How long does it take to get the new long block for the 2.0. Once its ordered from the Ford Factory. It's been 3.5 weeks since the Service manager told me he ordered my long block for my 2017 Escape Titanium AWD 2.0 For water intrusion in my engine. In the 2nd and 3rd cylinders. Then he said 1.5 months before the new long block replacement starts. Just want to know if I am on target for the time schedule. The Service Manager is very vague on info. Everytime I ask a question. Is this normal? Thanks, For your Awesome info. Ford Boss me. Shawn.

It's borderline criminal that Ford keeps making engines like this.

Catching that drip three times on the camera! Wow, the money shot. I bet a judge would like to see what FMC calls Quality One

Because of your video I caught our 2019 fusion 2.0 ecoboost losing coolant without a leak! Took it to the dealer and they confirmed coolant intrusion. Fortunately the warranty had 2,000 miles left, so It was covered just in time! Keep up the amazing videos!

Ford should've issued a recall for this!!!! It is ridiculous to have a newer model vehicle that needs an engine replacement!!!!

Thank you very much for walking us through the through process of diagnosing coolant intrusion into Ecoboost engines. You are a born teacher and a pleasure to learn from .

Exactly what my wife's 2019 Edge is doing. Coolant tank drains everytime you shut off the motor with no drip marks on the driveway. White smoke with a strange smell. Thank God it's under warranty and I will know the terminology to discuss with the service manager. Thank you so much ❤️

I'm digging this video format. I know it's probably hard to do this all the time, but yeah I like it

Had exact same problem on a 2017 Edge 2.0 that was just 8000 miles out of warranty. Ford said too bad so sad, a new engine cost me $6000. It is criminal that they know it’s a problem and issued a TSB on exactly how to fix it. The service manager at my Ford dealer told me exactly what it was based on the symptoms and told me about the class action lawsuits. Ford brushed me off and said, “keep your receipt, if we do a recall you will get reimbursed”. Not likely. Made a NTSB complaint

👍🏻 thanks for sharing your work. I love how you still verify the problem, regardless of how common the problem is. Watching your vids makes me miss working in the automotive field

Great video and even better commentary. Thanks for putiting this together. Can't wait to see Part 2. This already happened to my 2016 Edge; still under warranty, and it cost FMC north of $8K for the long block replacement, not counting the six weeks of driving a loaner on Ford's dollar which after two weeks was exchanged for a new 2020 Ford Edge from the lot so they didn't have to keep paying the renntal car company for a vehicle. Eventually I got my 2016 Edge back and she is as tight and clean as ever. Love the Edge.

You are 1 thorough ford/dealer tech... a rare breed 😁....👍🏻 . Every tech should have a yourube channel

If you are out of warranty with this type of problem I recommend a liquid product called K Seal. It is not the same as a mechanical repair but the cost is minimal and I've had it work successfully on three Ford vehicles. If you're out of warranty and in this spot you don't have much to lose by trying. Thanks for making these videos and sharing your skills.

This is exactly what my 2017 Escape 2.0 is doing. Cold start misfire, lasts about 5 seconds, MIL light is on. . I have an appt with my Ford dealer to look at it in 2 days. I have taken videos of it misfiring and blowing white smoke , (with an strong antifreeze smell) on cold starts only, because it doesn’t do it every time. Also, I have had to fill up the almost empty coolant reservoir twice in the last 2 weeks. Lucky for me I still have about 2months left on my 5year PT warranty. I have about 47,700 miles on it. I’m sure I will get the call from my dealer that this engine needs to be replaced for coolant intrusion into a cylinder. Scary how close to the end of my warranty this has occurred. Thank you for the very informative video.

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain what is going on, how to diagnose, why it happens, and what the solution is. Videos are much appreciated!

Nice explanation of the diagnosis. I'm impressed with catching the drip on the camera screen.

The exact same thing happened to my wife’s edge. Same year, same engine. Long block replacement took about three weeks. We just got the oil changed after the 1000 mile break in. Started with a check engine light and a misfire code.

