Decking Materials Explained (Composite vs PVC vs Ipe)

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BizBuddy

BizBuddy

Күн бұрын

★★★ Ultimate Deck Buying Guide! A must watch before purchasing any deck supplies. Deck Deck
Watch this video (link below) to understand how to estimate your decking materials in 2023
• Estimating Decking Mat...
Then Use this Trex Cost Calculator ➡️ thebizbud.co/deck-comp-sheet
Here's a link to view the Google Sheet with all decking materials in order of price (low to high)
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
The past year has seen a crazy fluctuation in decking material costs which is too much to keep up on with my spreadsheet. My recommendation is to use the link above that will take you to a deck cost calculator with Trex and combine that with my Google sheet to estimate your project. Not perfect but much better at predicting costs month to month.
Table of contents below:
0:00 Intro to Deck Materials Video
1:12 How to save $5 per deck sample
1:55 PVC vs Composite Decking
2:50 Wood vs PVC and Composite Decking
3:15 Caps (is 3 or 4 Sides better?)
4:24 Google (cheat) Sheet for Decking
5:54 Scalloped vs Solid Boards
8:04 Square feet vs Linear Feet explained
9:25 Nominal Width explained
10:05 Groove vs Solid Edge
10:47 Clips and Fasteners
12:33 Sustainability in decking
13:51 Scratch test on Decking
14:41 Fire Status explained
15:36 Deck Cost Calculator
17:36 What is a deck substructure?
20:43 Fascia Boards
23:51 How to save Money!
#DeckingCosts #2023

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@therealheadlessbob
@therealheadlessbob 3 жыл бұрын
Geez this is the most informative video I've seen on any one topic in a long time. Thanks for all the info!!
@dawsonthiago8776
@dawsonthiago8776 3 жыл бұрын
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@jaylenskyler8721 3 жыл бұрын
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@dawsonthiago8776 3 жыл бұрын
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@dantekaiser7097
@dantekaiser7097 3 жыл бұрын
@Dawson Thiago you are welcome =)
@richardleesparks6694
@richardleesparks6694 3 жыл бұрын
Hey BG, I just wanted to thank you for putting this together. I would suggest having a tip jar as this was the most comprehensive explanation on decking materials I've come across...saving me a ton of time in research.
@jennifercooper1062
@jennifercooper1062 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best instructional videos that I've ever seen! Thanks!
@bengalley2770
@bengalley2770 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making and sharing these spreadsheets! This has saved me so much time. I truly appreciate it!
@ebolds4918
@ebolds4918 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Thanks so much all the work you put into this effort👍🏽
@nealtakahashi4492
@nealtakahashi4492 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is going places. Awesome video. Very well done. I’m excited to see your other videos now. Thanks!
@mariodennisVA
@mariodennisVA 3 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best and most useful description of the pros and cons for decking. We will be referring to it when we rebuild our this fall. Thanks for all your effort and generosity.
@CoshitaFyF
@CoshitaFyF 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much for putting together this video... not need for me to do any more research... you gave me the information I was looking for. Amazing job 👍🥇
@Whiter00m
@Whiter00m 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best and most informative video i have seen on youtube. Well done sir.
@andyjay5903
@andyjay5903 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I started doing something similar and am relieved to see that somebody else would be as detailed as i am. Sometimes i fear I’m wasting my time given that I’ll probably screw the decks down crooked.
@arepadetrigo
@arepadetrigo 27 күн бұрын
This is the best video on this subject out there. Thanks!
@Old-DrO
@Old-DrO 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Im very impressed with you're video. One of the best on youtube!! Your a genius! Thx.
@idhindsight
@idhindsight 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best things I’ve found on KZfaq ever. Thanks so much for all this info!!
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@obsoletevalues6209
@obsoletevalues6209 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your hard work with the world!
@lenny1158
@lenny1158 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! This is easily the best video, packed with the most useful & complete information I have seen on KZfaq. Thanks for the super cool spreadsheet calculator too. I appreciate you sharing all your hard work. All I need to do now is figure out how to update the price lists with current prices. Maybe with Excel's Get & Transform feature can help with that. I will definitely sign up to your mailing list & watch your other videos ASAP.
@phillymdm
@phillymdm 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. Thanks for sharing. Trying to decide between composite or pvc for new deck around my pool. Thanks
@TanukiOfficial
@TanukiOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Truly excellent video!! Thank you! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@brucebissell7626
@brucebissell7626 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. GOD BLESS. THIS INFO REALLY HELPED ME.
@jackjordan7691
@jackjordan7691 3 жыл бұрын
That was so very well done, thank you so much.
@elorgwhee
@elorgwhee 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. What an informative video. Thanks so much!
@tantricsarcasm9133
@tantricsarcasm9133 27 күн бұрын
This video is fantastic. Thank you!
