Yeah ll cool j

i think Jay is overated -js

Thank u man Jay z still the goat tho Kendrick the only close one

That's what they do when you own the industry structure, anybody that's deep deep into rap won't consider Jay Z the greatest, Jay z is just a commercial success that's all, everybody is not a good businessman

I think Hova is well rated because you barely see him in anyones Top 5 list. Just because Ebro is utterly delusional about Jay Z doesn't mean it's a popular consensus.

Nas’ classics - Illmatic, IWW, Stillmatic Hov’s classics - RD, BP, The Black Album Stop overusing the word “classic” there is a difference between a good album and a classic.

@@user-oq3in5pz3d finally someone gets it. That's why the word "classic" has lost so much meaning. People slap that word on an album before it even releases. And just because you like an album doesn't mean it's a classic

Simple as that, thanks. That's the God MC. PS. He was on Columbia for 15 years ( a label that's unfriendly to Hip Hop) Now how about that?

@@kroniqcombo7273 I agree. Glad we share the same opinion.

Nas classics "illmatic, gods son, stillmatic and it was written". How is gods son not a classic? It had some of the most important songs in hip hop "made u look, i can, one more dance, book of rhymes, heaven, last real niggaz alive" . Y'all tripping

Reasonable doubt, Hardknock life, Blueprint 1, Black Album, Dynasty album, American Gangsta, Blueprint 3, 444, watch the trone, all classics

Gods Son, I am are not classics. It was written was close though. Hard Knock Life/Dynnasty/BP3/WTT weren’t classics either.

@@terell2k12 your opinion, if I can put a album on and play it straight through and that albums also have hits and classic tracks, that album is a classic, you can hear songs of all those Hov albums I mentioned today and ten years for now, those album has and will stand the test of time , in my opinion those are classics

Illmatic , it was written and Stillmatic are classics by him . Hov got RD , volume 2 , blueprint and black album

This isnt dickriding bro 😂🤦‍♀️ they are clearly giving stats on way Jay is better. Stat was nobody matches up not even Nas. Jay has aged wayyy better than Nas in music

I actually think the opposite. Nas's music has AGED way better than Hov's. Go back and listen to untitled and u can drop that album today. Nas is the GOAT but hov is still top 4 to me.

They were playing all Jay songs when Ether came out and destroyed him. Hot 97 is paid to push propaganda for Jay because he's down with Lyor Cohen.

jay isnt the best rapper by far, but hes the greatest

@@willsmooth1355 man, stop Nas body of work is not touching Hov’s, Nas got too many flops

Facts!

For REAL.

How is there even still a debate? Literally no one compares to any part of the résumé.

Lmfaoooo why

i expect him to get dementia and start punching skinny jean rappers and making albums about it. whole albums of diss songs from Grand Daddy Hov, i cant wait.

😂

He's up there. He's more than just a rapper though he's like the Prince in the rap game.. very versatile.

@@davidtaliai996 I mean, dude's literally called that. I still have him as a top 5 straight rapper. In my opinion, he is the best overall artist, in hip hop specifically. His range of ability has never really been matched by one man on the same level. IMO. He's done some great producing, had his own style(s), plays multiple instruments better than your average player, and the dude fuckin played Jimi Hendrix. A one of a kind artist, imo. And he's not even in my Number 1 spot, lol.

David Taliai Yup Andre 3000 is not just a rapper he is art in its true form.

Underrated comment

He is NOT EXTRA...he is real!

He overrated

@@kendallforeman5692 heck no

growing up on the west we didn't really rock with him like that... but his influence over the past decade plus is undeniable.

But he’s not underrated. So many people think he’s one of the greats. However, there is no comparison between Wayne and Jay as men, in business, or in hip hop. I’m not certain about things done in the community by Wayne, but I bet he may come through for his N.O. People… I’d hope.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 if you like drug addict music I suppose

No Wayne

Facts

#hov is in his prime weather we want to believe it or not. he's a rap GOD

Jadakiss the best hands down

This error is trash, that's why he can shine at this age! Hip hop is being help down by the old school rappers and battle rappers period!

Waynes whole style has changed to resemble a NY rapper. FACTS.

