A gentle, steady rain, accompanied by a moderate, constant breeze creates some of the finest deer hunting conditions I know, especially for still hunting.
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@Loukas812 жыл бұрын
100%
@juliannamcgill7626 Жыл бұрын
Only way to get a good blacktail, no rut hunts here🤣...I do renew my faith making trips back in rut with my camera😆
@hillbilly4christ638 Жыл бұрын
I have seen the biggest weariest bucks during these conditions. It can be uncomfortable if you are in the open but the conditions are in your favor. The biggest ones will have their noses to the ground trying to pick up scent.
@seanbalch75633 жыл бұрын
I enjoy hearing facts based on research. I’ve always disbelieved the moon phase junk, hunted the rain and pee out of my stand. I’ve also had numerous bucks/does under my stand scent checking my urine. Not once have they appeared nervous or busted me due to urine. Thanks Kip for stating what the research shows.
@Yettiattack Жыл бұрын
Urine turns into ammonia
@Iamthatguy01 Жыл бұрын
I was busted by two does as I was peeing in a bottle while in my tree stand. I never saw them, but they smelled me pretty quickly. SHHHEEW! SHHHEEW! And they were gone.
@theodoreB806110 ай бұрын
I have killed a few does within minutes of peeing from my Climber stand.. not a big issue.. just don't be seen peeing (movement)...lol
@favirefunnyfarm10433 жыл бұрын
When is the best time to deer 🦌 hunt...whenever you can go is the best time!
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@zzz7zzz93 жыл бұрын
Precisely. As long as one is in the woods, they have a chance. Guarantee you'll have zero success sitting at home. for some reason hunters are obsessed with highest odds days, etc. Just relax and get out there and enjoy the experiences. Deer are killed at all hours of the day, in all weather types, at all times of the season.
@rewadena43713 жыл бұрын
Um... Any day that ends in y!!
@DoctorSess3 жыл бұрын
@@zzz7zzz9 yeah except all the deer in my woods wait until whatever time I’m not out there
@frankberkbigler16213 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorSess that’s the same deal for me
@natetruth68282 жыл бұрын
A light all day rain has always been a good day of hunting for me
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Light rain events can certainly increase deer movement!
@jeffreyhorton82973 жыл бұрын
I have been a huge fisherman and hunter for a long time. I have kept a journal log of certain moon phases when I have caught a really large bass or killed a nice buck.I rarely see any deer after a full moon no matter what the weather conditions are. More than 75% of the time it was during a new moon or a small crescent moon and a few during the half-moon phase. It could just be a coincidence; however, I believe fronts definitely impact movement the most. This past year I killed a big 8 point during a new moon in November. It had been in the 60s all week and dropped to the high 30s that weekend. I saw 7 deer before I harvested the 8. I enjoy hearing different experiences and opinions.
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
We do too! Thank you for sharing what you have experienced in your time in the woods!
@williamcroft99112 жыл бұрын
Dark NIGHTS!!
@nativestone15772 жыл бұрын
Deep sea fishing is terrible on the new moon phases. Was told by a captain of 60 years and 3rd generation fisherman. I also have fished enough to see that new moon equaled shity fishing. For cod and haddock off of Gloucester, Massachusetts. Interesting stuff. Thanks for your information.
@georgesakellaropoulos81622 жыл бұрын
A cold front definitely gets them moving.
@lawrencebarnes68933 жыл бұрын
When I shop for a hunting scent, I always look for New Car Smell. Deer love it.
@gunners41293 жыл бұрын
Clever.
@cindyholder80033 жыл бұрын
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@gunners41293 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what that means
@lawrencebarnes68933 жыл бұрын
@@gunners4129 He said it, right in the video. Maybe watch the video?
@gunners41293 жыл бұрын
He said "[[[[[[[" ?
@ruthless46452 жыл бұрын
Biggest buck I ever shot was right after I had a leak and then lite up a smoke. Deer in farm areas see and smell humans/machinery (farmers) all the time and become accustom to it. If a farmer is working a 200 acre field and he has to take a leak he aint driving the tractor all the way back up to the house then back out again LOL.
