Plus while he hasn't developed a lot of self-creation in the Suns true PG system, he certainly could on a team like the Pistons or the Blazers.

hahaha

Facts. Suns have a Ferrari but they treat him like a Moped. Game 7 vs Mavs he literally got one shot in the first quarter. Most people don't understand that his numbers were actually better with Ricky Rubio. Monty never runs anything for him. Dude can get his mid-range over anybody and all they do is make him set screens and dribble handoffs for Booker...SMH

@@PhoenixSunsNZ Well it's only to their detriment. If I'm him I'm not re-signing once my contract is up. I think Monty and CP3 helped make him a better defender and increased his IQ but running your offense through Booker will not win you a championship. Monty only played him 26 mpg during that series. But hey, it's their loss! LOL

@@a16studios Facts.

FACTS DFook and Cp3 jealous and don't want him to shine

*jokic has left the chat*

Not so much :-)

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The suns macth the offer he not going nowhere

wouldn't say a pipe dream. Detroit is probably one of three true destinations that Ayton might land. They have the cap space, have a tradable asset that Phoenix will like so they will not match, and facilitate at sign-and-trade with Detroit getting Ayton and Phoenix getting Jerami Grant. Not a lot of teams can offer that. I know Ayton has to choose Detroit, but it make sense for him to do so. i would say we have not seen the best from Ayton yet. I believe he offers more shooting upside than what he shown in Phoenix. Phoenix did not let him shoot 3s. he shot 34% from 3 and 74% from the FT line at Arizona. he shot 37% from 3 and 75% from the FT line last year. Him and Cade would be an amazing duo. Pair that with Ivey or Sharpe and now you have a trio you can build around.

@@kaysnow5567 Mathurin* . But I completely agree

@@Nolimittcmt Not a fan of Mathurin at 5. He seems to be a guy that in most drafts get selected in the 10-14 range. Would like someone that offers more juice off the dribble.

The perfect off-season involves signing Ayton. If we can get Murray at 5, that’d be best case scenario imo

I’d say with the grant trade, which was us taking less than what grant was worth in the trade so we could clear up cap to sign anyone we want to a max contract, the chances of us signing Ayden now went up 90 percent. The pistons wouldn’t have made that trade without some inside knowledge on who we can end up getting and signing to a max. Let’s hope I’m right and we sign him and we some how land Ivey in this draft and then we really rolling.

@@zogred1582 the Suns can still Match tho

Will the Suns match it or has the sun set in Phoenix?

Keep wishing he's staying valley Boys up

Haaaa syke DominAyton PHOENIX let’s run it back

Trade Nikola vuch and Coby white for Ayton!? #BullsFan

Ayton is a RFA this off-season and if he does ants to go to Chicago we definitely can give him a max deal with Zach and give the suns something in return by trading Vucevic, Coby and 2022 18th overall pick or 2023 Portland Lottery protected pick

my guy!!

Thank you!!!! Needed to be said I’m a huge suns fan as well. Centres take time, he’s already elite and only gonna get better. He’s a number 1 pick for a reason.

@The Golden Warriors did you see what Bagley was doing with Cade last season? 🤣 either way he wouldn't be a starter he'd be the backup center

He's a valley boy sorry pacer fan

Facts. Chris Paul only likes his bigs to do what you said. Chandler, Capela, Jordan, Adams all bigs who can't shoot and only good for lobs. Ayton's shooting touch is crazy and it's getting wasted.

@@PhoenixSunsNZ Ayton has always played better without CP3 and the numbers back it up. He's more efficient with CP3 but that is also due to his personal growth in the pick and roll.

I'd be so happy if we can pull off a Sign and trade for ayton only giving up Capela.

@@MattyOkay That would be perfect. If only he wasn't seeking a max.

Your comment is on the verge of not aging well! 🤣🤣

@@Doyd317 I’m glad bro😂 We got Murray we can just keep Clint now

Fingers crossed 💯

Facts

big fax

or they just may be making room for him

Trae Young ❄️

0% chance

There's nobody on the pacers roster that the suns would want

@Kings Will Soon Rise not a kings fan tryna talk shit about booker foh.

@The Golden Warriors shit happens

@The Golden Warriors top 5 winning percentage in league history. Just because they haven't won a ring, doesn't mean they're unsuccessful. You new breed of nba fans are honestly embarrassing

@The Golden Warriors thats life man. Only 1 team can win a season

Exactly.

Hell no. Look at these highlights, 90% was created by his playmakers (Cp3 - btw one of the greatest playmakers). If u watch suns games u know he is SOFT, he cannot dominate like an Embiid or a dominant center. If u give him the ball and tell him to generate the offense then what? If he does leave PHX, he will have a similar role to HOU Howard. No way he’s averaging 23-25 PPG. For reference, KAT averages 24 PPG.. and Ayton is no where near his skill set.. give Ayton keys to offense without a Cp3 type player then see what happens.. Sure, he CAN average 20/10, but that would be in a losing team like Detroit and him as the 1 or 2 option. That is not a max player like Doncic, Trae in his draft class. Oh and I didn’t even mention his attitude/motor problems.

