That was exactly my thought. Like way to ruin a good porn. As a porn it's solid af as a movie tho it's bad. Should've stayed in your lane.

Replace Elaine's murder with longer sex scenes. Make it so Mary researches Grace's background after learning about her not actually having been sent by the company. Now the movie actually has less plot holes.

Split personalities are so 2005.

It's like somebody started with a concept of softcore lesbian step-daughter wrapped into a classic nanny fantasy and sold the movie based on that. Then they just started filming without any concept of where it would go or how they would finish it. Like at one point the main character is the prime suspect in her best-friends murder and the police are like "we have you dead to rights, it's an open and shut case" and then explain all the evidence that proves she did it. For some reason they don't arrest her and next scene she is talking with her husband in the lobby of the police station who was like "where were you last night when you disappeared for three hours?" really driving home the point that she killed her best friend. Then she suddenly runs out of the police station all flustered and just drives away. That's literally the end of that plot line. The police never come looking for her, nor is she exonerated. There's no follow through on that whatsoever... She. Just. Leaves. Also there's no closure on whether the husband survives after being stabbed by the now visibly crazed nanny. One scene he's bleeding out in the shower and then the next they show the main character putting flowers at a grave and it's not clear whether it's her husband's grave or her best friend that she supposedly killed in some dissociative episode. Also the main character (a bestselling author) leaves her unpublished, hand-written manuscript worth $2 million by the grave because of course a best-selling author would just leave their hand-written unpublished manuscript in a public place because why not? Then she's visiting the now incarcerated nanny at what appears to be some secure group home for mental patients and when she leaves she's wearing the same outfit as she was when she was caught on camera leaving the crime scene of her best friend's murder and the dramatic music plays to indicate that this is some mind-bending twist when they already went out of their way to drive home the point that she was killer back at the police station. Camera pans up to the blue clouds in the sky... "The End" This is supremely irritating because all it does is rub your face in the fact that they didn't follow through on the murder of the best friend. She just lives happily ever after... Like how does that tie anything together?? It's like bad story telling of an unfinished story that got rushed to completion for the sake of producing softcore lesbian step-daughter porn as a twist on the classic "nanny seduces husband" trope.

"Take out the porn" ? Did you not watch the bathtub scene?

yeah.

My thoughts exactly. It's wrong on so many levels and in so many movies it's not even necessary. A mentally healthy person choosing these actions is much more terrifying than someone trying to protect themselves and shifting personalities. Fingers crossed this is the final installment of a garbage subgenre

Thank you for saying this! That's how I felt immediately when the twist was revealed and I haven't seen any other reviews talking about how damaging that trope is to the DID community.

Absolutely this. Also, it’s so strange when they infantilize the “insane/mentally unstable” characters once they start getting treatment for their mental health. So many weird mental health tropes in this movie

WOOO SAY IT LOUDER

at least evil twins aren't a real, harmful stereotype (I hope).

We need more evil twins

I'd pay good money for Devito and Arnie volume 2!

@@katenz100 omg I googled it because of this comment I LOVE that that movie even exist. Now I need a sequel of them turning evil.

@@Pablo360able evil twins are definitely a harmful sterotyopes. People could view twins as creepy for no reason other than they shared a womb at the same time.Its almost as bad as the "souless ginger" trope ive seen. The bottomline is nothing is orignial and hollywoo is lazy

yeah.

And the identical twin

personally think it's worse with how damaging it is to the way people view DID

_...I used to read word-up magazine_

imo it's worse

that is so cute

So wholesome

That’s adorable, I’d be annoyed too lol

I’d watch that show

My ex girlfriend had did, and she wasn't some scary movie type cereal killer, I hate movies like that

It worries me that there are ppl out there who take fiction as fact. I REALLY don’t want my entertainment watered down just because some ppl are too ignorant or lazy to educate themselves. Willing suspension of disbelief exists for a reason. I learned that in 4th grade ffs. 🤦‍♂️

@@nolaray1062 I know people who see one thing on the media or a rare instance of someone with a mental disorder such as Schizophrenia mistaking someone for something else and murdering them and just assuming everyone is like that and just negatively associating one insane case with an entire group of people who are entirely innocent. In a world where mental disorders like Depression and Anxiety seem to get so much attention and 'understand positivity' more serious mental disorders still go unnoticed and continue to get the shitty end of the stick and terrible stigma for no good reason. If people would simply take the time to separate fiction from reality the world would be a better place.

@@sarcasm8007 scream it louder! Separate fiction from reality! It’s ridiculous how some ppl seem unable to do that.

Sup Pixie ❤️

god same. mr robot is the only piece of media i've seen that handles DID well, i think.

