Sorry for the quality my camera setting reset after a update

I just realised I actually brought my old lxr 125 from you guys.... the showroom looked exactly like that 🤣

You mentioning about the quality of early Chinese imports to the UK reminded me of the Jialing models of 30-ish years ago. Rough was not the word for them, in some instances it looked like the moulding 'flash' remaining on the cylinder barrels had been removed via a hammer, frightful quality control.

I have a 6 year old Lifan Cross 200cc. Never had a issue except for front bearings and rings just once and early on. But nothing else. Runs without problems. Good maintenance though key.

What would you suggest for a 200-250cc bike that could go on a round the world trip? Something adventure style that would take luggage? Most bikes in South America are small Chinese bikes and I’d stand a better chance of sourcing spare parts if I were on a China bike.

Some of the more modern china bikes are better than they were, but they still have a ways to go yet. My bro bought a zontes mantis 125 new, and I was suprised by how much better the frame welds were and to be fair the engine was a good little runner. But the plastics were still fragile and would crack very easy, and the fuel injectors were terrible and that left him stranded on the side of the road on several occasions. This bike also made every warranty service. when got the bike back he was told the injectors were sorted and she was running fine - on the way home, she packed in again. This happened more than once. My bro had no problems for the first 2000 miles, but after that she continuously broke down and always due to the throttle body, sensors and fuel injectors. The bike was returned to the manufacturer for a full refund. Like I said though they are getting better, and the rest of the bike held up very well - frame, shocks, forks engine, tyres, wheels all held up.

I'm looking at buying a Benda LFC700 cruiser when they become available in the UK, the estimated price is around £6.5k on the road. The engine is an inline four cylinder of 680cc, it is based on a Honda CBR650. The Benda's motor produced 97.2 hp and 72 N/m of torque, the rear tyre is a huge 310 mm wide. Top speed is around 125 mph / 200 kph.

I have owned 5 motorcycles. Two were Japanese and three were built with Chinese parts. Except for the size (the two Japanese were 450 and 1000 cc and the ones with Chinese parts (2 150cc and 1 250cc)) they have been about the same. The only parts I had to replace on my last two "China" bikes was wheel bearings. Each of those bikes I owned for more than two years.

What not mentioned is the Chinese supply products based on the requirements and price of the buyer wholesale. If the buyer would say selling it 1k USD then they will buy parts to meet the price, but if the buyer would sell at 10k USD they will match the quality of the parts thus getting German or Japanese parts.

Another informative video teaching me more things I didn’t know! Good video, thanks

That fight part was cringe AF!

Great video Chris, loads of info. Have you thought about reviewing accessories such as helmets and gloves?

They still just don't have the same quality control and parts as the bigger brand names irrespective of the factory they were made in. I have a lexmoto. Wish I bought a Yamaha or Suzuki instead but I didnt know much about bikes unlike I do now

Very good honest video, servicing intervals for Chinese bikes are more important. That's the moral of this story

Great video makes me feel better I'm thinking of buying a zontes 310 how are these bikes holding up after a few years would you recommend.

Great video Chris. I've had a couple of Lexmoto and also a couple of UM all from new. Mostly fine but a couple if electrical issues. Current got a Yamaha MT 125 and love it. Made in France according to VIM check website. But in any event everything made has at least some Chinese components

I want to see video of the confrontation with the ybr125 guy you wanted to fight! But yes, great video and all good points!

Are you familiar with a bike called Tekken 250cc? What's it's review?

I have a Lifan KPM 200, and a CSC San Gabriel 400 (Zhongshen Cyclone RE-3 400). Both Chinese bikes and both good quality.

Generic no name brands don't have the same quality control, the known brands use. Its not a question of where bikes are made. Its a question of brand reputation .

"The Chinese have a tendency of not tightening their bolts properly or using loctite." This is something I've heard before and is quite disconcerting. There will always be flaws in any motorcycle brand, particularly if they try a new design. However, securing bolts properly is something really basic. This is something I've never come across when buying a Japanese brand.

Euro 4 specifies EITHER a combined braking system OR ABS. On cheaper motorcycles most go for ABS as it's easier to fit/retrofit to earlier models.

