That's awesome. I'm a 40K player but I've actually seen a fair number of longtime Fantasy players at my LGS who haven't played any Warhammer since End Times but are now lurking around asking about Old World, watching people play, and picking up kits.

Lack of models for PDF armies is a bummer but at least vampire counts has new soulblight and lends itself to 3rd party super well

I think the prices are more likely to stunt the growth.

Skip the wait and the price gouging by playing Kings of War instead.

its your lucky day isnt it ;)

Part of the reason is, you never wre able to buy them, because they were never in stock.

Having enough models to fulfill orders for the first three months. Even with pre-orders they couldn't fulfill the demand. Now I've been waiting for "made to order" models since the Bretonnian line came out!

@@thomasburns6655 just get a 3d printer, so much better.

@@patgray5402 printer go brrt

if u have 1 model on sale u sell it immediately, it doesn't mean anything until we know how many items were on sale

Pushing AoS 4.0

AoS crap in the way.

​@@josephjustice4553 GEEDUBS has been radio silent on Old World for 3 months - 50% of it's lifetime at this point - Ignoring it for a fortnight to MAYBE a month is understandable to cement and focus on a new product launch imo but we're not even getting one measly background or update post a month for life support lmao. I'm assuming they're just comfortable with the health of Old World and are sure it'll survive the downtime. Maybe they're even reworking their plans for it who knows.

Dude that sucks I’m sorry 😢

Kings of War, dude. It's Warhammer Fantasy but streamlined in a good way, and with cheaper models (for the most part; think GW prices from 10 to 15 years ago).

What do you mean by legacy armies getting some attention? I haven't heard that rumour.

@@ThorekIronbrow 3:15 in the video he talked about the legacy factions and core factions getting merged some point because of the success of Old World so far. Not just this video heard a lot of other people across the Old World community saying this, obvs just rumors. I could also see it from a balance standpoint as some of the legacy factions have performed well, others less, so maybe even just a point adjustment for some of the pdfs.... who knows! but regardless I think as the video pointed out things are looking positive for the game and more should be expected for the future of the game.

@@camwardart Ah that's really cool, thank you for all the detail. That would be really neat. 🤞

Do you need the 6th edition Lustria pdf? There's some awesome mechanics and scenarios in there that 100% translate to old world

@@lucaswatson1913 I downloaded a pdf today and am going to 100% import some stuff in. Great suggestion!

Orc and G is more chaos based. Fanatics, some artillery, spells are how you get hte big swingy shit.

Fixed the title, thanks for letting us know! :)

Can't believe it's been so long, still feels like a very new and exciting game!

@@MordianGlory yea it dropped in January and we now upon July

„Over 3 months“ is still technically correct

@Philtopy it is, but not as accurate. Also the slow release of the core armies is hurting the growth of the game. They had 5 years to get 20 year old models ready and they still couldn't do it

Ah, interesting. I also came over from Total War. Although I started with 9th Age first, since that's what guys were playing at the time. Now, moving over to Old World.

My local GW shop has consistently sold out all books and miniatures as soon as they arrive.

Same. The guy in the shop was very negative about it, said he could not understand why they had brought it back and thought it was just to placate all the people moaning about it being gone. They just had two starter boxes and nothing else. He said everything else would be online only and no new models made.

See this is why the game will eventually fail. The company putting it out doesn’t support it.

That’s crazy. There’s hundreds of people playing here.

What area are you in then?

The North Pole

I live in the Wisconsin area. I’m blessed to have a game store in town but no one in the area play. They just started to get into sigmar because of its next edition

Depends where you are. There's a lot of people playing in the Houston area

Old World has some issues and some strange rule design choices, it's not perfect but most people I know find it a much better game than current 40k 10th edition. Content creators that talk about the subject have openly stated that 40k views are dropping away and the game isn't in a good place. SN have dropped 40k coverage and events, along with selling off their own 40k armies to concentrate on Horus Heresy with some Old World coverage as 40k was bringing in very little to the point the channel was in risk of collapse.

Awesome, thank you!

I’m building up sn army at the moment of the models from highland miniatures but I will definitely buy the gw models when they arrive

Fireforge Miniatures make some really nice humans, good for DoW or northern Empire, Ostlund comes to mind

I got lucky as a goblin enjoyer. Building a Night Goblin army right now and it’s turning out to be a glorious horde

DO IT! Proxies all the way! All we need GW for is the world and lore the inherited from their forebares. That and possibly rules.