@notsoaveragejoeoutdoors94753 жыл бұрын
I’ve hunted for 30 yrs and it has always held true in my experience that the three days before the moon becomes full and the three days after a full moon I have seen a lot more deer than any other time
@patricksalazar74742 жыл бұрын
Yup moon sycle has always played a roll .maybe he can tag and study wild animals not fenced-in ones
@notsoaveragejoeoutdoors94752 жыл бұрын
@@patricksalazar7474 amen brother
@TomOnTheRun2 жыл бұрын
Anecdotal I say. Science dispels these myths. Believe what makes you confident. Lot's of overkill when it comes to hunting. I have coughed in the woods and 5 minutes later a deer pulls up and I'm on public land. Explain that.
@masato39812 жыл бұрын
@@TomOnTheRun Science can only confirm what's measured before it. Age-old hunting traditions hold water in the regions they originate from.
@Edward.Rippett. Жыл бұрын
Huh, I never knew that. Next season I'm gonna pay attention
@jimflys22 жыл бұрын
My second year hunting I peed early in the morning and then moved further back into some pines. About 60 yards from my pee. In an hour, 2 doe walked right up to that area. I got a mature 7 year old doe that the DNR aged for me by cutting too see the teeth. Maybe bucks are different, but old bladders don't make for a comfortable hunt unless you empty them.
@Intimidator823 жыл бұрын
I knew it!! I've been peeing in scrapes for years and have seen an increase in buck activity at the scrape. I think they come back more often trying to find the "other deer" that keeps peeing in his scrape. Thank you for this info, I'm going to go hunting tonight in the rain and give it a whirl
@lvanzant30742 жыл бұрын
That's how I start all my mock scrapes.
@schylerstone23202 жыл бұрын
I started pissing in the woods making mocks and we had three rubs on trees shortly after
@mastercly40312 жыл бұрын
@@schylerstone2320 ....I had to relieve myself the one morning during the rut and my boyfriend said go in that scrape. I did and no lie.... two mature bucks came strolling in around 7am and checked it out... he tagged the second buck. I was amazed !
@schylerstone23202 жыл бұрын
@@mastercly4031 i believe it 😉
@schylerstone23202 жыл бұрын
@@mastercly4031 prolly wishing he was there when u peed lol
@rx1hunter8963 жыл бұрын
Kip is the best...has always done his research and has helped hunters nation wide. 👍🙏🦌
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
Amen!! We’re thankful to have him work with us!
@coondogsoutdooradventures24842 жыл бұрын
Right on! 41 years of hunting and experience told me the same things. Sudden large Storms will drive deer to cover.
@jusnuts14433 жыл бұрын
I've peed in the woods less than 30 yards from where I was sitting. I've had deer come up to the spot 30 minutes later, sniff and continue on past me within shooting distance. I must say that it's usually does. But I'm equal opportunity. I'll take a big doe every time. Antlers are pretty, but don't make good stew.
@atthebrink743 жыл бұрын
They might not make good stew but you sure can stir the pot with them.
@jusnuts14433 жыл бұрын
@@atthebrink74 A big spoon works better. I still have my first buck's rack hanging out in the garage. A basket six point. Very nice hat rack. I hauled that bad boy home in 1986. The winter months were quite enjoyable. My Granny cooked up deer steaks, chicken fried and smothered in onions, as often as I asked. Funny, she knew how to cook venison, but didn't like eating venison.
@jusnuts14433 жыл бұрын
@MICHAEL York Tough too. As they say in my part of the country, "Tougher-n-Turkey lips."
@luketilley91373 жыл бұрын
No they don't. Antlers are as tough as Woodpecker lips!😎👍🤠
@jusnuts14433 жыл бұрын
@@luketilley9137 Chicken fried deer steak on my plate smothered in fried onions and mushrooms with mashed taters, topped with gravy, and green beans out of the garden is a most appealing sight to behold. And most pleasing to the taste buds! Make a person get religion quick! Can I hear an "Amen"??
@danielparker81893 жыл бұрын
“Give a man a fish, he can eat for a day; teach a man to fish, he’ll go broke.” - Rut Daniels, the legend
@gogitr89042 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@rogerjames27292 жыл бұрын
Facts
@mikeself49692 жыл бұрын
true nowadays
@JA-rc4uy2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 So true...
