De Sloop Sint Josephkerk juni 2009

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6 жыл бұрын

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@robert3302
@robert3302 5 жыл бұрын
The church was closed in 2003 due to declining attendance. It was in the town of Dongen in North Brabant province near the city of Tilburg. There is a Wikipedia article on it: nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sint-Josephkerk_(Dongen)
@lazic51642
@lazic51642 6 жыл бұрын
i am not church going person but its a shame that such an old church had to be destroyed
@devinhaisma
@devinhaisma 6 жыл бұрын
darryll lazic it wasn't really that old
@vahakna
@vahakna 5 жыл бұрын
Older church should preserve.
@AlfAllton
@AlfAllton 5 жыл бұрын
darryll lazic All churches and cathedrals should go the same way. Religion is outdated and has no place in the modern world.
@Mossyz.
@Mossyz. 5 жыл бұрын
This is a Dutch church .. And our god is English .
@mountainfreedom9000
@mountainfreedom9000 5 жыл бұрын
Start with all the mosques and synagouges first.
@GameWekelijks
@GameWekelijks 5 жыл бұрын
cultuurbarbaren prachtig gebouw, en dan komt er zeker een uberlelijk blok beton bestempeld als "modern gebouw" voor terug. Gatver
@Mrdutchpyro
@Mrdutchpyro 4 жыл бұрын
Ja helemaal mee eens vroeger wisten ze tenminste van kunst af
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
Het is zeker jammer maar de kerk werd al jaren niet gebruikt maar we hebben nog wel 2 andere kerken in het dorp hoor dus ja misschien hadden ze er een cultureel centrum van kunnen maken maar die staat er al 1 nog geen 500 meter verderop
@LordLuc94
@LordLuc94 Жыл бұрын
@@larsdekoninck1888 Dat is ruim 1 km hoor, naar de Sint.-Laurentiuskerk..
@arjanwilbie2511
@arjanwilbie2511 5 жыл бұрын
2009, in dat jaar deden we de laatste fase van de kanjer restauratie van de St. Vitus in Hilversum. Ook een kerk die door leegloop op de nominatie stond voor sloop. Na het samen voegen van gemeenschappen is besloten in 2003 de kerk te restaureren, erg mooi werk... erg trots werk.
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 3 жыл бұрын
Ander bisdom met veel minder kerken.
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 жыл бұрын
That IS a heartwarming story. More should be done to at LEAST Be environmentally useful with older churches. Instead of demolition, make them community centers, offices, stores or very interesting creative habitations.
@smoothfags20
@smoothfags20 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Engineer9736
@Engineer9736 6 жыл бұрын
Hoe indrukwekkend deze sloop ook is, het is eeuwig zonde van het gebouw. Had liever de bijlmer neergehaald en daar zo’n sierlijk gebouw neergezet. Thumbs down wil ik niet doen om de uploader geen negativiteit aan te doen, maar thumbs up kan ik er ook niet van maken 🙂
@geraldbaan1315
@geraldbaan1315 5 жыл бұрын
Man man man wat super zonde dit, dit gaat onze lieve Heer nooit goed vinden!!
@MrSvenovitch
@MrSvenovitch 4 жыл бұрын
Had ie t maar moeten beschermen tegen veroudering. Maar uiteindelijk bestaat ie niet he ;-)
@mo_sighaoui
@mo_sighaoui 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
Ze hebben de toren die ze in het begin eraf gehaald hebben nog laten staan als monument voor de lieve heer
@koonings1
@koonings1 4 жыл бұрын
Het doet gewoon zeer!!!! Weer een stukje geschiedenis vernietigd!
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
Ze hebben de toren laten staan als monument en aandenken
@25vrd48
@25vrd48 4 ай бұрын
Union job , operator can't work too fast , that's why he's so slow . Such a Beautiful building having to be torn down . So much good reuseable wood and brick .
@stevenclark6209
@stevenclark6209 5 жыл бұрын
Money everywhere.
@markpike8551
@markpike8551 4 ай бұрын
Always sad to see a church demolished. 😢
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 5 жыл бұрын
De aanloop naar de sloop van deze kerk heeft de gemoederen aardig beziggehouden, ook de sloop zelf.
@hesawarmspirit
@hesawarmspirit 3 жыл бұрын
all things come to an end, even churches
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
Good!
