DeepCool's CH160 is SFF Air Cooling at its... Deepest.

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I really like this case. In fact I wish more cases were like this, since it checks off a lot of boxes that are pretty important versus just being able to fit a huge graphics card that only a few SFFers use.
Come see why this is case is the real steal.
DeepCool CH160
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Components:
X670E-I (Warning- don't get this board if you're using the Assassin 4S): amzn.to/49Qy3Bw
I prefer the B650E-I anyway: amzn.to/3xKLBBo
7900X: amzn.to/3tyuAZr
Assassin 4S: amzn.to/3xQ5qHx
If you really want to try liquid cooling-
I used the Atmos 240: amzn.to/3WcnPZm
But the PL240 Flux would be more compatible since it has a low pump:
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Fan upgrade to T30: amzn.to/3vi4IBP
Overkill case fans: amzn.to/44rnB2F
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6800XT: amzn.to/3NL12yx
SFX: amzn.to/3RI808P
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0:00 Intro
1:21 Quick case features
4:58 The inner workings
10:34 Unofficially Liquid Cooling it
13:21 LC Thermals
14:47 Big air is where it's at
17:55 Pros
19:51 Downsides
22:38 Build Recommendations
24:18 Conclusion

Пікірлер: 124

@hanyh2 Ай бұрын

Glad you got this review squared away.

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

Touché!

@tomlavelle8340 Ай бұрын

L 7

@sig3ldunc4nI Ай бұрын

You could say, he has it handled

@neonspecter2730 Ай бұрын

You can actually remove the entire IO panel to make fitting the graphics card a lot easier.

@matteo4413 Ай бұрын

Love that ITX cases are starting to support huge air coolers. Would be nice if Deepcool offered one for ~$10 more that included a vented side pannel.

@impruv522 Ай бұрын

it's coming later this year, google CH160 Digital

@MrBecas22 Ай бұрын

You mean 10$ less :D

@nootonian4149 11 күн бұрын

ueyyyy now there is

@ferdinandbardamu3945 Ай бұрын

That top exhaust fan robs the CPU cooler of intake air. It should either be a top intake or a solid piece that prevents front intake air from exiting too soon.

@mikeelek9713 Күн бұрын

I bought this case to build a small PC for my daughter (waiting for it to be delivered). Although most reviewers like the large DeepCool CPU cooler, I'm loathe to spend as much on the cooler as I spent on the case. Great job on the video, as always.

@cortlong Ай бұрын

i feel like deepcool was like "alright, lets get out shit together" and just started dropping absolute bangers lately. their AIO is a monster despite being loud af. this case has my attention now too.

@chewdawg Ай бұрын

I'd like to see this case with the rear fan intake and front+front/top fans exhaust (and of course the CPU fan going the other way as well). It would have both the CPU and GPU getting fresh air from outside the case and all the airflow going in one direction.

@oRicardoHetfield Ай бұрын

i don't know why no one is doing that! I hoped that M&m would do it... so obvious, then even the top front fan would actually make sense, and even you could get rid of the front fan...

@SoundFisher Ай бұрын

Flip the rear fan into intake (add a magnetic dust filter behind), flip the fan of the air cooler, flip the front fan into exhaust. That may have more better cpu thermals.

@random-zr5km Ай бұрын

Great Video! Best SFF case reviews on YT! I love the size comparison b-roll, it's so helpful! How about displaying the case names in the upper part of the screen as beginners might struggle to know which case is which? Maybe using yellow for the case you're reviewing and a darker blue or green for the names of the other cases might look well... Video length 25min was def nice and the amount of helpful details you mention really help a lot in figuring out if I want to buy that case. Only point I missed more details of was airflow direction. Is bottom to top realistically viable or front to back only? Can you show a b-roll of how a smaller rtx 4070/4060 and rx 7600/6700 would look inside the case in the next video about this case, please? Also, I'm in the market for an SFX PSU when a good deal shows up. But there's no corsair SF 450/600 in the shops/marketplaces I looked through. Corsair SF 750 for 190€ was the smallest I found. Can you make a video to help budget oriented builders find a great value SFX PSU?

@chrisnotyourbusines7739 Ай бұрын

Wow finally someone did from the start up what I'm doing for years to fit my big noctua in a small case

@crunz91 Ай бұрын

Great content and channel 👍🏻

@ThrasherEscapes Ай бұрын

rectangle after intro: 😢😭

@ariefnugraha243 Ай бұрын

Amazing budget case, yeah I like deepcool's design language too, I wish they made mainstream consumer gpu with their design language too

@boss350z5 Ай бұрын

the front IO panel is removable to make the card installation easier.