I had this same model escape, 2017 2.0 SE. Ran trouble free from new to 70k. Not one problem. Changed all the fluids multiple times, ptu, diffs, trans. Glad I sold it before anything went wrong. Only thing I changed other than fluids were rear shocks. 🤙

Ford needs to bring back the Windsor 5.0L 302 CID V-8. Decent on gas cheap to fix and never had these problems.

what a great engine tech.

You have NO CLUE how important this video is! We have a '17 Edge Tatanium and the check engine light has been on for 2 yrs now. I put coolant in, but its always damn near empty the next day

I have a shop in Los Angeles and a new customer came in with a 2017 Escape 2.0 eco boost yesterday with a P0301 P0300.. pulled the plugs and sure enough cyl 3 indicated coolant exposure. Opened up the radiator cap and sure enough got the soda bottle pressure release. Told him at 66k miles he’s going to need a long block and I e-mailed him a KZfaq video of this common issue (considering he’s a first-time customer with exceptionally low mileage and I’m trying to sell him an engine - not quite the best first impression). He was shocked and honestly just beside himself about it. I told him this is why I keep all my old cars, 2 of which are well past 300k miles with really nothing much needed and seldom repairs. I feel like newer cars are so disposable these days.

Thanks for taking the time to put out these informative videos. Excellent explanation and step by step diagnosis.

So we are running into that exact same problem. But in our case we bought the 2017 Edge used and within 48 hours it popped the P0316. Dealer replaced the plugs when they took it in on trade, obviously because of a misfire as dealers DO NOT just throw money at trade ins without justification. With the sales group giving us the run around and attempting to make a claim on the extended warranty, I finally let them in on the fact that I retired from Ford as a factory tech. Now they replacing the long block after the warranty company spoke with me and denied the claim for being pre-existing the purchase. Still don’t trust them but we will see. It’s sad I had to contact some people I knew at Ford in Detroit to get them to do the right thing. Excellent video by the way.

Greetings from Brazil. I've been following some videos about this serious problem in these engines and I think that if some skillful and creative mechanic develops some not very expensive way to recover these blocks effectively with some kind of soldering, etc., they could make a lot of money because there are so many blocks with the same defect.

Thanks for the great video. I just got my 2017 MKC back from an oil change and the dealer noticed the coolant was low. I'll be bringing it back next week for the pressure test to determine if it needs a new long block, but the technician is pretty sure it will. It's still under factory warranty, so I hope this all goes smoothly.

I have a 2015 Escape with the 2.0 Ecoboost with a little less than 18,000 miles. Started misfiring a couple of months back. Autozone showed a P0304 so I had a mechanic replace the coil in cylinder 4. He noticed liquid (coolant/ water) between the coil and spark plug. There was enough that it had pooled on top of the plug. He said that certainly should not be happening and that I should take it to a dealer. I got an appointment with my local dealer but another coil went bad in the week it took for the appointment. Towed it to the dealership and they diagnosed it with coolant intrusion. Ford told me to get lost when I called them to ask if they could assist. The dealership wanted just over $15,000 for the long block replacement. I called another local dealership and they could do it for about $4K less than the other dealership. I took the car to them and their mechanic said he did not think it was coolant intrusion since the coolant was not entering the actual cylinder. I haven't lost any significant coolant from the reservoir. I think I added a cup or two of coolant to get it back to between min and max level. He threw another "redesigned" coil and a new plug in it and it has been completely fine for 250 miles or so. Have you seen the coolant intrusion where the coolant sits between the coil and plug?

your video was very helpful for me to find the problem of my ford fusion 2018, thank you a lot

I’ve usually been seeing the coolant over temp codes and a misfire code for this TSB, and yes, you will find when you pull the motor, the old block will have slits between the cylinders and this is usually where the coolant is leaking through into the cylinders. The new block will barely have a nick between the cylinders. Such a shame because I’ve seen a couple escapes come in that are about a year out of warranty and having to tell the customer they need to buy a whole new motor really sucks.