@rockerjohnson107
@rockerjohnson107 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and its nice to see them demolished
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockerjohnson107 yes, it is extremely pleasant to witness their demise.......so hoping for more and more of this... I love it when these useless places are destroyed! 🖤
@rockerjohnson107
@rockerjohnson107 3 жыл бұрын
@@kellymeadows353 wonderful reply haha
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockerjohnson107 🤘
@frankclaus3775
@frankclaus3775 4 жыл бұрын
Die kerk had ook een nieuwe bestemming kunnen krijgen. Eeuwig zonde deze kapitaalvernietiging.
@gerdmaintz6542
@gerdmaintz6542 6 жыл бұрын
Eine Schande für die schöne Kirche....
@arjanwilbie2511
@arjanwilbie2511 5 жыл бұрын
All of value is defenceless.... it could have become a community centre, houses or even a homeless shelter.
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
The place that they opened up is now filled with houses
@k.c.beagle7102
@k.c.beagle7102 4 жыл бұрын
contest for slowest demo ever, give this guy a trophy
@peon9282
@peon9282 4 жыл бұрын
K. C. Beagle Just compare a Demolition in western Europe with one in the US. We don‘t just knock buildings down here. It‘s called selective demolition.
@dimievers5573
@dimievers5573 2 жыл бұрын
unlike what demo crews do in america , the dutch recycle , for that reason their demo is very systematic and calculated , not like americans whom seem to be in a race to tear it down asap and put everything onto the same heap without sorting materials .
@deanedeane4318
@deanedeane4318 Жыл бұрын
I was saddened to see how much of the beautiful thing wasn't salvaged ..... maybe there was more we didn't get to see ..... the blokes were pretty quick to get the copper flashing 😇
@nijhuisrb
@nijhuisrb 3 жыл бұрын
Het is zonde om te zien maar wie zou dit gebouw willen onderhouden zonder functie meer als er een handje vol mensen komt? Het is al een tijdje weg nu.
@thio59
@thio59 4 ай бұрын
kraan van het merk "liebherr". toepasselijk
@bobbybrooks2078
@bobbybrooks2078 2 жыл бұрын
Greatvedio
@Kaczorek2366
@Kaczorek2366 4 жыл бұрын
Sanierung nicht bezahlt und Abriss?
@joserebollal1935
@joserebollal1935 5 жыл бұрын
CUANDO SE PIENSA CON EL BOLSILLO SE DESTRUYEN EDIFICIOS HERMOSOS COMO ESE
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 5 жыл бұрын
Omdat bijna niemand meer naar de rooms katholieke kerk gaat in Nederland, Vaticanum II heeft verwoestend huisgehouden.
@yutufyourselable
@yutufyourselable 3 жыл бұрын
This should be paid for complete work, because if it's payed per hour...... The operator knows how to operate the crane, but must to receive a little notion of how the structure works. With this, the roof should be done in less than the half time it lasted.
@williamradford8817
@williamradford8817 4 жыл бұрын
Demolition of un wanted church. Roof section comes crashing down in an almighty cloud of dust
@Janneman968
@Janneman968 3 жыл бұрын
what is a un wanted church?
@skriesten
@skriesten 4 жыл бұрын
Rev. 18:2, 3
@jocelyngoulet383
@jocelyngoulet383 4 жыл бұрын
Ses bien
@smoothfags20
@smoothfags20 6 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for a good Video. Pity though, there isn`t a thumbs down for over editing. Some what would have been interesting watching, taken out.
@dickvanderstelt5782
@dickvanderstelt5782 6 жыл бұрын
Andy 2
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
The video was filmed over the course of a couple days and the people were very slow at some points.
@admarinisse3169
@admarinisse3169 6 жыл бұрын
Wat was de reden tot sloop van zo een pracht gebouw, was er niet de mogelijk heid om de buitenzijde te laten staan en aan de binnenzijde appartementen er in te maken?
@FJJonker
@FJJonker 6 жыл бұрын
ja dat was veel beter zon kerk hoort in het dorp ja je kan er appartementen in maken
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 5 жыл бұрын
Sloop levert vaak meer op, dan kan men de grond doorverkopen aan een project ontwikkelaar.
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 5 жыл бұрын
Er is overwogen om er een multifunctioneel centrum van te maken. Technisch was dat mogelijk, maar de staat van de voormalige kerk en het jaarlijks onderhoud ná verbouwing maakte het simpelweg te duur. Op de plaats van deze kerk ligt nu een deel van de centrumring. De pastorie staat er nog wél, en de spits is gespaard gebleven, die staat nu op een kleine sokkel schuin tegenover waar de kerk stond.
@peterbruinenberg5739
@peterbruinenberg5739 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndreasAntoniusMaria Sloop de moskeeën ook dan.