Wayne, One of the worst rappers of all time and a big part of why hip hop is so bad now.

@@tdjones7524 facts.... Most of the south started killing hip hop... The dope ones, Scarface, goodie mob, outkast, held it down for that region....

@Sunset Vest facts.... Ppl just ignore that.

Wayne by a longshot

I WOULDN'T🤔🤔 K-DOT will murder JAY-Z eazilly bruuuuuh😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

By the way, the average person does believe he’s the greatest! You will never find another rapper like him in your life time. Y’all really think being a great artist is easy. It clearly shows that most people don’t have a talent so it’s hard to see it in others. You don’t have to listen to an artist in order to see their greatness. Smdh!

@@diceman1011 you mean the average people in NYC right? People from other States may not agree and they will think for Eminem

Jason Askins Out of all people you would bring up an artist that talks about killing his family members, right? He’s it not as great as you think he is. And by the way, Em is not even close. NYC doesn’t have anything to do with that. Just take a good look at Jays greatest of over 20 years. Em has one great album and one good one...go get a life fam!

D_O 797 sweety I say this in all respect and humbleness sit down.. nas bodies jay z and Tupac.. I mean lets be honest.. that’s Tupac sis.. I’m over the New York bias.. especially when it’s being shoved down our throats..

Pac ain’t no best of all time he is one of the goats andhe had his time bro. But there are so many rappers with more accolades and accomplishments or were better stylistically. But yes I’m his short peak he with death row he wielded tremendous influence.

@@louisb5766 it's 2Pac then you can find who #1 is after you put him at the top of the list. He is above the list he is a god even Nas said that

@@DeadlyAllianceTV that’s simply one gods opinion, where can I find that video? That sounds dope.

@@louisb5766 Nas was on 106 and Park and he said that on BET. You can search that on KZfaq. I'm not really about to listen to somebody argue against that. Especially if you aren't a damn good rapper yourself.

I didn’t find video, and I saw a couple of videos, questioning your entire premise to its core, and yea I would rely on ad hominem attacks instead of attacking the point that he wasn’t hear long enough when we’re talking about influence, or his clear lack of lyricism and flow when we’re talking about absolute top.

Black thought is technically superior than all rappers except em, rakim, nas & twista im sure im leaving out some other great technicians...but ah

bles05 Listen to streams of thought if you haven't.

@Jermaine Nixon you don't know about hip hop. Let the ones who know debate

Jermaine Nixon Thought is so technical with his bars, so when finding a "famous" bar you'd be spoiled for choice.

I'll give you black thought as a candidate but Nas gets drowned out by other artists. Just my opinion

Surprising cause Jail was out when you dropped this.

Well they are has beens together

It's never gonna happen. Jay just used him.

@@Sealdrop - you almost gotta be an "east coaster" to even understand what dope is...your probably a west coaster who thinks 2 Pac is the best with his ABC raps...lol

Good comment. Best alive I'd say.

Good comment. Best alive I'd say.

@@100timessquare faxx

Illmatic The rapper

R.I.P Big L

Smh noooooo i love all those rappers but they talking about rap influence entrepreneurship family record sells business mind the growth of other upcoming rappers all that not just rap jay my fav m.c but i give big l and them only up there with him in rapping

@@OP-er9tm yes eminem watch this from start to finish kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9Jjjc2EncDWemg.html

I can't say there's a single Goat. Being from Houston I can easily put K-rino in there too but there's so many different rap Artists and styles to see one guy as the Best.

@@OP-er9tm ik right

@sf2explus they did and they have

sf2explus DR DRE GREATER THAN JAY Z

@sf2explus they did two songs together. Black Republicans and Success.

Mr ish T No Shot Nas or Em are better than Jay

Ali Shabazz WTF, that’s the silliest comparison I’ve ever heard

Busta was too animated at the mid point of his career, that’s why Ludacris isn’t given credit for his superb lyricism either

yeah, that is just how bullshit this is lol. whoever takes this seriously has a fucking light mental disability

I still got 'LL COOL J,RAKIM,BIG DADDY KANE AND A FEW MORE AHEAD OF EM...he sold a lot of records yes but I never could relate to 90% of his albums

True

Jay is a legend but Tech is greater.

