, I’ll rinse down the siding just to cool it.

Thanks for watching and commenting.

There are really good pro surfactants that cost the same as dawn, when both are bought 5 gal at a time. Elimonator is $102 vs dawn is $98- And you definitely use less true house wash than a DIY dawn deal (plus shipping on both items). So no, there is no cost comparison - the real stuff always wins hands down, that's why so many "labs" want to put one out. It's a win win.

Thanks for your insight.

I love my Elemonator. It out performs Dawn. I hear gain works in a pinch. I’d rather not use subpar products on my customer’s home. They get the very best. No cutting corners here.

I'm a Elemonator hater used and was not impressed. I use Kings Kling from Doug Rucker Store. If I'm not using King's Kling I'll be using Purex Natural Elements laundry detergent.

Weird it didn’t work for you. Appreciate the comments and sharing your experiences.

Oh it definitely worked don't get me wrong! And believe it or not I actually hate to have to speak bad about. My issues is that it doesn't work better than King's Kling or Snotmenade and because Pressure Tek has a stupid 30 dollar minimum. It's more expensive than King's Kling and Snotmenade after shipping. It doesn't live up to the pedestal that a lot of Elemonator fanboys hyped it up to. I used it because people told me it was better than what I was using and it worked the same no difference other than it smelled like fcking lemons and it cost more money. And just to get 1 gallon I also had to buy a pressure washing tip that I don't need and that I'll probably never use. I won't ever buy from Pressure Tek again as long as they have that stupid minimum. Price per gallon after calculated shipping 1 gallon of Elemonator+ Pressure tip $50.51 1 gallon of King's Kling $42.02 1 gallon of Snotmenade $45.58

Thanks again for sharing. I can see where one gallon definitely would not be very cost effective. I buy a couple of fivers at a time and shipping is less. I may order a 55 in the spring. We go through tons of soap. I don’t think Elemonator is the end all. If I found something better and more cost effective, I’d try it to see how it stacks up against Elemonator. This has worked.

To clarify, are you saying you can do 128 houses on one of those 5g buckets? I mean is this new bucket your second or third bucket ever?

Sorry I didn’t see this comment. Hope you are well.

That’s a good question for Pressure Tek. It does rinse well.

I downstream straight and add 1 ounce per gallon. You may need to add water if using a smaller machine. Mine is 8 GPM

I believe Pressure Tek has this in sample packs. Reach to them on their contact form.

It’s always in my bleach tank. We do use a proportioner for our soft wash system.

In would highly recommend not using your pressure washer on a roof. Gain original liquid laundry soap will work in a pinch. I use SH in my mix as suggested by the manufacturer of roofing material. You need a dedicated pump for roof cleaning. There are a lot of video on this subject. Check out Southeast softwash. They put out decent roof cleaning videos. Hope that helps. I appreciate the comments.

@@ExpertPowerWash thank you for your reply. After doing some research, I got some Snotmenade from Southside Equipment. Do you see any issues with using a pump -up sprayer to apply the roof chemicals? Thank you!

@@jeffdavis7150 pump up sprayer will definitely work. It will just be a lot more time consuming with coming down the ladder to refill. It will get the job done.

@@jeffdavis7150 I use a pressure washer for roofs,but never I mean NEVER use pressure.Get a jrod or adjustable soap tip only for roofs as pressure will ruin shingles..Apply soap,rinsing is optional but I prefer a water hose or jrod rinse afterwords

@@dameronlyon6740 If you do the "xjet mod" (plenty of YT vids on how to), you will find a much better experience. I use a 50' pickup hose on a modded gun. It's like downstreaming but you can go just over 5% with a 16%sh and a 8 gpm machine pretty easy. Leave the bucket on the ground, it's a game changer and makes life so easy.

Thanks for watching. There definitely is a difference when it comes to using a soap that’s designed for what we do.