@peterbruinenberg5739
@peterbruinenberg5739 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcvanderwee Terwijl er aan de andere kant van de stad toen een moskee gebouwd kon worden. Wat duurder was dan de verbouwing van de kerk.
@suzannelucassen7118
@suzannelucassen7118 5 жыл бұрын
Echt zonde en herbouw het nu
@barthoekstra6760
@barthoekstra6760 4 жыл бұрын
Nee beter een ziekenhuis ofzo!
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
Nee dongen is een klein dorpje en we hebben in Oosterhout al een zieken huis, hey nadeel is ook wel dat er te weinig plaats zal zijn voor een ziekenhuis ze hebben nu een straat met huizen gemaakt op de plek van de kerk
@barthoekstra6760
@barthoekstra6760 4 жыл бұрын
@@larsdekoninck1888 kijk eens aan!
@LordLuc94
@LordLuc94 Жыл бұрын
@@larsdekoninck1888 Bijna 27.000 inwoners is toch geen klein dorpje..? (Voor Europese maatstaven)
@jamescampbell7780
@jamescampbell7780 5 жыл бұрын
What's the value in having notices displayed when the workers only have hard hats and inhaling dust!
@lyle6816
@lyle6816 6 жыл бұрын
If this guy goes any slower, mold will grow on his machine!
@peon9282
@peon9282 4 жыл бұрын
Lyle You can‘t just tear a whole building down in an hour like muricans do xD
@mohikaan96
@mohikaan96 3 жыл бұрын
@@peon9282 jij snapt het ik zit zelf in de sloop en doe dit werk nu bijna 17 jaar en ik hoor iedereen klagen over hoe langzaam het wel niet gaat terwijl daar een paar redenen voor zijn. In nederland heb je trouwens ook in de meeste gevallen stenen stalen en betonnen gebouwen en constructies in amerika in de meeste gevallen hout ik heb ook nog nooit een amerikaan met een sorteergrijper gezien volgensmij kennen ze dat nieteens Hier in nederland word er vaak terplekke gescheiden bij de bron maarja als alles zoals in amerika uit 1 en hetzelde matriaal bestaald valt er weinig te sorteren dan kan je indd wel gewoon gaan beuken en prakken
@nickbeam5432
@nickbeam5432 4 жыл бұрын
You know your slow when the building falls down faster then you can tear it down.
@mikethebike5014
@mikethebike5014 5 жыл бұрын
What a shame
@Batman-wv5ng
@Batman-wv5ng 5 жыл бұрын
mike the bike I agree 100%.
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
We still have 2 other churches in our village, this one wasnt used for a very long time
@colinbaker2791
@colinbaker2791 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy working so slow?
@Batman-wv5ng
@Batman-wv5ng 5 жыл бұрын
Colin Baker He’s probably been cursed .
@smoothfags20
@smoothfags20 5 жыл бұрын
Way too much editing here. You cut out huge chunks and didn`t follow through certain clips.
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
This is filmed over the course of a couple days - dont judge him too hard.🙂
@davidkretzschmar1818
@davidkretzschmar1818 4 жыл бұрын
Why???
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 4 жыл бұрын
Because the Diocese needed the money, there are houses now at this place. No church tax in the Netherlands, the church is broke. Main reason for closure: very low church attendance.
@FloHilux69
@FloHilux69 4 жыл бұрын
This was build without machines and a lot of skill and passion. Now some idiots tear it apart with only using joysticks like its playstation.
@gahtsno1
@gahtsno1 4 жыл бұрын
it is only the visible consequence of a aimless hurling secular society.
@klegolas4088
@klegolas4088 2 жыл бұрын
It sure is the operators decision what buildings will be left to stand...
@Guillermo-xz4dg
@Guillermo-xz4dg Жыл бұрын
@@gahtsno1 Nobody cares
@doedoebirds1
@doedoebirds1 5 жыл бұрын
come on. these guys are just playing around , the machine can move a lot faster than that, if your bringing it down. Do it.. make up your mind on what to grab and bring it down...dam, they must be getting paid by the hour...
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
I think they had strict rules on when they must bring down some parts so dont be mad please🙂
@mr.google7040
@mr.google7040 4 жыл бұрын
Waarom werd het gesloopt dan?
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 4 жыл бұрын
Omdat de kerk vóór de sloop al een aantal jaren leeg stond. Er was een discussie over het eventueel geven van een andere bestemming aan het kerkgebouw, onder andere een multifunctioneel centrum. Technisch was dat mogelijk, maar de kosten van verbouwen en met name het onderhoud van het pand in de jaren daarna was een struikelblok. Dus besloot men tot sloop. En op de plaats waar de kerk stond ligt nu een deel van de centrumring en achter de kerk zijn huizen gebouwd.