@Rasuke11 those bullshit albums are still better than most artist albums though, Magna Carta Holy Grail, Blueprint 3, and maybe Kingdom Come but still those albums are better than most of the trash coming out

Nerdbama Rich Lil Wayne is the real GOAT!! I dare anyone to debate me!!

Dope album. They forget Streets Disciple too!

Because thats a collab album that dont count

Same way nobody talking about watch the throne

One of Nas greatest album....#classic

That "Best of both world" with R. Kelly was a super dope album.

Arabika explain to me how?

@@landonthewolf8838 you tell me why not

@Gary Nintendo Switch Lite Em is the greatest for sure if you can't relate to his music it dosen't mean his not the greatest man his flow his rhyme patterns his story telling ,world play ,impact on music and many more he is best at all of that and i know why ya'll say that cause he's not black and you can't relate to his music but greatness is more than that

Michelle Coleman bro Eminem is not better than jay z💀

Just because em was better in the same song doesn’t mean he is better overall

@@elius.o8890 yes he is search up eminem not alike ryhme scheme and watch the whole damn video not just the start. I dare you

Sam Hyde bro rhyming a whole bunch of words isn’t the only thing that makes a good rapper🤦🏾‍♂️the MUSIC also has to be good, jay z discography is better and he makes better music.

@@elius.o8890 actually it is rap💀 its is rap and poetry everything gotta do with rhyme vocab and flow

On Fire NAS IS THE BIGGEST STORY TELLER

Whomp

Lol even big mouth Ebro admitted that Nas was the name he was expecting to hear. Got disappointed when he said what happened after ether...well street disciple was a great album, untitled was another great album😠😠

@@goat8434 yeah, I expected more from Ebro and Rosenberg here cuz I know they're legit hip hop heads even if I don't agree with them all the time. They were saying Nas doesn't have 3 classic albums? That's nuts. He has AT LEAST 3. Illmatic, It Was Written and Stillmatic shouldn't really be a debate as classics. God's Son and Lost Tapes are in the conversation. Then he has really underrated works like Untitled and Street's Disciple that IMO are borderline classics when you really look at the content he was dealing with, both those albums are a decade ahead of their time.

@@Israel-nb7ip Bro I think these fools take what Jay Z said in takeover as a fact - that Nas only has one hot album. IT WAS WRITTEN WAS a classic and some debate that it was better than Illmatic. They are people who even say Stillmatic is better than Illmatic. While I don't want to partake in such an argument, it just shows you that those are definite Nas classics. The freestyle off Stillmatic beats every song Jigga has ever made. I love that freestyle - it was a classic ..." Blood of a slave , heart of a king" phew.

SEP7EMBER10 Pac the goat

He overrated, lil xan be the realest

@JimmY V T.V. that's an interesting list

FOH.....u Stoopid. Get you baby bottle in ya mouf.

Lets be real if Tupac and Biggie were still alive they would be irrelevant now. Their 'greatness' lies in the fact that they were killed. If that never happened they would have died out like every other rapper from that era. Jay Z the only one who is still relevant so yeah hes the goat.

Woke up this morning. Got yourself a gun! -NAS

Him Pac Big Rakim Eminem Ghostface killah Meth and Red Krs one Ice cube

@j mitch all them bars & flows Jay stole say otherwise.

@j mitch STFU 🤣😂😂

@j mitch he definitely is cut it out

I would say they are easily top 2.

@Bhargav Chavda they're top 2 when it comes to making timeless, quality hip-hop. They were able to adapt into the new era better than most rappers of their era and when it comes to having the complete package of beats, rhymes, flow, etc. and I can't think of many who could compete when you talk about their overall volumes of work. You can argue about who is more technical and uses more metaphors, but in the grand scheme of things, those two are meaningless when talking about the greatest overall.

Nas and Lupe Fiasco

Nas doesn’t have enough work to be better than Jay-Z

Illmatic, God's Son, Stillmatic, It was Written is all Classics. Lost tapes was the sleeper album, life is good is very dope. Nasir is very dope as well. Lyrically, Jay not seeing Nas, Lupe, or Black thought. B/c he is so successful with business ventures, his impact, and his wife he is elevated. He is definitely in my top 10 and Is on of the Greatest, but not better than those guys.