@adpt_music Ай бұрын

another top tier review from Machines & More

@realkencab Ай бұрын

Are you testing other air coolers in this case in the future? I'm curious if the Fuma 2/3 or the PA/PS120 would fit if you wanted to mount two fans on top of the case. With 140mm coolers like the Assassin IV, it doesn't seem like it, so I'm curious if it's possible with 120mm air coolers

@obeliskt1024 Ай бұрын

Man, I would've loved to see this case back in 2020 when I was first delving into SFF. I wouldn't have gone to buy an Inwin A1. This is the perfect case for me back then, big enough to accommodate beefy air coolers, good PSU support (atx and sff), good airflow direction (front to back), enough ventilation all around and oh god that build process, being able to disassemble the top would would have been a godsend. Maybe on my next sff build, but for now I'm stuck with this inwin a1 hotbox which is a pain to build/update my build on.

@trevorbarney1796 Ай бұрын

Nothing stopping you from doing a transplant into this case 🍷

@user-tb2uz5mu8l Ай бұрын

It's cheap enough that you can always case swap if your current one is not to your liking. And you can also do some pixel art on the front so win win I guess?

@obeliskt1024 Ай бұрын

@@user-tb2uz5mu8l yeah maybe ill try to swap once I get my 4070FE. Not sure how the fitment will go because i have an atx psu

@clarkkent999 Ай бұрын

Have you figure out why there's extra screw holes on the bar where the front IO is located?

@marksulloway5669 Ай бұрын

Nice review. Lots of screws. I would prefer a vented metal side panel instead of glass. Would like to see a build with a smaller air cooler.

@Scarlet_Soul Ай бұрын

If this had an option for a vented side panel it would be perfect

@TheTastefulThickness Ай бұрын

That option is coming but maybe not even much better for cooling.

@Scarlet_Soul Ай бұрын

@@TheTastefulThickness I prefer the look over a glass panel anyway

@superstaples Ай бұрын

Any word on when the tower style digital version of this case launches??

@Quaddragon Ай бұрын

I agree with you on the front panel IO. It needs shorter cables. It would have been cool to allow for a plug in the top of the case so it could be removeable. I also would have liked to see a mesh side panel for people wanting to run front facing coolers instead of the side mounted one.

@candymangames5022 Ай бұрын

The T-30's used on the rad look thick , perhaps more pump clearance if the fans were noctua slims ?

@robiecalong2 Ай бұрын

You said doesn’t have an option for a vented side panel (metal), do you know if we can buy from Deepcool; because i will be traveling with it. Glass panel and bumpy travel conditions will potentially break the glass some time or another. It would be cool to do LAN party, considering they are coming with some good IPS portable monitors… hahaha on 15 inches of monitor 😅

@trousersnake1486 Ай бұрын

They could of put a couple of cable routing clips on the outside of the case on the back for a power cord. It's not a deal breaker for me but would've helped.

@ayuchanayuko Ай бұрын

A these sizes, its now a matx SFF case. The size reminds me of my Focus Nemesis and its 901 clone cube cases.

@Xxlionxx5150 22 күн бұрын

can you try the noctua slim fit fans in with the radiator to see if that would be a better fit for the fans? i feel like thats an option on this case thats being overlooked as an option

@Weezedog Ай бұрын

Seems to be very similar to the KXRORS G200, right down to the handle, but slightly bigger and with tempered glass instead of a vented panel.

@The11devans Ай бұрын

The ability to invert this case would be pretty interesting. Looks like the feet can come off, so modding might be an option?

@krazyfrog Ай бұрын

Also, what about a 120mm AIO the back? It looks like one could fit even though Deepcool doesn't mention it.

@sparkplugbarrens Ай бұрын

Does the top exhaust fan do anything? It seems like it would direct the air intake directly out the top before entering the cpu cooler.

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

If you run the fans at the same speed, then that could happen. The front and rear fans need to sync with the cooler fan, the top exhaust is just a slow speed case fan.

@rubyvolt Ай бұрын

I have a DeepCool sic pipe dual tower that I bought for my 4790K that is now on my 9900KF. Three 120's and Cinebench gets the CPU to just 76C. Great stuff.

@DEEPCOOL1996 Ай бұрын

Good to know:)

@ckush928 Ай бұрын

Is the digital version not out yet? couldn't find it on google

@buboybutoy1704 Ай бұрын

if you install the sfx psu at the front, will an matx board fit?

@VoltusYTPremiiiiiiiii Ай бұрын

sorry can i ask, which better build for airflow? can u share menitues of video, i want to see the build

@anouarkafi7039 Ай бұрын

I have question if deepcool ch160 can fit mini dtx motherboards

@chrisrussellca 21 күн бұрын

So weird that they didn’t provide the decorative squares in the retail package

@chrisrussellca 15 күн бұрын

You could just remove the Acrylic pump cover on the ATMOS to remove 10mm from the overall height. Bringing the reduced height to 43mm. I made a video about this recently on my page.