@jackmorris7677 Жыл бұрын
“Teach a man to fish he’ll never be hungry, shoot a carp with a bow you’ll starve “ also from Rut😂
@natetruth68283 жыл бұрын
A all day rain has always been my favorite time to hunt
@tmac31473 жыл бұрын
Whoever said the 30/30 isn’t a good gun for deer hunting either 1 can’t aim 2 was born year 2000 up
@kenseymour51523 жыл бұрын
30/30 is a great gun for deer hunting in my opinion
@tmac31473 жыл бұрын
It’s actually more than enough if a 243 will take one down
@outbackcountry5123 жыл бұрын
Old school calibers 30-30 , 303 British ,6.5x55 Sweedish , just name a few along with 30-06 these older calibers have harvested more game than all the fancy WSM OR WSSM calibers combined . I first hunted with .410 for my first buck , used 30-30 and 303 in my early yrs , went to 6.5x 55 shot 30-06 for decades now back to 6.5x55 sweede these cartridges are plenty to harvest white tails EDIT - Old school guns still rule as well , no plastic , all metal and wood , Mauser Action is dear to my heart , Damm reliable , I currently hunt with a Commercially made Mauser Action rifle with monte carlo stock all wood and steel in 6.5x55 , just something about a well crafted rifle on budget price , Check out Zastava Rifles won't be disapointed
@mr.fish12333 жыл бұрын
@@tmac3147 you’re completely right 4 seasons a goa I dropped a 165 3/8” bucks with my 243
@bobbyd44003 жыл бұрын
I took a moce 3 point blacktailed buck at 30 yards with the ol dirty thirty. He dropped right in his tracks range and shot placment 30 30 will take 🐻 dont under estimate
@jdorney702 жыл бұрын
Opening day for crossbow in Maine tomorrow. Can't wait to take a big ol pee from my stand. 🤣 Have a great season everyone.
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Lol!! Pee straight.. we mean.. shoot straight!! Good luck!
@davidrobins40252 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very instructive information.
@wdtaut56502 жыл бұрын
4:35 Fred Trost demonstrated, more than 25 years ago, that deer, including bucks, will investigate human urine the same way they check the urine of other deer.
@stevenmiller72673 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir... I peed 3 times today... you make me feel TOMARROW IS MY DAY LOL
@glorybound75992 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, thanks 🙏🏻
@JoeSyxpack2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we've been making scrapes with "home brew buck lure" for years. It works well to start a scrape.
@Docsjeff2 жыл бұрын
I do too.I’ve read to pee in the scrapes.
@davidgurry28813 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you
@BillytheKid2293 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@letsgobrandon7297 Жыл бұрын
Forget about Penn State, I researched it myself, I’m big on being scent free but urine won’t bother deer and could attract them. I just got done peeing one time after rattling, a buck came and the wind changed so he was downwind but I still got em with a bow on the ground. 100% coyotes are attracted to human pee. I went coyote hunting before with my friend, before we went into the woods we both urinated next to my car and when we came back there were coyote tracks going all around my car literally 1 foot away circling. Another thing I noticed through the years, I mostly hunt off the ground so when I get to say a big tree I clear a spot all the way around the tree from leafs and sticks incase I have to move around one side when a deer is coming. What I noticed is if I go back to that tree the next day there are deer tracks all over the bare spot I cleared. More than likely it’s due to deer having easy access to the soil. At first I was thinking it might be my cover spray (which it could) or salt coming off my body but the salt guess can’t be correct so it definitely has to do with getting at the soil. So a good tip is to clear small 3x3 ft soil patches by your stand. Not only will deer be attracted to it but it also acts as a cover scent because the smell of the soil is stronger than the smells of leafs and so on so it acts as a natural cover scent. But still got to be scent free unless you know exactly the trail the deer will take and your downwind...but that rarely happens where I hunt, deer use trails but if your calling or it’s the rut those buck can come from any direction and usually will if the area has any hunting pressure the buck will circle downwind. Reason I say forget about Penn State is because they do research on deer that have zero hunting pressure so test can be false
@anthonysantillo1358 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ,Great info.
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@michaeltubbs24932 жыл бұрын
Great Info Thank you for sharing!
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@f2foutdoors2 жыл бұрын
I have peed in scraps for over 25 years. Deer scrape it out. Best part is I never have to put the lid down.
@bsbrogreen57743 жыл бұрын
I've seen more bucks chasing does in New moons than full moons just my experience maybe I'm wrong but I'll stick to my own experiences.
@mattd84113 жыл бұрын
If that doe is hot it don't matter if its hot cold, wet, dry, full moon or whatever that bucks ready lol . Daylight to dark if you can set that long helps. Thanks for your video buddy be safe.
@daveshsb3 жыл бұрын
Good info! Thanks for sharing!
