Dealing with Hair Algae in the SPS Show Tank

Dealing with Hair Algae in the SPS Show Tank - Episode 4

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We've made big progress in cleaning up the SPS show tank. Here's how we dealt with the hair algae and what we plan to do next.
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0:00 Introduction
1:21 Herbivores
3:22 Active Siphoning
5:16 Planting SPS
5:44 Water Clarity
8:27 Ozone
9:09 Fish Jail
10:32 Acid Bath Rocks
11:27 Conclusion and Credits

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@frankcava8073 3 жыл бұрын

I have a ton of respect for you guys admitting how even the best in the hobby run into these same issues and may often be the cause too.

@DGGuaglianone 7 ай бұрын

That rock work is insane.

@genealameda1163 3 жыл бұрын

Would enjoy seeing you guys do a video on the losses that you have with corals in general.

@stacywilliams1613 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Tidal Gardens, thank you for the idea of a scrapper/brush sython combination as they work a treat.

@Gro2healthheirlooms 3 жыл бұрын

Great videos!

@abuzdream 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir ✨ you are as informative as always and as great as always ✨✨✨✨✨

@homegrownreefer 3 жыл бұрын

i love flux rx! yeah you guys would need alot of it but home use is a miracle!

@chrismoniz5898 3 жыл бұрын

Hay Than just a tip I don't know if you know this but when I do my tank I clip that tube to a new filter sock or two and run my hose into my sump then when in done cleaning I just take out the durty sock 😅🙃it helps me with cleaning hope that can help

@SuperJeremy1985 3 жыл бұрын

Yes you should most definitely be using OZONE!!!!! I use it on not only my saltwater tanks but also my 25,000 gallon koi pond

@justinc3844 3 жыл бұрын

I gotta say I went with ozone for the first time a few months ago and I've had nothing but good results with no bad effects on corals or fish, and if your looking for ultimate clarity look no further then ozone. At first I was afraid also but I just took to chance and I don't regret it.

@allmightygreatone1048 3 жыл бұрын

I used two under the sink filters from menards connected with 5 micron 9" string filters 2$ each. The units were 35$. The 5 foot startronic uv at 25 gallon per hour water flow and 4 canisters of carbon chemi pure with resin and a 10% weekly water change did well. To test color fill white McDonalds cup of old tank water and compare to new mixed salt water under light to compare color.

@Mr_Tequila_Travels 3 жыл бұрын

Thans voice is both entertaining and soothing, he should try voice acting....

@bluereef9530 3 жыл бұрын

Your so right. I have snail spawning so much they all over the place.

@danchac01 3 жыл бұрын

well the tank looks much better now 👍👍

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Still a ways to go, but it's getting there

@edwardwells5864 3 жыл бұрын

Trochus snails are the only ones I do and luckily for me the shipping issue aint too much of a deal as my spawn regularly in my tanks supplying me with lots of new snails.

@HBReefBros 3 жыл бұрын

My trochus snails seem to spawn around every other month. I have never actually seen babies pop up in the tank though. I run UV at the Ich management flow rate, so that is probably the reason why.

@Fish_Ventura 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, when mine spawn, I see babies. Sump, glass all over.

@alexwise549 3 жыл бұрын

Than, I think the dirty water is more from the algea blooms associated with bare bottom tanks in the beginning stages. I use muriatic acid all the time to clean concrete. I used it to clean my reef saver rock after it had been in storage. As far as weight reduction, I couldn't tell any difference. It cleaned the rock pearly white though!!!

@pjshooter6 3 жыл бұрын

Instead of muratic acid, you can soak the rock for a long period in chlorine. Pool chlorinator or chlorine bleach. Its an oxidizer, which will desolve organics but not the rock. I soaked 2000lbs of rock for a month in pool chlorine. Then drained, rinsed. After that i refilled the vat with tap water. Added pond declorinator. Soaked it for 3 weeks in that. Tested every few days and got zero chlorine measurements. Once done i drained and filled with saltwater. Put a pump and let it sit for 8months, dosing bacteria weekly. Also dosed pods a few times.

