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I loved how you used music from the anime movie in place of copyright stuff. That movie doesn't get enough love, no matter the cringe.

Y’all are doing great! Enjoying it a lot ^^

it good torque

Enjoyed the video very much regardless of these necessary edit for DeeBeeGeek. thank you again for helping Dee out with this. And I secretly hope that Dee wil touch a game that he hasn't seen a trailer of called Sonic Riders. But I will leave it up to the team that you are a part of. It great to be a member of this good community.

Only like 4 of them were actually bad

Or 5

YOU SAID IT LOL God, seeing the trailers for Boom, Shadow, and Lost World felt so surreal, especially after seeing what they came to be.

@@DylanofScreenTime The Boom trailer still looked boring tbh

@@DylanofScreenTime Honestly looking back we kinda gave Lost World more shit than it honestly deserved, yeah the story kinda sucks and is bland I won't lie but the gameplay is actually pretty fun

Yeah Adventure one is very cheesy and is rather slow passed compared to modern games. But the stages and overworld were pretty unique and still really cool. But those cutscenes, they're horrendous. It's amazing how much better Adventure 2 was in that regard.

But they're cheesy in a kinda edgy way, not in a facepalmy "Baldy McNosehair" way

@@ledkicker2392 Exactly. They're cheesy in the best possible way - something that a kid can look at and actually think is cool because the games take themselves seriously. Some of the more recent Sonic games unfortunately took the opposite approach and were filled with goofy moments and self-deprecating humor that no one could take seriously. Sonic is at his best when he feels cool and the Adventure games, especially SA2, accomplished that in spades.

@@ledkicker2392 Eh Sonic games *ALWAYS* had their face palm moments even the good ones lol

I think I played Sonic Adventure 2 Battle a hundred times or more. It's just so satisfying!

Where's SA2?

Yup, this describes Sonic well, the meta era, however, is nothing, *but* cringe.

@@sezunemizuhana3870 Begone Meta Era Hater! Your Annoyingness is not Welcome here!

Honestly, Cringey has gotten such a bad rap these days. That I'd rather call Sonic "Corny but awesome", like at least between 1991-2009; it did everything with passion and sincerity without needed to laugh at itself just to make itself appear cool.

@@sketchsskotch1073 exactly, it's far from cringe.

Nah even Before the Meta Era there where cringe moments

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they were 80s bands

@@marksammie830 They were active during the 90's as well. So my point still stands.

@@LittleAl016 when i think of 90s sounding i think of soundgarden, korn and green day

@@marksammie830 While true, I don't really see the relevance. Considering how different Crush 40's music style is from them.

@@LittleAl016 i thought it was more pop punk like

I just hope he plays the ps3 or Xbox version of the game and not the wii or ps2 ones.

Just curious, what's your all time favourite game?

@@CheeseBlaster Breath of the Wild, that's how I originally found his channel

Well there is also the fact that when they use these new mechanics, that they aren't very well implemented and even very buggy. It is already known that Sonic 3D games used to be (maybe even now, don't know for sure) rushed in their development. It isn't that new isn't hated, but the refinement for the audience experience is lacking that it is being hated.

Facts lol!

Well the franchise is divided into pieces due to them continuously trying to change the formula. When one game fails they seemingly scrap the whole style and restart from scratch. Sonic 06 was viewed poorly "I guess they don't like slow 3D platformers anymore", Sonic Free Riders was viewed poorly "I guess people are tired of this series", Sonic Forces is hated "I guess they don't like the boost formula anymore". A lot of these games could have been made better if they just did a bit more focus teams. Sonic and the Black Knight was a vast improvement over Secret Rings with that game literally having invisible collectables. How are you supposed to find those without a guide? Not to mention 90% of that game are minigames that are required to beat the game. Sonic Team only seems to see a game was viewed poorly and goes full scorched earth on it instead of just reading why people didn't like it. Classic Sonic could have been good, if he didn't control like a tank. Sonic Forces could have been much better if the stages were a bit longer, Free Riders was on a doomed platform, etc. This is a regard Nintendo with Zelda has been vastly better with. They don't just make an entirely new game when one is less popular, they change what people didn't like about the last. Skyward Sword was called too linear, well now BotW is the least linear, Wind Waker looked childish, well Twilight Princess is the most adult themed yet. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel, just take a bit of advice.