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@G33KC0R32 жыл бұрын
First of all i love how clear and educational your video is. Secondly, literally 4 days ago, (the day after the full moon) i peed behind my stand and killed a doe at dusk. So there you go on that. Ive already clicked the sub button.
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and the Sub!!
@mit00093 жыл бұрын
I went hunting in a thunderstorm, lighting, hard rain ect. It let up a little bit and 5 doe and a buck popped out out of blue. They were easily spooked though.
@goneflying1402 жыл бұрын
I went out on a morning hunt in early November this year. I sat down in my shack a few minutes before shooting hours, and a light rain started. I thought to myself "damn. I'm not going to see a thing now." 15 minutes later a nice big 8 pt. stepped out, and I had an 18 yard shot. I couldn't believe it!!! That was the earliest I ever got a deer in any season since I have been hunting. I have been missing out on the rain hunts because of that rumor. Tracking was difficult. Even though I started right after I shot him, the blood washed away quickly. Luckily he only went about 40 yards and I found him right away.
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it made a believer out of you! Cool story, and congrats on the buck!!
@goneflying1402 жыл бұрын
@@Whitetail_Properties Watching your video opened my eyes for sure! I am convinced that a lot of the things we hear as hunters are old wive's tales, or rumors designed to make us think we need to purchase scent lock clothing, deer urine, special camouflage and so many other products.
@mrsrex2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍
@mrsrex2 жыл бұрын
Seems like theirs about an hour window before a hard rain starts, and about the time it stops, when the deer really come alive!! I learned that from ole Roger tagline back in the 90s!!
@Brainchild69 Жыл бұрын
Good info!
@randydunmire2 жыл бұрын
Great advise.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
I used to bowhunt several different private land sites for a total of 70 sits a year. Wind direction & your route to & from your sitting place has alot to do with it. Hunting more evenings & throwing in a morning hunt here & there in a location which has different terrain as far as cover worked for me. Being clean & quiet along with less movement will also help your success. The rain & wind r big factors rather than temp & barometer. I've found 🧊 fishing has more to do with barometer imo. Walking during the rain & being setup in your 🌳 b4 the rain stops is a huge advantage. I had alot of success when the moon was between new & 1st quarter. Seemed to not have the effect on deer during the other phases. In fact the day after the 1st quarter moon all the way up to the time when the full moon is waning seem to affect the deer the same. However I've done a few full moon all day sits & have seen several animals like foxes moving @ high noon that I found interesting. Any way u can find a way to allow yourself to turn the odds in your favor slightly on a target animal is a good thing. But it's usually combining many different factors that all exist on one day that u must be out there. Like 2 years ago when Halloween was on Saturday the 31st. Then again a couple of weeks later on Saturday the 14th. Those r 2 deer movements I remember the most from the last 5 years.
@Highnz573 жыл бұрын
Driving on covelo road (hwy 162. A winding, 30 Mile mountain road that goes from the main highway101 to our small town) on nights around a full moon, there's gonna be dozens of deer on the road. Locals know that so they know when to drive slow and carefully on the road. And on rainy days.
@bobcannon52173 жыл бұрын
The Peter Griffin in me: Woah, woah, woah! But what about the New Car smell?
@802louis2 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@evanwoyke3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mikerhodes3563 Жыл бұрын
I regularly make mock scrapes by urinating in them -making sure that there is a licking branch or some sort of suspended vine or small limber limb-90 per cent of the time when i check a couple weeks later you can see that there has been activity
@gregchambers6100 Жыл бұрын
Factual, concise, accurate well presented. Thank you!
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
We're glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching!
@gregchambers6100 Жыл бұрын
@@Whitetail_Properties Oh It's entirely my pleasure!
@BornN2Grave12 жыл бұрын
On heavily pressured public land in SE PA, I use my own bottled urine in every mock scrape I make. And have the trail cam videos and photos to prove it attracts bucks of all ages. I even pour it on the licking branch and they lick and eat the leaves. Some bucks show up within hours of when I made the scrape. Letting your urine sit in an open bottle for a week turns it darker and makes it smell musky like buck urine. I'm convinced they smell testosterone and have no idea its human.
@MrWhiltetail2 жыл бұрын
I have found up in Michigan a new moon or even a lot of heavy cloud cover at night for extended periods tends to intensify rutting activity but the rut happens just about to the day every year regardless. This seems to be the case in Iowa too.... Also, I used to pee in scrapes & mock scrapes as well as out of my tree stand back in the early 80's & found that deer are often attracted to it & will open up scrapes around the scrape you peed in or ignore it when just peeing in your spot, but there were also times when they would freak out & disappear from the area or snort. I think it can vary on a persons personal body chemistry at the time, but most of the time it wasn't an issue so I will pee in my spot if I have to go.
