Hahahahaha that whole pricing section! Lord - mic drop. Well done. So funny about not killing the beautiful strap. Great review

The heart rate correction features is WILD! Fair play Polar, fair play. What’s even WILDER though is the Price!? Pretty crazy considering the price you can get a Garmin Epix and Suunto Race 🙈 Nice video Ray! 🔥

As a trail and ultra runner who used to wear Grit X Pro under heavy load for almost 2 years, this is a confirmation that I made the right choice moving away from Polar before waiting for the Grit X2 Pro to come out. I can be at peace with a smile on my face. Firstly, it looks like a Garmin flagship watches, and IMO, the Grit X Pro, especially the Titanium version looked better. At least it was different. The Silicon strap looks the same as it was for the Grit X Pro and it was heavy and felt behind the competitor's straps. If it's the same then- meh. And the back of the watch is still made out of plastic? Suunto Vertical has a steel or titanium back with an HR sensor built in it and there's so little plastic in the watch which for me, makes it feel like a premium product and you see and feel what you paid for. I'm saying that because of the price which is, yea.. No need to even go there. I moved back to Suunto, mainly because of the simplicity, design, premium looks, and durability even if Garmin is probably the best brand out there with many models to choose from. I was a Suunto user for 7 years, then got tired of the brand fell behind the competition, and moved to Polar which was a disappointing experience, including the customer support. Tried Garmin for 1 month, including a 100mi race and experience, performance was amazing but I just didn't like the complexity of their ecosystem and I'm simply not a fan of the design as I have to wear the watch every day. Thankfully, Suunto had stepped up with their watches and I moved back and bought the Suunto Vertical Titanium over Race model because of the exceptional battery life that AMOLED displays can't provide and the design that felt more outdoorsy and more rugged yet very simple and sleek. I'm super happy with my decision and I feel like I could live with Suunto Vertical for years. It ticks every box for an ultra runner that goes out for long and adventurous days. And there are so many beautiful, light, and breathable straps to choose from. Went too deep into my comment but maybe it will help someone to choose their next watch better as they are not a cheap peace of equipment to buy. :)

Since some years ago… Polar’s CEO have been the best Garmin’s CEO ever.

That Madeira trip looks promising!

Love my Grit X Pro Titan- the old design is much more cooler from the design, except maybe the new wristband which is quite nice but not my color. How you want explain to an old costumer to go for the new Grit X2 Titan for crazy 869,90? The new Display? Some new sweet features? The old display is great and I have no problems in daylight, where I normally train. I use my mobile phone to navigate if I really need navigation and the old model also tracks the way and data very well. So where is extra value I get when I buy the new model? A lot of Polar lovers will stay with the older models and some other people will buy the older model "in sale" like the Polar Grit X Pro Titan for 390.- Euro- a beauty! Greets to the CEO of Polar. ;)

Let's put it this way. There is no immediate risk of me considering going from Garmin to Polar any day soon.

Thinking either this or the epix 2 pro, i do use tbd H10 strap. Atm i use an AW ultra but thinking i want something more fitness orientated.

I have never been so entertained by Ray as when he was speechless about the price 🤣

I bought a new Polar Grit X Pro Titanium for my birthday that was on 17th march and i made the best movement! Has the best size, design,ergonomy, best sensor because is a Precission Prime(not the new sensor) and the phone creates everything in it perfectly.....The new watch is a panel on the hand and who wants an amoled on such a small device? I wear it in hardest gym conditions with tpe protection and wristband over and is from far the best partner....And outside i walked in rain and snow and is from far the best smartwatch for hard working guys for wellness and sports.......Is far from being outdated Polar Grit X Pro, exactly how a Polar expert wrote me on my facebook messenger when i asked this....I love this amazing watch from all the points of view from far❤

Agree with you on the price. That's Crazy! Not my price tag as much as i love it i guess my Grit X Pro Titan has to hold a little bit longer.