If you buy a vehicle from formerly domestic brands sometimes assembling cars in the US, you deserve it all, wasted time, money and stress also thanks for providing plenty of material for quality entertainment trough channels like this one

My wife's 2018 Ford Edge with 104k miles threw a P0302 code last week. I replaced all 4 plugs and coils and took it to autozone to reset the code. We took the car for a trip from Dallas to West Monroe, Lousiana. About 700 mile round trip. Car seemed fine. Maybe a little rough during idle. Anyways, the code reappeared yesterday after a week. Coolant seems fine. No where close to empty like the one in the video. I'm going to replace the #2 fuel injector. If that doesn't fix the misfire code, guess I'll be visiting the Ford dealer soon. Car is almost paid off too. RIP. Edit: Also forgot to mention, #2 plug was much harder to remove compared to the others. I think we might be beginning to experience this issue. I'll closely be monitoring the coolant for sure.

I had a 2017 Ford Fusion SE 2.0T AWD that had the same fate. It was put back together bad, crank sensor wasn’t on right, charge pipe off and one of the pipes had some random Home Depot bolt instead of the Ford one. I sold it not too long after I got it back. Still love our 2017 Explorer Sport, though! Note: my engine had the coolant/head gasket failure at only 22,000KM

Thank you for the video. I have an update with my daughter's 2017 1.5 Escape. Finally the check engine light went on and I checked and found the code P0302. Also, the coolant reservoir was a lot lower that before. We took it to the dealer again and this time it didn't pass the pressure test, they will replace the block. Thank you again for your advice on this issue. My wife's car is a 2018 2.0L Escape Titanium with 34K miles. I will keep monitoring that one too. Very interested to see you replacing the long block on the one in the video. Now I have the a better understanding of what's going on. It was awesome to see the droplets getting into the cylinder.

hopefully i caught it really early on my moms 2018 its losing coolant but no white smoke and no visual leaks when you showed the hose lines i ran outside and checked all of them the water pump and behind the engine taking it to a shop tomorrow after it hit 2022 everything on it just keeps falling apart so fingers cross its not to bad thank you man

Thanks for the video - very interesting. It looks like an expensive warranty repair for Ford.

Dont know how I'm just now coming across this..... But you know how many Focus ST owners that have no clue this is going on..... I've told alot of people about this problem back in 2014 when just before I retired from the shop, another problem Ive seen from the 2.0ltr ecoboom errr I mean boost 😅 is the crush washers on the coolant line to the turbo failing around 80k-150k( W713212-S300 ) I literally do this every plug change, time it for an hour and check for wetness, because the 1st time I did my plugs in 2021 6mo after buying my 2017 Focus ST, I scoped my cyls, all 4, and they were all clean, and You know that weird feeling you get as a tech, that feeling youre about to be doing alot of work you shouldnt have to do, yeah i had that one. Well I hooked my MAC Tools leak down tester up, and it held, and so i went 30 more mins just as a precaution, still held 21psi, I was seriously relieved.... But also running 1 step colder plugs and 91octane+ and extra precautionary measures, because its a turbo'd engine, cylinders and pistons are still pretty clean for 99,788 miles(literally did a spring tune up, fresh oil, valve check(carbon buildup) new plugs, cyl psi check, leak down on the coolant system, and scoping the cylinders, and scoping the turbo as well, both turbine and compressor housing making sure the prop shaft is good, but I did smell a slight coolant smell a cpl days ago and went ahead and did my spring tune up, amd saw a small speckle of cooked coolant so i pulled the crush washer and got it put back together, all good for now, but as a prior Ford Tech myself I still cant believe this tsb had never turned into a full out recall or a complete recast on the block and reissue, yeah it'll be a cpl billion to replace, but its better than beng sued for a 12-15billion because of how long this has been going on anf the amount of vehicles thst use the 2.0ltr engine.... Reminds me of the Focus RS head gasket problem 🤦 Man I'm glad there are still dealership techs out there going as far as I used to when I worked on the Publics vehicles. You sir have a new sub, and sorry so long 🤦🤙

My dealer did my 2018 escape in two weeks. Thanks for the video.