@joshuawaltz9484 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mikemacinnes61202 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his shit! Can watch for hours. Not cocky just giving you facts Thanks
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Kip is great, we agree! 😁 Thanks for watching!
@ronstecker18353 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information
@ronstecker18353 жыл бұрын
T.Y.its a learning process i enjoyed it!
@ronstecker18353 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@frankcastle52942 жыл бұрын
Great vid Sir and this is my silver anniversary of hunting here in southern PA. By God...I'll be pissing a lot more out of my stand now and ditching my pee bottle. Thanks much.
@anthonymusso52822 жыл бұрын
Ive got to watch this video a few times bc some of these things this man talks about to do/not do are ingrained in me! Lol
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
As with many others! We're just trying to explain the research that the scientific community has compiled over the past few decades - in hopes to help educate hunters!
@sirtango12 жыл бұрын
I’ve peed in an active scrape and covered it with leaves. Next morning the scrape was opened back up. 3 days in a row, same reaction. Then I covered the scrape without peeing in it with the same results. Someone spotlighted a nice 8 pointer and the scrapes were never opened again.
@andrewbrown65222 жыл бұрын
Im like a dog marking territory as i walk around. 😆
@Rcol44272 жыл бұрын
Can’t argue with good data!
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@lambertsaldi15502 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍🦌 spot on fellow Hunter
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
😎😎
@beachralph3 жыл бұрын
Right on to clear up a lot off the myth on the moon phase that been a famous one the pea one heard off that one. But is it that a mock scrap when they human pea on it can deer attract to this. And kip keep up the great work
@cwickyomomma21243 жыл бұрын
Go back to school, non spelling ass!
@JayN4GO3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir you nailed it all. I actually see more daytime movement throughout a full moon than not. And I always wiz in that scrape :)
@boomerrangerron2 жыл бұрын
I too agree with your conclusion about peeing in the woods! The only exception I think I'd add is not if you had Asparagus for dinner the night before!
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
LOL! Now thats funny!
@boomerrangerron2 жыл бұрын
@@Whitetail_Properties Thanks, yes I always try to add humor to my comments and to my channel whenever possible!
@douglascasey34863 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you about barometric pressure. It just doesn't affects dear, but I've noticed it affects other animals as well, including dogs.
@notsoaveragejoeoutdoors94753 жыл бұрын
It definitely affects turkeys big time
@lloydjones4063 жыл бұрын
If you are a bird hunter, watch the chickens. If you are a deer hunter, watch the cows. But my advice, hunt whenever you can, and whenever you want to.
@taslishimhoekwai2986 Жыл бұрын
What about daylight hours? Do you have any data on habit changes based on reduced sunlight? Kinda like when chickens lay fewer eggs when the days get shorter.
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
The shorter days trigger the increase in testosterone in bucks, so they loose their velvet and summer coats and start "bulking up" for the fall. Testosterone continues to rise throughout October and November and remains high until the bucks loose their antlers.
@glenmarlow85952 жыл бұрын
I was hunting in pike County Illinois last week Had to pee stood up and let it fly out of my stand A pretty decent 8 pointer walked under my stand not more than 10 minutes later and never responded at all. I have actually been peeing in the deer woods for years and have never had a bad reaction to it
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
You were right here where the corporate office is! Good luck the rest of the season!
@houliemon1315 Жыл бұрын
I've always love hunting in the rain ! I've seen some of the biggest bucks of the season in MONSOON rains ! Misty rain is the time for still hunting ! And another thing is PEE is PEE to deer ! It's doesn't bother them ! Sort of like a tree stand next to a road . The sounds of car's and trucks bothers you more then them ! I had a tree stand that every year I ether killed an buck from or missed one from ! The traffic sounded like it was going right under me it was so close to the road !
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Rain events are great times to hunt! And we agree with the road noise thing, bothers us more than them for sure!
@chiya20062 жыл бұрын
I have a personal experience with peeing in the hunt area. 2 seasons ago, I had the urge to pee badly, so I did it right under the tree where the stand was, before morning light. Around 8:30 am, two fawns came by and one of them spent almost 5 minutes at the pee location. She was just sniffing it. Either she was not experienced cuz she was only like 1 year old, or the smell got her curious to stick around. Again she was only a fawn.