Although I was waiting for the new version of Grit X, I couldn't resist and bought the Apple Watch Ultra 2 recently. After this announcement, I am considering returning to Polar with the new Grit X2. As a long-time Polar user (RS800CX, V800, Grit X), I am accustomed to the simplicity of the Polar interface. Regarding the price vs. features, the fewer yet more focused features make the user happier. Personal taste and preference play a role when making a choice. Yes, I am biased toward Polar. Regarding the weight, as mentioned in some other comments, there is a Vantage V3 for those looking for a lightweight version. This is an adventure watch. It is supposed to be used abusively. It is supposed to give a rugged feeling. Maybe that's why the base version uses the steel case, not the aluminum one. Regarding the steep price of the Titan version, it looks more like a way for the owner to express the status than to buy the count of features. Something similar is observable with other watches, like the classical ones, which have just a few features like the time of day and date (which has to be adjusted once a month), yet are still quite expensive. I agree with Polar's bet that the price/feature ratio might not be the most important one for some buyers, as that is not a rational decision anyway, whether it is this or another brand like with the AWU2. Aside from that, when wearing the Grit X, it was not rare that I was asked about the model of the watch, which clearly looked distinctive compared to the masses by its look, not features. Nobody is asking such questions now when I have AWU. I guess no Garmin user gets asked, either. If given a chance, I would swap my fresh AWU2 for the Titan. Still have to agree that need to wait for that firmware update first. :)

I worked in sales and while there are always customers who will buy products no matter the price, the majority will just not pay it, considering there is a very similar featured Suunto Race for 449.- or the Forerunner 955.

That whole retroactive application of HR data just makes me think, wear a chest strap lol.

Also - it looks so much like the Amazfit T-Rex Ultra and now I can't unsee it

@dcrainmaker are you coming to Madeira island for MIUT? If you need anything while here at the island feel free to ask! Thanks for your reviews!

Are you going to Madeira to test it? MIUT? Nice place to do it!!!

£649 which isn't _as_ bad. But wow. Out of curiosity... does the "making up the HR values" feature only work with the optical sensor, or with a HR strap as well?

Priceless 😂

Still no Training Peaks structured workouts?

Hi, did Polar said something about the HR monitor working with tattoos on the wrist!? Thank you!!!

Don't forget, it is indeed possible to go outdoors and do sports without any electronics.

I think this might be a clever move. The intention is not to sell this watch but to generate intrest in the v3. At the same time people will be watching this video and asking why the price? Polar lost me a long time ago and it is not even close vs Garmin and the rest of the competition.

Imagine this watch, but without the AMOLED, but added an updated MIP-screen on this watch. It would have taken the battery beyond or similar to Suuntos Vertical. They could have lowered the price and make a marketing banger. Or at least something that will make people interested of moving over to Polar. And, we have to talk more about the prices - what ever brand it is. Garmin Fenix/Enduro etc are also extremely overpriced. It's getting out of hand. Thanks Ray.

Real life comparisons between this, Garmin Epix and Apple Watch Ultra, please!

Does the maps use any standard format, so we can load our own maps?

The Titan...Man a Beautiful watch, finally something that looks a bit more professional that you can workout in and wear on your wrist in professional settings and I love Polar but Dude...The Price. Ah inflation!!!! WT HECK

So, it costs more than Apple Watch Ultra?! Or Garmin Fenix 7? Why would you buy that?

Hoppla. Polar venturing in Garmin Fenix crazy price territory. 😮

Hope they bring save locations to there watches! POI

The heart rate sensor on Vantage V3 sucks and Polar still won't release new firmware to fix the heart rate issue.🙄Then I realised that Grit X2 Pro uses the same sensor, if you know what I mean. One more look at the price of Grit X2 Pro and I laughed out loud.🤣🤣🤣

Hey have you thought of making video comparing the brands as whole instead of single products? I would be very interested what you think about the ecosystems and brands as whole. Polar, Garmin, Suunto mainly.. :P

Ray, the price point for this watch will have consumers thinking whether to get the suunto race, or the original epix gen 2 which garmin nearly slash it by half

Might be a good watch, especially for those, who are already in the Polar ecosystem. But no reason at all to switch from another brand. And the price tag ist just crazy. 😳

When do you come out with the in depth review on the GXP2?

Polar is just helping Suunto to sell more Race watches:) . isn't that lovely?

Can it do notifications like text messages?

Yeah, but how does it compare to the Fenix 8? 😉

Haha!! As a long time Polar wearer, I’ll NEVER buy this watch at that price point. The VV3 for $600USD was laughable but this is just sad.

Really no compelling reasons here to give Polar a try

Thanks Ray, I'll get a fénix

Any sign of the final review DC ?

