How To Build An Online Community

How To Build An Online Community - Jay Clouse

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If you’re active in the creator space you’ll probably be familiar with the name Jay Clouse. Jay is the founder of Creator Science, a media company specialising in helping creators build businesses around their brands. In this episode, we delve into his membership community "The Lab," discussing everything from its inception to its revenue generation. Jay also shares some tips to make Productivity Lab a success! Enjoy the conversation.
00:00 Intro
1:01 How Jay started
7:15 The history of “The Lab”
9:55 Community vs content
15:35 About Productivity Lab
25:45 The challenges
33:40 Jay’s approach to sales pages
36:30 Price: to cap or not to cap
46:30 Higher ticket, lower volume?
52:40 How many people to bring into the community
1:02:40 Spaces within the community
1:07:05 Mistakes we can learn from
1:10:00 Giving recurring value
1:21:00 The importance of a good first experience
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@DeepDivewithAliAbdaal 3 ай бұрын

I hope you enjoyed this episode! And thank you to YNAB ( www.ynab.com/abdaal ) and Trading 212 ( trading212.com/promocodes/ALI ) for sponsoring!

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@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for having me on the show! Excited to see you guys crush it with Productivity Lab 🙏

@CreatorWizard 3 ай бұрын

Two legends choppin it up!!!!!!!! Absolutely stellar gents

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

thanks man!

@AlexJ1 3 ай бұрын

Did you know that the podcast was going to be a free consultation call? 😅

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

@@AlexJ1 I did - and I was happy to do it. Now that same conversation can help thousands of others - that's leverage!

@AlexJ1 3 ай бұрын

@@CreatorScienceYT Okay good to know! It wasn't set up that it was going to be so specific to Ali's business, so I thought you were maybe just being a good sport. But I'm glad it was all kosher. And super valuable! It always helps to have a live example to use for these types of conversations anyway. Allows you to get way more specific than just "Here are the benefits of building a community". In fact, this conversation has convinced me that I absolutely do not want to have a community. So I consider that a big win ☺️

@Tragicomique 3 ай бұрын

It's best whem the split screen is on even if guest/host is not talking. Seeing expressions of the second person is really important to feel the flow of the conversation. But regardless of it, great talk!

@leadgenjay 3 ай бұрын

The conversation about community versus content is spot on. Remember that engagement is key for entrepreneurs looking to build a membership community.

@sam-browne 2 ай бұрын

"Lower ticket customers have higher expectations than high ticket customers". Correct. Strange but true.

@solar.andrea Күн бұрын

I feel like people with less money are a lot more careful in how they spend it, so they have to keep justifying their expenses, meaning their choice MUST be the right one, or they just wasted money they could’ve used for something else 🤷🏻‍♀️

@SteveBubel 3 ай бұрын

🤯 That might be the most valuable video I've ever watched on KZfaq. Thank you Ali and Jay!

@jansenkp1 3 ай бұрын

Wow Jay fully delivers on his promise of being THE EXPERT on paid communities. Such a helpful episode!

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@quizotik 2 ай бұрын

@@CreatorScienceYT Do you have written materials on this topic that we can consume? I mean books and blog posts. Thanks!

@lauriexwang 3 ай бұрын

Jay is the gold standard on building community and loved his point of saturation of memberships and I think designing the community built with engagement and connection is the key. 🙌Love this with two of my favourite creators.

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

thanks for watching!

@AlexJ1 3 ай бұрын

I like how he uses "participation" instead of "engagement". Way more human-focused, less metric-focused.

@DariaLucchesi 3 ай бұрын

I don't think anyone really knows how technical this advice is. Jay is a wizard and his perspective into community is taking the route of more build a software and EVERY little thing that goes into it. The whole "how do I make this recurring" is literally the key to any great product (and biz) is building defensibility within it. You don't hear all the technical one liners cause he makes them so easy to understand. He's richard feynman'ing the shit out of this call. And I'm only half way in.

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

🥹🙏 very kind of you!!

@RantPocalypse 2 ай бұрын

If Ali’s team reads this, Jay nailed it for me: I’m a lifetime corporate marketing employee - I care about productivity to be more efficient in my corporate role to hopefully allow me more freedom to pursue outside hobbies or passions that could potentially generate additional revenue sources. Great chat and insights as always 🙏

@AlexJ1 3 ай бұрын

And this, folks, is how you wrangle a free consultation call from Jay Clouse 😂

@jacobmorres9817 3 ай бұрын

just an fyi since u didn't realize, theres always a win win when creators collab lol

@SarahMcAshan 3 ай бұрын

Great point about gamification creating busy work--I hate gamification for that reason. Please don't waste my time with all that; I want to focus on people and their ideas! Thanks for the interesting conversation. It's fascinating watching Ali learn in real time--I like this new format! As long as there are clear chapter titles as you've done here, the longer, freeform conversation format is great and makes the most of KZfaq longform.

