@@Vuyosaysomethinstrange shock that doesn't make you call for help but undress
@ivanfaught99977 ай бұрын
@@Vuyosaysomethin oh please. Get real.
@ivanfaught99977 ай бұрын
@@pioneer5691 exactly.
@thembelakhuzwayo5477 ай бұрын
If he arrived at the park one minute after Kluyts, and was following her, and then left a park after 10 minutes,. He is the one who murdered the deceased, if not, he must have seen a murderer.
@ivanfaught99977 ай бұрын
He was wearing the victims clothes. No innocent man dresses in a victims clothes.
@athenjiwemdumata13577 ай бұрын
Aibo here I am thinking they are disputing someone who arrived hours later
@mafungwashekumkanikazi26567 ай бұрын
People react differently to situations but finding a corpse and undressing it to wear the clothes? Haikhona..
@lindalolly63187 ай бұрын
When they see us story, is different from this , those USA guys were not seen wearing the clothes, that Bafana boy has so much in his closet . He knows what happened there
@mthokozisilanga44977 ай бұрын
In “When they see us”, no person is arrested wearing the clothes of the deceased, we need to be clear on that.
@dikeledihlabangane38547 ай бұрын
The defense should insist on investigating everyone captured by the cctv
@nqobilemaqubela77527 ай бұрын
I don’t think the gravity of this has sunk in to this guy, Sib. He really thinks he’s gonna get away with everything. I’m not a body language expert but you’d expect to see him devastated even if he didn’t do anything. I mean you’d expect a lot regret, remorse for not reporting the matter. He mentioned he watches these crime and ER stories so he thinks he’s safe. He’s giving Karabo Mokoena’s perpetrator. Not to discriminate but black people ubuntu. Growing up in the hood, he’s first instinct would be to report the dead body right away. The fact that he violated the corpse by undressing is disgusting and demonic. What I also think is that maybe he was paid to do so because this lady was pregnant but baby daddy is unknown. Maybe he was hired the BD and now he’s denying coz he was paid a large same of money. I’m not a lawyer but I don’t see him charged for murder.
@pioneer56917 ай бұрын
According to the resources she has done IVF, an egg is removed from the woman's ovaries and fertilised with sperm in a laboratory. The fertilised egg, called an embryo, is then returned to the woman's womb to grow and develop. He doesn't have a remorse, and insight on how serious is the crime,
@SiyabongaButhelezi-lf3xo7 ай бұрын
This bum killed the lady and had her clothes on him as a trophy he must get life in prison
@ENewsMzansi7 ай бұрын
Aaai it’s tough to call at this moment
@maqhawepreyer7097 ай бұрын
You can't compare the two
@phindiweb76887 ай бұрын
I'm also confused. There is nothing about this case that is similar to the series "when they see us" Stop romanticizing shit
@athenjiwemdumata13577 ай бұрын
Thank you for the movie review but in this case every single thing leads to that boy, can they assess him for psychopathy?
@myrahtshabalala54737 ай бұрын
Interesting, thought provoking indeed, will apply my mind however what's intriguing is the wearing of the deceased clothing
@sihlesihle68387 ай бұрын
& there is nothing special about T-shirt yooh
@myrahtshabalala54737 ай бұрын
I now think that even though the whole story is bizarre but his explanation for some reason make sense for a person in shock & with little understanding of the law
@en15757 ай бұрын
@@sihlesihle6838there is according to the accused,he undressed her so that nothing links him to the deceased ,by doing so he was destroying the evidence ,so yes there was something special about this particular t-shirt.
@nhlanhlatnz146 ай бұрын
Who does that? Wear a dead body's t-shirt??