@@ExpertPowerWash The fact that you have such a strong bias going into the video makes the "comparison" as pointed out by GEH, a bit disingenuous. Someone could just as easily make a video saying how much better dawn is because so many things "designed for the industry" are just more expensive due to the pink tax anyway, no matter what industry you're in. There's everything from "gamer" foam panels and "extra high speed" gold plated HDMI cables to sound systems that can play 10% outside of human hearing range and then the even "better" ones that can play 30% outside the human hearing range... Then there's the "top of the line" that plays so far out of human hearing range that your dolphins will also love it! Here, I know nothing about the elemonator, but let me give you my talking points for the video I am about to make about why it's a big rip off titled, "Dawn VS Elemonator" - The first ingrediant in these so-called "professional" solutions is water, so you know right there they are ripping you off - It's marketed towards "soft washing" so people trying to make money will think they have to buy it or they won't be able to justify their pricing to clients even though it's just fancy dish soap. - It is a surfactant. Surfactants are compounds that lower the surface tension (or interfacial tension) between two liquids, between a gas and a liquid, or between a liquid and a solid. Surfactants may act as detergents, wetting agents, emulsifiers, foaming agents, or dispersants. What does that sound like to you? Dawn dish soap? That's right! It's basically just a foaming detergent. - Dawn is safe to wash baby ducks, so you know it's safe to wash into your plants and into the street - Elementor has a warning right on the bottle that says, "Read relevant MSDS precautionary information before using this product" Who knows what it's going to do to grandma's flowers! - Elementor has a level 2 hazard level to your health and even has first aid instructions on the bottle. Is that really what you want misting back down onto you while you're trying to clean?! -Elementor is "Not Legal for Purchase or Use in the State of California" - Do you want cancer, or do you want to use duck friendly dawn dish soap - a surfactant that is legal to use in California and doesn't have any health hazard warnings on the side? The choice is up to you! - Real professionals use skill and knowledge to get the job done right. Newbies buy elemonator because it's expensive so they think it's going to help them be better than they are. No wonder they jack the price up and fill the barrel 90% full of pure H2O! You just... do you understand how saying things about something that IS TRUE and then saying your opinion about that fact immediately afterward doesn't make your opinion any more [or less] valid. It just makes it Sound more valid. Which is bad, because you should be able to state your opinion and then back it up with facts, not state a fact and then commentate on it with no basis (see literally everything I said above that IS TRUE about Elementor and Dawn and how I made those true things make elemonator sound bad and Dawn sound better just by stating an opinion immediately after those facts, while delivering those facts with a tone of disapproval from the start).

@@Cfomodz - I see advices like these all the time with anything, not just with pressure washers. Home owners doing research will watch pro videos like this recommending to go overboard on anything all the time. Advices such as buy a $5,000+ mowers to cut a flat half acre lawn to save 10 minutes on cut time, buy the most powerful impact driver because it is able to drive a 12' bolt into hardwood, get a minimum 4 GPH for a machine the home owner will pull out 5 times a year, buy a gallon of a "pro" chemical for $50 to wash the house once a year, using only 30mL of the chemical and letting the rest go to waste. I see it all the time.

You see it because there is a difference

False.

One ounce of surfactant per gallon of house wash mix. As far as mix. I’d probably do 2/3 bleach to 1/3 water see how that works. Keep in mind, I use a 8 GPM and downstream straight SH. You will have to play with the mix and find what works.

Hello I was wondering what percentage sh do you use when down steaming? I tried straight 8.25 bleach from Walmart and down steamed on my 4gpm and just didn’t get the job done!!! Thank for your post

SoundOfSoul you need 12% SH (pool shock) to do the trick. 12% and I usually mix 50/50 with water and 1 oz of elemonater to each gallon of total mix. Amazing results always!!

Correct for 8 GPM. I know the 4 GPM draws a little stronger so you may need to dilute it down.

Don’t overthink it. In your example, 10% SH. Cut it in half, 50/50. That’s 5%. Add a little more water if you like. We are cleaning not creating an exact chemical compound. I hope that helps. I know we can get technical but the end goal is to clean and make money. Every time I chase a little water into my bleach tank from rinsing out the pump. It dilutes it. If it’s not cleaning, bump it up. If it’s cleaning almost immediately, bump it down.

@@ExpertPowerWash thanks I really appreciate

I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and state your opinion. There is no comparison between Dawn and Elemonator. You will see if you look through the comments, numerous others have tried to make the augment that Dawn works as well. Most have never even used Elemonator. I challenge you to try it. If you wash professionally, use professional products. Everyone is always looking for shortcuts or cheaper methods but get mad when they attract cheap customers. Everyone is entitled to position their business how they see fit. I do appreciate the comments and always welcome open positive discussions.

@@ExpertPowerWash I've used Elemonator in the past and it absolutely works, but the actual detergent is chemically identical to Dawn. I wouldn't have known this had it not been for this video, for what it's worth. But, it isn't just a dish washing detergent, nor is it just a house wash detergent. They are, simply put, detergents. Dawn is used in tons of other applications besides dishwashing, too (speaking from experience having worked for industrial suppliers).

Your input is appreciated.

Who needs mucus membranes

Thanks for watching and commenting.