No Altitude acclimation, no Barometer/Storm alarm? Lacking features

Features don't matter. It's about brand and quality. This watch is more expensive than the Vantage v3 because it makes the latter feel like a bargain. It's also cheaper than Garmin flagship models, not to mention watched like Breitling that have zero features. So in my opinion one should blame the salesmen if they couldn't get people to buy these watches.

I returned my Vantage 3 because of awful HR reading and unreliable offline maps. Basically the only 2 features I care about in sport watches. This one has the same sensor! And I do not believe to fairytales about next firmware that fixes everything. Releasing such an expensive device and fix problems later is unacceptable. And Good Lord - PRICE, do they look at their competitors even occasionally? I was thinking that AWU was overpriced, but Polar overshot even greedy Apple.

V epix 2 pro?

I have been in the Polar ecosystem forever and have used the first gen Grit X since 2020. I was excited to see this release, but the price is exactly the same as an Apple Watch Ultra 2 in Canada, a watch that does a lot more. Now I will wait to see what the Series 10 looks like in the Fall.

Why Polar? How will you convince anyone to leave Garmin?

Can this watch be used for playing tennis or padel indoor ?

Shouldn't the review be online now? And the update for the Vantage V3 too?

$750?? I will be keeping my Forerunner 955 Thanks.

AMOLED display is super nice. Too bad it's too much like wearing a phone on your wrist. Hope they keep making MIP display watches. If not, at least ill save some good cash by not chasing the latest watch. 😀👍my 955 solar should last for another 10 years 🤞

I know nobody cares about ant+ but i still need ant+ along with blte on my watches

£649 which is £50 more than the Garmin FR965. My 965 has fantastic battery life but is otherwise a failure. I bought the Garmin hype. Anyone in the UK want to buy my 965 ? Any reasonable offers accepted so I can afford to switch back to Polar

lines of code is not a metric you should be using to judge the performance.

I have both the old Polar Grit X and Garmin fenix 7. IMO Polar has much better sleep tracking, nicer/simpler UI and reports and the basics work well. Polar can track different swim styles which the fenix can't do, at least out of the box. Garmin has in general waay better features and a lots more stuff, better gps accuracy and, for me, about the same hr accuracy. Garmin has IMO better recovery tools. However, they are based on inaccurate (overly positive) sleep data so I don't know if I can rely on them I have to say I'm impressed with Polar, but too expensive for me

OMG

At a glance I thought I was seeing a Garmin Fenix

For all of you comparing the Polar Grit X2 Pro Titan with Garmin watches, please compare it to the MARQ® Adventurer (Gen 2). No other Garmin watch (except the MARQ collection) has a full titanium case. The Fenix, Epix, Forerunner 965 have a polymer case. The MARQ watches are overpriced (starting at 2100$). So the Polar Grit X2 Pro is a much cheaper alternative.

you had a pvc in your ecg

The auto-correction of HR is fire... Wish Garmin would implement such thing-

Suunto vertical

Uhm, they wanted to wanted to issue a challenge?

My garmin enduro 2 is still going strong 💅

Looks nicer than a garmin but the no music option will make me never buy a polar

Stopped watching at 21 hours battery life on full GPS mode ... lol, i guess Polar still needs a lot of catchin up to do, sadly. Otherwise the watch looks cool.

I own a polar grit x pro and it's disappointing to know that these software/firmware upgrades are not coming to older generation of watches. companies like polar ditching their products just couple of years after they are released is super annoying. Garmin is way better in this regard

I buy a garmin

This may just be the most badass price we’ve ever made...

Strava thing shouldnt even be mentioned if its locked behind a paywall. I bought a watch, and now i want to use a feature of the watch but now i have to pay montly fee to use it.. aint gonna happen. With that price they should give a two year strava subscription also.

The price...RIP

No thanks, I’ll stick with Garmin and wait for the Fenix 8.

For the price and the features no thank you Polar🤣

The price is the joke, maybe they made mistake?

Pantalla 1,39 pulgadas pffff 🤦🏻‍♂️

I love Polar but they are both falling behind the times and their sales guy needs to be fired. Moved to the Forerunner 965 until they get it together again

AMOLED is a waste of everyone's time and battery

No sane person would pay that amount of money for this device. I would think twice to buy a Polar watch over a Garmin even at Us.400 price point

Nope!!! Way too much money.

Omg.. good stuff, but speak less please