@myrahtshabalala54736 ай бұрын
@@nhlanhlatnz14 with shock, anything is possible
@kekethekoeng7 ай бұрын
Comparing this to 'When They See Us' e nale bo propaganda nyana 🤨
@nobuhlemathenjwa717 ай бұрын
Oooooh yes when they see us it very touching these boys being in a park at the wrong time but it different from this case..this Bafana boy story is actually absurd and his explaination sounds like a phsyco shame
@BonganiMagadu7 ай бұрын
I dont know whether he is guilty or not One thing is definite though, he is definitely NOT RIGHT UPSTAIRS Very few people woukd be as cocky as he is under the circumstances yet he tries to bluster his way out of proceedings and he does come across as arrogant To ME he appears guilty
@TamaraCanham7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and his attitude really won't help his case.
@ncumisasigcawu71447 ай бұрын
❤mikkplp
@BonganiMagadu7 ай бұрын
@@ncumisasigcawu7144 what's that mean 🥺🥴
@keneiloemyoli7 ай бұрын
When they see us was toooo painful to watch 😢
@luciamatsabe69897 ай бұрын
He likes jokes and his jokes got him here. He's a comedian and he doesn't take anything serious
@cotton39127 ай бұрын
I am in a strange place and apparently lost for some reason and Im just roaming around and perfectly sane ...I see a dead body and take off the clothes and wear those clothes.
@thndythemedtech21437 ай бұрын
Tagging in siblings being the first one to comment The first time I saw a news clip on Facebook about this case I thought to myself he guilty But after hearing this testimony I’m not sure anymore I think different people react differently to shock. I hope there is enough DNA to determine if he is guilty or not
@ENewsMzansi7 ай бұрын
Likewise sib, thank you and merry Christmas to you and yours ❤️
@kha60687 ай бұрын
How can you find a random dead body, undress it and wear its clothes?
@user-md1bp9se3b7 ай бұрын
Is there a possibility of showing the whole cctv of that day instead of selective parts for us to get a clear picture of what really transpired that day. Thanx for the lates summaries but we are looking foward for more.
@ivanfaught99977 ай бұрын
That will only be shown in court
@IAmChosen99257 ай бұрын
This truly reflects Bafana's story
@finabond89267 ай бұрын
Definitely his the person, who knows what happened to this lady, you can't find a body undressed it and walk away not saying anything about it.
@paulinahpalesa3257 ай бұрын
Exactly how would you undress someone u dont know and wear their clothes? Why not call the police rather than disposing her clothes haibo
@giftmuchineuta68777 ай бұрын
kunzima
@waronammemo64247 ай бұрын
If you ask me I say someone else did this. Someone did this and we will find out!!
@en15757 ай бұрын
tomorrow the 29th of December the bail trial continues ,hopefully there will be a positive development for all parties involved .
@hers_sibo7 ай бұрын
I hope the real truth will come out soon.
@mimincube20117 ай бұрын
This case nothing to do with inequality and does not relate to "when the see us".
@zaka39567 ай бұрын
He's guilty let's not lie
@ntuthukomkhize17047 ай бұрын
The attorney is weak. The way he did bail was poor. Placed the accused in a cross fire from prosecution. Alot of evidence the law should have protected and left it for the state so lead.
@MotherOfBlackStars7 ай бұрын
You are correct hun, but our speculation should be logical.
@mlamulimoyo7 ай бұрын
Very complicated.and where is the Rug or whatever he claims was covering her body?
@EnzoEnzo-it7vt2 ай бұрын
He thought the tshirt was a rag… he took it off her and wore it…
@yayaamlala88757 ай бұрын
He knows something, someone please scrutinize this boy careful, the puzzle doesn't add up
@pioneer56916 ай бұрын
It's not the first time he appears in court with a similar case, in 2022 he followed a lady with her 8 yrs, forcing to enter her door not knowing her boyfriend was upstairs, he had to call the security guard, he came back in the evening very aggressive to an extent of breaking the security guards mobile phone, expensive pair of spectacles n damaged the property, his father said he'll pay for damages and he never instead he blocked the security guard, to escape that Bafana said he is relocating to Mpumalanga and the court interdict was opened for Bafana, the lady was in shock as she was informed by the security at the complex that Bafana has another case similar to hers,
@sthembilemdluli39097 ай бұрын
i ran to Netflix to watch "when they see us" im angry and hurt.