I enjoyed this video, it’s one thing if you have money as a motorcyclist, I’d happily ride a Ducati or a Harley D but the fact is that most of are on a budget, these chinese bikes are NOT that bad, if you’re prepared to throw a couple bucks at it to upgrade some stuff, mainly suspension, honestly I’ve been surprised by brake quality and really like that you can get a bike that is both NEW and has EFI for around $2000, it really makes the market reasonable for young riders

The popular Honda Grom 125 only makes 9.5hp, no where close to 14hp. The popular Boom Vader (Chinese Grom Clone) makes 8hp, no where close to 12hp

Hi Chris. In need of some advice what spark plug would you recommend for my zsx f Efi 125 and do you have any recommendations for oil. My bike is in need of its next service shortly but the dealer I brought it from appears to have lost interest in it and despite my calling in at the shop to organise a date and lots of phone calls a date is not forthcoming. Oh well never mind eh!

i'm low on money and most bikes in my range are chinese 150-200cc, and the cheapest yamaha YBR ED 125cc is like 50% more expensive than a 150-200cc bike, not talking about their MT-125 which is closest to MT-03 price (300cc) your advice was valuable, i think chinese are using old japanese bike's engine design and replicating them their manual manufacturing process was a mess bc their workers were underpaid and there was no quality control i think now things have changed for a few brands, because of transfer of technology and skills

Indeed! My Zontes ZT G1 and Sinnis Terrain both 125cc are great bikes.

Very interesting. Do you have any cf moto nk650 for a test ride

Hi Chris, Hope you don't mind the questions, I know they do not relate to the Video. I have a 2016 Bullit Hunt 250 with USD Forks. What weight fork oil and how much in each fork please? Hard to get the bike into Neutral with the engine running. Any clues? Thanks

Can you advise on zontes 350T, I think it ticks all the boxes, the only problem I see is getting parts. only one dealer in Dublin and will have to import from UK ,so more expense, plus taxes due to Brexit?

when im just a kid i used honda atv 90cc when im in teen i buy suzuki tsr125 after that i buy xr200 after that i buy kawasaki zx130 after that i buy chinese gy6150 scooter after that yamaha scooter 110cc after that yamaha 125scooter after that a gy6125 keeway now im planning to buy a chinese moped 150cc f.i. haha

Does the wk scrambler euro 5 125 use the zongshen engine too

Love Chinese dualsport. Especially the GPX FSE450R and the Orion RXB250L

Completely correct 👍 and also brand snoberry over the years plus the fact the so called Chinese brands don't make 600-1000cc bikes witch hasn't helped there cause

Very good video thank you very Educational

Good video...thank you. What are the EU rules for Chines Bikes? you mentiond Fuel Injection, what else?

I am very impressed about my GT Union PX 55 scooter a Yamaha Zuma clone. The quality is equal to the japanese but the factory assembly is still very much inferior. The braking in period is a must, parts are raw, whip a new engine, well it will not cut but it will be toasted, a squeeler that will not reach above 30 mph.

I have no beef with chinese bikes ,the way I see it is you get what you pay for . .ive had 2, an Xsport 200cc and a Wuyang 125cc ,both had more than there share of problems right from the outset but that was quite a few years ago . I am now concidering buying a lexmoto 50cc Hunter or simular .Maybe I'll be third time lucky . where I do disagree, is that just because any consumer item that comes out of the same factory as another one ,dosnt mean that there both built to the same standard ,as any one thats worked in a factory of any sort will tell you . Each product it made with the purchase price as the main contrabutary factor , motorcycles included.. Thanks , great channel, ride safe ;-)

My bike is a Chinese bike & it’s super reliable mine is a longjia not had any problems with it

Yamaha XSR 700 made in France. My BMW 650 has a Rotax (Austrian) engine was made in the Aprilia (Italy) factory. Later Rotax engines were indeed made in China.

Where stuff is made is irrelevant, you can have both good and crap come from any country, proof is in the pudding, how many lexmotos are the with more than 5 or 6 thousand miles are there? Not many, you only have to read forums to hear how bad their quality is

Its not where they're made that's really the issue for me, it comes down to the quality of the parts. When a bike retails for £4k not £2k there is a brand mark up, but you'd also expect better quality parts and engineering. That said I'm tempted by a Lemoto LXR, or Hyosung GT125R :)

AJS are chinese built but under British quality control they are well put together. I have a AJS Tempest Roadster 125.