@chrisbullock6477 Ай бұрын

Perfect for an air cooled 7800XT/4080 build

@willn8664 Ай бұрын

If I didn't already have the NR200, I would probably check this case out.

@foxfennec2940 22 күн бұрын

And what if you try to replace the fans on the radiator. To put not 120x120x25, but 120x120x15, so to speak, thin models. For example, from Thermalright TL-C12015S. Will this help, not interfere with the water block and radiator. Do not bend the motherboard, thereby reducing the likelihood of failure. There are also models with a low water block. This; ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 RGB White Edition ASUS ROG STRIX LC II 240 ARGB Jonsbo SHADOW TW4-240 ARGB Ver 2.0 It is a pity that they are without displays.)))

@karma.2781 Ай бұрын

its looking impossible to fit a 280mm gpu aio with a cpu air cooler, can you confirm?

@ckush928 Ай бұрын

Can you remove the top handle or does that always stay there.

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

Removable and looks fine without it.

@cakeisalie Ай бұрын

I'm sure you dismantled this build already, how hard was it to pull out the 24-pin cable without scratching the case and PSU while fishing for the clip?

@Jeff_Jaguar Ай бұрын

Rear intake the move for this case just like the NR200?

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

It can be, definitely on my radar to test.

@Scarlet_Soul Ай бұрын

With the aio as well, intake front and back with exhaust out the radiator

@The11devans Ай бұрын

@@MachinesMore looking forward to that one

@illuminada4583 9 күн бұрын

what is that square thing for design

@keibohow69 Ай бұрын

As you done water cooling you don't need the rear fan or set it to exhaust.

@Hoonbernator1590 Ай бұрын

That is one squarely monster

@rahul875 Ай бұрын

Can we install 4s in Nr200p

@user-ok7qj5bu6x 8 күн бұрын

Do you happen to know if the rog strix z690-i gaming wifi's tall m.2 heatsink not compatible with the aircoolers u used?

@MachinesMore 8 күн бұрын

Gosh, probably my least favorite ITX board in terms of compatibility. If I had trouble with the X670E-I then I am almost certain the Asus Z690-I is a no-go.

@user-ok7qj5bu6x 6 күн бұрын

@@MachinesMore :( i made an inquiry request from deepcool and asked if any of their coolers can clear the m.2 heatsink of my motherboard.... Even they dont know...

@Aodan Ай бұрын

Can this fit in a NR200?

@chronicvader Ай бұрын

I love everything but the way the power cord is. Having that cable just dangle like that out the back just doesn't do it for me

@Unhomiee Ай бұрын

Seems like a good alternative to the NR200 (at first glance). I'm only about a minute into the video.

@Unhomiee Ай бұрын

Okay. Seems odd that it performed worse than the NR200 (thermally).

@garrek99 28 күн бұрын

In the all air setup, isn't the top exhaust fighting the overall airflow? The front intake fan supplies the top exhaust and the CPU intake fan. But the top exhaust is also taking away from the CPU intake fan, no? In my opinion, you are diverting air that would have been consumed by the CPU intake fan by adding the top exhaust fan.

@ebsmith1102 Ай бұрын

are the lengths of the cable able to be shortened?

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

The only reasonable way is if you replaced the cables entirely.

@ICmikeyP Ай бұрын

Please try the rear intake with front/top as exhaust with the same air cooler, also make sure you flip the fan inside the CPU cooler around. That seems like it would be the optimum setup and interested to know the temps. It seems like a common sense setup that every reviewer didn't seem to think about. M&M get ahead of that and release a updated video please!

@rahul875 Ай бұрын

Itx build are now getting more popular . Manufacturer make budget parts for it

@Savadrox Ай бұрын

i want that type of case but for 4090 suprim X

@krazyfrog Ай бұрын

16:41 The top exhaust position doesn't make much sense to me in a front to back airflow pattern. Wouldn't it just immediately exhaust the fresh air coming in from the front fan before it reaches the CPU cooler?

@bodasactra Ай бұрын

My top fan feeds a dual 120 twin tower air cooler. I get 5-7c better temps than exhaust.

@22MaanMaan Ай бұрын

Hey can you check if a 310mm card would fit init?

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

As a matter a fact it does, you just have to remove the rear panel to nudge it in. You cant drop it straight in because of the panel would be in the way. But with nudging it in you have 1mm or maybe a lil more of clearnce👍

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

4080 super founders editon is 310mm exactly, ive seen it been used in multiple builds with this case

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNtzg92e0bS4h6M.htmlsi=HUcIQE0uv8ghMbDM 7.56 to 8.22

@mooncake8254 Ай бұрын

How much is this?