@en15757 ай бұрын
my kids have seen this series prior to this case,they were always talking about it,when i told them about this case,in asking them what would they have done,if they found themselves in a similar situation ,they said this similar to what happened to "when they see us"in bafana's case though ,the undressing and wearing is a huge red flag .
@tholakelesibanda49757 ай бұрын
Tell us more, what happened in the series, um so scared bathong
@petauification7 ай бұрын
These references to the issue of wrongful conviction is not warranted. Where no prejudice has been shown to the accused we should not talk about it. I t irritates me whwn the race pcars is played without cause.
@Muhle0077 ай бұрын
I can see how there could be similarities but the are more differences to this case for us to compare to two. Im not saying he didn't do it but this boy did something or knows someone, his story is to crazy to just except only on the basis that hes black and im black and the victim is white.
@mmeme58617 ай бұрын
I don't care about his character....he is just wicked....evil....
@user-cw7fu6cw1w6 ай бұрын
This case is very complex. Its going to get us talking. I dont think the boy intended to kill ms Kluyts, but as soon as he had realised what had happened he acted out of character. I guess also if he didn't do it, he definitely saw the killer.
@lwazief7 ай бұрын
When they see us😢
@siviwembatane36007 ай бұрын
Where's the video, and I just confused about this case, DNA just confused me worse...
@LollyMadikiza-xw4ok7 ай бұрын
@sive...🤣🤣🤣
@siviwembatane36007 ай бұрын
Suddenly you'll hear, the boy makes a confession volunteering statement, Bro Gininda you'll took over 😂😂😂
@sqrd35367 ай бұрын
A movie and reality are two different things. It appears he targeted her to rob her. He probably didn't expect her to fight back, so the inevitable happed. We have youngsters who live a materialistic lifestyle they can't afford. Good luck they don't find his bodily fluids on her body! Everybody has to be treated fairly even the victim. Each case and every country's legal system is different.
@thobekatamera7 ай бұрын
The movie is based on real stories, just for clarity sake
@gcwalisile9322 ай бұрын
You are right and a lot happened as she fought so he dicided to wear her T shirt so he could come up with such a senseless story incase he needed to answer about the DNA
@hildamonama93977 ай бұрын
Sibs I don't hv coment we will c nxt week seriously don't know what to believe 😊😊😢
@user-dr3ob1pr8x6 ай бұрын
I think they also need to check their cctv on what happened before the boy reached the scene
This case is soo confusing. This guy doesn't know this woman, DNA proved that he didn't Grape her, he didn't steal her belongings even the ones he took he threw away. So what was the motive? I'm just confused
@makhosinidube79507 ай бұрын
I think they are teaching us to mind our own business 😅😅😅😅
@noziqhamovokwana88267 ай бұрын
Could be a hit
@elvinnybonjovi107 ай бұрын
Those that he threw away he stole them.
@user-zi5tf4dy9q7 ай бұрын
He is be witched😢😢 no one can do such a stupid thing like that ...the must question the husband or boyfriend too 😮
@freethinker11677 ай бұрын
@@user-zi5tf4dy9q are you sure
@kganetsokatse5896 ай бұрын
His confidence, I bet he has done this before & got away with it
I think somewhere somehow, hes not guilty. Theres someone there , and we will know very soon
@victorvertuin39426 ай бұрын
Even a fool now qill think is not guilty after finding out he has a case for trying to force himself into a woman's house...Thank God she had a man in the house.
@umadumawangempela60986 ай бұрын
I think st this stage cctv cameras must be accessed and know exactly what happened here because this story is not make sure
@prudysizo51777 ай бұрын
I feel he is not guilty where is the weapon and how could u possibly kill a stranger
@MotherOfBlackStars7 ай бұрын
Your last statement is ridiculous. Clearly you don’t watch true crime.