There’s some comments recommending Arm and Hammer Oxi laundry detergent. I have no experience with this soap but have seen it talked about quite a bit and may be worth looking into. Shambalin sauce is another option and they are based out of CA. I don’t have links so you will have to look into it. The guys name is Trevor that makes it. Hope this is helpful and appreciate the comments.

Without surfactant, there’s nothing to help your bleach cling to the dirty surface. It helps with dwell time. Example, you wash a house which is a vertical surface. You need your solution to stick to the surface so it can work. Otherwise it would run right off. It does help with the cleaning process also.

@@ExpertPowerWash thanks for the info.

Thanks for watching and commenting.

Yes that’s what I’d do. We downstream out of our bleach tank so it always has soap in it. We recently switched to Apple Suds. It has all the same qualities but even more cost effective. Couldn’t be Elemonator in bulk.

That’s a great question. I wouldn’t use a pump up. Downstreaming is what I do. You can but it would be a tedious process. Downstream or dedicated pump is recommended. I use about 1% for house washing and pretreatment. That would be a 10:1 ratio. I use 12.5% so my ratio varies a bit depending on how my injector is pulling. You love the Elemonator. Thanks for watching.

If you are using a 10:1 ratio of 10% SH, and you go with 1 oz of surf per gallon of bleach., you would use .4oz of surfactant for a 4 gallon tank.

@@ExpertPowerWash Is soap recommended for drive ways or is a degreaser the better way to go?

We switched to a better soap since this video. Elemonator is decent but wasn’t available for bulk. We are enjoying the soap we have now. It’s our own brand and available locally.

Thank you! Appreciate you following the channel and commenting.

Cleaning houses

I agree. I’ve used several others and Elemonator has been by far the best. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Hopefully your comments are able to help and shed some light on all the dawn users.

Thank you for your testimony! It helped me.

I've seen guys have better results without using any soap at all LOL

I haven’t seen that

@@ExpertPowerWash Joe Deery has done it before.Ive heard of alot of guys just using SH to finish out a day.Works ok if need be. You will use a bit more because of the run off.

I still use Elemonator more. Apple wash is good for the proportioner because it’s thinner and works good as a color marker.

Thanks for commenting

5 gallon buckets of dawn are definitely not cheap..they have went way up over the last 5 years

I bet. Everything has gone up.

Yeah I just bought a bottle of dawn Ultra cause I ran out of elemonator and it doesn't say anything about bleach.

Good luck👍

Use good soap.

Expert Power Wash the pool shock I was looking into it’s a powder and it dissolves when you put it in water and this is what it says Active ingredient Trichloro-s-triaazinetrion....43.47% Other ingredients....56.53% (Available chlorine 40%) Is that good to use

Flix Production Do not use. I’ve ran across horror stories with people that have used this and ended up ruining property due to damage it caused to the surface. All I can do is suggest products that have worked from my experience.

Expert Power Wash oh wow I’m going to go back to Walmart and take it back I found I store by me that have the 12% SH 4 gallon for $16 so I’m going to go get that and I have a 5 gallon Bucket do put 1 gallon 12% 4 gallon of water and 5oz of dawn and I can do a two story house ?

I’d honestly do more research before washing. There are so many variables. I’ve spent 100s hours of research before ever going into the field. Research and then practice on your own house or family. $16 for four gallons is expensive but better than what you first suggested. And again, I can’t recommend dawn.

It’s better than Dawn. I don’t use it but the people that do have good results with Gain liquid original scent. I believe it’s SH stable because people mix it when they do laundry. If I did run out of soap, Gain would be my top choice in a pinch. Hope that helps.

Cool thanks!! I been using All laundry detergent but I plan to get eliminator or sol mo

arm and Hammer oxy clean laundry det works great!!!

We only use Apple Suds now. It’s the best I’ve used is the last 7 years.

@@ExpertPowerWash do you have link to purchase

You are doing it all wrong🙂

*Elemonator

Thank you for watching the video and sharing your story. I have been super happy with Elemonator. I downstream a lot for house washing. One once per gallon of bleach and you are good to go. Not sure I mentioned that it actually preserves your mix and stabilizes. With that said, I should be paid or get free products for promoting but I don’t. Just sharing my experience with a good soap. Hope this is helpful and the Elemonator works well for you.

How much arm and hammer do you use per gallon brother?

577 Jersey Customs Adventures 1/4 cup per 5 gallon mix

Great question. I use it in the proportioner for small houses if not downstreaming or as an added soap for my roofs. I use slo mo and Apple wash together for roofs. Works great.