No...if everyone's hating on a game there are it's reasons. Granted I don't think any sonic game should be labeled some of the worst games of all time...but some of them are justifiable

Welp I just finished the vid, my bad lol

You forgot to include a lot of the handheld games which are also canon to the original story. Such as how Sonic first met Cream in Sonic Advance 2, Blaze in Sonic Rush, and due to in game time travel Silver in Sonic Rivals. There’s also Sonic Battle which shows when Sonic met Emerl which is important to the story of Gemerl in Sonic Advance 3.

Also Sonic battle, Sonic advance series, and the Sonic Rush Series

wheres sonic mania and sonic mania plus

I'll be including the games above

So what's the best sonic games for ps4 as far as gameplay mechanics and all the good stuff and very wide open all over the place with so many places to go

The $40 launch price for Forces said it all. It was clearly a budgeted game made by inexperienced developers. (Many of the talented devs at Sonic Team who worked on Unleashed and Generations left before Forces was made.)

Main issues, the levels were too easy, and the story wasn't put together well enough since the original game was going to be Generations 2.

@@Superderpynerd Not only were they too easy (incredibly simplistic level design) but they were too short. Some of the stages would actually end before the music could finish looping.

he's literally going to play it there's no reason to just tell him it's bad right away, let him figure out if he likes it or not

@@FlickeringLightsInTheDarkAbyss as someone who liked 06 to a decent amount, forces was so much worse in my opinion. there are so many ways it could have been better.and because of that, its one of if not the worst sonic game to me. the only redeming thing was the insane amount of stuff you could use to customise your OC.

Agreed. It's a shame as the plot was such a cool idea, but it was made in literally the worst possible way. It was basically the Sonic franchise's Mass Effect Andromeda. A game that could have been great but was marred by poor management decisions and laughable writing.

The exact definition of this game is "good ideas on the paper but poorly executed", you cannot describe it a better way

This, but applied to everyone in SA2 that mistakes Shadow for Sonic.

Yes this is so important and something I tell everyone before they play the adventure games.

Definitely the best way to play adventure 1

I'd say in general, just download the full Better SADX mod. It has the Dreamcast conversion built in with a bunch of optional ones as well including the option to toggle the old and new character models and even use the new models with old textures (basically the best they ever looked), you can make the light speed dash instant or quicker, gives true widescreen support, native controller support, lets you play as Super Sonic in stages (which is very broken), it has the Dreamcast DLC that is unobtainium otherwise, etc. It's really just the best way to play the game. Adventure 2 is a lot more iffy. It is really unstable on PC but it does look best there if you can get it to work right. I know my copy of that game hasn't worked in a while and I just haven't bother to try and fix it. It might be best to play that one on a PS3.

@@Skylancer727 Better SADX is a godsend

I've given him Better SADX and applied some small fixes and improvements to his game ahead of Friday but he's choosing to play the DX version.

The best controls for Sonic

@@theminecraft2516 yaaaas

For me it is Adventure 1 just because it had some open world between the levels, i liked so much to walk/explore the world

@@ionutnertan duuuude me too. It was so chill, and i loved all the music & the story. i wished SA2 had the open hub-world

He has all the games but never played them i can't relate

Aww, that's awesome! ^^ I'm really excited for it, too, I getcha!

@@jellycore1316 yeah. He already streamed sonic’s story in adventure 1 on twitch and it’s still there

Was just about to say this. The mods that restore the game to Dreamcast quality are they way to go.

SA2 has some bugs in it';s re-releases too. It's not as bad as with SA1 but it's still worth doing, if only to fix the annoying duplicated dripping sound on aquatic mine.

@@MajoraZ SA2 on PC though is rather unstable without some more obscure mods. Plus Adventure 2 definitely requires an audio balancing mod on PC.

I mean 06 is pretty badass, but also bad and ass

There's a Sonic adventure 2 restoration project ? I thought there was only one for the first game

Mine was Shadow the Hedgehog... I still like it, but Adventure 1 and 2 are definitely more fun games to play. Though I still think Heroes is a steaming pile of crap. First 3D Sonic game I didn't like.