@KyleNachtigal
@KyleNachtigal 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible resource. Thanks for your work!
@Matchsprint
@Matchsprint 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks for your effort here as it is very helpful.
@garrettschuchholz5424
@garrettschuchholz5424 3 жыл бұрын
This is freakin' awesome. Can't wait to use all of the info. Thanks
@MarioFachini
@MarioFachini 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, love the detail, thank you :)
@userbosco
@userbosco 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, what a great video. Total master class for newbs. I went w/ Trex Enhanced naturals for a 80 ft boardwalk and a 600 sq ft deck. It was on sale at HD for only $3 more per board for 12 ft lengths. Says more about the redonk lumber prices than the Trex cost, IMO. Anyway, it looks amazing and I'll never have to treat it!! I will also add that prepare to get frustrated with Trex hardware, their screws are cheaply made and strip out with star bits constantly. I ended up buying Timbertech screws and CAMO starting clips.
@user-rs2bc6nj8u
@user-rs2bc6nj8u 9 ай бұрын
very well researched and presented. It helps a lot
@AleksHaugom
@AleksHaugom 3 жыл бұрын
You rock! Thanks for saving me 8 hours of research. Also, I suggest using the Free Lowe’s deck designer to get help figuring out the substructure of your deck.
@alexandergoughenour4413
@alexandergoughenour4413 3 жыл бұрын
You earned that thumbs up. Namaste right here and watch this whole video.
@bluesraincancun9217
@bluesraincancun9217 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful! thanks.
@lordooley3042
@lordooley3042 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks!
@RamonChicharron
@RamonChicharron 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🏽😊
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative.
@ottbee6976
@ottbee6976 3 жыл бұрын
Super informative. Thank you.
@shauncornish190
@shauncornish190 2 жыл бұрын
fan friging tastic, just what i needed THANK YOU
@sandybil
@sandybil 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Plenty of information, god bless you
@Stealth616
@Stealth616 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great work!
@thefly963
@thefly963 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is very useful!
@zx10rabs
@zx10rabs 3 жыл бұрын
Answered all my questions.👍
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve.
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Man did you do your research! Great job!
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Engineered bamboo is a hardwood option that is very eco-friendly. It's hardness and density rating is equal to and exceeds Ipe thanks to the hydraulically compressed resin/bamboo makeup.
@Pittsburghbad
@Pittsburghbad 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video wish I would of seen before I started my deck. None the less great video. Definitely posting on fakebook
@melissagraf4681
@melissagraf4681 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Good info and comparisons. Especially appreciated yr tone of voice and spoke to yr audience as if they were intelligent. I find so many videos talk down to the viewer, I'll prepared and the voice is so irritating that I turn them off immediately. Thank you!
@Old-DrO
@Old-DrO 3 жыл бұрын
I really like that you thought of sustainability we only have one planet so its very important!
@rascofats
@rascofats 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!! I just purchased a house and the deck needs replaced.
@pamhesse6088
@pamhesse6088 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! I couldn't find the video showing what you chose for your own deck. Can you share with us what you decided on and why?
@nitinudhwani
@nitinudhwani 3 жыл бұрын
Your video, presentation, data collection, , data analysis is amazing, and moreover putting it in excel sheet is just super amazing. You are a rockstar. Also, I couldn't not find the link the spreadsheet, not sure if I missed it, tried couple times,,I would truly appreciate if you could send me that link. Thank you again
@billandersonashevillereale7175
@billandersonashevillereale7175 2 жыл бұрын
Cool ! Thanks very much
@pbandjca
@pbandjca 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. I have tried in vain to find part 2 of this video. You showed a short clip of an upcoming scratch test, but where do I find it? Kudos for sharing the hard work you obviously put into this
@adamhapper6706
@adamhapper6706 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably informative. I'm having a house built and want to add a trex deck, but after seeing this may consider the PVC. I live in Northern Kentucky (By Cincy) and would like your advice on which you would prefer/recommend.
@docabj8097
@docabj8097 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
@sid9170
@sid9170 Жыл бұрын
Best construction video ever- so much info for novice like me! Awesome spread sheet. b Do you have a feel for traction (slipperyness) of different materials? Expansion/ contraction, heat retention? Thanks!
@deanr4847
@deanr4847 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!! Did you do any research on expanding and contracting between products.Wondering what’s best or at least the least. I’m reading MBC (mineral based composite) is very minimal.
@aaronharvey6406
@aaronharvey6406 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@MysticWanderer
@MysticWanderer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow a 25 minute video researched and annotated!
@mordysalem1498
@mordysalem1498 3 жыл бұрын
When you buy decking it's not linear footage, you simply multiply the width of the board by the length. A 16 ft Trex board at 5.5" is 16 X (5.5/12) .458 = 7.328 and there's your sq footage :)
@sprill8876
@sprill8876 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. The price of lumber has skyrocketed since last fall. Is your $5 for substructure still valid?
