Damn that's wild

how many HS runners have done it from 2010-2020?

@@vinanoir around 10 i believe

That is nuts....I was a runner in HS, not even close to these guys and the young women also Let's just say I am humbled .....thuis is awesome to see 👍

True! And three of those four were in the three years from '64-67. Then a thirty three year drought till Webb in 2001.

Fr

I was thinking the same thing. 4:18 and he finished last? Imagine the times for everyone else. It was a fast mile.

Wait isnt that Devan Kipyego??

@@lapapar1174 yeah lmao

@@lapapar1174 Yep! Last ☹

@@lapapar1174 yeah i think he’s run 4 flat before too

Absolutely! Put these kids in a pro race with Inglebritsen and they may run a bit faster, but probably not 3:53.x

Indeed!

@@JohnDoe-dn8yh Ingebrigtsen is way too fast for these guys. or did you mean his oldest brother?

W Birnbaum

Seriously! Could have run a second race in that time.

I can understand why he did it though. According to expectations his track season was not very good. He didn't compete in the state / classic meets. Didn't hit times he said he would. It felt like Tinoda Matsatsa took the season Sahlman was supposed to have. 800m - 1:48, mile - 3:58. Actually Aaron should be even faster than that. So it's easy to see disappointment clouding his judgment.

You’d think parents or coach would dissuade him

As a former high school sprinter that fractured his foot in December of my senior year, two reasons an athlete would risk injury or compete injured is 1) they love competing that much and 2) they don't want to come across as ducking a big race and pointing to injury is the last thing any athlete wants to do. I lost a month of training, the foot never set correctly because I chose to not have a cast and my right foot hurt every time I pushed off it and starts were the worst. No athlete wants to compete at less than 100% and nothing humbles an athlete more than injury. You can be as positive as you want and try to ignore the pain and lack of conditioning but you feel them whether you want to or not. You feel the discomfort and your body does not respond the way you're used to it responding. Like kryptonite. I spent that entire season ready to quit but I was still faster than everyone but our two fastest guys so I felt obligated to trudge through the season as a sub-par version of myself and we got a CIF state meet plaque in the 440 relay. The bigger relief was that the season was over.

@@dpw181 i have a similar story too where I fractured my foot during my senior cross season. I raced my sectional race injured and qualified for state but in doing so made my injury far worse. I completely agree with you on injuries being the greatest humbler, and wanting to race to not want to duck a race. I went into state with no training and ran the most shameful embarrassing 17:50, barely able to finish on my foot, when I could’ve been in 15:30s shape. To this day my foot still bothers me, and if I could go back I would’ve ended my season as much as it would’ve hurt, and chosen my health over my ego. So I speak from experience too, Sahlman in this case has a huge future, no point to jeopardize it over a race that can come along again in the future

@@zk4761 so true

This probably will happen again

There were 5 that broke 4min last year too(2 were juniors). The 5th hs kid to sub 4 mile was in 2011. Kids are just getting stuuupidly fast

They say the shoes help subtract a couple seconds, but that’s far from a sufficient explanation. These kids are fast!

This is an example that this will happen again

Newbury Park high School in southern CA, their 4th best miler was a 4:02.

Same bro, I think he'll be the best athlete to ever come out of South Dakota

Not in the 800m

I’ve been watching a boy from Kenya that’s the same age as these boys. Reynold Cheruiyot. He ran two 1500 races in the last three weeks, each at 3:32 (3:48 equivalent mile). We are in for a rich future in middle distance racing the next ten years.

@@kevinkasp - That's a fabulous time. I think Birnbaum is capable of running much faster. He might be able to get Alan Webb's record if he gets an invite to The Prefontaine Classic. His kick is much better than his competition.

@@anthonymonaco1797 this aged well

@@anthonymonaco1797Leo young got out kicked 😂

Nike Outdoor Nationals has them plus Birnbaum.

In a 1,500m, Leo probably wins, although Birnbaum was impressive. For a 5k it will be close. It may end up tactical, but if it’s fast, I think 2 or 3 guys, Lex being one of them, have a shot to go sub 13:30.

You will see that. Connor Burns and Simeon Birnbaum and Dan Watcke (who won the 800m in 1:48 at this same track meet) have all committed to the University of Oregon, so they will be fighting it out against Lex and Leo for the next four or five years in the PAC 12 in cross country, indoors, and outdoors. It is interesting that we have five sub-four minute high schoolers all at the same, none of the are Lex or Leo, but Lex and Leo are the famous ones.

@@runnerspace in what event?

@@kevinkasp But we all know that Leo could go under 4, he just hasn't raced any miles for some reason. He ran 3:39 in the 15 so he could def break 4. Lex probably not tho but it makes sense bc he's training for the 5k

pros are thrilled to have him at that

Simeon didn-r brag an StL favorite

Great time! I still hope to run a sub 5 even though I'm old.

You and me got the exact same for the 1 mile, my best time was also 4:48 that was back in my high school in 1983.😲😌👍to see these athletes doing it in under 4 minutes is incredible!!!! 😲😁

Fr one of my favorite runners always giving it his all

Thats awesome

Yeah ok buddy. 15 seconds faster? Hell nah. Definitely the old tracks and shoes were slower but I’d say 5 seconds tops even factoring in better competition. I don’t think you understand the difference between 4:00 and 4:15. You’re telling me every high schooler 4:15 and faster back then would be sub 4 now? So how come there have not been 1000+ sub 4 high school milers in the last couple decades?

