so true

Choppers feel great in XP11, not unlike DCS. No idea about P3D

@@Morrov I'm pretty sure he was talking about freeware XP11 default aircraft.

@@Ryan-ed1lq the default helo in XP has a decent flight model. Systems are almost nonexistant, but it flies well. Same for plenty of freeware helos you can get. I learnt how to fly sim helos in XP, required no further practice when I jumped into DCS.

@@Morrov I respectfully disagree as a person who's flown both.

I only have the Ka-50, UH-1, and Mi-8. With the autopilot assistance, I think the Ka-50 is by far the easiest to fly - even kind of sterile in comparison. But I do agree that the Mi-8 is easier to fly than the UH-1, which feels lighter and less stable. Also, the UH-1 is vulnerable to mast bumping, and the Mi-8 is not, due to mechanical differences in how the rotors are attached. All that being said, the flight model of the Mi-8 makes it feel fantastic to fly in DCS. Possibly the best flight model I have experienced in a sim.

The Hip and the Harrier are still the two best modules in the whole game, that's for sure.

When I VRS in the hey the recovery was easy even when I was like 30 ft off the ground, in this thing, you are likely even if you get down get in to the Shakira state and she wont stop! xD and you shake to bits xD

@@murdoch9106 'shakira state'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Hip don't lie! lol

*DCS Mi24 - "Hold my beer."

lol

You are a brave man. It's a God dam widow maker! x

@@grimreapers it's not that bad to fly. She's just a little old and needs some care.

needs an update. it's like flying in a sauce-pan over an open fire

I would divvy up the DCS aircraft between rotary and fixed-wing aircraft. They are very different experiences. If you want the DCS helo that is the most fun to fly (Disclaimer: I haven't flown the Gazelle), I would recommend the Mi-8 (it's also 20% faster than the UH-1). Cruising at low level, hugging the terrain, is a lot of fun. Don't get me wrong, the UH-1 is also fun to fly, but a bit more twitchy and temperamental. If you want the helo which is best at killing stuff, go with the Ka-50. But it does feel easy and a bit sterile after the UH-1/Mi-8, which makes sense due to the autopilot assistance it has and the coaxial counter-rotating rotors. Regardless, I would highly recommend at least getting one helo in DCS if you are at all interested. It might not be your thing, or you might love it. And they are the most realistic helos I have flown in any sim (and I do have a tiny amount of experience flying a helo IRL).

Thx CB!

Nope it's not the fastest but the second fastest after Ka-50. However it is undoubtedly the most powerful.

yup

Me neither. Especially because it has multicrew, and it will be available on the cold war era servers too!

Mousie will you be my parter when it comes out? Am Ultra 01

@@fatwizard1234 Send me your discord!

I'm gonna preorder as soon as it's available. Can't wait. I know it's not a D variant but I don't care. The Liquid Snake videos shall be made anyway.

I've been collecting many happy hours in the Huey in VR, recently I've been very tempted to pick up the Mi-8. Would you reccomend it or would (in your opinion) it be worth picking up or is saving up for the Mi-24 the better move?

@@genericfakename8197 I think it's super fun to fly. You wouldn't expect it really. I thought it would be a heavy, stupid brother of the hind-24p but it's actually very fun to fly for it's weight, you don't actually feel that heavy and you could actually do some pretty quick staffing maneuvers! Old comment so you maybe allready bought it :)

@@deetwodcs4683 I've had the Mi-8 for about a year so I probably went and bought it minutes after making this comment lmao. I've had many joy filled hours with the Mi-8, still haven't gotten around to the Mi-24 though, been having more fun moving cargo and doing "air ambulance" landing challenges in the old bus.

The clicking can also mean that your rear doors are open. Not sure of the official name but when you hear that something is not set for safe flight.

What about the mi-24, you tried that one too?

@@krystian0128 Nope. In hindsight I should have waited for the AH-64 instead of getting the Hind but I'm a big helicopter fan.

@@artyboy1377 Haha hindsight.

That's why it's called Hip

yea, it's bad

I had no idea, thx!

I best get it an review it

@@grimreapers Well depends which one you buy. There's one for the Mi8, one for the L39 (I think it was?) which actually show up in the cockpit and then one you can use as an overlay for all the others. All separate modules to buy.

@@Stahlwollvieh @UCZuXjkFY00p1ga3UyCBbR2w store.steampowered.com/app/933980/DCS_NS_430_Navigation_System/ Just one version. In the Mi8 and and in the L39 you can have it modeld in the cockpit. The rest are overlay that can be turned on and off. I know it because i bought it.

@@grimreapers Ok, with DCS standalone version it is indeed three packages didn't know that.

lol at Roentgens

LAlt + ' for me with my American keyboard if not, then just find it in the Adjust Controls screen.

"Really a Major missed oppurtunity with no multi-crew." Multi-crew was about 2.5 years away when the Mi-8 was released in 2013. The L-39 was the first module with multi-crew in 2016. "This is supposed to be a simulator after all." It is a simulator. Simulators do not simulate absolutely everything, btw. They are approximations. Even simulators running on the most powerful computers in the world don't simulate anything perfectly. The only simulator released which even approximates fluid dynamics for air is a 1995(!!!) simulator called Flight Unlimited (just the original 1995 version - the sequels ended up being completely re-written).

@@burnttoast111 but multi-crew is not only realistic, its also very fun. So i think it should have been a priority in 2013. Oh well.

@@antongrahn1499 The multi-crew code is something that needed to be written by Eagle Dynamics, as part of the DCS engine. Which is why the first multi-crewed module was the L-39, developed by Eagle Dynamics itself. The Mi-8 was developed by Belsimtek, a partner of Eagle Dynamics. Belsimtek still lists multi-crew as something that they plan on introducing 'at a later date' for both the UH-1 and Mi-8. Sure, it has been over 3 years since the L-39 was released, that doesn't mean it won't happen, either.

lol

Nah it flies like a dream. Landings are similar to the huey, just a bit trickier.

The handbook flight parameters are pretty clear: "POWER-ON VERTICAL DESCENT A power-on vertical descent from an altitude of 10 m down to the ground is permissible in all conditions. From an altitude of 110 m down to 10 m, a vertical descent is only permissible when a glideslope approach cannot be performed due to obstacles or out of tactical considerations. Descent from the helicopter’s service ceiling down to 110 m must be performed on a glideslope and within airspeed limitations. In a vertical descent from an altitude of 110 m down to 10 m, the descent rate may not exceed 3 m/sec. If the descent rate increases beyond 3 m/sec, smoothly increase collective to arrest the descent rate. If engine power is insufficient to arrest the descent and maintain main rotor RPM within limits, transi-tion out of the vertical descent to a glideslope descend or forward flight to gain airspeed. From an altitude of 10 m down to the ground, continually reduce the rate of descent so it does not exceed 0.2 m/sec at touchdown."

@@davefloyd9443 well done you nailed it

soz

ED does regular sales, regular enough that tbh, I wouldn't buy any module at full price. Next one will probably be November/December

The price should be based on the Steam Summer Sale price. The higher price is the impatience tax

Only this single module gave me more hours of fun than any recent AAA games for the same or higher price, so i consider this to be a better buy. But if you mind the price, wait for the next sale, it will be about 50% off!

yea, it's not good. But I won't give up on them updating it some day. But I'm not sure there is monetary value in them doing it since Helo's are not popular unless you're talking about a Huey.

lols

Bit late for the series but will bear in mind.