@bradleyklein36842 жыл бұрын
We had a full moon on our opening weekend .it was the first time noone on the property shot a deer on opening weekend.
@fatgeisha46852 жыл бұрын
one thing is definite, we don't have enough research on a lot of things with deer. I'm still skeptical of piss and the moon, many animals follow lunar cycles for movement and some even almost ceremonial like elephants which were thought to have no pattern with the moon. Scent hands down you can never argue, it's a primary function for differentiating what comes and goes through their territory. Pissing on scrapes however, is genius. Doesn't mean you can't use your scent WISELY!
@skeetersaurus62493 жыл бұрын
One major thing overlooked by 'scientific studies' that you've got to actually hunt A LOT of different sites (as in states, regions, etc) to understand...is that deer are a 'close territory animal'...most herds will stay on a 200 (or less) acre piece of land their whole life...so what is 'normal' for what you hunt may be insane for another area. I grew up being told 'deer see movement', 'deer smell your urine', 'deer forage at full-moon night', 'deer don't look up unless they have experience being shot at from heights', etc. In reality, this is NOT ALWAYS TRUE! I found this out when I bought a remote land tract in 2000, scouted it heavily for the pre-season, lot of sign, no visuals (no good game cams back then, either), several scrapes, tons of rubs...figured 'not sure when they are here, but I'll make opening weekend out of figuring it out'...set up my stand the week before and left it...come in on opening morning pre-dawn, get set up...and was amazed at all the contradictions I observed that weekend. The day before was full moon, but they didn't start moving until 8am, zero wind made them nervous and antsy...first buck in looked directly at me (20-ft up a tree) and without flinching, ran off immediately...two does followed him, and did the same (tree-staring deer? interesting). This went on all weekend. I asked several who lived in the area what gives with the deer here, and they simply replied 'it's harder to hunt our deer than other places'...no other explanation given...made no sense, but convinced me that 'expert advice' for Ohio doesn't mean a THING in Missouri...and trying to 'follow expert advice' will lead you into eternal circles of confusion...not into a good deer steak!
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
We agree completely that different regions, states, counties and even individual farms can all hunt differently for a multitude of reasons- theres no question there. But, a lot of these studies Kip is referring to are conducted in different regions and states and then all the data is compiled. It doesn't me its the gospel, it is simply stating the scientific aspects of deer movement patterns that have been collected. Again, they are still wild animals and can act differently based on region, habitat, pressure and dozens of other factors - which we are fully aware of. Best of luck this fall!!
@usa-rb5fi3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I’ve heard the full moon before and from my own experience have never done any good in rainy weather, even with poncho on and all, now weather changes, I.e. going to rain or snow the next day, I’ve noticed deer out a lot of times the evening prior in increased numbers. Also windy conditions have at times been favorable for me, because I also try to find a low area where the wind isn’t hitting as much and it has paid off at times.
@bgdesignandsolutions3 жыл бұрын
I've shot a few deer on rainy days. Not down pours mind ya, but drizzle and rainy. They don't hear as well because of the rain, which makes it a great day for stalking. I've walked up and shot them as close as 20 yards with a bow on rainy days.
@saltcreekammo3 жыл бұрын
I was told the moon thing and also that deer will be out to feed the couple days before a big rain or snow storm to stock up so they don’t have to be out...
@nixonfleming65753 жыл бұрын
True when there a cold front coming in rain or snow they be on move come out early in am eat or min or late afternoon to eat before it cold they go lay down in pines wood or heavy brush area near field.i seen a lot deer on snowy days in mid afternoon toward 2to 5 when start get little dark coming out eat .
@markj3632 жыл бұрын
Just and FYI, Crest White Strips work great.
@Loukas812 жыл бұрын
I love how you use science from university studies as the source for your claims. Well done, sir. Well done!
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻 thanks for watching!!
@josephbragg50203 жыл бұрын
Seen a friend take a krap on a lane one time ,he walked 150 yds to get away from it and after he did the deer came thru and sniffed it but he was too far away for a shotgun and slug to get a shot.