Thanks for the honest,straightforward information Brother, You be Blessed as well ! And rock on

I can’t imagine how many people have probably had this issue and just trade the vehicle in or give up or end up being out of warranty Had some on and off misfire issues with my ST since I bought it at 25k mikes and I’m now at 36k and coolant also seemed down I’m definitely going to investigate this, I just really hope mine isn’t affected since it’s low mileage and out of warranty

Simple but awesome step-by-step, keep it up Boss.

Using the air on the plugs reminds me of yanking 5.4 3V plugs, get em smokin hot and go in quick with an impact

Greetings and Thanks a lot for this video from ukrainian Edge club. We have a lot of 2.0 Ecoboost here and facing coolant problem here as well. Waiting for new video about solving the problem!

Excellent video. Thank you. I may pickup that scope, it works well.

Thanks for the info, love this video format, topic

Rich great video and presentation from you and as usual great transparency with your presentation, wish we had you working on my ford edge 2019 st line 2.0 eco boost diesel)))) 😀 🇬🇧

I have a 2017 Ford Edge SEL with just over 100k miles. It too has started using coolant. It gave the code PO304 and I replaced the sparks plugs. But it still idles rough at times. No coolant leaks in the garage. I bought the vehicle new and the dealership said they put a LIFETIME WARRANTY on the Engine and Transmission. I’m taking it in to let them diagnose the problem. But it seems like it’s the same issue other Ecoboost owners are having and needs a new block.

Great video, I have a 2019 Ford Edge Titanium, I'm losing coolant in the reservoir, I believe I have the same problem with only 36,000 miles unbelievable..calling the dealership tomorrow in regards to the TSB. Thx You

@FordBossMe will and extended warranty cover this if I bought brand new and bought extended warranty?! I have 2017 ford fusion titanium with 45,000 miles and just had engine light come on with #2 cylinder misfire and I have seen some white smoke once this summer… Thanks for all the support and help friend! E

Very informative video.Thank you for making it easy to understand.

I got an used Edge 2016 around 6 months ago from a very reputable dealership in Burlington ON. The very next day vehicle started showing a check engine light, back to dealership they cleaned the spark plugs and light was gone. Next day the engine light again came on, I came to know about this known issue of coolant leaking into the cylinder. Went back to dealership and left my vehicle there and told them I either need a it fixed once for all or I have to take it concerning authorities as the vehicle was certified. They were kind enough to put a brand new engine and gave me replacement car meanwhile. After the new engine the vehicle is running great, haven’t got any issues.

If I'm getting a warranty repair of this magnitude I would buy two or three more hours for my tech just so he won't have to rush and try to beat the book and maybe miss something in the process

This is the upgraded drive train for the new maverick truck. Hope they have the long block figured out.

Super Great Information, my son has the following codes with his 2017 Focus ST 2.0. With 32,764 miles. I was able to pull the following 4 codes from DTC. 3 codes are showing on your factory lab top computer that was in this awesome video. Took vehicle to Ford dealership due to it being under warranty. My son end up installing a program that VOIDED Warranty. My son being 21 years old. He doesn’t know. ( he’s going to learn the hard way) I ask dealership to proceed at my sons cost. But they did not want to deal with vehicle and still charged my son $140 to void warranty. I found a brand new factory long block for $3500 dollars. Which is not bad. My son works and has excellent credit. With car being paid. He can afford it. But I’m old school and just have a few questions prior to proceeding. 1. PO217 -engine coolant over temperature condition 2. P0316 -misfire detected on startup (first 1000 revolutions) 3. P1026- (ECT)1/ (CHT) 2 correlation 4. P1285- cylinder head over temperature condition 5. Engine coolant was Low 6. White smoke exiting exhaust 7. Attempted coolant system pressure test didn’t exceed 21 psi. System wouldn’t build pressure due to large leak. I hope you can help or gave me advice on the following questions. 1. Why are you recommending that the long block be changed out. I understand that it would be best, is this a Ford dealership standard? But there might be some people who can’t afford this. 2. I’m looking to have head pressured tested and resurfaced if head holds test. 3. If head holds. Will replacing head gasket be efficient?

getting the sloshing noise in the dash. It’s a 2017 titanium 2.0 EcoBoost. No water or coolant on the floor. Noticed the coolant was low but when I opened the cap the coolant level raised back up to the full level? Replaced the reservoir cap but still have the gurgling/sloshing noise. Any suggestions of what it might be? Thanks

Thanks bro great video i learned a lot and this just cleared up all my questions on this long block,,,,,,,, really good bro !!!!!!