As long as spair parts can be ordered and they dont have good breaks and clutch im fine

I have several friends who have bought Chinese bikes all less than 3 years old .all sat at the back of there garage broken or with major faults poor wiring quality gearbox parts not case hardened properly and parts not made for general wear and tear made from inferior materials . I have a 22 year old honda CB 250 all wiring works engine as covered 55 thousand miles and still in fine working order .I doubt any of these Chinese bikes will still be usable after 10 years never mind 22 .

Helpful video but could have done without the embelished fight story haha!. I get that China now manufacturers some quality mainstream bikes and things like iphone 😉 but they have much higher quality control standards. Think I'll get one now I don't ride big bikes anymore and Ive always had a soft spot for a old school naked 125.

There is a difference between a Japanese bike made in China and a Chinese brand bike. The factories that manufacture bikes for the Japanese in brands, which are made in China have much better quality control and are more or less built to the same quality as the ones made in Japan. The Chinese branded bikes still have any issues when I compare to them to the service records when we did carry them.

The intro killed my ears

Did tap on your website link, but it didn't seem to work?

Here in Bolivia most people don't have the 5000 bucks for a japanese or european bike, so we buy chinese. Not better than the branded ones, but defintely good

.......I love people who 'used to box'.

and how many watching and complaining use a chinese built laptop or smartphone ??

China's 450f when will that be available in the UK?

Look out guys! We're dealing with a badass here! I bet this guy scared Chuck Norris away this one time.

ooooh don't pick a fight with captain china. Get over yourself bro. There is always someone bigger and harder.

Just stumbled upon this as a recommended watch. Great info. Yeah the Chinese have definitely improved. Not sure how they will fair to British winters but hey, neither do the Japanese if not looked after. Triumph was the biggest con cause majority of bikes haven't been made in Hinckley for years with the much coveted Bonneville made in Thailand. I rie royal Enfield and dispute the quality to be no worse or better than any offerings 👍

Bullshit ive had 3 Chinese bikes and they all just fell to pieces after a year don't listen to his bullshit buy a proper Japanese bike trust me you will save a fortune everything on them is 100 times better quality everything on a Chinese bike is really low low quality all the metals low quality all the plastics low quality just everything in general is low quality trust me learn from my experience

Ybr 125cc are made by jianshe yamaha ltd

what is a japan derived chinese engine like cg or ybr is it just engine cases

Brilliant and informative.

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Top video keep it up guys

Please can you make a detailed vid on how to do an engine swap on a Yamasaki ym50

8:45. One man had 3 bikes at 75,000 kilometres each ? Yeah really? I was a motorcycle courier - i guess he was too . Chinese bikes are great ! lol - after you tighten the bolts up.

If you have to tighten bolts when you have just brought a brand new bike then i sorry but thats shit. Would you buy a new car n have to tighten the wheel bolts? If you brought a new oven wood you have to check its wired correctly or a fridge or a microwave? Absolutely ridiculous! Chinese bike are shit. Yes there getting better but they are still shit. I preferred my suzuki dr125 over the sky team 125 i had when i was younger. You sir are a helmet

Still don't want one...

i had a yby custom 2015 it had chinese ccc stamps all over it

do some great reviews. I think from my experience chinese bike are no gd I have had one for 2 week nothing but problems had to go and buy a Honda cbf 125. great review keep it up.

We need bigger engines in the cruisers, the chines bikes are alot better looking and they do really great cruisers. In my eyes anyway. I'd love to get my hands on one of the Benda eagle 400cc they are stunning so is the eagle 125. As a country we need to get better at getting these better looking bikes. Over here.

exactly!!! Nowadays chinese motorcycles have now a quality but not all!!! Zongzhen, cfmoto, taro, loncin are some chinese brand's that are reliable!

I hate people that dis Chinese bikes even though they haven't even tried riding it's dispersing 😔 P.s sorry if this doesn't make sense.

you guys have no clue about motorcycle manufacturing or production. there are a lot of new bikes which are strictly made in japan. there's a reason why china still makes bikes with 90's tech because thats all technology transfer they get for being china.