@DrSamreenAshraf 3 ай бұрын

Building community is a basic human instinct yet we are just waking up to this. Very interesting discussion :)

@e.maeve.m 3 ай бұрын

I was literally looking for a Jay Clouse membership interview yesterday and this is the most perfect timing - I can’t even. I can’t wait till my day-job meetings are over so I can watch thiiiis! Thank you Ali and Jay!

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@TheProfessionalCleaner 3 ай бұрын

2 of my favs, and I love how part of it felt like a coaching call for Ali... great convo! (EDIT: it was a coaching call LOL... even better!)

@InspiringBusiness-MarkBullock 3 ай бұрын

I just wanted to say thank you both Ali & Jay! This is truly invaluable content for community founders and leaders such as myself. The authenticity, generosity and willingness to share your wisdom Jay, and the vulnerability and openness into how you are thinking about community Ali was priceless!

@lapalma1928 3 ай бұрын

Jay did such a great job on this coaching session with Ali that now I’m really interested in learning more about the services his organization offers. Great sales job without selling! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@AdilConstantineMusic 2 ай бұрын

Honestly this is the best video found on KZfaq about building a community membership. Thank you Ali and Jay, big fan of both of you guys ❤

@MeetKevon 2 ай бұрын

28:00 that insight is so good!

@elliejeanroyden 3 ай бұрын

This was such a helpful podcast for me as someone building a Substack community. Focusing on the RESULT rather than content when marketing was such an important message; I’m in the early stages and keep going back on forth on what I want to actually provide- if I focus on the promise i won’t have to worry so much when a change needs to be made! 🤯

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Yes!

@aubreyquinney5157 3 ай бұрын

I agree on the deliverables not being set in stone part my reaction was “ohhhhh” and then wished Jay had a book where everything was centralized lol

@paulaCvenecia 3 ай бұрын

17:33 😊❤ Excellent idea. You know, I work in a call centre and have been thinking about how to improve it. Big biz and big accounts are all fine and dandy but products like the one described here, could have a mini pelotón of reps calling people to check up on them and helping them troubleshoot. And there's a model here in Colombia 🇨🇴 for that, with an Online University they call you 2 times per week and check how are you doing. I bet this model could even decrease ADHD adverse impact on people's life 😉.

@mattng4707 3 ай бұрын

Yes having a group or people to keep you accountable

@sidthewanderlustchefc6127 3 ай бұрын

Perfect timing, I was just speaking to my coach about my plans for building a community.

@ChristianMillionaire 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Ali for exhibiting a great level of humility and vulnerability in this interview amen. James

@SigmaFeminine 2 ай бұрын

the vagueness in the delivery promise thing is so true bc when people join they will have their own ideas of how they will use the community content no matter what it ends up being specifically

@gwcpas 3 ай бұрын

This was great to see you both just think and iterate on camera. Has me thinking through this for my own firm now

@Lewis502 3 ай бұрын

This content was GOLD. Jay reminds me of a that person in corporate I can connect with and share valuable nuggets back and forth that’s intentional and thoughtful. Thanks for sharing the great insights. 🔥

@KameTrick 2 ай бұрын

28:52 I had the **exact** same thought at the exact same time as you did here, Ali. 100% would have fallen into that trap. THANK YOU for having this conversation with Jay and posting it for us all to learn from. 1/3 of the way through and already such massive value.

@nnaenae 3 ай бұрын

Amazing show. So much value.

@thehealthhustle 3 ай бұрын

Pure gold, thanks fellas.

@CreatorWizard 3 ай бұрын

Such a fascinating listen, thanks guys!!

@ChristianMillionaire 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting... Skool & Sam in mind and your guest etc it seems like businesses ie communities are a bit of a reflection of the founders themselves concerning onboarding, features etc. Very interesting.

@tararathmoeut47 3 ай бұрын

I love this video! So much I have learned ❤❤❤❤

@Filhodanuvem 2 ай бұрын

The conversation on this video is gold… actually, it’s diamond 💎.

@dominikliss 3 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I needed to hear right now 😊 And I'm very happy to learn that Jay has been working behind the scenes on spi pro 👍 I was one of the very first members in this community back in the days ...

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Full circle moment!

@RobertRodriguezMusic 3 ай бұрын

This is such a great conversation! 🎉

@quotedvisually 2 ай бұрын

A value-packed episode! Thank you, Jay & Ali 🔥

@LaurenAngela_aufDeutsch 3 ай бұрын

I literally just started a community and have 4 members lol this video is FOR👏ME👏 can’t wait to watch it after I get my YT video all good to go for tomorrowwwwww

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@dennisk4783 4 күн бұрын

Great episode. Very timely for me since I'm looking at kicking off my own community in the next 3 months. I heard Jay mention Circle which is my top choice right now. I'm looking at Heartbeat as well.

@the_evanshank Ай бұрын

man... this was PACKED with great info - Jay de knows what he's talking about with this. 🙂

@orbitforcreators 3 ай бұрын

🍀 Great conversation at just the right time!