Had to replace mines at 15000 miles thank god for the power train warranty smh 2 months without my car had the same issues in this video

This was an amazing and informative video. Keep posting.

Same issue 2016 1.6 L. With Turbo waste gate failure at 106K. New Trans at 72k

I had to drive back a 2017 Ford Edge to our Toyota dealer since it would be 9 grand for the job. There was coolant in cylinder number 1.

Sweet vid...thanks for the tip with removing a stuck plug

I just had this on my 2017 Edge. What cause the coolant to leak into the block like that? My service guy told me he didn't know and Ford doesn't say

Just replaced a 2L engine on a ferd for this issue. Literally still on my hoist 🤣 I have to go to work tomorrow and finish it up. Dropped the scope down #1, can watch the coolant just trickle into the cylinder.

I am a Ford stock holder. You don’t see many Toyotas that are 4 years old falling apart.

Ha! Isn't that something, my 3.5 v6 (same year, SEL AWD w/ factory tow package) used to lose about of half of its coolant from the reservoir every 4 to 6 months. I would always have it topped off at oil changes. No evidence in the oil and no evidence of a leak anywhere execpt in the Summer while running the a/c you could smell, smell it lingering in the garage sometimes. That was always disregarded by service. I also had that loosey goosey feel in my left passenger side tire with a periodic clunking sound, I would have to be real careful in corners as I almost had it get away from me a few timesn even when going slow. The front end on that side would dip down and pull that bulky rearend into a fish tail. Thankfully I have driven cars many years ago with bad suspension components, you learn not to panic and maintain control. I always had that checked and was always told everything was tight up in there. It had a slight fluttery feel (alignment was always checked, always drove straight and held it there) to it in the steering wheel on a smooth highway in that front passenger and I always had to be real careful about fast moves and hard braking.. be extra, extra careful in the rain. But that tire always seemed to have premature wear (all tires would be at 8, that one at 7) on every rotation and I would have bring that wear issue up to service only to have that to disregarded, they would tell me the tech checked everything. I think a four banger is not enough for a mid suv that is roughly 4200 pounds. The salesman kept trying to push me in that direction in between all his incessant bragging about Ford switching over to electric vehicles. I kept telling him I wasn't there for an electric car or some puny, underpowered 4 banger. I later talked to a tech during a diagnostiv drive that told me about these ecoboosts.. what a nightmare.

Same issue.2018 -86000. Hope the Kseal holds ? Ford is off the list !!

Thanks FBM. Great video. Learned a lot 👍

I just bought a used 2016 Ford Edge with the 2.0 eco boost for my wife with 95000 miles . Check engine light came on gave me p0302 code so I replaced all spark plugs and the 2nd cylinders coil. Light went away. I called my buddy that is the head mechanic at Hagerstown ford in Maryland and he’s looking at it today I’m praying it’s not this but if it is it looks like I’m gonna be going rounds at the dealership tomorrow cause I’m not being stuck with a messed up vehicle after we traded a 2015 Taurus in with no issue just very high mileage.

I guess this is better than Ford building them right the first time.

Huge help rich! 🙏 thanks!

Eco boom here in the UK I'm fitting transit panther engines all the time they have cam belt issues. Keep safe buddy

2017 Ford Edge 2.0 ecoboost, base model. Bought used with 60k. Engine getting replaced at 69k by Ford. Cost $7300.00, now after 3 weeks they call and say the new engine has coolant in the oil. Old engine didn't have that, just coolant leaking into the cylinders. New long block, supposed to be updated version. Now they want me to pay $1350.00 to replace the turbo or it voids the new engine warranty. My question is how does the turbo cause coolant into the oil ?