@realbillgross Ай бұрын

Why would a newly released case not be able to fit 4080/4090 not even FE?

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

It can fit a 4080 fe, 4080 super fe, and a 4090 fe. Even tho deepcool says it dosent. If you remove the rear panel under installation and nudge it in it fits perfectly. Deepcool says max clearance is 305, but its 310:) "4080 super fe is 310, 4090 fe is 304" also smaller / slimmer 4080s like proart 4080 fits perfectly at 310mm

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

Apologies i meant the cpu cooler not the rear panel. You can install a 310mm card by nudging it in before installing a cpu cooler😅

@ItsTonyHere 25 күн бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNtzg92e0bS4h6M.htmlsi=HUcIQE0uv8ghMbDM 7.56 to 8.22

@realbillgross 25 күн бұрын

@@ItsTonyHere right, but why would anybody use this case if they can fit 3-slot GPUs comfortably in a sandwich case, in some cases under 10L.

@kotztotz3530 Ай бұрын

NR200 killer?

@type45tomcat21 Ай бұрын

Looks like this is the actual successor of NR200P, instead of NR200P V2

@julfy_god Ай бұрын

sad that it doesn't support matx motherboards, could have been really nice case

@trevorbarney1796 Ай бұрын

The front I/O bothers me. Getting the GPU in pained me to watch Ways to fix it: 1) Reduce wire length for cleaner run to motherboard. 2) Reduced it to just a power button and 1 USB (skip the audio no one* use it) 3) replace the solid steel with a mech panel that folds down on a hinge like the Q58, but keeps the I/O PCB in place when opened. In general I find it unacceptable for a case like this to not support active GPU cooling.

@JeffryRusli Ай бұрын

dimension (mentioned) 331x200x250=16.55L dimension (online) 336x200x283=19.02L

@Kokinkun Ай бұрын

Online dimension accounts for the feet and handle, the mentioned dimensions are just for the case itself.

@LCJammer Ай бұрын

needs vented side panel and the pigtail power cord is a let down. you can't tell me there isn't enough room to mount it to the case lol. was interested but thats a no for me oh well

@zhardy323 Ай бұрын

i wonder how much gpu space is lost by recessing the rear i/o. i like the design alot minus the handle, but that clearance isnt even enough for my 6950xt nitro +

@GrainGrown Ай бұрын

*a lot "alot" isn't a word *isn't

@lawlsaucemgee7849 Ай бұрын

"Aktually the case is rectangular" 🤓🤓🤓. lol but anyway shits fresh!

@dabidflor9563 Ай бұрын

gear seekers was able to fit 4090 fe without any issue, i watched his full review that front panel IO can be taken off for easier gpu install, but he also said a 240mm rad was not possible and you showed it is which is a huge plus for me definitely will be getting one.

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

Yup, fits on spec. The IO cables are needlessly a burden in the gpu section but as long as you can manage them well it’ll be OK. 240 is fine but something like the PL240 flux with a low profile pump is best.

@dabidflor9563 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply! and noted will definitely keep that in mind@@MachinesMore

@HellOnFourLegs Ай бұрын

I'm itching to put a custom hardline loop inside that model as soon as I get the chance, brainwash some customer I guess? xD it might not be the easiest... but not impossible

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

The pump choice will be critical since there’s a height requirement next to the radiator. I am thinking of doing it, probably separate pump/res will be needed since a standalone cpu block might be needed to clear.

@MachinesMore Ай бұрын

@payamshirazi5026 Ай бұрын

@thebritishviking Ай бұрын

Mate... i'm so sorry to say this but that's actually a rectangle

@mawandaeed Ай бұрын

So much dust

@skullcracked 9 күн бұрын

do u live in the desert or something

@FrodeBergetonNilsen Ай бұрын

It is too wide. For that width, it should be an mATX case. It also have no cable mangement, as everything is stuffed in the open. I don't get the glass, as you only reveal ugly. Also, they are this close to get to a place of pure mesh, and thus to get rid of them case fans, but somehow, they even miss that. That psu needs to go behind the mb, for this design language to work. This is just a stuffed turkey, that do not work for extreme mesh or glass. It does how ever make my job easier. This is a working case that sort of shows what can be done by sheet metal production techniques using my designs. There is just such a lack of vision and innovation, but for once, they actually made a case with a cooler, that actually gives a somewhat meaningful artistic expression, not the best, but hey, they actually do. Sadly, they don't make parts based on it, they just iterate on what is already there. For this design, why is it not desktop oriented? That would improve GPU cooling, and there is no zag. I just don't get what these people are thinking?

@chrisbullock6477 Ай бұрын

305MM length so 99% of cards wont fit you have a 4090. Most AMD cards even 7900XTX and anything 4080 and under will fit.