Those are criteria for best rapper. The best and the greatest aren't necessarily the same.

Exactly

You could find a guy on sound cloud with 12 followers with great lyrical content, metaphors and fucking quadruple entendres but that doesn’t make them the greatest rapper stoopid

Lyrically I would say big L is one of the best, he didn’t have any major impact on hip hop or even make much money but purely lyrically he is a GOAT

@@Victor-cr3xi no LL?

@Between The Lines not even close

No man it’s a legendary album but not the greatest

@@BTL414 no likes huh

Illmatic is cool but I heard it so much ugh

I wish pepe leave EM out if this let him stay with his well you know

@@lindalackey5011 people? Racist pos

That’s precisely the point of a debate

SA AKA BOBBY MANSA straight click bait

@@iphone3gsdivine kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pN5-qs2dmtzSaI0.html

He in that mix Nas should be fifth he didn't have as much commercial success like the others did

Jason Phillips ,

All those rappers would trade their skills for his money

KRIS PARKER RAKIM YAH

None of these rappers have been as impactful or have reached the level of success Jay has.

Ryan Sikhira the best , most honest comment ever. There isn’t any rapper that can even compare!!!!

He literally said best rapper, the nigga is overrated garbage

That question alone can only insinuate that Hov is overall the greatest..Now let's add the 1st "Rap Billionaire" to his old resume.

He from the South, no respect from most artist from up top

​@@derrickcooper4856 yeah they don't like south rappers. Scarface wasn't even in their top 15

Wayne took over the whole 2000s.

As far as millenials there's no question his influence but you can't forget that Wayne got hot around the same time TI, Ludacris, Jeezy and Rick Ross were coming up. Pusha T was beginning to start his solo career around the same time too.

FACTZ AND WAYNE BE SAYIN' SUM CHITT THAT'LL HAVE U SAY "HOLD UP BRUUUUUH, REWIND THAT... WHAT HE JUST SAY???? U KNOOOOOOW WHAT I'M SAYIN' YOOO!!

Clown. Wayne over Nas. Respect to nas but naww.

Killah V you must be young making that statement. Do me a favor and study nas line by line

Adam A. True, nas had 3 great album even though I like all but I'm going go what the charts is saying. A lot of his album was over looked because he didn't have quote-quote regular Club bangers like I'm more of a fan of lyrics and poetry but his work is very respect it and acknowledge throughout the world

Nobody listens to Nas in 2018, Jay is on another level.

@Adam A. That's a fan lie lol n you know it. Nas got 2 really dope albums just like Jay. Nas was the only rapper with 2 5 Mic albums.

Facemobb. The most vivid storyteller.

Honestly Cube was just hot for a good 5 years after that it was just give away songs. That's why he went into movies.

Spot on

Great rapper as well

Yep

Yep exactly

Redman is one of the greatest to me

Carl Daniels I wear a white t shirt white sneakers and hat somn cool on my wrist a nice peice to match jumpi into somn foreign like the peice I snatch and I’m not bragging homie I’m just brad 💪🏻

fleshnbone187 GIVE ME FACE ALL DAY OVER JAY PLAYER 💪💪

Face mobbbb

Keith Vargad I SALUTE THAT STATEMENT PLAYER 💪💪GIVE ME FACE 'DEEPLY ROOTED'😲😲😲

Leldon Rodgers I SALUTE THAT STATEMENT PLAYER 👊👊👊I'M BUMPING THAT FACE RIGHT NOW IN MY 2017 TAHOE BLACK ON BLACK 😲😲💪

How do people not pay attention to this?! Cubes a true G. And since they used B for how hov is the greatest. I didn't see hov in the soldier video....tho i saw cube..who said not one fkn word. No need.