FAR72 for the win on that plug! My buddy had that same training from Ford about loosing plugs and frozen stuff. TBH most Ford rusted bolts come out. Even the studs on old 4.0l explorers.

My 2018 fusion makes those popping noises when coming out of a turn.

I have a 2018 Ford Edge with about 50,000 miles. As of recently my coolant drains so quickly! I’ve seen/smelt white smoke coming out of my exhaust. I even had a temperature warning once and I’m scared to drive it at this point and out of my warranty. Wondering how much a repair like this costs? If I even have the same issue… Thank you for this educational video!

This is a very well put together video.

This happin t0 my 2017 ford edge ran out of warranty a year later im still driving it like this fuck ford

Nice video. Always good to know that there are still good techs out there. Your work area though. 😳 It's so tight in that shop. I would feel so clostrophobic having everything so right on top of me all day. Do you ever have issues opening your box drawers? Even the isle between the two rows seemed super narrow.

Another great video. What are you thoughts on anti-seize on the spark plugs? It seems manufacturers are all saying not to this these days. Thanks.

Are the replacement engines the Spanish blocks? Where are you located? I’d rather have you do mine. It’s a 2017 with 121,000 miles of great service. We like the Edge and I love the turbo motor. When it goes I’ll get you todo a transplant.

I think this is happening in my 2017 Ford Escape 1.5 EcoBoost. Since Ford is aware of this problem, what happens if I'm passed my warranty period? Am I on the hook for the block replacement or do I have grounds for negligence on the part of Ford? Thanks for your video

I have a 2017 forde edge titanium theres a sloshing sound in the dashboard ,coolant was low i fill it to the line and the next its low again ,do you know why?

Would putting liquid glass in engine block from (pharmacy)seal head gaskets before problems occur

Good post and a timely one. This isn’t the first vid of this issue I’ve seen on here. One poster reported that this problem is prevalent with engines assembled at the Cleveland Engine Plant not so much a problem with the engines assembled in Spain what say you? Why a long block? Wouldn’t a new head and head gasket do the fix? Thank you for your great vids.

Great video and explanation.

I just got the same problem today heart breaking g my edge is 207 titanium 170 miles what should I do now?

another great video, thanks and you be blessed

Pourus cylinder head. Gfs edge had that issue right at the edge of warranty. Just few hundred miles b4 it expired.. Dealer replaced it with a 0 mile engine.

Hi my name is Frank, I'm looking to buy a 2016 Ford Edge with a 2.0 l. Do they all have this issue or could I be lucky and get away with the water intrusion problem?

I was reading on a edge Facebook page the bad engines are from the Cleveland plant. The ones from Spain doesn’t have this issue. I don’t know if this is accurate. Anyhoo thanks for sharing. I enjoy your videos.

Good day sir. Really enjoy your videos. I was wondering if you have seen this issue on the 2.3 ecoboost in the ranger or mustang?

Im literally having this problem with my ford edge 2016 i was thinking of just replacing the coolant reservoir

Oh boy. Now I'm freak out. I have the same Ford edge, same year, 35,000 miles. So far it hasn't given me any issues. So my question is, what are the chances of you getting this problem in your vehicle? Is it about where the engine were built?

So ford doesn't let you tear down? What if it was just the head gasket

Just got 2022 2.0 Ford Edge , is there any thing that can prevent this cly leak , Thanks for great video 5,000 mile now

Why does the coolant rise when you remove the cap ?

White colored (almost powdered) spark plugs and the steam cleaned cylinders. = coolant intrusion.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, does this still happen on the newer 2.0 EcoBoost (2022) or has the problem been corrected by Ford?

Modern fords are high quality.

16 hours for longblock with transfer of parts sounds like a dream to me. I work for kia and the max we get with longblocks through our engine recalls is 7.3 hours on awd sorentos. Do you drop it down out of the car on a table/scissor lift?

Sorry, newb question here…. When the engine is replaced with the newer model engine, is a used engine put in as a replacement or a brand new engine with zero miles?