@@vannq7785 you compared him to 2 centers: Joel, an MVP candidate, and KAT who underachieved for years as a number 1 option.

@@karimw.9954 Well u want a max contract center like Ayton? Myles Turner, Clint Capela, aren’t max players. Ayton is in that tier. He shouldn’t get paid like embiid Jokic Gobert kat etc

@@vannq7785 I'm not advocating for Deandre getting the max but why is KAT a max player?

Looks like it

DA is better without CP3

They can't afford him lmao

Good Question!!!! Most assists CP3 averaged in 14 years, Not the most point DA's averaged in his 4 year career. avg more with Rubio and missed the playoffs by 1 game after missing 25 games. 8-0 in the bubble.

We can just sign him and give the suns absolutely nothing. We know damn well they wont match it lmao

For woods & gordon

Yesssiiirrr

He posts 12fga and gets as many touches as Kelly Olynyk. The Suns do not feature him in their offense.

Why Kelly Olynyk tho? Lmaoo

The Suns handled his contract situation horribly. If I was in his shoes, I'd be pissed as well

Never compare any player to Ben Simmons. Ayton actually played for his team all season long and was never scared to shoot the damn ball when he did get touches. What Simmons did is unprecedented and Ayton’s situation is nothing like that

@@seeredd3479 it's crazy to think he and Kelly Olynyk posted the same amount of touches. Ivica Zubac wasn't too far behind

You have to give up Poole, Tuscano, Bleicia, 2 picks. And It’s a deal

You expected a lot from a guy who gets the 5th most touches on his team.

haha. I wrote earlier Dont like the way he’s used in phoenix. don’t get his touches,, but yea, lol he isn’t max. Nba is weird nowadays

Kidd knew cp wouldn't pass the ball to Ayton so he doubled booker, Ayton was right can't pass the ball to myself...coach got schooled

I love Horford, but that's facts! They giving 83 million to 3 players!! Al Horford and CP3 basically got the same contract. If you dont win now... your ASSED OUT!

He’s a fucking center

It'll be funny as hell when he joins a new team and shows what he's truly made of. Not some 3rd option on a shit team like the Suns. Him with Trae, Luka or Cade would solidify him as a 22/10 guy.

@@fromisgunner wrong. He is the reason Devin Booker & Chris Paul couldn’t do anything offensively. When your big man is a giant P-word, he is simply a life size cardboard cutout, in a Deandre Ayton jersey, who doesn’t drive, crash the backboards, run down the floor, run back to defense, and puts the pressure on two smaller sized NBA players who can get away with such, due to having such a tall big man. Except when the big man isn’t performing and is OOZING sweat of intimidation and hesitant.. then it ripples back to the two smaller sized NBA players in Booker and Paul, and then they get all the heat and negative stats, due to Deandre Ayton under performing time and time and time again in big games. He can’t do it. He’s too nice & makes sure the lane is open before he goes to the basket for ANYTHING. He’s too lazy to run the court and dunk over people. He’s too intimidated by people & gets shoved around and driven on guaranteed when playing sharp shoulder/elbow driving players like Giannas & Luca.. etc. End of story. He looks decent when he has an open lane thanks to the double teams and attention that Booker or Paul force the defenses eyes & balance, to hesitate which opens up a football field sized lane for him to dunk or alley oop. (thanks to their actual hard work & skill setting up an opportunity to pass the ball to Ayton for an easy & guaranteed basket). Notice how he never ever ever ever drives, goes over the top of anyone, never crashed the glass for rebounds, never runs back to play defense… all he does is put his arms up for a pass when he feels safe and then they try to get the ball to him if they see they’re given an easy window for him. Never does he do any cool trick shots, passes, blocks, defense, dunks, steals, nor does he get in anyones face or force them to fear him. He’s a nice guy. And nice guys finish last in competitive physical sports like football and basketball. It is what is it. He’s maxed out all he has to offer. And that’s who he will forever be. End of story.

@@catchafraudtheorygod funny how all the shit talking just started this year. Last year he was absolutely adored by your fanbase. Don't you think it's also the owners fault his morale went to shits? #1 pick being demoted as a 3rd option, not developing his already decent offensive game and being forced to be a 2way player. He simply wasn't the right fit in that system. I'd be pissed if I were in his shoes

@@fromisgunner “fanbase”..?? So you think because of something you read on a twitter of someone you follow… that the entire “FANBASE” adored him? Wrong again, buddy. For 2 years the legit fanbase has been roasting and wanting him to be more aggressive and show it this year to get a max contract. He failed AGAIN. The fanbase who you don’t see on the pathetic social media apps you get your news from such as Insta, Snap, and Twitter… (I bet you have all 3 and call yourself a man & want to debate me on anything in life, let alone sports..hahahahahhsha). You just proved your entire theory is totally wrong and based off some imaginary propaganda you heard about the suns fanbase. Okay so whatever you heard and thought, means it’s the “ENTIRE FANBASE..”…??? No. Wrong again. Failed again. Wrong wrong wrong, fail fail fail. You and Ayton must be brothers.

Dude averaged 17 points on over 60 percent efficiency while taking a decent chunk of his shots from midrange area. Also being a top 10 defensive center in the entire league he absolutely can be the 2nd star

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