@madrox4132 3 жыл бұрын

I've acid-bathed a few hundred pounds of dry rock. It reduces algae growth but doesn't stop it. I do 10 minutes in a 10% muriatic acid (so 3%HCL solution) though I've not tested other concentrations or durations.

@thinhmai3052 3 жыл бұрын

Just make sure you have pure baking powder when using muriatic acid, the baking powder will neutralize the acid and render the water/rocks safe to touch. I've used it for seriyu stones to turn the rocks a nice black color.

@mosswstrvll6 2 жыл бұрын

Everytime I see these videos and a tremendous outbreak of hair algae, no one ever talks about utilizing a Sea Hare (Dolabella type) to mow it down in just a couple days. During that time utilize the Tang Gang as well as CUC. Once the algea is eliminated either give the Sea Hare to another reefer having issues or to your local LFS for a credit.

@joshuastevens5557 2 жыл бұрын

How about finding the reason why the hair algae is coming into are tanks and get are parameters in check

@mosswstrvll6 2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuastevens5557 It's "our" for one. Second...it's not always about parameters being in check. It happens in the ocean, it can happen in your tank. There is absolutely nothing wrong with utilizing what nature has provided to rid the algae. At that same time, work on your 'parameters'. At least while doing so, you don't have to look at the nuisance algae.

@kjb-12345 3 жыл бұрын

Dry rock and bare bottom are a run combo to start with, I know from experience dude (said in a Chris Farley from Billy Madison voice)

@lunes-1 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you advise,change to t5 lighting recently and going a little bit for the same

@harkinsaquatics 3 жыл бұрын

Ozone is amazing, especially on a large skimmer

@harkinsaquatics 3 жыл бұрын

Don't do the acid, you should bleach it as well after but it's a cure pain and the acid is extremely dangerous.

@jasoncruz3506 3 жыл бұрын

Harkins is there any good video on ozone out there love to try it

@harkinsaquatics 3 жыл бұрын

@SnowMan to be honest it a skimmer it breaks down in to O2 before it can really do to much harm.

@mathiaswagner2968 3 жыл бұрын

Tidal gardens - “we’re worried about the potential risks of ozone since we don’t have experience with it, and want to see how less intense water treatments work first” ACI aquaculture - “So I got this stuff to strip meat off bones and I’m dripping it straight into the grow out tank for my pH because why not” Haha love the videos and the updates on the farm!! Keep it up

@adambahe9309 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely just had multiple trochus spawning events and my tank is littered with baby trochus snails. I'm that guy. I probably have 50-100 new baby snails right now. They're starting to get pretty big!

@philwu271 3 жыл бұрын

That orange tail sailfin tang! 😍 Also glad to see you decided not to use Orpheks.

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

We have Orpheks on other tanks

@philwu271 3 жыл бұрын

@@tidalgardens any issues with burnt out diodes or lenses?

@jluusaltwateraquarium8320 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you sir sharing fantastic video again....I have questions sir I have 120 gallon tank how many fish can put inside my tank... Now I have 5 fish inside my tank if I put any more fish inside do I have ich....Thanks again sir...

@dobermanguy9437 10 ай бұрын

I've been in the saltwater hobby since 1986 I haven't had this problem too many times but when I have my best advice is to manually pull that crap out it's a little bit of work but if you manually pull it out get yourself a little toothbrush it will process will be a lot quicker I don't just depend on snails to do this job pull it out manually along with water changes and usually it gets rid of the problem

@RedX1II 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's a FLOW problem!!! Definitely looks like it could use a lot more flow!!!

@rob379lqz 3 жыл бұрын

Cool. I wonder if works like rogaine if I spread some hair algae on my bald spot?

@lmtsmt847 3 жыл бұрын

New sub thanks for sharing goin through lots of changes in my 125

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel

@lmtsmt847 3 жыл бұрын

@@tidalgardens thank you hope to learn alot

@gleosblofar 3 жыл бұрын

I have two large commercial UV sterilizers for a 40 thousand gallon ponds use originally they're 240 volt they're not new they're pretty old but they've sat in storage pretty much the whole time never really used and I have new brand bulb. Problem is I'm in Northern California If you want them you can have them No charge thanks for a the advice..

