Two sides to every story. That's so cool she wrote you back!

Mildred Pierce is a great movie. Love it!

She quietly helped many charities, including a hospital room she kept for years for people that couldn't afford one. Class act.

​@@stevers62Many abusers and predators, including famous ones, donate to charities and raise money for charity. They do it to enhance their image.

​@Muirmaiden My Mother is exactly 💯 like that.

I feel like people sometimes want to believe the worst when people die because it creates a mystique, but I dont buy into those kind of things when I'm trying to remember someone's contributions to the world.. people have told me that Kirk Douglas and Hugh Hefner were horrible people, but when I met noel blanc I thought he was one of the nicest, most genuine people I've ever met, and he told me Kirk and Hugh were two of his lifelong closest friends...

Abusing children is not a "weakness", it's a crime. I don't understand why when it comes to famous people, there are those who are like, "It should have remained a private matter. His/her children should have tried to understand them and be grateful". No one is stopping you from enjoying Joan Crawford's work, but acting as if her abusive behavior is just some minor flaw instead of seeing it for what it is baffles me.

@@Muirmaiden You're right. We have a two-tiered system in this country, we give the wealthy and well-known a pass on bad behavior.

You left out Kirk Douglas, Sherman said she was too strict with her kids and they would grow up to hate her. He was right.

Why should she rest in peace, she caused a lot of pain to her children and others on this Earth.

yes! I don't think one negates the other but should be looked at in totality. All of us in life have many different sides which makes us who we are. Without her childhood or without things that happened to her would she have been so great an actress? If she wasn't the greatest to the older kids doesn't make her being better to the twins a lie. We change as we grow.

Ah yes a liable excuse for abusing her kids!

@@ridingtheroad185‘wasn’t the greatest’ -aka physically and emotionally abusive? I really tire of people who make excuses for narcissism. Whilst I’m sure her childhood was traumatic, it is not an excuse.

@@SWCSlotsSWCSLOTS A lot of people have come forward saying Christina was a sociopathic liar. Even people who worked with Christina on movie sets said she was a nasty, awful creature. She even caused Elvis to lose his temper with her antics... People basically didn't want to be around nor work with her. Pants on fire...

She DID NOT abuse her children. ​@@SWCSlotsSWCSLOTS

Wow almost like she was a regular person lol with ups n downs.

Adored JC!

@@teenaapperson5880 She did drink a lot. Maybe drugs too like many in Hollywood at the time.

And I guess you never had a bad moment or bad day in your life where you did the same thing? Joan Crawford was one of the most beloved stars in Hollywood. I am in my 70s and was from the Hollywood area born and raised for 40 years worked in the industry and I have my own friends and family and people that knew her and loved her, personally and professionally! She lived an extremely disciplined life and wanted her children to grow up with backbone and appreciation for what they had. Cynthia and Cathy were tremendously, respectful and loving to their mother, realizing who she really was, and enjoyed knitting and crocheting, working hard alongside their mother in the home, and we’re joyous companions to Joan when she traveled, giving her love and happiness & truly cared about Joan, not bringing their mother grief and nightmares. Joan, herself physically worked so hard. Scrubbed her own floors on her own hands and knees in her home and brought a similar discipline with her when she was on set! Joan could’ve never achieved the stardom the love and respect she earned in that she always had if she’d been 1/10th the maniac MD depicts! She only had one lady, her loyal housekeeper, Mamacita for many, many years. Between the two of them, they did all the work!! I love & respect Joan probably more than I do any of the other well know celebrities for who she truly was, for all she did, and all she gave and for all the tremendous heart and brilliance she painstakingly brought to her dozens of memorable film performances, many we still treasure to this day, and I really appreciate Jordan doing such a respectful, lovely job sharing the highlights of Joan’s life & career within his post here today. Very nicely done, Jordon!! ❤️🤗

@@spokanetomcat1 Her secretaries have stated & it is documented she did not start drinking until sometime in the 1950’s. To my knowledge, she never was a drug taker, but a very disciplined person she could not have accomplished all that she did had she been a drunken lush!!! She traveled hundreds of thousands of miles for many, many years until near her death, representing Pepsi-Cola, and had boundless energy and discipline throughout. Why run her down? Why does that make you feel better? She was a tremendously good person and you should try to focus on truths. You can see and learn many beautiful things about Joan Crawford along with bonafide documentation’s that debunk all the ugliness people associate with Miss Crawford on-line at The Concluding Chapter of Crawford, which is a gigantic website painstakingly created containing documents regarding who this lady really was! If you give it a chance, you’ll find someone there to respect instead of diss.