@karend6156
@karend6156 5 жыл бұрын
where is the bolt of lighting from God good job King Henry 8 didnt have one off these machines when he went on a rampage with the churches back in his day
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
He would have indeed😆😅
@operator_since_birth7799
@operator_since_birth7799 6 жыл бұрын
Da ich selber Baumaschinen fahre, mag man mir ein kurzes Statement über den Fahrstil nicht verübeln. Ich finde es zT etwas kurios wie der Maschinenführer an die Sache herangeht, und es macht mir auch den Anschein, dass er, vielleicht auch nur auf dieser Maschine noch nicht über sehr viel Erfahrung verfügt. Sowohl von der Arbeit an sich als auch der Führung der Maschine.
@toleyik5401
@toleyik5401 5 жыл бұрын
operator_since_birth Was hat er denn falsch gemacht? Hab schon Schlimmeres gesehen.
@desertbob6835
@desertbob6835 3 жыл бұрын
Neo-Gothic from 1907...completely impractical today.
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
Agree.....and way to expensive to try to maintain! Glad to see it demolished!
@LordLuc94
@LordLuc94 Жыл бұрын
Which style of church is still practical today? Is that the point of religious buildings?
@biniamhabte6148
@biniamhabte6148 3 жыл бұрын
Sham on you to demolished the church sham on you sham on you
@pietdeboer8381
@pietdeboer8381 10 ай бұрын
Worden in deze tijd veel te veel materiaal weggegooid
@williamradford8817
@williamradford8817 4 жыл бұрын
A local parish church gets demolished
@doedoebirds1
@doedoebirds1 5 жыл бұрын
some one that knows what he's doing with a recking ball , would of been a lot faster....
@gahtsno1
@gahtsno1 4 жыл бұрын
Think about the ground condition of the Netherlands; it is sandy and swampy. If you drop too much at once, the water mains and other structures far around might not be too pleased.
@mohikaan96
@mohikaan96 3 жыл бұрын
Er moet gescheiden worden bij de bron dat scheelt een hoop geld namelijk je kan niet zomaar gaan zitten aan rommelen zoals ik mensen vaak zie doen in amerika ik doe dit werk zelf nu 17 jaar en alles gebeurd met een reden
@fokkemaat
@fokkemaat 6 жыл бұрын
Waar was dit
@adhessels
@adhessels 6 жыл бұрын
Dongen, Noord Brabant
@peterbruinenberg5739
@peterbruinenberg5739 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelanovianadebruijn1273 Kan jij geen Nederlands?.
@paulbink452
@paulbink452 5 жыл бұрын
Al die arme vogeltjes, die hun nestje in de dakspanten gemaakt hadden. Met gebroken hart moesten ze hun jonkies schreeuwend van angst en pijn achterlaten.
@peteacher52
@peteacher52 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm ... all those brittle tinder-dry timbers - a conflagration waiting to happen. And all of that unreinforced masonry and brickwork - massive compressive strength but virtually no tensile (sideways) strength, as we saw. The slightest unexpected earthquake would spell disaster for this building and many others like it. IMO, a timely deconstruction.
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 5 жыл бұрын
There are no earthquakes in Noord Brabant
@gahtsno1
@gahtsno1 4 жыл бұрын
there were girders above the arches. I think they were anchored in the walls. But I agree, if a quake of about 6 for a minute hits any European city, not much will be remaining upright. With that I also mean modern "safe" structures. They are usually too stiff, especially those of concrete.
@dimievers5573
@dimievers5573 2 жыл бұрын
@@gahtsno1 you base your knowledge on what ?? please don't say american building practices , this church has stood there for a long long time , much longer than most american buildings last .FYI this building stood for 102 years
@gahtsno1
@gahtsno1 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimievers5573 My profession and large horizon in my profession gives me my base. Why do you think I am bashing American style?? I am talking about contemporary building fashion in general - more design, less durable and physically too often over the limits!
@dimievers5573
@dimievers5573 2 жыл бұрын
@@gahtsno1 hmm I was more thinking in the lines of dutch building methods being bashed. Including the way we demolishe buildings. I am lately reading up a lot on American building methods and in specific reasons for premature collapse of those structures due to speed building, cutting corners for early completion and budgets cuts . European church building is in this case down to a science and they stand for centuries without failure. It just seemed like that I guess
@010rot
@010rot 2 жыл бұрын
wel meer licht op tafel
@opoxious1592
@opoxious1592 2 ай бұрын
Een kerk hoort bij de Nederlandse cultuur. Absurd dat dit soort monumenten gesloopt wordt
@NadeemALZayed-ed3cz
@NadeemALZayed-ed3cz 4 жыл бұрын
🚜🏥 💭 ☺
@joek7149
@joek7149 3 жыл бұрын
N
@juergen07091973
@juergen07091973 4 жыл бұрын
Der Mörtel scheint ja ziemlich bröselig zu sein....