@@bigminecraft4076 I get what you're saying and you do have a compelling argument. However IMO, those old tracks, a combination of dirt, rock and crushed cinders, along with crappy running shoes (cleats were all they had), without a doubt made for much slower times. As a matter of fact, my cousin came from a very poor family and he didn't even have a decent pair of shoes to run in until my Father bought him a pair his senior season. I can only imagine what he would have accomplished if he had decent running gear and those amazing tracks that are in use today. So, if you look at several factors, better tracks, better shoes, coupled with an intense desire to win, or rather NEVER lose a race, then YES, I believe my cousin, if seriously challenged, would have easily broken 4 minutes. Have a great day........buddy. 😁

​@@robertbrown3471Coaching has a lot to do with it too. Did he have a good coach? He you are 60 years later still watching high school milers. That leads me to believe that your cousin left a major impression on you. If he ran 4:15 without a decent coach (along with the crappy tracks and the crappy shoes) I would at least say it was possible.

He helped bring the attention and the improvements followed. Your generation isn't losing any credit. Just gaining respect like Jordan, Bird, and Magic.

Ty

@@dpw181 chill out lol

Webb had to run against pros he way outclassed anybody in HS back in his day.

What video/interview is that on?

You saw how far ahead he was at 100 right? He had to slow it down because the kids couldn’t keep up with the prescribed pace. There are so many talented kids in this class, but none of them are at Webb’s level, at least not yet.

Can you explain to me the purpose and how a pacer works. This was on my recommended so I have no idea how these races work lol

@@Leeoh949 basically makes it easier for the runners to maintain pace in a fast/record attempt, and keeps time trials like this from devolving into slow, tactical efforts. Not that there’s anything wrong with a tactical race, but in non-championship events it’s kind of pointless and boring. Hope that helped

@@ThingSomeRandom so there is no pacer in non championship events?

@@Leeoh949 there’s almost never a pacer in championship events, because it’s against the rule set. The exception would be events like the Diamond League races, which aren’t really championship events anyway but hold a similar weight in terms of notoriety and prize money.

Only for elite races when there's a goal time someone is trying to hit. At the professional level, it's very common especially if they're going after some kind of record. But it's not something you'll see at an average high school or college meet. It's mostly a post season thing or a pro thing.

I actually volunteered to help a superstar on our HS team approach a 4 minute mile. I lasted less than 3 quarters... 🤐@@brandondaniels9471

It was today

Cry harder

@matthewbourgeois9839 Who is crying??? How on earth did you eisigete that out of my comment? I applaud these kids. I just think Ryun was better.

​@@pedalingparsonRyan was better. He would break the World Record 2 years after high school, will any of these kids do that..... NOOOO! You know what's up.

Tinoda is mentioned in the description wym?? 😭😭

He’s a 800 meter runner. Going to Georgetown next year. I saw his interview after the race. He was bubbly, he was so happy. He only thinks of himself as an 800 runner. His raw speed is better than milers. This race messed with his mind (in a good way) because, he said, he never gave running the mile much of a thought. But now, after doing this, he wondered, what if he actually trained for the mile?

Just the DJ, the pacer put a lot of effort in to help the lads along.

Sowinksi is the best pacer of all time... The kids couldn't keep up with 58/quarter so he slowed down

@@JohnDoe-dn8yh he didnt even try for a lap tho

hes the pacer

messed up knee

They mentioned it at the beginning, but he has a torn IT band and I'd imagine that's why he dropped out

@@eter8212 yea I don’t even know why he showed up? That first 600 or so must have hurt a LOT

So stupid

His right hamstring muscle locked up! But he'll be back and run faster than before this.😌😁👍

He went out too fast in the first two laps. Your not supposed to challenge the pacer. Regardless that kid is a stud. Sure he will contine to get better.

MIght be part of it. Some shoes have actually been banned from track. There is a phenomenon where once someone breaks a ceiling, everyone else sees it's possible and breaks through it as well. We've seen it with sub 4 minute miles and sub 10 second 100m. Both were once thought to be impossible.

He ran with a torn IT band

@@shire4897 crap, he probably should’ve not run at all. Further injury risk.

@@teacherhomieg true

can you run a 4:03 mile on a bad day?

i apologize on behalf of connor

​@@kylemreyid roll him in the 400m😂

@@Premium2-jh2xh what's your 400 time then?

@@Premium2-jh2xh what about 800 1600 3200 5k 8k or 10k?

That's not the least bit interesting.

That’s biology for you

The women’s world record was broken recently by a Kenyan who ran a 3:48 1500 meter time. Knocking on heaven’s door.”

bro what

I was thinking the same thing. The most amazing freak of nature woman in the history of billions of women was able to run a 4:12 in the mile. In just this race alone, 13 high school boys ran faster. Yet everyday we get the attempted gaslighting that if a guy wakes up, declares he’s a girl, there’s no issue with him competing as a girl.

I was thinking the same thing. The most amazing freak of nature woman in the history of billions of women set the World’s Record by running 4:12. In just this race alone, 13 high school boys ran faster. Yet everyday we get the attempted gaslighting that if a guy wakes up, declares he’s a girl, there’s no issue with him competing as a girl.

his goal isnt to race its to pace. I think looking back is completely fine. Even at my state meets the winners usually looked back a lot

@@chief7573 Fair enough (regarding pacer). My coach in H/S would have killed one of us for looking back too much.

4:16 is still fricken fast, even if he was last place, I respect that.😜🤨😲😲😁👍