@JohnSmith-iv8gr Жыл бұрын
whever i wizz in front of my trailcams i always get more pictures of wildlife. lol
@danielhosier86963 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your video and research it has helped many. After 40+ years of hunting I have had some of my best bucks taken in a nice light rain. I smoke a pipe and do not hesitate in the stand, many will argue with me but i have burnt my pipe and had very nice bucks come in and hang out to check it out cigarettes may be very different. As for the moon I have personally journaled the 4 phases of the moon, to the sides and overhead or below feet. When moon rise or go to feet they travel to feeding area and when it goes down they travel to secure areas to frolick or bed. 2 to 3 hours into a phase is peak activity. I have taken plenty of deer in areas that I peed yet i have watched several real quality bucks skirt around that same area so when horn hunting I take that extra precaution. This is just my lifetime observations and not to be taken otherwise. Regardless of weather, moon or how bad I gotta poop when I can hunt i do my best to stay all day as I learn something new every time. God Bless
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
40 years is more experience than most, and we appreciate that! Your journaling is very cool, and something more hunters should do! We agree, you learn something new every time you step foot in the woods. We think time spend hunting is by far the best teacher for any hunter! God Bless and good luck the rest of the season!
@ricks74322 жыл бұрын
All hunting areas / dates are not the same. The moon might not make as much of a difference when the woods is quiet or low hunting pressure. Put on a weekend gun opener or snow on the ground in a high powered rifle state with heavy hunting pressure. I have counted over 50 shots in the area on opening day. If you have a full moon you will hear hardly any shots by the 3rd. They go nocturnal fast and hard. It's not as bad on a new moon especially if there is not any snow. Then again most people would not see as many deer so there would be less shooting.
@karvtek3 жыл бұрын
Deer seem to move earlier on rainy afternoons. Maybe because it’s darker or because a cold front is moving in.
@usa-rb5fi3 жыл бұрын
Where I’m at in this types of conditions seems like I see more deer.
@johnbalogna8033 жыл бұрын
Now how about addressing the rut as it pertains to moon phases ??
@Dustinwhy82 жыл бұрын
Got it…that’s why at 4:30am on this full moon cycle I saw 7 deer feeding in the field 🙄. Never see the “eyes” walking to my stand during new moon phases.
@mikeleo71893 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who will pee in a deer scrape in a heartbeat, says i'm gonna blow his mind.
@MrAtaripitbull2 жыл бұрын
In 2020, I pee'd about 30 yards from my stand and in 2 hours i had 2 bucks and a Doe smelling my urine ! Bad move cause the trio became a duo with my bow.
@lovemypug50772 жыл бұрын
Being able to pee in the woods and not spook deer is a big “relief”
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
We see what you did there, LOL!!
@patrapper73673 жыл бұрын
Wish the provide links to support some statements or Penn State studies. Would love to read them.
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
The studies are posted on penn states website. We apologize we should have linked them.
@aw40883 жыл бұрын
Great
@johningersoll39313 жыл бұрын
Jeff from Whitetail Habitat Solutions also did a few videos on peeing in the woods. He made a mock scrape and peed on it, and monitored it. It attracted plenty of deer. The whole idea is that, with some very minor difference, urine is urine. A deer doesn't know whether it is deer urine, dog urine, human urine, etc. Most urine has a similar smell, especially after it has been on the ground for a few minutes, and any differences in smell that could possibly be based on dietary differences have dissipated. Watch the video titled; #1 Deer Hunting Myth Destroyed
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
That is correct! We have seen the video and Jeff was spot on! He has some great content over there too!!
@johningersoll39313 жыл бұрын
@@Whitetail_Properties Y'all and Jeff both create great content. There are a lot of naysayers out there regarding topics like this, so having multiple reputable sources that have actually studied it and providing the results might help to break some of the bad habits out there. A lot of people worry way too much over things that wont matter. There is a lot of overthinking in the hunting world right now. I am glad that y'all are getting some of these myths out of the way. Keep up the good work.
@Whitetail_Properties3 жыл бұрын
@@johningersoll3931 Agreed! We appreciate the positive feedback and will continue trying to help inform and educate!!
@kenseymour51523 жыл бұрын
You just blew my myth about the rain I always thought they was laying down in the rain
@lovetogolf41843 жыл бұрын
They move more..your scent is limited
@tscherry703 жыл бұрын
Best time to hunt is in the rain imo, smoked a nice doe while it was pouring on my head this year.