@sheldonjessup 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see an update with your Orphek Amazonas tank! Pls!?

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Soon. It’s a ways off in line but it will get there

@steevareno2002 2 жыл бұрын

How long did it take for the algae to dieoff? I have the same problem with my dry rock but also have tangs and snails that won't touch it. Thx

@johnreefervermont4874 3 жыл бұрын

Does the fox face have a little timeout chair?. That worked really well for my son :)

@granjaciafarms 2 жыл бұрын

understand the dislike of socks, but a roller mat sounds like an obvious replacement :) oh, this is old. soz lol

@glenbuyer8738 3 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but would the tube on the symphony scraper be better on the top and the tube on the brush be better on the bottom. I don’t actually have something like that but I’m just thinking about which side the algae peels off when I’m scraping and it comes off the front not the back. I don’t know I’m just spit ballin, loved the vid!!!!!

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

I like to drag the blade so the hose works well there. As for the tooth brush... I could see both working well

@marinefalcon8996 3 жыл бұрын

Love your aquarium 👌.What lighting do you use for your reef aquarium?

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Mostly Ecotech but we have some T5 and some Orphek

@robertt8874 3 жыл бұрын

LOL, I use to handle muriatic acid for jewelry manufacturing and when the fumes would get on your clothes after you would go home and wash your clothes they would be filled with wholes when you take them out of the washer because it's water-activated.

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

oof. no thanks

@jaysreef5721 3 жыл бұрын

I get your point on the acid but same time folks can go to many fb groups and get info and try it. Personally I'd rather get that type of info from someone I trust and that I believe would stress the safety and make sure it was done properly. May feel like alot of weight on ya but im sure plenty vids out there that long as you stress safely and proper procedures you can rest easy any mistakes made couldn't be on you. Just my 2 cents lol

@maokinus 3 жыл бұрын

Nathan's tank has sand. Definitely a big factor in the water clarity issue. For your broken uv check to see if you can get new ballasts. They might be common and cheap. Ballasts don't last forever.

@fdigiaan 3 жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity, why do you say the sand is a big factor in the water clarity?

@maokinus 3 жыл бұрын

Tons of critters and bacteria live in the sand that help to break things down. Bare bottom is very tough in the first year till the rock matures.

@MrMsm333 3 жыл бұрын

@Tidal Gardens Than, I understood from your previous videos that you keep foxface in most of your frag/display tanks for algae control. How often did foxface go rogue and started eating your zoas, LPS? Just want to get a sense of how likely (in term of percentage) it is that foxface turns into coral eaters.

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Uncommon but it happens. Usually it happens when new corals are placed and less so when they have been in the tank with them for a long time.

@ricardocarneiro7797 3 жыл бұрын

My trochus spawn in the tank and within 4 months I went from having 10 to having 15

@donalddefeojr776 3 жыл бұрын

Hello ,if your not using filter socks,what do you do for mechanical filtration??

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing unless you count a protein skimmer as mechanical

@ladyday554 3 жыл бұрын

How long do you quarantine the snails?

@sanpietroprogettista9887 3 жыл бұрын

Than, thank you so much. If you had to pick just 3 herbivore fish, what would you pick?

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

I like foxfaces (problems and all), a chevron tang, and lately I have enjoyed having algae blennies.

@superman200021 2 жыл бұрын

I just found 4 baby Trochus snails in my tank was worried for a second on snails coming out of nowhere then realized what they where

@mrberlinmethod1492 3 жыл бұрын

In case you are struggling with clarity you can try dosing Calciumcarbonate (home made coral snow). Cheap and easy. I will say though that ozone is amazing when it comes to getting that floating fish feeling

@pdxreef546 3 жыл бұрын

LOL my 2nd generation of trochus snails were spawning 2 days ago

@adamjohnson4790 3 жыл бұрын

I have a farm (cattle, and chickens) and they too do not like to graze taller grasses, they prefer shorter blades.