@operator_since_birth7799
@operator_since_birth7799 6 жыл бұрын
Über den Abbruch an sich zu diskutieren ist müssig und irgendwie auch sinnfrei. Solange die Hintergründe nicht bekannt sind, zumindest mir sind sie es nicht sollte in keine Richtung spekuliert werden. Und bevor ein Gebäude nicht mehr genutzt wird und langsam vor sich hin rottet bis zum Zerfall...wäre ein Abriss sicher eine denkbare Variante. Den Zerfall von, gerade Denkmalgeschützen Gebäuden, welche nur unter enorm hohem, finanziellem Aufwand gemacht werden darf sieht man ja oft genug.
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 5 жыл бұрын
Dieses dorf hatte zwei kirchen. Diese kirche war viel zu gross und im winter nicht zu heisen fur die 30 kirchganger.
@operator_since_birth7799
@operator_since_birth7799 5 жыл бұрын
AndreasAntoniusMaria Thx fr nf!
@saschafunk1644
@saschafunk1644 5 жыл бұрын
The holy ghost is gone, but the heavently dust is everywhere.
@wilettamiller9387
@wilettamiller9387 5 жыл бұрын
the backhoe operator has no experience. he is driving me nuts
@mackhopper
@mackhopper 2 жыл бұрын
THIS is repurposing materials! BRAVO!!!
@labananiere
@labananiere 2 жыл бұрын
Dommage cette construction Eglise me semblait fort saine et sainte. En France on a des méthodes bien plus expéditives, révolution 1789 débile on est pas mieux lotis que nos voisins (Macron )... Comme exemple à la révolution, voir démolition de l'abbatiale de Cluny une église romane de 200 mètres de long, qui fais mieux?
@Mossyz.
@Mossyz. 5 жыл бұрын
Now there is a mosque in it,s place :(
@AndreasAntoniusMaria
@AndreasAntoniusMaria 5 жыл бұрын
No. There are not enough Muslims in this tiny village.
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 5 жыл бұрын
There is already a mosque in Dongen, it is part of the Turkish culture centre. It is barely recognisable as a mosque, and there is no trouble about it.
@robert3302
@robert3302 5 жыл бұрын
According to the Wikipedia article, it was replaced by housing.
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 5 жыл бұрын
@@robert3302 Wikipedia is only partial right.. At the location where the church was is now the 'city'ring of Dongen. Aside of that part of the 'city'ring are houses now.
@Mossyz.
@Mossyz. 5 жыл бұрын
The Dutch God will be angry .
@barthoekstra6760
@barthoekstra6760 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, he doesn't exist!
@larsdekoninck1888
@larsdekoninck1888 4 жыл бұрын
They left the tower they removed at the beginning.
@MrWillem3333
@MrWillem3333 4 жыл бұрын
God created the eurth! The Dutch made holland themselves !
@meintdussel1240
@meintdussel1240 3 жыл бұрын
the great euro agreed with it ماشاءالله
@duongho3792
@duongho3792 5 жыл бұрын
Mikhail A. Bakunin (1814-1876), great writer Russia : Christianity is the complete negation of common sense and sound reason.Theology is the science of the divine lie.
@gahtsno1
@gahtsno1 4 жыл бұрын
a "great" writer wrote and his nation went to hell with that attitude, now still recovering very slow.
@davidebross6920
@davidebross6920 5 жыл бұрын
Nn si puo demolire queste cose nn capisco. Chi comanda faccia fate ste cosa. Vergognoso anche se pericolosa nn va demolita. Bho
@amyearhart1841
@amyearhart1841 4 жыл бұрын
They should have let all the priests’ abuse survivors come take a whack at it.
@SADRailsim
@SADRailsim 4 жыл бұрын
Amy Earhart must feel good, and the good side of history.
@brendanjones2734
@brendanjones2734 3 ай бұрын
Gave this a thumbs down don't know where the place is or the building JUST SAD TO SEE Wouldn't be too bad if they replaced it with something similar but they prefer to build something ugly The world is loosing caricature that will be seen again
@mo_sighaoui
@mo_sighaoui 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha hahahaha hahaha hahahahahahahahaha hahahaha
@kellymeadows353
@kellymeadows353 3 жыл бұрын
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