@prudysizo51777 ай бұрын
@@MotherOfBlackStars it's my opinion dear no need to be harsh cz we all speculating no one knows the truth at this point
@_theerealnono_76947 ай бұрын
There are literally plenty of people who get killed by strangers though.
@pearls.92774 ай бұрын
Comparing this to the Central Park 5 (who were proven innocent) is seriously niave and misguided. This man is guilty and not amount of long Netflix trailers you include can detract from that. He needed serious psychological help long before this, he's not normal.
@vjchabane97957 ай бұрын
Is the Narrator Lelo !
@katlegobonoko45126 ай бұрын
Was the ladie mudererd or collapsed n ddnt get help faster n died on her own just asking nje dont know much bout the case did tgey examine the body to check cause of death ?
@sifisodube46867 ай бұрын
This boy bafana he murdered the lady we are not fools
@katlegoeluw85567 ай бұрын
How's is this classified as entertainment news?
@rudzanikharivhe62945 ай бұрын
This is my sib speaking muc
@thandekile57027 ай бұрын
I think the lady has fainted .
@adelaidea35517 ай бұрын
I think so too,she fainted
@katlegobonoko45126 ай бұрын
I thot of that too she might hv heard attacks but so as u know his bkack person at the wrong place 😢
He had a huge crush on her, & she led him on. He bought her the T shirt, he killed her & took the T shirt he bought for her.
@nompumelolo7 ай бұрын
evil
@luciamatsabe69897 ай бұрын
As they say they knew each other and he visited her coupla times.🤷
@danisilemasina33407 ай бұрын
Something happened between them before I'm sure, why DNA on clothes if they were not together, I think that DNA is conducted using hair, scent maybe saki or saliva aai don't know Nami but ikhona indaba phakathi kwabo
@petroguilherme55496 ай бұрын
IMHO ......he did it but reason vague😊but getting her undressed and wearing her shirt is unbelievable No one of sober mind will do such
@nofacekiller82874 ай бұрын
Simple he had no money & missed his stop je probably tried to rob the lady but she fought back & he killed her ... There's a story where he took a ladies beer without even asking so it shows his character
@nompumelolo7 ай бұрын
this is awful
@makhosinidube79507 ай бұрын
I suspect that they knew each other
@user-np4hk3ue7r7 ай бұрын
That's what i thought as well..
@makhosinidube79507 ай бұрын
@@user-np4hk3ue7r yeah, there's more to this
@sihlesihle68387 ай бұрын
Maybe he had a huge crush on her
@Thatsong-fr9nq7 ай бұрын
Where is the boyfriend
@BonganiMagadu7 ай бұрын
Why do you suspect they knew each other 🙄🥴🥺
@englishwithnolly.43407 ай бұрын
Why put on her clothes?
@ENewsMzansi7 ай бұрын
That’s the hectic part
@terinunes6047 ай бұрын
If you see a dead person you will be traumatized you won't touch that body he wasn't homeless he did not need the clothes
@katlooromeng7887 ай бұрын
HE WATCHED ANIME? 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@nomarussia50857 ай бұрын
And the joker apparently he loves that movie
@christineehlers11327 ай бұрын
Ethnic animal
@nokwandasbiya64627 ай бұрын
This case is soo confusing. This guy doesn't know this woman, DNA proved that he didn't Grape her, he didn't steal her belongings even the ones he took he threw away. So what was the motive? I'm just confused
@QueenZan7 ай бұрын
Hi Nokwanda... Merry Xmas, long time not seeing you on these streets .
@nokwandasbiya64627 ай бұрын
@@QueenZan lol lol Merry Christmas, I was a bit busy
@trucklord39017 ай бұрын
Bro Is innocent, the only wrong thing he did was wearing the clothes which he later threw away. I’ve listened to he’s testimony he’s talking sense.
@LollyMadikiza-xw4ok7 ай бұрын
@@trucklord3901i thought of seeing a dead po erson lying der is scary,so where does dis bro get de guts 2 undress de dead body&taking his shirt???i think he killed her,he is guilty.