@@btmlsmlk he had a psychotic disorder not DID

@@noiz1762 It was confirmed that Elliot had DID though, Mr. Robot was an alter of his that he was having mental breaks over trying to rationalize the gaps in time he had when he took over.

Not a movie, but Ace Attorney 6 subverts the DID-killer cliche. It's notable because the whole franchise is about the player figuring out murders

I’ve only seen United States of Tara handle DID without someone being a killer.

That's what i thought too... That her writing process was gonna literally have her losing touch with reality.... But instead we get some lifetime movie twist that honestly makes the whole movie feel like a waste of time.

and the fact she went into the dressing room!! like my mom doesn’t even do that with me lol what

Exactly

Please write stories

@@Sonicsis its aways been a dream of mine

@@sabrinacarper3187 or... has it? DUN DUN DUN 😱

@@kerrychristensen7204 lol, typo plot twist

i was literally thinking the same thing

honestly that would have been better

I had that thought as well!!

That would have been better

same!!!! i thought mary was either entirely imagining grace actually existed or she was entirely imagining all of their encounters

Me too and that would have been so much better.

I KNOW. Im sick of it, its gross and needs to stop

@@Icarus2134 Ever Since Split it seems like every month theres a new split personality movie

agreed that's not how it works.

Amen.

I'm so happy people are talking about this I'm friends with a few systems too and they are some of the nicest and coolest people I have ever been able to talk to

As I recall, Bill Clinton got a then record $10 million 20 years ago. And that was as a first time non-fiction author.

remind me to get into the YA game

@@SwellEntertainment It is a total shitshow, but I'd be happy to help :P

@@SwellEntertainment Lindsay Ellis has a video about how to do just that from a base of being a KZfaqr. She says it takes about 10 years. Ellis, I'm pretty sure, did not get 7 figures. She seems to be doing well though.

The Obamas got a $65M book advance.

Right! And then the “evil” character with the mental health disorder is infantilized once they start treatment for their disorder. So weird and bad

I’m more tired of the ppl who are too lazy to educate themselves on actual issues rather than taking works of fiction as textbook examples. I have bipolar disorder and I don’t mind when movies or books use it in a fictitious way. I DO mind when ppl assume thats how it is. But then again there are ppl who believe that there are fire breathing dragons hiding somewhere so humanity may just be doomed by the idiots no matter what.

Ikr! Esp cuz ppl with DID only get it from going through severe trauma as children, like their the victims of abuse not the abusers

They make mental illness so hip and stylish and it's not.

I don't have DID or schizophrenia or any disorders like that but wouldn't it make more sense if there was a horror movie about how people abuse people with mental illness/disabilities..?

if they dont turn out to be evil they end up lying about having it

I think the show “Mr. Robot” has a good representation of DID, and the person having it is the main protagonist 🤷🏻‍♀️

United States of tara did an excellent portrayal of someone with DID

One day I'm gonna make a movie where the protagonist has DID and they defeat the villain despite the challenges

*aspiring

@@orimengu ......you know what that is incredibly ironic considering the writer thing lol

same.

I did a stock and now I'm broke. Who could have ever predicted it ?!! Certainly not the stock market. /s

@@ArturGlass.C “I did a stock” 😂

Yes I would like one stock please thank you

Yup I’m not even planning to watch the movie. Amanda did a great job telling the story lol

I've often watched Amanda instead of actual movies or series. Lol. (Other Amanda too)

I think it's because she reviews mostly bad or mediocre movies lol.

True i watch her videos so i dont waste my time on these movies

that could work, or that the mc just imagined grace to make herself feel more appreciated.

There's also an overlap there since the crossdressing murderers are explained as having split personalities

I think the writers needs it too ngl

Nothing good. Now you know 👍🏻

The switching every other sentence is for the most part an exaggeration- like it can definitely happen for short periods of time but it tends to mess up the system pretty bad- there’s a term for it but I don’t remember what it is. In general tho, just like with a lot of DID stuff, there is wild variation from system to system. I don’t have it but I’m close friends with 2 systems and am an obsessive researcher of things I don’t understand.

@@zacharyenglish2904 I agree. Rapid switching can happen but it usually doesn’t happen for a long time without fucking everyone up. Rapid switching is stressful

I got more co fronting vibes from it? Like they can both speak but only her alter has control of the body

How did you post 18 hours ago

@@iscott3187 probably Patreon

Amanda. Queen of "I will waste my time and money so thousands of others wont have to"

I unfortunately watched this... I was hoping they’d go the route of the nanny didn’t exist but NOOOO

Why is this one day old💀

That would be a great twist. No real murder or sexual affairs, just, "I turn into a different person when I write... in my office with the slow leak from that pesky, non-working gas fireplace, I turn into a very sleepy and confused person. Man, it feels great to get out of there and get some fresh air at the bra store! That's one of my top five places to go to not write, think about boobs and how I might be into women."