But they both will get rid of the smell right?? I was just goin to use apple wash for smell and looks

If I was to buy one which one should I pick Eliminator or apple wash

JT 1200 yes

JT 1200 if I had to pick one, I’d pick elemonator. The smell is stronger than Apple washer. It rinses well. Apple wash is still a great product.

Give call on getting Dawn cheaper

Glad to help! I mix one ounce per gallon of house wash mix. This works well for me.

Expert Power Wash thank you!! I will be watching more of your videos to learn more about pressure washing.

I’ve heard good things about the Arm and Hammer. Thanks for watching and commenting.

How much oxy clean you use for a 5 gal mix?

john meza not sure perhaps the other commentators can answer that. Just try Elemonator.

@@johnmeza7116 1 capful per gallon..sounds like alot but works great..been using Fab laundry detergent also..1 buck for 50 oz.

@@ExpertPowerWash Little update..i have barely been using any surfactant at all in my house washing.Just enough to see a little suds so i know i have soap.Just a little squirt.

Thanks for watching and commenting. I’ve been wondering about Shamblin’s stuff. I’ll have to try that. Thanks for sharing.

Any surfactant will help bleach stick to a roof. I do use this stuff and it works good.

sixONEslix thank you for the kind words. You are the first to ever say I have a video similar to yours. I’ve never watched any of your videos. I will now🙂 Sounds like we are on the page page at least. I’m in Portland, OR. If you look up Expert Power Wash and call or text the number, I’d be happy to chat. Hope you are having a great season amid this corona virus.

Expert Power Wash very nice sir! Yes I have a few videos here but 99% of my stuff is across facebook groups and posts really. My biggest issue with dawn is that it breaks down petroleum and so when you spray it on vinyl, plastic, or asphalt shingles it drys stuff out, fades stuff and makes it brittle. You really notice it when you wash your vehicle with it and all the plastic goes from black to a faded gray. Stay safe and healthy out there man!

sixONEslix great points! Thank you. Stay safe also

@@softwashscience lol, ever heard of the rinse? good professional roof washers follow the American asphalt recommendation and rinse the roof and don't let the strong SH sit on it waiting for rain.

@@michelleruss1 your referencing the same article that states to use a 4% solution so thanks for reiterating what I stated previously about too strong of mix. what are you getting by rinsing. I have rinsed many times but its only situational. if covered areas will not see rain that should be rinsed. If the customer wants instant results and knows that rinsing could cause accelerated granular loss but wants it done then we rinse. If you rinse every roof and you think guys that do are some how a great steward of professionalism I will say your wrong. on a sunny day you can't tell me that your able to treat and rinse a roof without any areas drying up before you do so. Unless your prewet the entire roof and have a crew of several guys your not achieving that and if you were to infact do that you would have so much run off your property damage would be significant and you wouldn't be in business. SH when not active and dry does no damage to the roof and if your rinsing properly your only providing the same results as rain would. proper treatment of organic growth is letting it sit and dwell so it kills 100%. If you rinse correctly your roofs will only be able to turn out as good as mine as I get perfection with or without a rinse. if you are using sh to strong and rinising your product will not be as good as mine. If your going to try and troll me then pick a different comment because its impossible to win when I'm 100% correct. I hope this was informative for you and good luck.

Yes I’m in Portland.

Thanks for commenting and watching the video. You bring up some great points. I’ve used the stuff in the video and have had great results. I’m sure other soaps will work as well.

Rick Washek You are correct and if you buy Dawn by the gallon the price goes way down so not a fair comparison.

Email me expertpowerwash@gmail.com

It's in the instruction. 1oz per gallon

I may make a video about it sometime. Short answer, just add one oz per gal of SH used in the mix. I downstream straight SH. Hope that helps!

Expert Power Wash thank you sir! Keep up with the good vids man.

It is injecting soap into the pressure washer hose after the pump. You need to have soap nozzles for the pressure washer to pull. I wouldn’t put much hope into the homeowner grade injectors. You would need a 4 GPM belt drive machine minimum to make this work right.

@@ExpertPowerWash ok I’m going to educate myself on this and upgrade

We sell it. pressurewashingskids.com

I’ve heard that on gain. My only concern would be if it’s bleach stable. Gain can be mixed with SH and used obviously but I don’t think it is stable as in it will break down the SH within days. Ok to be used for a single use but not if it’s left over and used. That’s why I like Elemonator. It’s stable, preserves, and boosts your mix. Look for at least bleach stable surfactants. I appreciate the comments and sharing your experience.

@@ExpertPowerWash I'm a foam cannon and x jet oriented cleaner. I mix cleaner on site to the condition of the job. I have different levels of need at each site so it works for me to mix to spec and save on chemical use when and where appropriate.