FACTS but still Jay-Zs word play is impeccable..difficulty level at 1000 .. complex and will have you like WOAH in mid bar. IJS...i from the west coast and I'm 43... I love CUBE

but Ice Cube was a part of the group so that makes it different

Definitive1 that's only because Cube was most likely the best writer from NWA I mean he wrote Boyz in the hood I still play that song regularly and only Ez and Jerry had the problem with cube not rest of the group and Dre and D.O.C was getting ready to go as well so it won't that hard for Cube to dismantle them The D.O.C. and Ren were dope writers the chronic album the D.O.C. wrote for Dre is a classic it was basically Ren vs Cube I like Ren think he is dope but in reality he was Eazys bitch

Nobody cares about a cube song in 2019 but the world still stops when jayz drop a song

he is one of the best lyricists and naybe the best

People sleep on Jay this man changed hip hop he's a living legend even Em said jay is top 2 on till i Collapse

Jay not even top 20 from NY

Word up

Jay Z, one of the most respected, best selling, most prolific, most lyrical, and richest rapper of all time... Is underrated? Please explain to me how lol

Eminem is far more successful than Jay Z numberwise too.

Eminem and PAC have sold more records nas is a much better lyrisict and is pretty close to jay z

@@Aviishek. what is Eminem songs compared to jay z songs.... bru. Jay z songs are way betterrr

@@777abade That's your opinion and I can't argue with someone's taste. And I never said Em had better songs than Jay. That's subjective. I just said Em is way more successful than Jay which is a fact.

@@Aviishek. you were right Em does have way better songs than Jay Z that’s also a fact record sells prove that👊🏽🐐🎯💯

I'll take him over Jay anyday

Let's not forget Andre 3000, Kendrick, J Cole

@@aprilbrown7333 They not better and I love all of them.

Ice cube is aight. Jay Z just makes better albums

cant mention ice cube cause he from a different generation. like ice cube inspired jay z u fimme?

God mc? Don't even go there

cringe

@@RideWithDeath333 So who is?

this idiot doesn't know gangsta rap and real hip hop, jay-z is my son

@bgt125 cringe, with his song 'waiting 4 the world 2 end?

Only Nas fans care about them KD albums bro thats just the truth the rest of the world dont. By the way when i say Nas fans i mean the real ones not the Jay haters pretending to be Nas fans

@@VinceBond-ky2zt Not so sure if the rest of the world doesn't care. Nas is still super popular in europe. And even if nobody cares, that doesn't change the quality of the album run.

Chris Brown Nas is greater.

For real nas is better killed him on Ether.....all jay-z is is a really fucking good business man

Chris Brown Facts

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DUB2point0 so before he was huge in business he was huge in being a rapper and he has more classic platinum albums than nas. If nas was as great every album would’ve sold as such. If nas drops an album today it will not get played like a great artist should.

ThatheizMinnis hell yea ..

I take illmatic it was written and stillmatic over everything Jay done

Exactly Smoking, You're the man, One Mic, The flyest, My country, Poison and Every Ghetto etc... 🔥

Illmatic Stillmatic it was written life is good untitled

Thats the best album for me.

MeeChi King stillmatic

God's Son, and Lost Tapes

Yea they was trippin on that one NAS definitely has 3

Nas had a lotta bad beats I think.... I tried to listen 👂 but I can’t retain any substance from it because the beats make it lag

#stillmatic, #hiphopisdead were also classics #gtfoh

J. Cole

@imahelpfulperson K-Rino been at it since 84, he still going 🤷🏾♂️

@imahelpfulperson Emz been around 20 yrs still rockin.Jay z sucks

Don't forget Locksmith.King Los.Futuristics got some dope lyrics 2

@imahelpfulperson Fair enough, Black Thought would like to say hi tho

Best comment so far

Kool g rap and big daddy kane also but jay is better than pac and biggie

Deniz Aksoy no way he is better than Biggie... not one of his albums can mess with any Biggie album.

Nas. Rakim and KRS-1 are overrated when talking about the greatest.

Facts

Lol

Prime Eminem was a monster, dropped 3 classics back to back

@@elory9576 eminem is corny af

@@elory9576 Em doesnt have a classic album

Nerdbama Rich The truth

@@soundwave6998 real talk fam...

Umm....people always fronted. That wasn't foresight. He was speaking to what was happening at that time. Mind you, I like that record and I actually think In My Lifetime Vol.1 is underrated but that record has nothing to do with the future.