@smokedbrisket3033 Жыл бұрын
On peeing in the woods, wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself. I was bear hunting in the Nez Perce Clearwater a couple weeks ago. Staying out all day, I'd need to relieve myself periodically. I picked a spot about 150 or 200 yards from my ground blind to pee. Just a random spot. Came back the next morning to see that it had been scraped to pieces. So I peed there some more that morning and early afternoon, only to hear a deer snorting and scraping my "urinal," and heard this every morning around 9 and every afternoon around 4:15 or 4:30 This pattern repeated the entire week. If it had been a one-off, I'd be "meh." But it happened every day, and the scrape got wider and deeper each day.
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool to have that observed evidence!
@raequanmosley8258 Жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that I have been wasting money on lures all these years? All I needed to do was just use my own piss in the dispensers? 🤣
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Kinda..
@Chris-yo4ks3 жыл бұрын
I ALWAYS make my own scrape by clearing some vegetation, the pee in the bare ground......does and bucks always visit it. I even pee out of my deer stand....and the deer just don't mind. Of course, I spend time in the woods year round......so they always have human smell around.
@TheDeanosaurus2 жыл бұрын
4:48... ok but how many deer went for the Chevy?
@MrMalicious52 жыл бұрын
I’ve gotten off my stand, made a hole, pissed in it and had deer walk right by it none the wiser.
@jimelmore97282 жыл бұрын
A different scent in the hunting woods sometimes work out for you. I had the smoke from a Thermocell’s attract deer. Watched them lip curl walking into the smoke and walk straight to me. Now if it’s a shooter deer that’s good. If it’s not a shooter, it’ll ruin your hunt. Because that non shooter will alarm the world of your presence..
@TruthAboutHeaven2 жыл бұрын
When deer smell a NEW scent in their living space, they want to learn everything they can about WHY that new scent is there in that space. They also want to learn if it is being omitted by a dangerous source or a non-dangerous source. If they can determine that the new scent is mixed with human scent, they be GONE! Or - if it's coming from a liberal Democrat, they'll relocate to another county or another STATE if need be.
@verticalsorh71242 жыл бұрын
The Moon phases really only affect nocturnal animals as the closer to the full moon it is. It gets much much easier for animals to see in the dark. So the full moon is naturally going to make some animals more active and aware.
@zoeyshoots2 жыл бұрын
Especially predators.. easy pickins
@jeffriggs2838 Жыл бұрын
Full moon days I have seen the deer bed down in the morning and move midday more
@danletter93572 жыл бұрын
I was waiting on the peeing one. I’m a pisser. I’ve peed then watched both buck and doe walk right up to it, and then pee on the same spot themselves.
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
We have had multiple people observe the same thing!
@aliendroneservices66212 жыл бұрын
@@Whitetail_Properties I believe there's a journal article corroborating this, by lead author I.P. Freely.
@snooper71 Жыл бұрын
Purely anecdotal.... We have 3000 acres of farms lands and when harvest season comes, we can't be spending our time always going to the bathroom so we pee all over the fields when need be. We have plenty of whitetails still roaming around. Based on personal observation in my area, urine doesn't affect anything other than curiosity.Maybe they are just trying to figure out who was working that day! 🤷♂😂
@Whitetail_Properties Жыл бұрын
Lol! You are correct, it doesn't bother them at all, and if anything makes them more curious. Research has proven that.
@cjcourter14773 жыл бұрын
Except the moon does effect deer movement. Not so much if they move but when they move.
@wilmafingerdoo26903 жыл бұрын
I pee in the woods all the time! Whoever later sits in whatever shooting house I was in doesn't appreciate it though....🤣🤣
@robertahlholm64123 жыл бұрын
just hunted morning after a full moon and saw zip
@monsterhog11183 жыл бұрын
If I can smell the difference between deer, dog or human pee then I know a deer can. You said that study was done on rutting bucks I've seen bucks do some crazy stuff during the rut lol
@zzz7zzz93 жыл бұрын
Our urine gives off ammonia, hardly 'human'-smelling. And, it evaporates, especially with weather. It in no way spooks deer.
@Customi2072 жыл бұрын
Does the rain-movement-thing apply to snowfall?
@Whitetail_Properties2 жыл бұрын
Yes precipitation in general!
@ludlowfalls88563 жыл бұрын
Great video...I shot my first deer in the rain!
@leighstruble80643 жыл бұрын
Phew! I piss like a race horse and make light sabre noises while I spray it below my deer stand. I'm glad to know it's not hurting the hunt.
@taduncan6614 Жыл бұрын
After years of hunting I use the "you won't know until you go" rule.