That makes sense.

Yes. One ounce per gallon of SH

Do it.😀

Not sure. You may reach out to Pressure Tek

Thank you! The Elemonator has been the best soap I’ve used so far.

Curious how that stuff works👍🏻

@@ExpertPowerWash place in tracy ca that i order other chems from and they send a sample. Great place with great service. Trying to remember the name.

Sounds like a deal if you are looking to use Dawn.

Thanks for watching and bringing that up. Elemonator rinses better and stabilizes SH. Dawn is not recommended by the manufacturer to be used with SH. Regardless of all that, that’s a good buy on a bunch of Dawn. Stay safe out there.

Good one😂

Thanks for the tip. Something to look into.

Excellent comments! Thanks for watching and taking the time to explain the differences with Dawn.

@@ExpertPowerWash No problem. I don't know if this really matters but on the dawn bottle that can be use with bleach it also states (contains biodegradable surfactants) It would be on the bottles label Dawn ultra 50% less scrubbing 3X more grease cleaning power. Again, i hope that's clear for people who want to still use Dawn for a surfactant. Just wanted to share.

Ounce per gallon of mix. You got it.

Yes. We don’t use it anymore. We like Apple Suds. Works better.

Absolutely! Love the stuff.

@@ExpertPowerWash I've been interested in getting into the industry. As indicated above on windows, you can use to much elomonator. are there different ratios to use? Concrete, houses, windows, wood (patios/fences)?

I always use one ounce per gallon. My roof system pulls a different soap through a proportioner

Absolutely! They sell a smaller container. They also have a sample pack.

Expert Power Wash thanks for the info. I’ll ask them about it.

Thanks for watching. That’s house wash mix which would only be 5-6 oz. It’s one once per gallon.

Pressure Tek is the only one that sells it.

It’s not bleach stable. It will degrade your mix once you add it. Works fine for laundry because you don’t need to preserve the strength of your mix for cloths.

It’s decent. We use our own soap now, Apple Suds. It’s better.

@@ExpertPowerWash thanks for answering , where can I buy it & how much for a 5 gallon bucket?

I’m trying to get shipping figured out. Message me. $140 for a fiver. expertpowerwash@gmail

I’m confused🙂 This video is about what I use for houses. I appreciate you watching and commenting.

Sorry to hear that. It’s good stuff. Seems there should be something good in the UK

Pressure Tek or get soap from us if your in the Portland area.

In California new to Pressure washing community

We are using and selling Northwest Apples. Awesome stuff. Pressure Tek was not able to provide the volume of soap we needed.

@@ExpertPowerWash thank you. I appreciate it. I will look into it.

Simple Cherry is good also. Thanks for the comment.

That is a great point!

Agreed! Exactly my point. Appreciate the comments.

@@ExpertPowerWash 30 seconds after typing that comment u showed us the Back of the dawn bottle haha

I would still would not use a soap that’s not designed for professional exterior cleaning. I’ve seen too many comments from all the new guys trying to save money and make a quick buck in this industry. If one is going to position their company as a top quality premium service provider, they should use products that are less likely to cause issues on customers property. Of course this is just my humble opinion and everyone is entitled to run their business how they see fit.

@@ExpertPowerWash I agree, but if someone is starting out, it's fine to run tests with the safe dawn then upgrade when they're ready to do it right for actual jobs. The right stuff is always better in the end.

Start out with the right stuff and experiment with that. Pressure Tek sells a sample pack.

@@ExpertPowerWash good to know, I had no idea they had a sample pack!

Not as long as you. Appreciate your channel and what you bring to the Wash community. Really appreciate your authenticity.

Don’t do that. We developed our own soap. It’s great. Here’s a link to the soap we developed and use daily. We quit using Elemonator due to not being able to purchase in the quantities that we needed. pressurewashingskids.com/products/apple-suds-roof-and-house-washing-soap?_pos=1&_psq=apple&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Thanks for watching and commenting. That’s too bad you can’t use it.

@@ExpertPowerWash just got some shamblins sent to test. Used elemonator along time ago liked the smell but coworkers always said thats weird. Ordering an xjet today would you do m5? Thx again Working like 20 minutes from oregon today in crescent c

Yes I like the M5

@@ExpertPowerWash do you use it stock or modify

Do the math and let me know. Do a re make of my video with the corrected info. I’d be happy to watch it and comment on it.

Thanks for watching and commenting. I never tried it. Doesn’t seem very cost effective for the amount you would need to wash an entire house.

Look at the description.