I know the truth about Mommie Dearest, it was like she wrote my childhood story.

@@bradfordhamilton3021 sorry about that, i fortunately had fantastic parents who loved and wanted us to

Joan Crawford adored her fans.

@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc She did? Or was she addicted to their adulation?

@@bradfordhamilton3021 Joan Crawford appreciated her fans. That is as good because some celebrities don't want to be bothered by their fans.

Mildred pierce is a really interesting movie!

I love Mildred Pierce, but frankly, I didn't know who Joan Crawford was until I read Mommie Dearest.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Right?

You do t know what happened so its not up to you to make judgements. I've done the same do what do you think of me ?????

@@JK-vu6hl it’s more what you think of yourself. We don’t have to live with you. But, your tone in this comment does make me wonder.

@@Purplenpinkk judgemental much

@@JK-vu6hl yup, I judge as does everyone, it’s called being human.

Exactly what I think.

Some parents will target some of their children for abuse and not others.

Amen to that one! I did an intervention ( one of the hardest things I ever did)

Exactly

I love Grand Hotel also! Amazing cast!

I believe Christina to be a sociopath. So many people who knew her have come forward saying what she really is...

It's not sad, it's truth. Truth sets us free.

@@jenniferlloyd9574 No one has come forward to say such an outlandish thing.

Blah, blah, blah.... You just can't give it a rest, can you?

@@lydiavisitor1712 I don't like abusers. If you find that offensive, you are the problem.

Wow, thank you!

@@DazewithJordantheLion if I said anything wrong I apologize, I just wanted you to know how respected you are among your community. Stay safe 🥰

I just saw this. Never had heard of it before

I don't. I think Christina was messed up due to Joan's abuse and neglect. No one writes a book that MILLIONS of people who were abused as children related 100% to Christina's story.

Give me some names.. never once heard that anywhere.. can you give me the name of the book you read that in?

I read somewhere that Agnes Moorehead disowned her adopted son.

They did, but Stanwyck was all career too and didn't know how to parent. She never said anything bad about the boy, just that there was bad blood between them.

Her birth year was altered. Like many female stars, she made herself younger. I believe her real age was early 70s.

Smoking, drinking all day and obsessive sun bathing. I am 46, retired US Paratrooper and look 15 years younger than my dad when he was my age. No smoking, no drinking and sun screen go quite a long way.

Christopher died from cancer at the age 63

​@@DazewithJordantheLionpeople who suffer trauma are more likely to suffer health issues.

"Living with a dominating woman like Joan couldn’t have been easy. She wanted children but couldn’t have any, so she adopted several. Joan was not quite rational in her raising of children. You might say she was strict or stern. But cruel is probably the right word." -- Helen Hayes

@@bscottb8 great quote from someone that was actually there. it bothered me how dismissal Jordan was of Christina a child that lived in Joan’s home. You don’t have to dig very deep to see there were problems with Joan. I think the twins and one of the Christopher’s there were two came from Georgia Tann

@@shellyott5898 You just have to look up Crawford's numerous police calls to her house.

Me too.

Sounds like some solace was found in the $$ from the book and movie that everyone disputed..

@@DazewithJordantheLion Christopher gave an interview that is online that backs up Christina's story and his. Christina didn't write the book to make money, she reached a point in her life that she needed to exam her past. She had no idea the book would sell. After all, Mommie Dearest was the first tell all book.

Mildred Pierce was Joan Crawford's best film.

I totally agree..

You mean the children that she obtained illegally from black-market baby rings and the children she later used for publicity purposes to enhance her image? By the way, her adopted son confirmed that she was abusive to him as well.

They were publicity shots done by the studio, so of course everyone is smiling. Christina said that once the lights went out, everything went back to normal. Many abused children look happy in photos, so what?

BD Hyman wrote that nasty book about her mother, Bette Davis, because she was desperate for money.

@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc She's now telling people that Bette was a witch.