@michaelchang9625
@michaelchang9625 3 жыл бұрын
I could not find a download file link on your posted link. Am I missing something?
@demariow78
@demariow78 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Has anyone used WearDeck by Owens Corning? I live in the Tampa Bay Area.
@rickcrosswhite9192
@rickcrosswhite9192 3 ай бұрын
First - great helpful video and worksheet. QUESTION - within your spreadsheet I found that the price for Fiberon Goodlife deck boards are roughly 1/2 the price of Fiberon Concordia Symmetry deck boards. These are two products that we are considering for our project of adding a landing and stairs to a pre-existing 10 year old Fiberon Horizon Rosewood deck. In your research did you find much difference between the quality of the Fiberon Goodlife deck boards and the Fiberon Concordia Symmetry deck boards beyond the length of the warranty?
@starpartyguy5605
@starpartyguy5605 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you and your viewers. What do people think about the feel of wood vs composite underfoot? I know there's more maintenance for wood. But is the sacrifice of that feel worth the composite feel?
@mehdihanchi4864
@mehdihanchi4864 3 жыл бұрын
Si you have a version for Québec area ?
@samueldheyliger
@samueldheyliger 3 жыл бұрын
No Deckorators? Literally the best out there!
@Spgal
@Spgal 3 жыл бұрын
I just that at Home Depot. Why is it the best?
@Jeff13th
@Jeff13th 2 жыл бұрын
The TimberTech Azek Vintage and Harvest are a Capped Polymer which I believe means they are a PVC material. So I am wondering why you have it labeled as a composite. Did TimberTech change their materials from 2020 to 2021 on these two collections?
@brianhoward438
@brianhoward438 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation.I am looking to replace my 25x25 deck.The sub frame is perfect.We want to do a composite deck.I live in New York,upstate.What should I be looking at roughly for this project?many thanks
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re looking composite I think Fiberon, TimberTech and Trex are your way to go. Then it just depends on budget. If you grabbed the cheat sheet filter it by composite and then price per linear foot. That should help narrow your thoughts.
@anabarboza86
@anabarboza86 2 жыл бұрын
what material did you end up using for your deck? I couldn't find the video that mentions it :(
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 2 жыл бұрын
How is the bouncyness between wood, composite, and PVC?
@chrisarmes3450
@chrisarmes3450 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, great video - thank you. But isnt Fiberon Paramount 4 sided caped? It says its a 3 sided in your spreadsheet thats all.
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to check. Might have made a typo on that one.
@jsville2023
@jsville2023 2 жыл бұрын
Real wood lumber is sometimes scalloped to prevent cupping.
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Scalloping also reduced weight and therefore reduces freight costs. That combined with less material inputs is how they achieve a lower price.
@gocirf3433
@gocirf3433 3 жыл бұрын
Is the select brand of trex any different than other levels trex for the shell (plastic coating)covering it
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. They differ in aesthetics, durability, and price point. Select is in the middle.
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Your linear foot to square foot calculation will leave you short. It's closer to 2.2x...not double. Divided the actual board width by 12 to get the square foot coverage.
@kellygordon103
@kellygordon103 2 жыл бұрын
I figured the nominal dimension where a carryover from the lumber industry. 2x4's actually being 1.5" x 3.5" in such.
@14dougfresh
@14dougfresh Ай бұрын
can you please update the prices? :D itd be interesting to see the inflation on all of this
@slickdealer2099
@slickdealer2099 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video resource. Everyone should use to enhance knowledge. What is reasonable price for materials plus labor for a 240 sq for Timbertech vintage line with new substructure?
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think it will really depend on your location. Contractors in Bay Area are way more expensive than other areas. If your contractor is fully insured it will be more than a solo-handyman. I'll let you know when I do my project how it shakes out price wise.
@slickdealer2099
@slickdealer2099 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am getting quotes in the $17-20k for 240 sqft in diagonal pattern for Trex Transcend with new subframe. I am in the Boston area.
@scottreyes17
@scottreyes17 3 жыл бұрын
$17k-$20k for a 12'x12' deck is #^%#$*!#%$ insane!!!