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's like asparagus. Short stalks are delicious but once they get bigger, that's a tree.

@Gro2healthheirlooms 3 жыл бұрын

What about a Sea urchin?

@ReefingwithO 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why you didn’t just scrub with a toothbrush- because you don’t rush socks 🧦

@SekRanger 3 жыл бұрын

Acid bath/Bleach got me diatoms and dinos instead of algae issue. Believe me, dealing with algae is a lot easier.

@MicrobiusBlue 3 жыл бұрын

Trochus Trochus Everywhere....and not a one had bred Trochus Trochus Everywhere....despite being happy and fed

@neptunes_pot 3 жыл бұрын

This video doesnt helped me for my tank :-/ I have a very low nutrition tank (PO4

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Bryopsis is tough to eliminate because not too many things like to eat it. You could try a chemical treatment like fluconizole or vibrant, but those come with their own drawbacks. On a separate note regarding Micromussa, ours started doing very well when we fed them directly.

@neptunes_pot 3 жыл бұрын

@@tidalgardens Thanks a lot to answer my qustion. Seems to be a tough hobby sometimes.

@williamgoodman2037 3 жыл бұрын

My snails are multiplying like crazy which I know that's a good thing but wow

@dereks3207 3 жыл бұрын

ive also never had snails spawn in my tank. ever.

@marcelrodriguez2067 3 жыл бұрын

What would you do if you had bryopsis or bubble algae?

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Fox faces eat bubble algae, so that is not too great a concern. Bryopsis is a longer term problem. I try to remove as much of it as possible and eventually the herbivores can get it under control. Most don't like to eat it.

@Mr_Tequila_Travels 3 жыл бұрын

@@tidalgardens try an urchin, a fellow reefer was struggling with bryopsis and the urchin is eating it. Urchin is also knocking stuff over if it isn’t well glued, but that’s another story....

@gonefishing5536 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely better to try ozone it'll clear the water better then anything just run it off an apex so the apex can turn off the ozone if the orp goes above 420

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

I might play with one on a new system with very little stuff.

@cvin13 11 ай бұрын

Throwback comment but my trochus snails spawned recently and I thought of this video. Now I have 13 baby snails in my sump. Could it be your mechanical filtration is too good and removes all the eggs/larvae

@allmightygreatone1048 3 жыл бұрын

Will hydrogen peroxide work

@danieldiaz6075 3 жыл бұрын

Any bryopsis update?

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

This tank is now very clean.

@davef.566 2 жыл бұрын

Try hydrogen peroxide it's good stuff

@aior0s 3 жыл бұрын

LoL.. I just gave away 20 trochus to a fellow reefers. From my 40 breeders

@joefromnorwich 3 жыл бұрын

First comment?

@DavidE-tj4rc 3 жыл бұрын

Prison Rules!

@laurens6267 3 жыл бұрын

Your No3 and po4 are too high for snails to succesfully spawn.

@jennychurchill8953 3 жыл бұрын

A face to the voice!!

@MaxelWong 10 ай бұрын

Dont know why he was avoiding urchins or cowrie snails. They DELETED my hair algae bloom

@ballonman124 3 жыл бұрын

Trochus snails don’t truly reproduce in captivity. Colonista snails resemble baby trochus snails, but are actually a hitchhiker species.

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

That is very interesting. First I've heard of it.

@DailyDose2Inspire 3 жыл бұрын

I'll run my tank high in phosphates anyday than deal with dinos and cyano. Give me that ugly algae alll day..lol

@petert2041 3 жыл бұрын

Don't do a snail's job - Than

@tidalgardens 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you are just the best snail for the job

@rob379lqz 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry for my late reply... you’d think I was using snail mail. At 1:57 “...they don’t sh*t very well.” Then at 2:30 I appreciate your explanation.

@samc2649 3 жыл бұрын

Curious how a coral business couldn’t be bothered to replace filter socks. What is it, 30 minutes of work every 3 days?