Are you trying to bulk buy or slow grow buy? I know it’s still the same price but staggering the cost helps, plus Fireforge and Mantic make some beautiful models your FLGS can get for you

@@bluemoonlunalla9747 I would have slow grown but with the "made to order" models you can't wait. Or if you expect to be able to play in a GW tournament, you haven't been able to get half the models since day one and they don't let you use proxies in their official tournaments.

@@thomasburns6655 yeah, I get what you mean, one thing I’ve noticed is with Middle Earth, they do MTO for that game all the time and seem rotate things every couple of years. And yeah, I know it’s frustrating trying to catch MTO and start an army, it doesn’t make things easy in any sense, good thing the game is wider than Games Workshop, I mean, there aren’t official GW tournaments in Australia so using other ranges isn’t an issue here, same with Legacy lists

Will die in a few years if GW continues to have shitty release plans like they right now have and are not willing to work on the legacy factions. Just as a reminder: The first faction announced was Kislev, guess what happened to the idea ... it got canceled. Thats the way GW thinks about Old World. Low investment to milk the nostalgic monkeys. If you want a Warhammer Fantasy Game, older ediotions and Fanmade Editions like Armies Project are just way way way better.

Oh they monetized it alright. But they price themselves out of customers. I'm willing to pay a premium for GW models but $86 for ONE model is ridiculous. Then they'll discontinue stuff because no one can afford to spend $6k to get every Bretonnian model at once. It's just an unrealistic sales model. I thought they'd have learned that by now. 40 years should be a sufficient learning curve to avoid some of these major oversights.

Until The End Times GW had released nothing major for WHFB for quite a few years, many players had armies and with not many new releases coming out they didn't see the need to spend. They just played the game. Then End Times arrived and GW couldn't keep up with supply for the new rule supplements and completely under estimated demand it was the first time I recall of people queuing before stores opened in desperation to get hold of the few copies that arrived in GW stores. GW could have kept that going, supported it with new releases, etc, but were already committed to the release of Age of Sigmar with it's new no points, no tournament structure, wear a hoodie get rerolls rules that turned away many old hands that enjoyed WHFB. The simple fact was GW wanted and still wants to attract new young gamers who will spend heavily, or have parents who will do the same rather than keep hold of older gamers who have spent plenty and no longer need to carry on spending especially when GW don't release anything new for their faction for years. Even army books could carry on over multiple editions without an update.

Simon a fanatic???

@@briarsandbantams A little Easter egg hidden in the video 😉

@@ProxyHammer1 I finally saw it! I was painting the first time I played the video. I fully support and encourage the goblinification of Simon's saltiness.

@@briarsandbantams lol Ikr!

Yes, the game has huge gameplay problems, but nostalgia is to strong in many people. Try Warhammer Armies project. Way better tabletop game, way better implementation of the lore and way way way cooler armies with a lot more options.

Using Sigmar models?

​@@WreckItRolfe 3d printing and other retailers. It's easy to get generic fantasy dwarfs

Oh shit! Not got my army finished yet but I'm glad to hear there will be an active scene once it is!

I think the problem is that they only have had 5 armies so far. If they did a BR with Skaven, Lizardmen, or Chorfs i could see them picking back up. 3 i think of their BR have been vampire counts so i think people are just waiting to see a new faction.

I really miss the good old days of TT when the B-bone still worked there, nowadays it is really obnoxious with all weird jokes and derpy sounds they make when they play, it is just too much of that for my liking, so I get tired after about 5 minutes and stop watching

Their old world battle reports are not that good tbh

I mean, TT is a crap shoot. Basically 'is Chef playing? Then it will be a good match. If not... pass.' A lot of other presenters seem to just throw a Dragon forward

@@derekgehring2771 true Chef is a good lad

It's a specialist studio game, so it's a drip feed release schedule. GW is occupied with AoS 4th edition this Summer.

Try Armies Project, a fantastic fanmade Warhammer Game

Dont you like paying 30$ for 8 pages of rules :(

And Old World isnt even a good Warhammer Fantasy system ...