@jaybrignac1523
@jaybrignac1523 3 жыл бұрын
regarding getting a price estimate for a deck, it's like going to a doctor and asking for the cost of a particular surgery. Prices vary on items that aren't discussed. My example, every area, every city will have it's cost of living multiplier. Of course, then you have supply and demand of the season for labor and materials. Professional contractor or UbuildIt Uself? Substructure: what quality wood are you using, inexpensive or Grade 1. How high are you off the ground, are you attaching to a house or building free standing? Will you have steps leading to the ground, what kind of soil do you have for footers? Do you have ventilation around-thru the deck or building in the woods covered by trees (hence debris all the time, the deck's structure could always be damp). Do you want a simple decking pattern, or a herringbone-diagonal that requires more joists than other decking. Even the quality of the decking may demand the joists are closer together. Will your pressure treated substructure be wrapped for that completed look? Oh, what type of railing do you want (metal, composite, combination) and how high will your railing be. Lighted or not, what colors as there are basic costs and special colors cost more. I could go on, and I am just an amatheur who want a solid, well built deck. Any price for the same size could vary by over 100% if your Uncle Bob who knows which end of the hammer to use. Plus, no-one uses hammers any more.
@devintran8071
@devintran8071 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add some vocabulary tips from someone with a science background. You can use the terms homogenous and heterogenous to describe something that looks uniform vs. chaotic. Either works of course. Just thought you may like that. Or you might hate that and wish I would keep it to myself. idk. cheers.
@scottreyes17
@scottreyes17 3 жыл бұрын
I signed up for the email distro, but I don't see any immediate download link.
@Dunecrazy1
@Dunecrazy1 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Why not link directly to the google sheet? I suspect I'm about to get so much spam...
@Pulseczar1
@Pulseczar1 3 жыл бұрын
I think you would be a fantastic teacher. It's a shame, though, that you won't give people the spreadsheet until they give you a valid email address. It really brings up privacy concerns. For those that don't mind typing in a long cryptic web address, it's provided in the video, at 23:09.
@jaybrignac1523
@jaybrignac1523 3 жыл бұрын
you have access to the spreadsheet without adding anything, at least it was accessible to me using gmail.
@Pulseczar1
@Pulseczar1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaybrignac1523 My point is that he provided a link to the spreadsheet that forces you to give him a valid email address, before you can access the spreadsheet.
@Pulseczar1
@Pulseczar1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaybrignac1523 I checked the link again in the description. It's now a direct link to the spreadsheet. Before, it took you to a site that asked you for a valid email address before it would give you the link. I think it would email you the link, which is how it forced you to provide a valid address, if I recall correctly. I never gave it a valid address. So, I'm assuming the last part.
@vladshults5395
@vladshults5395 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. Question: is it possible to start my own decking company with no experience? I would sub out all the labor. I am currently in Home Improvement sales (windows, doors and siding) working for a company, have been wanting to start something on my own and I have been considering/looking into decks, however I have no experience. What would be your advice? Thank you
@patrickshubin6824
@patrickshubin6824 Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention how hot the different boards got on bare feet when considering a deck around a pool. PVC seems it wood be too hot.
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
The width explanation isn't correct however. None of them with achieve 6" width with the clip space. The 6" comes from the lumber industry. A rough sawn 5/4"x6" is dressed down to a 1"x5.5" dimension. Most clip spacers are 3/16" to 1/4"...add that to the board width...5.25-5.5" for your calculations.
@cs9574
@cs9574 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the link to the spread sheet?
@jaybrignac1523
@jaybrignac1523 3 жыл бұрын
look under the buyers guide, it's there now at least.
@jamesmcdonnell65
@jamesmcdonnell65 3 жыл бұрын
There is no link to the excel spreadsheet you mention. The web page asks you to enter an email address then nothing. What's the solution?
@bizbud
@bizbud 3 жыл бұрын
You should get an email with the sheet? Did you check spam folder?
@jaybrignac1523
@jaybrignac1523 3 жыл бұрын
you can find the link to the excel spreadsheet without entering an email address, it's under the buyers guide and very simple to use (at least with gmail).
@debsagan8469
@debsagan8469 2 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Veka Decking? PVC
@angelasoWA
@angelasoWA 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes my materials for Trex Transcend will be over $20k!
@TheUltimateDeckShop
@TheUltimateDeckShop 3 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of solid edge boards is also quite inaccurate. The solid edge profiles are to be used for visible area like picture frames and stairs, and for a stronger edge for the stair nosing. Butting the boards together will absolutely NOT create a dry space below a high deck. Wood shrinks and expands with its moisture content. Even if you install hydraulically tight...it will shrink and leave a space. The only way to give dry space below your deck is to use a water management system of some sort. Installing the boards tight will absolutely not do this alone.
@jaybrignac1523
@jaybrignac1523 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for adding that absolutely accurate information. You have an exceptional website with information of which I have visited many times.
@ChristopherDillman
@ChristopherDillman 3 жыл бұрын
The best YT overview on decks yet! Also a nice tutorial on Google Sheets. :D Going to enter a new $ value for substructure, since the price of lumber now is through the stratosphere. Suffice to say $15 per sq ft on substructure today vs $5 in 2020? Also need to factor in the type of footings required - standard vs caissons. Any calculation you suggest for those?
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