They could have just had Grace be Manipulative and not have based anything on DID or mental disorders. But I guess Hollywood thinks we can’t have “crazy” or “evil” characters without giving them a reason to be so.

Void Stiles was hella cool of a trope ngl.

@@ArturGlass.C agreed. Season 3 was my personal favorite, and Void Stiles was the main reason for it.

I literally love that trope too !! Especially when a beloved character is possessed like Void Stiles AHH amazing

I agree it works in fantasy, but DID is not fantasy its real and they ruin perception of DID by doing this

Illiterate nannies are of less value

I think Mary and Grace are maybe the same people.

I was thinking the same thing lol heavy rain felt like it was going some where then dropped the concept just like this movie it's so annoying

@@nicoleg6284 in case you didn't know, originally, Ethan and Shelby had a psychic link so every time a killing happened, Ethan blacked out and had nightmares of floodings.

@@SoaringLettuce I never knew that actually! Lol wow that really is left field considering the end product! It would have been interesting to see how that would have went over in a "how on earth do you begin to explain that" way lol

@@nicoleg6284 the scenes and the monologue explaining it do exist in some extra footage features, the supernatural aspect really was removed last minute.

@@SoaringLettuce Wished they did a better job covering up that choice with Ethan section and the plotholes

Misery ?

@@ArturGlass.C Oh damn! I completely mixed that up! 😓

And honestly demonizing wlw as well? Really nasty all around.

@@littleleakyleakythere plus literally doing the thing horror films in the fucking 80s did where the black character dies first completely unironically? gross as fuck

Well, what you sow is what you reap. Have happy suffering with this.

Ugh me too I’m literally just gonna write my own murder mystery about someone with DID that doesn’t end with them being a killer

@@mercurywise4047 please send it to me when you’re done. I’d love to see it.

Honestly hate it when people paint persecutors in systems as violent people. They are just misguided protectors and shouldn’t be treated poorly

Protectors deserve more love they shouldn't be seen as villains they have feelings too

@@Your_Local_Bushman very true

What if it's like "we made you think it was an "DID evil" trope but she ACTUALLY has an evil twin!"

@@justasleebylilguylittlesle1496 If Mary was the killer, though, it would be Mary trying to take advantage of a girl with DID to frame her rather than her actually being the dangerous one.

I thought the same thing when I was watching it!! Would have been way better then the DID twist

Right! A "split personality" felt offensive and wrong, and even unoriginal. Mary could still have sympathy for Grace even tho she would just be a "crazy stalker" because of what happened to her and her siblings growing up. That would've been more progressive and original! Whyyyy chose the DID path with no reason at all except "ooooh person with did equals crazy dangerous" * spooky sounds *

Same

But you're definitely right though. You had this slow burn that really felt like it was going to be a hard hitting psychological thriller.... Then it ends up just being some really generic lifetime movie when the second half hits. Wasting any potential that it had in the first half.

This is sarcasm, right?? 😭

@@jas7687 I hope it is please-

Knives Out was really not a good twist tho. I really enjoyed the movie but the twist was extremely obvious.

@@ArturGlass.C ENDING TWIST SPOILER: You knew that she had given him the right dose all along...

@@kerenescobar7273 SPOILER: Yes. The movie was framed as a "Who dunnit" movie it was obvious that she wasn't the actual murderer and that they'd have to been a twist. I assumed she switched the bottle but it was the wrong bottle which was actually the right bottle. Then with the movie progressing it made sense it was Chris Evans. Why the fuck would a "Who dunnit" movie reveal the murder in the first par of the movie. They ruined it with the execution. Still a very enjoyable movie with a great cast but yeah.

Those two movies were so good! I could watch them 15 times and still enjoy them.

@@ArturGlass.C MORE SPOILERS: I respectfully disagree. They toss out the whole "who's the bad guy" "who done it" early on because well... that's kinda an old trope and instead focuses on the motivation (everyones, and and everyone motivation matters and pushes the story forward), why, and how he did it. We learn more and more about these characters and then at the end we find out how Chris dose it (switching the tags)... and when we find out that she actually gave him the right one and its sad and bittersweet because none of this had to happen. The execution was phenomenal. But hey at the end of the day it was SO much better that Deadly Illusions.

yeah. i rlly like danganronpa, but holy shit does it have issues. like how horrible its portrayal of trauma and of mental & personality illnesses/disorders is. especially, obvsly, with DID.

someone in my system (an old host) loved danganronpa a few years back. i honestly can’t even play the games anymore because of how toko and syo were handled. it’s a shame, i want to like the games still but i just cant bring myself to.

Ouch!

there's also countless HILARIOUS editing mistakes