@threecatsdancing 3 ай бұрын

People want to see the emotional benefits on the sales page, not the technical list of features. You get a lot of flexibility in how your product evolves if you didn't promise weekly this and monthly that, as long as you're providing the benefit to the customer that you promised. At least, that's what I've learned from all the marketing gurus I follow. LOL I So have to figure out how to implement it and get my own community started. 😬

@hnnhml 3 ай бұрын

Uuh this sounds like an interesting conversation 👏🏻👏🏻

@Mathsaurus 3 ай бұрын

Thanks - two of my inspirations here - pleased to have made it to the Lab a month before it filled up and also grateful for Ali's videos which were quite influential on my approach as I started making online courses. P.S. I think in the chapter titles you've written 'Joe' instead of 'Jay'!

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

hey hey good to see you here Kevin!

@LarsTiger 2 ай бұрын

Holy cheeseballs. That was a great episode. Thank you.

@theverasilva 2 ай бұрын

Just had a genius business idea while listening to this podcast, amazing work guys, thank you ❤

@campfyreco 13 күн бұрын

This was so good! Can't believe it's out here for free.

@QuianaCanforDumas Ай бұрын

Great video!!!

@SigmaFeminine 2 ай бұрын

I want to join productivity lab not to double my productivity but to help me focus on a project until it is created and operating well. I have so many projects going at once. I think many people who would join would be like that, not wanting 2x productivity but wanting a place/way to focus their energy and not procrastinate from overwhelm. The community shared working time would be a huge part of that.

@myadvisor 3 ай бұрын

Nice production quality! How did you record the interview?

@lucasppopaj 3 ай бұрын

Thanks

@GatewayGarden267 3 ай бұрын

Ali taking notes the whole time - he was totally trying to figure out how to build his community the whole time - you can see his wheels turning in his head - some of the pauses - you could tell he was thinking more about himself rather than moving the interview forward.

@quizotik 2 ай бұрын

I will cut Ali some slacks. He might have used any of our businesses as a case-study. Making reference to his project did increase the odds of getting more practical answers from Jay. My thought!

@EmanualCriativo 3 ай бұрын

The minute 28:00 is mind blowing O:

@RantPocalypse 2 ай бұрын

Feels like you should have called the Productivity Lab, the Accountability Club.

@intentionalleader_calwalters 2 ай бұрын

Jay / Ali, what are your thoughts on the pros/cons of building a community on Kajabi? It sounds like Circle is Jay’s preferred platform (and I appreciated the thoughts on Skool), but I’d love to get your perspective on Kajabi. Thanks!

@Muhammad_BinImran 3 ай бұрын

Perfect

@uzplaylists 3 ай бұрын

Hey Ali what are you using to record the podcast?

@JiaFit 3 ай бұрын

Commenter number 10 🙌

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

I see you 👏

@bahram_t 3 ай бұрын

i’m glad Jay is finally getting a chance to share his story. He’s more often on the other side of the table, hearing other folks backgrounds and ideas. Great to see that flip. Keep it up Mr. Clouse 🫡

@CreatorScienceYT 3 ай бұрын

thanks for the love!

@TheProductPup 3 ай бұрын

This was incredibly insightful - wondering if there is still a space for paid slack communities? What do people think?

@JonMorrow 3 ай бұрын

There are many. In general though, everyone reports preferring skool or circle.

@SigmaFeminine 2 ай бұрын

the 2x productivity thing seems like an unnecessary specific promise 😂 also for me a promise that i would complete projects, rather than just 2x my productivity, is a lot more valuable and I would pay more

@ChristianMillionaire 3 ай бұрын

Perfect example Ali... You are here seeking people to connect with through interviews... community.

@neil_shap 3 ай бұрын

The wave towards community is because most people have realized courses aren't enough to get you results.

@jeremiahmaryland 2 ай бұрын

Algorithm gods do your thing

@user-br6lj5vi9n Ай бұрын

Their are no subtitles damn

@OreApampa 3 ай бұрын

Viewer number 3 😊

@SimGunther 3 ай бұрын

Something about the phrase "Profitable Community" sounds dystopian...

@tiernanking6596 3 ай бұрын

Ali should interview Kapil Gupta but, in the style of Lex Friedman....

@otonielh.f.7048 3 ай бұрын

Ali seemed annoyed with whatever was going on outside of the frame. Too much glacing over.

@geeadventures 3 ай бұрын

Courses courses courses courses…

@BenjaminEwt 3 ай бұрын

iron your shirtsss

@TonyOrtizPNW 3 ай бұрын

This was a whole lot of nothing..

@pedroSoldit Ай бұрын

@creatorscienceyt would you recommend to build an audience before launching a community?

@ShondaD_ 3 ай бұрын

@aliabdaal and @CreatorScienceYT what are your thoughts for people who would like to build an online community from scratch, I mean an absolute beginner?

@JonMorrow 3 ай бұрын

The first step is to question whether your topic is something where people like communities or actually dislike them. Harley-Davidson people love communities. But communities around a standing desk? Screwdrivers? Obviously not. The point is, Ask yourself, would I be willing to pay for a community around this? If the answer is yes, step two is look at all of the existing communities and figure out if they are growing and if they are doing everything they should be. If they are big but not run very well, then it's a great opportunity