@@lifestraight looks like my comment went straight over your head.. he was talking about the rapper ma$e if you want to be specific/technical in that particular song but what I meant is his music was so ahead of its time that even what he was saying back then is relevant to what's going on now especially with social media..so umm yea.. hope that clarifies everything for you..

He's our current Kennedys, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Morgan-like tycoon. Illegal money cleaned up into a respectable family. #familyfued

Are you serious?

Jay is incomparable, his mastery of flow, lyrics and business, makes him ahead of everyone.

Marshall

@Rasuke11 facts forgot about that.

Straight facts !

Lol

2pac

DMX

Nasir

Nas is hands down the BEST! But there's a whole list of rappers better then Jay-z

Eminem ain't nowhere compared to HOV....STOP‼

@@kingb3nz550 Ohhhh Renegaaaaaaaaade👀

@@Aviishek. Why do people keep bringing up renegade? 💀 the song came out nearly 2 decades ago... get over it Eminem’s discography is trash compared to Jay’s

@@Mal-mt1lf Renegadeeeeee!!!!!!👊🏽🐐🔥🔥🔥

Eminem is a shitty musician based off of his past decade of work but a great lyricist. However rap is more than lyricism, entendres and punchlines.

He the best as far as reign,abd revalancy goes

@@dreadxplayzs7849 dude i don't like pac but people from around the world know him. Can't say the same about jay🤷 and no the world isn't just america🤦

@@bonafidehater692 yeah but pac isn’t that relevant because of his music. He is famous for the person he was. Almost everybody knows pac but most of them don’t even listen to his songs.

BIG FACTS!!!

Too much jay z bias in da media...Nas don't need da limelight his work does da talking......Jayz become woke nearly 50 years old....4.44 was inspired by Life is Good.....

and now more people hear that message because the rapper with more reach, more weight in the game has started talking about it. Jay-z didn't become bigger because people just decided to say "hey lets just like this guy", no, his body of work speaks for itself

HW 22 What’s your definition of great or greatest?

Is she black girl or shorty owe you for ice???

NIQUEY MONTANA bowwow

Way b4 17

Rakim recorded Paid In Full when he was 17.

Wayne, T.I.,LL need I say more?

NIQUEY MONTANA Earl Sweatshirt

They always say Wayne when that nigga be high off dem meds all the time 🤦🏽‍♂️

Pac would have shook the world up

But he didn’t .

VolksBIMA yeah he did. Over in Africa they got a tupac religion they worship dude. 2pac said he couldn't change the world but spark the brain that will. Every rapper since then been tryna do what he did. Nobody has since or will. He set the bar that High.

patti lab true pac is who people think about when it comes to rap him or biggie

Explain how he would have ended his contract with death row. Or are you saying that while he was with death row under Suge he will be billionaire?

Album was trash just like alot of his albums. Reasonable doubt and the black album was his best only cause shawn wallace stole it from b.i.g

On mother's that album was low-key classic

yeah that album deeply affectd me I felt like I was him when listening to it.. american dreamin roc boyys and success are calssics. what do I think of sucsess it sucks too much stress..how many times can I go to mr chows, taos, nobu. hold up let me move my bowels..he doesn't have a better album in my opinion. I put it at number 1. im from London, England but everythiung resonates with me every word and reference

Man that Album was basic as fu#&. Reasonable Doubt, Blue Print, Black Album are classics, the rest had 2 tracks at best and very overrated.

Strawhats08 Album wasn’t trash at all stop it jay-z hater

Alicia • I SALUTE THAT STATEMENT 🏆🏆🏆When u said FACE U WON👊

Carl Daniels real recognize real 💯

None of them have had a hit in years🤣🤣🤣 next!!!

Terek Williams U MUST not no who SCARFACE IS 🤔

Terek Williams clearly you are not educated in the hip hop area clown! Also where is Jays last hit? Also wtf does this have to do with last hits anyways?! FOH !

Snoop is trash

That's a TRASH list. LL with the longevity? 😂😂😂 dude hasn't rapped in over a decade

Chandler Scaringia Nas worships Pac.

Show u Right

Your euro-spelling cancels out any heat your comment may have created. Nice try, Eh.

Hey man far out

Nas IS the greatest

He’s not better than Jay-Z though